WFMU: Shrunken Planet with Jeffrey Davison: Playlist from December 9, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:03am Number Six: Good Morning, Jeffrey & All!
	6:03am spamoni: Good morning Jeffrey and planeteers
	♥ 6:06am anerandros: Good Morning everyone :)
	6:08am Cooh John: Joining the morning mantra, JD and planeteers.
	♥ 6:13am Jeffrey Davison: Good morning earlybirds Number Six, spamoni, anerandros, Cooh John. This long Pierre Jean Croset piece was recorded in 1979. Listed as a "live" recording, I take that to mean that while it was not recorded before an audience, it's done with no overdubs etc.
	♥ 6:15am annie: good morning all!!
	♥ 6:17am annie: 8-10 inches of snow yesterday. early morning start, ended about 12 hours later.. it's white out there!
	♥ 6:22am Sem: Hello, and good morning, Jeffrey. Greets, all.
	♥ 6:27am Jeffrey Davison: annie and Sem, welcome. Snow headed this way today also. Not supposed to be a lot, maybe a few inches...
	♥ 6:32am duke: Good morning. Where's the snow?
	♥ 6:33am annie: we got snow south of the mason dixon, more or less. even tex-ass got some.. down in louisiana, too..
	6:36am Papayo: gut morning people. hello
	♥ 6:37am Sem: @duke:here's the culprit, www.intellicast.com...
	♥ 6:41am duke: It hasn't reached us yet. Looks like Columbia county is on the edge of the snow band. That makes Mrs. Duke happy. She didn't want 't want snow overnight.
	♥ 6:41am Jeffrey Davison: Welcome to Storm Tracker Central, duke and Papayo... updates as they come in. If the snow starts coming down, I'll broadcast from the parking lot.
	♥ 6:43am annie: there was a huge decorative snowflake that appeared in our city square: it is ten feet tall... and anatomically deformed: it has 5 points..
	♥ 6:46am jkeigh: Man, what a great first (almost) hour so far. Hi Folks
	♥ 6:46am Jeffrey Davison: Yeah, we need to teach more better science and math. And even like more reading and stuff.
	♥ 6:48am Jeffrey Davison: jkeigh...hello in there
	♥ 6:50am annie: i saw a very bad use of the word which means styles of art and uses of materials: "medias"... our children has got to learn!! i guess i love language so much, things like that make me bristle. is "medias" really ok to use?
	♥ 6:52am duke: Isn't media already plural? Medium is singular. We needs better learnin.
	♥ 6:53am jkeigh: Annie, there's a website called The Teaching Company and on it there's a lecture series from a professor out of the University of Michigan that is called "The Secret Life of Words" that explores that topic
	♥ 6:53am jkeigh: www.thegreatcourses.com...
	6:54am Number Six: What do you need boring stuff like math, science or reading for when you can be a Kardashian?
	♥ 6:54am Mr. Pumpy: Good morning, all. Couldn't get out of bed...
	♥ 6:56am annie: i would even have bristled less had the writer used mediums.. but sheesh.. this is what teaching to the standardized tests does. "all children left behind" seems to be a goal with our ecicators..
	♥ 6:57am annie: ...and many of my young 30-something friends seem to think this deviation from the norm to be fine; they call it un-schooling.. a dangerous trend.
	6:58am Number Six: @annie: As long as they get participation awards!
	♥ 7:01am annie: ecicaors!! haha... i typed bad..
	♥ 7:05am jkeigh: :-) at first I thought you meant Dictators not Educators
	♥ 7:06am annie: hehe, perhaps it was a freudian slip, it seems that it could fit..
	♥ 7:08am jkeigh: Too true
	♥ 7:08am Jeffrey Davison: Mr. Pumpy, welcome to the English Language Corrections Department. We are all guilty...save us! I did correct one whippersnapper this week on his use of "vinyls". Score one for the good guys.
	♥ 7:10am Mr. Pumpy: Yes, Jeffrey...I see class is in session!
	♥ 7:14am Jeffrey Davison: All listeners today will get participation medals...all first place. Listeners to this show on the archive will get cyber medals. Operators are standing by. Call in the next 10 minutes for free guacamole.
	♥ 7:16am annie: thatch's show yesterday was pretty damn good, it was the first i'd listened to.he promised bitcoin donations.. i wonder if he was just spinning a yarn..
	♥ 7:19am Jeffrey Davison: I have a stack of bitcoins for all of you. Anyway, a stack of something.
