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Favoriting July 14, 2011: "Copyright Alert System" w/ Casey Rae-Hunter (Future of Music Coalition) & Sherwin Siy (Public Knowledge)

At 10am, Casey Rae-Hunter (Future of Music Coalition) and Sherwin Siy (Public Knowledge) join to discuss how the Internet Service Providers + Entertainment Industry agreement to create a Center of Copyright Information and Copyright Alert System impacts musicians, and everyone who uses the Internet

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Artist Track Album Label Comments New Approx. start time
Sneakers            0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Dirashe Tribe  Dirashe Syncopated Panpipes   Favoriting Staring Into the Sun  Sublime Frequencies  film by Olivia Wyatt  *   0:02:01 (Pop-up)
  Bagana   Ethiopian Urban and Tribal Music vol. 2 Gold From Wax  Rounder      0:10:44 (Pop-up)
  chant avec tambours et hochets   Ethiopie: Musiques Vocales et Instrumentales  Ocora      0:12:45 (Pop-up)
Messa Au Monastère  J'Ai Vu L'Eau Vive   Favoriting Senegal: Messe Et Chants Au Monastère De Keur Moussa  Arion      0:17:44 (Pop-up)
Kumi, Verata, Tailevu, Viti Levu  Male Fan Dance / Club Dance Meke Iwau   Favoriting South Pacific: Island Music  Nonesuch Explorer      0:19:52 (Pop-up)
  Waudang. Do'da, Manam           0:24:29 (Pop-up)
Musicians Of Nechmaya  Tahwissa Suivi Du Hwa Oued Zenati (Ballade Suivie De L'Air De La Rivière Zenati)   Favoriting Flûtes-Gasba Du Nord-Est De L'Algérie. Airs Pour Gasba Et Bendir  Musique Du Monde      0:29:08 (Pop-up)
Karna Ram Bhil  Flute Nar Et Chant   Favoriting Flutes Du Rajasthan (Flutes Of Rajasthan)  Le Chant du Monde      0:34:38 (Pop-up)
  Bale Ageru   Sleeping in the Market: Ethiopian Music & Sounds from Amhara        0:50:11 (Pop-up)
 
Cooper-Moore  Banjo Arba Minch Gorden   Favoriting A Retrospective 1990-2010 (set 1)  no label  Free Music Archive    0:49:31 (Pop-up)
Lucky Dragons  Givers   Favoriting Dream Island Laughing Language  Marriage Records  Free Music Archive    0:53:03 (Pop-up)
White Life  Stop This From The Start   Favoriting White Life  Ehse Records  Free Music Archive  *   0:56:53 (Pop-up)
 
Casey Rae-Hunter (Future of Music Coalition) & Sherwin Siy (Public Knowledge)  talkin' Copyright Alert System & Center of Copyright Information   Favoriting    
[10 AM] On July 7th, America's major Internet Service Providers, music, and film industries announced an agreement to cooperate on anti-piracy measures. They will establish an Orwellian "Center for Copyright Information" to monitor Peer-to-Peer networks, and to send out Copyright Alerts. The six alert levels start out as educational warnings, but may escalate to "mitigation measures" including the disruption of Internet access.

Casey Rae-Hunter is Deputy Director at the Future of Music Coalition, a nonprofit working to ensure a diverse musical culture where artists flourish, are compensated fairly for their work, and where fans can find the music they want. Casey issued this statement on behalf of the FMC.

Sherwin Siy is Deputy Legal Director and Kahle/Austin Promise Fellow at Public Knowledge, a public interest group working to defend your rights in the emerging digital culture. Public Knowledge issued a joint statement with the Center for Democracy and Technology on the Copyright Alert System, and Sherwin posted his thoughts here
 
  1:04:19 (Pop-up)
 
Lüger  Dracula's Chauffeur Wants More   Favoriting Concrete Light  Giradiscos  Free Music Archive  *   1:28:12 (Pop-up)
Assassins 88  Scanners   Favoriting Kaneda  Dream Damage  also available on New Weird Australia's Sound of Young Canberra"> comp  *   1:34:49 (Pop-up)
Metalmorphosis  Ballada Bezbożna   Favoriting Biopsja Duszy    Free music Archive    1:39:56 (Pop-up)
Nheap  Panthalassa   Favoriting Skymotion  Acustronica  Free Music Archive    1:44:29 (Pop-up)
 
