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Postwar atmospherica. High bop modernism and Afro-Latin sounds, twilight exotica and soundtrack moods, soul stompers and weepers, hypnotic R&B and blues, mystical '60s pop, lonely country, lonelier rock 'n' roll, instrumental weirdness, electronic creaking. Bringing worlds beyond into the worlds at hand.

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Options April 5, 2018

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Artist Track Album Comments Approx. start time
Les Baxter  Schooner   Options Bora Bora    0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
The Embers and Joe "Mack" Lackey  Alexandria   Options 7" 45    0:01:56 (Pop‑up)
Coco Lagos  Guajira Boogaloo   Options Ritmo Caliente    0:04:26 (Pop‑up)
Felix Caraballo  Candela   Options Que Vacilon con La Preferida De Felix Caraballo    0:07:55 (Pop‑up)
Locos del Ritmo  Ella No Está Ahí   Options 7" 45    0:13:40 (Pop‑up)
Honey Bees  Never In A Million Years   Options 7" 45    0:16:15 (Pop‑up)
Priscilla  He Noticed Me   Options 7" 45    0:18:33 (Pop‑up)
The Results  I Might As Well Forget Him   Options 7" 45    0:20:24 (Pop‑up)
The Hi Lifes  First Impressions   Options Soundsville!    0:23:21 (Pop‑up)
Human Expression  Love At Psychedelic Velocity   Options 7" 45    0:25:17 (Pop‑up)
 
Music behind DJ:
 
welcome to the club       0:27:32 (Pop‑up)
The Index  Israeli Blues   Options The Red Album    0:37:30 (Pop‑up)
The Mods  Spring Dance   Options Pakistan: Folk and Pop Instrumentals 1966-1976    0:40:53 (Pop‑up)
Centurions  Ishamatsu   Options Lost Legends Of Surf Guitar, Vol. 1    0:44:19 (Pop‑up)
The Lancers  When Johnny Comes Draggin' Home   Options 7" 45    0:46:42 (Pop‑up)
Nerve City  Living Wage   Options Nerve City: Recordings 2007-2008    0:49:24 (Pop‑up)
The Jesus & Mary Chain  Inside Me   Options Psychocandy    0:51:33 (Pop‑up)
Holy Motors  Signs   Options Slow Sundown  https://daily.bandcamp.com/2018/02/09/holy-motors-slow-sundown-review/  0:54:42 (Pop‑up)
Chris Isaak  Heart Shaped World   Options Heart Shaped World    0:58:46 (Pop‑up)
Clinic  The Majestic   Options Funf    1:02:24 (Pop‑up)
 
Music behind DJ:
 
the wide open       1:04:06 (Pop‑up)
The Dave Pell Singers  Oh, Calcutta   Options 7" 45    1:11:15 (Pop‑up)
Piero Umiliani  Pelle di Luna   Options La Ragazza Dalla Pelle di Luna    1:13:14 (Pop‑up)
Charlie Mitchell  After Hours   Options 7" 45    1:15:57 (Pop‑up)
Barry Forgie / Stringtronics  Hunted   Options Mindbender    1:19:23 (Pop‑up)
Peter Thomas Sound Orchester  Bolero on the Moon Rocks   Options Raumpatrouille    1:23:38 (Pop‑up)
Joe Haider  No Way   Options Focus Jazz: More Modern Jazz From the Wewerka Archive (1966-1969)    1:26:09 (Pop‑up)
Betty Blake  Moon and Sand   Options In a Tender Mood    1:27:42 (Pop‑up)
Les McCann & the Jazz Crusaders  Damascus   Options Jazz Waltz    1:29:42 (Pop‑up)
The 4 Most  The Breeze and I   Options 7" 45    1:33:31 (Pop‑up)
Yusef Lateef Quintet  Dopolous   Options 7" 45    1:35:48 (Pop‑up)
 
Music behind DJ:
 
bright groovy things       1:38:49 (Pop‑up)
Cordials  Eek   Options 7" 45    1:46:59 (Pop‑up)
The Jags, vocal by Walt Clark  Lost Woman   Options 7" 45    1:49:34 (Pop‑up)
Carl "Ace" Carter  Mexican Rock   Options 7" 45    1:52:08 (Pop‑up)
The Epics  Flea Espanol   Options 7" 45    1:54:23 (Pop‑up)
 