	♥ 7:20am anerandros: Jeffrey, I wouln't mind a bitcoin donation :)
	♥ 7:21am jkeigh: They're going to be arcade tokens from an arcade that's been closed for 10 years, aren't they?
	♥ 7:22am Sem: I've observed inappropriate homonyms cropping up in print: reign, rein, rain; loan, loan; to, to, two: the SpellCheck-dependent writers of the day adding to the degradation of the language. Samuel Johnson, where are you now that we really knead you?
	♥ 7:22am duke: Bitcoin is going to crash. Save yourselves by sending all of your bitcoins to me I will dispose of them properly.
	♥ 7:24am jkeigh: Me too, on vinyls ;-)
	♥ 7:24am jkeigh: Just kidding Jeffrey
	7:26am Aner Andros: Duke, they are eventually going to crash. Along with all blockchains but one (hyperldger) in favour of next gen altcoins.
	7:26am Number Six: Samuel Johnson is too busy making a new "Snakes on a Plane" sequal.
	♥ 7:26am Jeffrey Davison: Sem: yes, I've seen this a lot. Regarding Samuel Johnson, a lass, no wear too bee founded.
	♥ 7:27am annie: and the texting fingers have pretty much chosen to avoid that pesky thing called punctuation...i miss properly hyphenated words and the like..
	♥ 7:28am Jeffrey Davison: Welcome Aner Andros. All the bitcoins, on all the data clouds, will all be under water soon enough, along with the rest of us. Carbon sequestration, anyone?
	♥ 7:31am annie: aahhh, it's snowing again!! all the children will have a white christmas here.. one of the nicest seasonal instrumentals is the soundtrack to "The Snowman".
	♥ 7:33am Sem: Lovely spins, J.D.. See you, and all, next thyme.
	7:35am Number Six: The theme from "Gremlins" is my choice for holiday music.
	7:37am Aner Andros: Jeffrey, climate change and the way humans are destroying the planet is as scary as ridiculous. But meant it another way. There are interesting things happening for what it will be the future of such technologies and the future internet and communications.
	7:39am Aner Andros: Ps: apologies for my language and punctuation mistakes. I’m not a native speaker.
	♥ 7:40am Mr. Pumpy: In other news...this sitar is really sending me places. I'm talking other planets...shrunken or otherwise.
	♥ 7:42am Jeffrey Davison: No problem, Aner Andros. You have a point. I'm hoping that the interesting changes are mostly toward the Good, and we find a way out of this morass we're in.
	♥ 7:43am annie: you will not be graded on your grammar here at the shrunken planet
	7:43am Number Six: We can pretty much kiss the internet goodbye once they kill net neutrality.
	7:49am Aner Andros: Number Six, that is what I was referring to, as well. Ever heard of Mesh and P2P?
	♥ 7:49am annie: it's a potato pancake kind of morning!
	♥ 7:50am Jeffrey Davison: Agreed, Number Six. The World Wide Web, now known as the Pop Up Ad and Info Crap Web.
	7:52am Mr. Pumpy: When using words like 'morass'...one must take extra care to steer clear of typos. You're living on the edge, Jeffrey!
	♥ 7:53am annie: it's mind-boggling to watch the hysteria over a "new world order" and then turn to your smart phone to see who's just texted you. do they not see the irony?
	♥ 7:57am duke: @Number Six The internet will look more like cable. You can get facebook for $19.95, and for 99.95 you can get FB, twitter, and 12 websites of our choosing.
	7:57am Number Six: @Aner: I have heard of them but am not overly familiar with them.
	♥ 7:59am annie: duke, that sounds pretty spot-on, actually.
	♥ 8:01am annie: this is the one place i can have a decent conversation with people... my daily world is bereft of it.
	8:06am sof: great show! really liked that Lazy Salon track
	♥ 8:08am duke: I love the term dunderheads.
	♥ 8:24am annie: oh, and dullard is a great word
	♥ 8:26am anerandros: What a wonderful song is Old Pendel <3 I'm enthralled and enticed.
	♥ 8:26am Jeffrey Davison: Mr. Pumpy: dully noted. And anyone a fan of "slopehead"?
	♥ 8:29am anerandros: Number Six: look at projects like "disaster radio", "project mesh", "dat project" and "scuttlebutt". There are good hackers working toward the goal of decentralisation in communication, social netowrks and of course the Internet. The interenet is still in its infancy. Net neutrality is hideous and detrumental but it's not the end. It may very well be a boost in a new beginning. Of course it will take very long before "the mass" could know or make the switch, but things are happening.