Wipers  Romeo   Favoriting Box Set        1:54:21 (Pop-up)
Obits  Shift Operator   Favoriting Moody, Standard and Poor        1:58:21 (Pop-up)
Lorelle Meets The Obsolete  This Plain City   Favoriting On Welfare  Captcha  first heard of this band from a Free Music Archive comp by Estandar, music from Guadalajara  *   2:02:11 (Pop-up)
Chrome  Animal   Favoriting Red Exposure  Lemon  orig 1980, reissued!  *   2:06:21 (Pop-up)
Opéra Mort  Fameck   Favoriting Le Tour de L'Oubli  Tanzprocesz  feat. John 'slicing' laux  *   2:11:44 (Pop-up)
Five Star Moet  In Full Affect   Favoriting B Girls Live & Kicking  B-Boy Records / Traffic Entertainment Group  1987 reissued!  *   2:16:40 (Pop-up)
Onra  What Up Duyet?   Favoriting Chinoiseries        2:16:58 (Pop-up)
Prisoners Go Go Band  Air Raid Shelter   Favoriting Live! At the Butchery with Special Guests On Fire  S.S. Records    *   2:20:08 (Pop-up)
Orchestre Poly-Rythmo de Cotonou  Your Kiss Stole Me Away   Favoriting 1st Album 1973  Analog Africa    *   2:28:51 (Pop-up)
David Kilgour & the Heavy Eights  A Break in the Weather   Favoriting Left By Soft  Merge    *   2:34:18 (Pop-up)
Twerps  Self-Assured   Favoriting Black Eyes 7"  Underwater Peoples    *   2:37:21 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Pujol 

 

 

 

 

 

2:40:05 (Pop-up)
The Sods  Tin Can People   Favoriting         2:52:35 (Pop-up)
Apache Dropout  Shot Down   Favoriting Shot Down 7"  Troule In Mind      2:54:09 (Pop-up)
The Paperhead  Haze   Favoriting focus in on the looking glass  TIM  reissued debut cassette --> vinyl, coming to Talk's Cheap in 2 weeks!  *   2:56:57 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  9:05am
Dead Corporate Eyes:

wha? things look weird!
  9:06am
Parq:

Thanks for the alert, Jason. Too many people in my peer group just don't get the importance of this issue.
  9:14am
jason:

Welcome! Parq glad you're on the alert. DCE, is purple weird?
  9:17am
Dead Corporate Eyes:

like the weirdest! good morning!
  9:17am
BSI:

Q: Is purple weird?
A: God, I hope so...
  9:19am
hamburger / london:

Barney v Grimace
  9:21am
pierre:

Bonjour Jason,
glad to check in on this "j'ai vu l'eau vive" track :)

happy Bastille day everyone !
  9:21am
maestroso:

Wow. Messa Au Monastère. Awesome.
  9:24am
pierre:

hey Mr Sigal, is the "Copyright Alert System" like HADOPI law we have in france?
  9:25am
Parq:

Pierre, happy anniversary of the day your ancestors started cutting off rich people's heads.
  9:29am
Dead Corporate Eyes:

Parq, we need some of that action here! Violence is never the answer...sometimes.
  9:29am
pierre:

well not just rich people, more people from Aristocracy, but yeah thanks :)
(and my personal ancestors come also from egypt so i kind of like pharaohs as well)
  9:34am
BSI:

Hey, a little death never hurt anyone.
  9:38am
pierre:

i tried to search the lyrics of that song > difficult.
  9:40am
Elvis Costello:

I've waited all my life for just a little death...
  9:54am
Robert:

Gorgeous instrumental that.
  9:55am
Cecile:

Can those industries do that? Can't that be brought into court or something?
  9:55am
john:

wowsers...
  10:01am
BodegaMan:

great show so far!
  10:07am
Parq:

'Cile, for decades now, both Democrats and Repubs have made it a priority to fill the state and federal benches with openly pro-business (i.e., pro -plutocracy) judges, so it's very unlikely that a court would overturn this, even if it were a matter of law, and it's probably not.
  10:10am
Cecile:

I'm not anti-business, some laws are useful, but lack of freedom for consumers is bad for business in the long run.
  10:14am
Dave B:

True - freedom is one thing, but theft is different.
  10:15am
Dave B:

curious if this "blacklist" will be made public? If so, I'll just avoid it....
  10:15am
Cecile:

Exactly. I want the artists paid. I don't want to fund some exec's kid's private school - unless he or she is really doing their job.
  10:16am
Cecile:

King Sun, the rapper, was burned by piracy. He said more bootlegs sold of his music than legit releases.
  10:23am
Cecile:

Many, many things are also Internet-only. Or you get a price break or other incentive for using the 'net.
  10:24am
Dave B:

If the industry was smart... YEARS ago they could have owned P2P, using it as a method to "release" low quality teaser/tasters

Instead, they are reactionary and now trying to catch up to lots of missed opportunities.

How does this all fly in the face of the U.N. declaring intrernet access as a human right?
  10:33am
Cecile:

it seems like corporations regularly chase off the idealistic and entrepreneurial employees who would think of things like that. they don't fit the mold.
  10:37am
pierre:

agreed Cecile, i'm not angry about this behaviour, just tired…
  10:39am
Dave B:

It's all about "monetization"

I work at one of those corps, that's all I ever hear about.

Personally, I prefer the phrase "kicking water uphill"

that's more what its like.
  10:39am
Cecile:

I love it, Dave. I'm going to use that phrase.
  10:40am
Cecile:

My phrase is "swimming through wet cement."
  10:42am
Dave B:

thats a good one too Cecile!

