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Favoriting March 5, 2018: Irwin Chusid cohosts the first Techtonic marathon show

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This evening, Irwin Chusid co-hosts for our first Techtonic show of the WFMU spring fundraising marathon!

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Tonight, Irwin Chusid and Mark Hurst discuss some of the recurring themes of Techtonic, such as...

• What are the alternatives to Big Tech, and why might we want to try them out?

• How does Silicon Valley respond to charges of making tech that's addictive (or otherwise harmful)?

• Where do we look to get inspiration for the true promise of tech? (See the interviews with Jace Clayton, Cheyenne Hohman, Andy Rehfeldt, among others.)

• Why should we pay attention to China and its technology?

• How is AI beginning to affect the economy (as shown in the interviews with Botnik's Bob Mankoff and Jamie Brew, and research scientist Janelle Shane)?

You can listen to Irwin Chusid on his own show this Wednesday (and every Wednesday), from 12pm to 3pm. See Irwin's past shows here.

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Artist Track Approx. start time
  Irwin Chusid co-hosts with Mark during this first show of the WFMU fundraising marathon.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting  
  Mark and Irwin talk tech    
  Excerpt of interview with Nir Eyal, author of "Hooked"   0:11:44 (Pop-up)
  Excerpt of interview with Gabriel Weinberg, founder of DuckDuckGo   0:30:51 (Pop-up)
Raymond Scott  Thermofax Effects   Favoriting 0:24:11 (Pop-up)
Shooby Taylor  I'll Get By   Favoriting 0:54:44 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  6:02pm
melinda:

Hello! Happy 1st marathon.
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northguineahills:

W000! Bring on the Techthons!
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queems:

yayy
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Just listened to this John Perry Barlow trib on PsychSalon :
psychedelicsalon.com...
- which I think would be of interest...
  6:07pm
melinda:

Jon Ronson is great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
neecher:

gonna pledge soon for that sweet usb shirt! loving the addition of techtonic to the schedule- the AI phone calls were my favourite so far
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark, Irwin!
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Webhamster Henry:

Shooby is Techtonic!
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Michael 98145:

never did have a facebook
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TDK60:

Welcome Irwin, didn't know about your book, will look up.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Anyone have an account on Urban Dictionary? No entry yet for "outsider music": www.urbandictionary.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Michael 98145:

[ www.amazon.com... ]
  6:14pm
kimzilla:

Hi folks!
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northguineahills:

I jumped from the tech-tech industry, now I do something I love. (although, I do tech, but for a better cause)(I make a lot less money, but am happy)
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TDK60:

Might it be good to look back at prior writers who more generally looked at human technology critically, from socio-politico-ecological-psychological, etc. angles?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone! Thanks for your support as you're pledging - either click the links at left or call 1-800-989-9368
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Webhamster Henry:

I love hearing the blinders in this guys explanations.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Mark Hurst:

@ngh - great to hear - I admire your approach!
@tdk60 - yes, good point - i am in the middle of reading "Technics and Civilization" by Lewis Mumford right now. several other books queued up after that...
  6:21pm
Listener Robert:

The casual user of heroin isn't "addicted" either.
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northguineahills:

Henry has an even better perspective then I, he know the ends and outs since the beforetime ;)
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Just heard this on NPR about a lady who had Pakinsons - which is a dopamine deficiency in the brain - & was given a medicine that floods the brain w/ a replacement.Dopamine is also the reward chemical in the brain - out of the blue she became an absolutely chronic Gambling Addict:
www.npr.org...
...If slot machines can become a Clinical concern - why not Tech??
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Webhamster Henry:

I had a discussion with someone today who wants to drop her website for Facebook only. So basically, it mean relinquishing control over their own content for the caprices of FB's visibility algorithms.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The Gym prevents Depression, probably. & Tech? What is the actual evidence...altho' a Gym may take yer cash...
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TDK60:

Hi Mark! Yes, Mumford is one of those! // WFMU allows us to use invisible imagination.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Webhamster Henry:

The simple motto of addiction is "I can stop any time I want to - I just don't want to", and "To cease smoking is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I've done it a thousand times." (Mark Twain)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Michael 98145:

the Archives are Mammoth !!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Michael 98145:

left coast represents !
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Dutchess County represents!
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TDK60:

Archive: Anyone who's really into, say, 2004, can "go there"...don't get lost in there...
  6:29pm
Ken:

Happy Marathon everybody
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northguineahills:

@Rev Rabbit: I do all of my exercise at home or on my bike (of course, w/in 30 mins this weekend, both brake cables snapped and I had to jump, tuck and roll on a patch of grass [I somehow came out w/ barely a bruise)])
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
chris:

hello, Mark and Irwin and folks.
my name is chris, and i'm addicted to fmu.
i, too am in tech in not-for-profit healthcare and have consistently eschewed taking my skills to the for profit sector. not to pat myself on the back, but just to say, like fmu, that choice matches my values.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Scott...the man behind Cartoon Impresario Carl Stalling...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

(...so to speak...wasn't that 'Powerhouse'?...)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Webhamster Henry:

The archives have also special sub-show and podcast archives like Irwin's own "Muriel's Treasure" and "Incorrect Music", and fill in DJs and special collections like A Rough Mix with Steinski's show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
queems:

yeah if we implement that here, i'm bailing
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chris:

we need to hear this stuff! china may be the first digital autocracy.
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TDK60:

Just heard Orwell is verboten there, of course!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Paying for stuff via smart phone is here. Some countries are ahead of the US already.
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chris:

great news about tech and china - chinadigitaltimes.net...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
ultradamno:

Is it possible there was no band called Techno Police State in the 80s?
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TDK60:

I'm very political.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Uncle Michael:

Thank you for your very kind words, Mark.
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northguineahills:

Incorrect Music hurts my brain, and in doing so, made me a better person. It's good to be challenged aesthetically. I highly recommend it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Michael 98145:

( plus, supporting this station supports the Free Music Archive, doesn't it ? )
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Webhamster Henry:

The USB Connectors look like DEVO or Kraftwerk.
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northguineahills:

Yes, that is true, Michael!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Michael 98145:

yay, Bas NL !
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northguineahills:

As said before, I use different browsers for different purposes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Rand al'Thor:

One thing I like about DuckDuckGo are the ! shortcuts it offers, once you set it to default.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Mark Hurst:

@U.M. - of course! Everyone should listen to Hinky Dinky Time on Friday afternoons on the Drummer stream!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Rand al'Thor:

For instance, in a new tab, I can type "!yt [search term]" to search YouTube.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Michael 98145:

guess i'm vanilla, using just firefox
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Michael 98145:

... with Ghostery
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Rand al'Thor:

duckduckgo.com...
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melinda:

I'm getting the Techtonic t-shirt! Didn't realize it was a Greg H design, too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Stepchild:

Hi Mark, Wow you've been here six months and to my great embarrassment today is the first time I've tuned in. But I'm gonna be here MUCH more often now!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
ultradamno:

All these concerns aside, I just never liked Chrome very much.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The great Google motto: 'Don't Be Evil'...
  6:48pm
Ike:

Quiet in phone room! Don't put it off like everybody else! Call NOW, you butts! 800-989-9368!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Michael 98145:

"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
  6:48pm
Listener Robert:

I miss the NEAR operator that Alta Vista and at least one other search engine (I forgot which) had. You could search for files where the words occurred within 15 or 25 words of each other. It's useful for discriminating against long, omnibus files that contain the words you're searching for the conjunction of, but in entirely separate contexts.

NEAR should be easily programmed in SNOBOL or some such.
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Linda Lee:

industry is government ~ that's how we roll now.
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Linda Lee:

.. so USA turns to shit.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I am shocked - shocked - to learn that gambling is going on on this establishment...
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Michael 98145:

Supposedly, BING has a 'near' operator : msdn.microsoft.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Michael 98145:

great duo, thanks, you two
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Linda Lee:

agree! love hearing you both!
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melinda:

Thanks for the urging, Irwin, this is show is an important addition to WFMU.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Michael 98145:

innovation ... for example, this playlist/comment board is exceptional
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Linda Lee:

"marginal multimedia empire" ~ love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Rand al'Thor:

Agreed. Started listening to this a few weeks ago, and really enjoy and appreciate it.
Avatar 6:56pm
TDK60:

The archive is very special...goes back to '99?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
melinda:

@Michael I agree.
  6:56pm
Listener Robert:

Thanks, Michael. I should use Bing more.
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Linda Lee:

@TDK60 ~ not quite as far as i do ~ but almost :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Michael 98145:

guess i trust MS slightly more than google. not sure why i should.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

SERIOUSLY. FMU - leagues ahead - for whut - 1/10th the normal station's budget ?!? It presents as goofy (which is great & healthy) - but it IS extraordinary.
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northguineahills:

Thanks Mark and Irwin!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

I suspect WFMU has a greater variety of T-shirts than the average radio station.
  6:57pm
yippie:

almighty opp brought puppets on the radio on wfmu
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

WFMU was the first streaming over an iPhone using a sneaky trick involving quicktime links... I think there were native streaming apps form other sources, but certain WFMU's and JM in the AM's original apps (which I wrote) were among the very earliest.
  6:58pm
Emily:

Techtonic expands MY mind! I am so happy you joined the FMU family, Mark!
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northguineahills:

@Michael: As I through my monitor across the office b/c of the numbskullery design of its software.
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Linda Lee:

i have indeed used up a pencil.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Michael 98145:

@ngh, well, there -is- that
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
geo in jc:

I have used up pencils.
  6:59pm
Emily:

Oh, and thanks Mark and Irwin! It’s been a great hour :)
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TDK60:

Love that Lo-Fi tech.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Rand al'Thor:

Congrats to the winners.
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βrian:

A perfectionist with a pencil-sharpener can use up a pencil in no time.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
ultradamno:

I've used up many, esp. the mod ones. Never a Ticonderoga.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Webhamster Henry:

Excellent Excerpts tonight!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Irwin!
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chris:

thanks, guys!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Rand al'Thor:

Thanks for the show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Michael 98145:

pencils - www.yelp.com...
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Linda Lee:

damn i love hearing shooby taylor! thanks gentlemen!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Shooby Taylor, the Human Modem!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
Michael 98145:

300 baud !
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βrian:

Super baud!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
Michael 98145:

let's all get fried
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