	♥ 8:31am anerandros: ps: it's still me. Aner Andros is from the WFMU app. I was cooking/having lunch.
	8:35am Stephen Society: Awakening from an exhausting week of work pressure, depleted, a bit shaky, with the world and US chaos adding trepidation to the exhaustion. I remembered, "Ah, 'tis Saturday...Shrunken Planet! My epiphany was this; I don't just "like" this show, it actually fulfills a spiritual need. Merci!
	♥ 8:37am duke: Unless you create a total end run around the owners of the pipes, without some form of regulation guaranteeing open access, we're trapped. It's bad enough that FB, google etc. filter what we see. We can choose not to use them. If the ISP and backbone owners can filter, we won't know what we're missing.
	♥ 8:39am anerandros: duke I agree with you on the backbone issue. It's the "only" single point of failure in all of this. I'm hopeful nonetheless. BPL could be an alternative to this but it's a far fetch.
	♥ 8:42am anerandros: Elon Musk, if you are reading this: the world needs your forsight and investments.... :D ps: BPL is en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 8:43am duke: If ISPs are no longer going to be common carriers, are they responsible for the content they carry? Do they get a free ride on that also?
	♥ 8:45am duke: BPL might open up competition which is what the whole system needs
	♥ 8:46am annie: thank you for the most excellent show jeffrey!! a perfect selection for this snowy day..
	♥ 8:47am anerandros: duke, I don't fully understand your question about ISP. Could you rephrase it please? (my language barrier limits show here).
	♥ 8:48am anerandros: I agree with annie: it has been a fantastic show! and I apologise if I've somehow hijacked the comments. I do feel it's important to let people know tho.
	♥ 8:51am Jeffrey Davison: All intelligent comments and conversations welcome...
	♥ 8:51am Jeffrey Davison: Stephen Society: thanks for joining us. Glad the show hits you in just this way. That's the intention...
	♥ 8:52am duke: One of the effects ofnet neutrality was to make ISPs common carriers. That is, they are neutral carriers. If I do something illegal on the internet, it's not the ISPs fault. Just like if someone phones in a bomb threat, it's not the phone company's fault. The FCC will revoke ISPs common carrier status, but it's unclear if they become responsible for illegal content carried on their net.
	♥ 8:53am anerandros: duke, I see. Politcians and lobbies have long attempted to make ISP responsible and "fisrt line policing tools". So it's very likely that would happen as well.
	9:00am Stephen Society: Voices from the 'old, weird world.... thanks again Jeff!

Shrunken Planet with Jeffrey Davison: Playlist from December 9, 2017

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December 9, 2017

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Ben Rath	Visit to the Other Side "Visit to the Other Side" by "Ben Rath"	Black Heart Music	Eilean	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Pierre Jean Croset	First Hour "First Hour" by "Pierre Jean Croset"	Danse Dans Le Néant Des Grands Dieux Agiles	Pierre Jean Croset	0:07:08 (Pop-up)
Jon Collin	Snuskungen "Snuskungen" by "Jon Collin"	Water and Rock Music Volume I	Early Music	0:31:59 (Pop-up)
Alexander	VIII "VIII" by "Alexander"	Alexander	Alexander	0:38:26 (Pop-up)
Satwa	Satwa "Satwa" by "Satwa"	Satwa	Time-Lag	0:44:45 (Pop-up)

Chie Mukai & Justin Simon	日　月	日　月	Mesh-Key	0:57:59 (Pop-up)
Caedmon	Storm "Storm" by "Caedmon"	Caedmon	Caedmon	1:03:27 (Pop-up)
The Sun Also Rises	Green Lane "Green Lane" by "The Sun Also Rises"	The Sun Also Rises	Scenescof	1:09:44 (Pop-up)
Synanthesia	The Tale of the Spider and the Fly	Synanthesia	RCA Victor	1:17:48 (Pop-up)
The Trees Community	Invocation "Invocation" by "The Trees Community"	The Christ Tree	Hand/Eye	1:23:40 (Pop-up)
Meic Stevens	Yorric "Yorric" by "Meic Stevens"	Outlander	Rhino Handmade	1:32:06 (Pop-up)