Hey Pierre - hows the garden!
  10:42am
Handsome Harry:

Love it. Great tune.
  10:45am
Parq:

I'm angry aobut it, actually. I've known a few people in the mainstream music biz, and for years I've been listenting as they smugly explained that the entire body of thought of which FMU is an avatar simply doesn't exist. The fact that they could make more money if they saw the light is their problem.
  10:46am
pierre:

the garden (on my balcony, let us be clear) is looking nicer than ever, thanks !
(now i've got basil, rosemary, two lemon tree, one mango tree, three Cyperus alternifolius, a mentha, one coriander)
  10:48am
pierre:

@ Parq : how come somebody say that the idea behind wfmu doesn't exist, as wfmu is the best proof that this idea exist ?
  10:56am
Cecile:

Yay! Wipers.
  10:56am
Parq:

Pierre, I can't even begin to tell you how myopic these guys are, and how hidebound by conventional wisdom. Dave B, am I right or what?
  10:57am
eyenoise:

ROMEO . So classic.
  10:59am
Dave B:

Parq, you are right. The old regieme/old guard/old way of doing things is just that.

old.

(problem is, so am I!)
  11:00am
Cecile:

it's hard because I have great ideas at 50, and no get up and go...
  11:04am
Cecile:

One happy thing is that I own original pressings of all the Wipers records in the box set. Nobody liked the Wipers where I was at, so I was able to get them cheap used. I think I paid $10 for the three of them.
  11:06am
Carmichael:

Good morning Jason and musical Argonauts.
  11:08am
Cecile:

Carm, I thought Carmageddon was about you! LOL!
  11:09am
Dave B:

@Carmichael - with a passing glance I thought that said Arrogants...
  11:12am
BSI:

the Chrome is brilliant as freak.
  11:13am
Carmichael:

Carmegeddon?? Is that a reality show?
  11:17am
Cecile:

No, it's one of the highways being closed for the weekend in LA.
  11:19am
#K:

YES I LOVE ONRA
  11:23am
Carmichael:

Wow Cecile, you're up on your CA highways! I never heard of it. But I did finally get some news on your State government shutdown. Bummer. We passed a law here last year that politicians don't get paid if a budget isn't passed on time. Miracle: budget was passed 10 days before the deadline.
  11:26am
Cecile:

I kind of hate it. I think the people who will get the gov back on track will be the liquor distributors and bars - no licensing is taking place!
  11:26am
Dave B:

besides today being Bastille Day it is also

Pandemonium Day - http://holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/July/pandemoniumday.htm

National Nude Day
http://holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/July/nationalnudeday.htm

Take your pick
  11:27am
Cecile:

national nude pandemonium day?
  11:30am
J J:

Is it also camel toe day? I ask because it seems a lot of people are celebrating this week.
  11:31am
Cecile:

JJ every day is C T day. I think Ministry wrote a song about it.
  11:31am
Dave B:

better camel toe, than moose knuckle
  11:31am
san culottes:

Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité, Nudité.
  11:36am
Parq:

Cecile, National French Nude Pandemonium Day.
  11:37am
Parq:

"French Nude Pandemonium" would be a good name for an album.
  11:37am
still b/p:

National Nude Pandemonium Day could become Randymonium Day.
There's a traditional Nude Hiking Day on summer solstice, and favorite image -- from the heroine's account; not personally witnessed, unfortunately -- was from an AMC hut crew member. She hiked to another hut for a prank theft, as they often do, and returned hiking nude with just her...booty: a 6 ft. plush snake.
  11:39am
Parq:

Nude hiking? Big deal. Show me nude bushwacking, and then I'll be impressed.
  11:40am
Cecile:

nude biking just sounds painful to me.
  11:42am
jeff:

life is hard enough with clothes on
  11:43am
J J:

Those bike seats must get awfully slippery.
  11:43am
Dave B:

a nude body is a peaceful body

no place to hide any weapons
  11:44am
J-Mar:

Nashville in tha house!
  11:45am
Parq:

JJ, on the other hand, I''ll bet female nude bikers have a really nice time. Okay, I'm going to hell for that.
  11:46am
Dave B:

From my hometown folk hero/eccentric - Public Nudity For Peace

http://web.me.com/davidbradynyc/The_Eddie_Collins_Files/The_Manifesto_Page_1.html
  11:46am
still b/p:

Joe Gould: "In the winter, I'm a Buddhist; in the summer, I'm a nudist!"

"nude bushwacking" has dual meanings that would be demonstrated in the practice itself as the subject and environment interact.
  11:48am
Cecile:

You would think, Parq. But probably not.
  11:52am
pierre:

i like nudity, wfmudity
  11:54am
J J:

hoola hoops and pogo sticks. those could be fun/funny group nude activities.
  11:59am
Carmichael:

Naked break-dancing.
  11:59am
ru:

you would think that...with little to no understanding of femail anatomy
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