Bread, Love and Dreams	Butterfly Land	The Strange Tale of Captain Shannon and The Hunchback from Gigha	Sunbeam	1:40:42 (Pop-up)
Trees	Lady Margaret "Lady Margaret" by "Trees"	The Garden Of Jane Delawney	Decal	1:45:43 (Pop-up)
Lazy Salon	Autocollants "Autocollants" by "Lazy Salon"	Trisset EP	Lazy Salon	1:52:51 (Pop-up)

Si Barron	Annachie Gordon "Annachie Gordon" by "Si Barron"	12 Songs	Si Barron	2:10:58 (Pop-up)
Steve Tilston	Time Has Shown Me Your Face	An Acoustic Confusion	Scenescof	2:17:07 (Pop-up)
Tickawinda	Old Pendel "Old Pendel" by "Tickawinda"	Rosemary Lane	Kissing Spell	2:20:48 (Pop-up)
Mellow Candle	Silver Song "Silver Song" by "Mellow Candle"	Swaddling Songs	See For Miles	2:23:59 (Pop-up)
June Tabor with Martin Simpson	Le Roi Renaud	A Cut Above	Topic	2:28:13 (Pop-up)
Anne Briggs	Go Your Way "Go Your Way" by "Anne Briggs"	Anne Briggs	Water	2:34:53 (Pop-up)
Ezmay Grace	Let No Man Steal Your Thyme	(no album, live recording)	Ezmay Grace	2:38:59 (Pop-up)
Lisa Knapp	Lavender Song "Lavender Song" by "Lisa Knapp"	From Here: English Folk Field Recordings	From Here	2:41:21 (Pop-up)
Allysen Callery	First Among the Flowers	Prince's Pine	Reverb Worship	2:43:24 (Pop-up)
Bella Hardy	The Ballad of Hugh Stenson	From Here: English Folk Field Recordings	From Here	2:46:45 (Pop-up)
Judy Dyble/Andy Lewis	Tired Bones	Summer Dancing	Acid Jazz	2:51:50 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:03am Number Six: Good Morning, Jeffrey & All!
	6:03am spamoni: Good morning Jeffrey and planeteers
	♥ 6:06am anerandros: Good Morning everyone :)
	6:08am Cooh John: Joining the morning mantra, JD and planeteers.
	♥ 6:13am Jeffrey Davison: Good morning earlybirds Number Six, spamoni, anerandros, Cooh John. This long Pierre Jean Croset piece was recorded in 1979. Listed as a "live" recording, I take that to mean that while it was not recorded before an audience, it's done with no overdubs etc.
	♥ 6:15am annie: good morning all!!
	♥ 6:17am annie: 8-10 inches of snow yesterday. early morning start, ended about 12 hours later.. it's white out there!
	♥ 6:22am Sem: Hello, and good morning, Jeffrey. Greets, all.
	♥ 6:27am Jeffrey Davison: annie and Sem, welcome. Snow headed this way today also. Not supposed to be a lot, maybe a few inches...
	♥ 6:32am duke: Good morning. Where's the snow?
	♥ 6:33am annie: we got snow south of the mason dixon, more or less. even tex-ass got some.. down in louisiana, too..
	6:36am Papayo: gut morning people. hello
	♥ 6:37am Sem: @duke:here's the culprit, www.intellicast.com...
	♥ 6:41am duke: It hasn't reached us yet. Looks like Columbia county is on the edge of the snow band. That makes Mrs. Duke happy. She didn't want 't want snow overnight.
	♥ 6:41am Jeffrey Davison: Welcome to Storm Tracker Central, duke and Papayo... updates as they come in. If the snow starts coming down, I'll broadcast from the parking lot.
	♥ 6:43am annie: there was a huge decorative snowflake that appeared in our city square: it is ten feet tall... and anatomically deformed: it has 5 points..
	♥ 6:46am jkeigh: Man, what a great first (almost) hour so far. Hi Folks
	♥ 6:46am Jeffrey Davison: Yeah, we need to teach more better science and math. And even like more reading and stuff.
	♥ 6:48am Jeffrey Davison: jkeigh...hello in there
	♥ 6:50am annie: i saw a very bad use of the word which means styles of art and uses of materials: "medias"... our children has got to learn!! i guess i love language so much, things like that make me bristle. is "medias" really ok to use?
	♥ 6:52am duke: Isn't media already plural? Medium is singular. We needs better learnin.
	♥ 6:53am jkeigh: Annie, there's a website called The Teaching Company and on it there's a lecture series from a professor out of the University of Michigan that is called "The Secret Life of Words" that explores that topic
	♥ 6:53am jkeigh: www.thegreatcourses.com...
	6:54am Number Six: What do you need boring stuff like math, science or reading for when you can be a Kardashian?
	♥ 6:54am Mr. Pumpy: Good morning, all. Couldn't get out of bed...
	♥ 6:56am annie: i would even have bristled less had the writer used mediums.. but sheesh.. this is what teaching to the standardized tests does. "all children left behind" seems to be a goal with our ecicators..
	♥ 6:57am annie: ...and many of my young 30-something friends seem to think this deviation from the norm to be fine; they call it un-schooling.. a dangerous trend.
	6:58am Number Six: @annie: As long as they get participation awards!
	♥ 7:01am annie: ecicaors!! haha... i typed bad..
	♥ 7:05am jkeigh: :-) at first I thought you meant Dictators not Educators
	♥ 7:06am annie: hehe, perhaps it was a freudian slip, it seems that it could fit..
	♥ 7:08am jkeigh: Too true
	♥ 7:08am Jeffrey Davison: Mr. Pumpy, welcome to the English Language Corrections Department. We are all guilty...save us! I did correct one whippersnapper this week on his use of "vinyls". Score one for the good guys.
	♥ 7:10am Mr. Pumpy: Yes, Jeffrey...I see class is in session!
	♥ 7:14am Jeffrey Davison: All listeners today will get participation medals...all first place. Listeners to this show on the archive will get cyber medals. Operators are standing by. Call in the next 10 minutes for free guacamole.
	♥ 7:16am annie: thatch's show yesterday was pretty damn good, it was the first i'd listened to.he promised bitcoin donations.. i wonder if he was just spinning a yarn..
	♥ 7:19am Jeffrey Davison: I have a stack of bitcoins for all of you. Anyway, a stack of something.
	♥ 7:20am anerandros: Jeffrey, I wouln't mind a bitcoin donation :)
	♥ 7:21am jkeigh: They're going to be arcade tokens from an arcade that's been closed for 10 years, aren't they?
	♥ 7:22am Sem: I've observed inappropriate homonyms cropping up in print: reign, rein, rain; loan, loan; to, to, two: the SpellCheck-dependent writers of the day adding to the degradation of the language. Samuel Johnson, where are you now that we really knead you?
	♥ 7:22am duke: Bitcoin is going to crash. Save yourselves by sending all of your bitcoins to me I will dispose of them properly.
	♥ 7:24am jkeigh: Me too, on vinyls ;-)
	♥ 7:24am jkeigh: Just kidding Jeffrey
	7:26am Aner Andros: Duke, they are eventually going to crash. Along with all blockchains but one (hyperldger) in favour of next gen altcoins.
	7:26am Number Six: Samuel Johnson is too busy making a new "Snakes on a Plane" sequal.
	♥ 7:26am Jeffrey Davison: Sem: yes, I've seen this a lot. Regarding Samuel Johnson, a lass, no wear too bee founded.
	♥ 7:27am annie: and the texting fingers have pretty much chosen to avoid that pesky thing called punctuation...i miss properly hyphenated words and the like..
	♥ 7:28am Jeffrey Davison: Welcome Aner Andros. All the bitcoins, on all the data clouds, will all be under water soon enough, along with the rest of us. Carbon sequestration, anyone?
	♥ 7:31am annie: aahhh, it's snowing again!! all the children will have a white christmas here.. one of the nicest seasonal instrumentals is the soundtrack to "The Snowman".
	♥ 7:33am Sem: Lovely spins, J.D.. See you, and all, next thyme.
	7:35am Number Six: The theme from "Gremlins" is my choice for holiday music.
	7:37am Aner Andros: Jeffrey, climate change and the way humans are destroying the planet is as scary as ridiculous. But meant it another way. There are interesting things happening for what it will be the future of such technologies and the future internet and communications.
	7:39am Aner Andros: Ps: apologies for my language and punctuation mistakes. I’m not a native speaker.
	♥ 7:40am Mr. Pumpy: In other news...this sitar is really sending me places. I'm talking other planets...shrunken or otherwise.
	♥ 7:42am Jeffrey Davison: No problem, Aner Andros. You have a point. I'm hoping that the interesting changes are mostly toward the Good, and we find a way out of this morass we're in.
	♥ 7:43am annie: you will not be graded on your grammar here at the shrunken planet
	7:43am Number Six: We can pretty much kiss the internet goodbye once they kill net neutrality.
	7:49am Aner Andros: Number Six, that is what I was referring to, as well. Ever heard of Mesh and P2P?
	♥ 7:49am annie: it's a potato pancake kind of morning!
	♥ 7:50am Jeffrey Davison: Agreed, Number Six. The World Wide Web, now known as the Pop Up Ad and Info Crap Web.
	7:52am Mr. Pumpy: When using words like 'morass'...one must take extra care to steer clear of typos. You're living on the edge, Jeffrey!
	♥ 7:53am annie: it's mind-boggling to watch the hysteria over a "new world order" and then turn to your smart phone to see who's just texted you. do they not see the irony?
	♥ 7:57am duke: @Number Six The internet will look more like cable. You can get facebook for $19.95, and for 99.95 you can get FB, twitter, and 12 websites of our choosing.
	7:57am Number Six: @Aner: I have heard of them but am not overly familiar with them.
	♥ 7:59am annie: duke, that sounds pretty spot-on, actually.
	♥ 8:01am annie: this is the one place i can have a decent conversation with people... my daily world is bereft of it.
	8:06am sof: great show! really liked that Lazy Salon track
	♥ 8:08am duke: I love the term dunderheads.
	♥ 8:24am annie: oh, and dullard is a great word
	♥ 8:26am anerandros: What a wonderful song is Old Pendel <3 I'm enthralled and enticed.
	♥ 8:26am Jeffrey Davison: Mr. Pumpy: dully noted. And anyone a fan of "slopehead"?
	♥ 8:29am anerandros: Number Six: look at projects like "disaster radio", "project mesh", "dat project" and "scuttlebutt". There are good hackers working toward the goal of decentralisation in communication, social netowrks and of course the Internet. The interenet is still in its infancy. Net neutrality is hideous and detrumental but it's not the end. It may very well be a boost in a new beginning. Of course it will take very long before "the mass" could know or make the switch, but things are happening.
	♥ 8:31am anerandros: ps: it's still me. Aner Andros is from the WFMU app. I was cooking/having lunch.
	8:35am Stephen Society: Awakening from an exhausting week of work pressure, depleted, a bit shaky, with the world and US chaos adding trepidation to the exhaustion. I remembered, "Ah, 'tis Saturday...Shrunken Planet! My epiphany was this; I don't just "like" this show, it actually fulfills a spiritual need. Merci!
	♥ 8:37am duke: Unless you create a total end run around the owners of the pipes, without some form of regulation guaranteeing open access, we're trapped. It's bad enough that FB, google etc. filter what we see. We can choose not to use them. If the ISP and backbone owners can filter, we won't know what we're missing.
	♥ 8:39am anerandros: duke I agree with you on the backbone issue. It's the "only" single point of failure in all of this. I'm hopeful nonetheless. BPL could be an alternative to this but it's a far fetch.
	♥ 8:42am anerandros: Elon Musk, if you are reading this: the world needs your forsight and investments.... :D ps: BPL is en.wikipedia.org...
	♥ 8:43am duke: If ISPs are no longer going to be common carriers, are they responsible for the content they carry? Do they get a free ride on that also?
	♥ 8:45am duke: BPL might open up competition which is what the whole system needs
	♥ 8:46am annie: thank you for the most excellent show jeffrey!! a perfect selection for this snowy day..
	♥ 8:47am anerandros: duke, I don't fully understand your question about ISP. Could you rephrase it please? (my language barrier limits show here).
	♥ 8:48am anerandros: I agree with annie: it has been a fantastic show! and I apologise if I've somehow hijacked the comments. I do feel it's important to let people know tho.
	♥ 8:51am Jeffrey Davison: All intelligent comments and conversations welcome...
	♥ 8:51am Jeffrey Davison: Stephen Society: thanks for joining us. Glad the show hits you in just this way. That's the intention...
	♥ 8:52am duke: One of the effects ofnet neutrality was to make ISPs common carriers. That is, they are neutral carriers. If I do something illegal on the internet, it's not the ISPs fault. Just like if someone phones in a bomb threat, it's not the phone company's fault. The FCC will revoke ISPs common carrier status, but it's unclear if they become responsible for illegal content carried on their net.
	♥ 8:53am anerandros: duke, I see. Politcians and lobbies have long attempted to make ISP responsible and "fisrt line policing tools". So it's very likely that would happen as well.
	9:00am Stephen Society: Voices from the 'old, weird world.... thanks again Jeff!

Shrunken Planet with Jeffrey Davison: Playlist from December 9, 2017

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