Music behind DJ:
 
isle of somewhere       1:56:24 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:01pm Kris Holmes:

Go Dan!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:02pm Little Danny:

Hey Kris! Thanks for joining mate
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:03pm Little Danny:

Hello friends! You are here
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:03pm coelacanth∅:

hey Danny! hey Kris!
...hey invisible others
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:04pm hyde:

hi
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:04pm coelacanth∅:

hey, how'd i know you were going to open with Les Baxter?!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:04pm Little Danny:

Coel, hyde! Hello!
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:04pm zonk ludlow:

Howdy LD & all. Love this Embers track.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:05pm Little Danny:

@Coel: you shoulda seen me leaping over my mixer at the last minute to grab some Baxter
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:05pm Little Danny:

Zonk! How's the weather in Sydney today? Perfect again?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:06pm melinda:

Hi everyone!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:06pm Little Danny:

Melinda! Come on in
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:08pm JtotheK:

hi danny, hi everyone.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:10pm Little Danny:

Heya Jason! Nice to bump into you. Was shocked you didn't pop yer head into the playlist during Duane's show yesterday when he played Stark Reality
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:10pm still b/p:

If I can get a note from DJ for comment carryover: I saw Yes twice in the mid-70s. Good both times. About a year ago, in a passing music discussion, someone stepped up and said “Ugh...Yes, ELP...” then made a gesture, the abbreviation for which is the same as for Jerry Orbach. Then she summed up the fans with a scoff, “You know, the ‘boys.’” I was amused and indignant at the broad rude rash dismissal. Hey, that’s components of my teen soundtrack yer kickin’ to the curb there.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:11pm Little Danny:

Still b/p: a lot to unpack there! I will be thinking about it even if you didn't intend me to
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:11pm Little Danny:

Does anyone recognize the riff that this Candela is borrowing a bit of? It's driving me crazy. I keep thinking it's some British Invasion hit. Kris?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:12pm JtotheK:

@Danny - yeah, been a hectic week - I was tuned in during the Stark Reality track, just didn't have a chance to comment! Though that reminds me, have to catch the last hour of Duane's show via archive over the weekend...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:13pm melinda:

@Danny I saw a friend this evening who had recently spent a week in Marfa and she was telling me about the hordes of nocturnal jackrabbits who hopped all over the road as she was driving into town. Is this a big thing there? It sounded unnerving.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:14pm Little Danny:

It is SOOOO unnerving Melinda. I wind up driving down the middle the road at slowed speed
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:15pm Dean:

Can't be worse than Priuses in Berkeley.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:16pm zonk ludlow:

Weather good, but not as pleasant as the tunes. Glad to be back here after an extended weird Easter break.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:16pm still b/p:

If the jackrabbits and javelinas start colluding.....watch out, Marfans!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:17pm Scraps ((((§)))):

h’lo h’lo
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:17pm Little Danny:

Still b/p re: Javelinas. Please see: www.google.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:17pm JtotheK:

hmmm. if i have a spare 2500$ i could procure honey and the bees 'dynamite exploded' 45 and this honey bees 'never in a million years' 45.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:18pm Anthony!:

@still who cares what others think? I was listening to the Beatles in middle school and hipsters of that era made fun of me because it wasn’t Kansas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:18pm melinda:

She said her friend had said 'watch out for the rabbits' but that didn't quite prepare her. The whole thing- including the warning- sounded like a low-budget horror movie. @b/p that would definitely be a low-grade horror flick!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:19pm Little Danny:

re Javelinas actually try this: bigbendnow.com...
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:19pm Anthony!:

Hey Danny are you one of the NJ DJs or do you remote your show?
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:20pm Little Danny:

One of my all time fave girl group soul records Jason!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:20pm melinda:

Most of us have our teen music dissed at some point.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:20pm Little Danny:

Scraps! Hello! And hello Anthony!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:20pm doctorjazz:

Hi Danny and Flame throwers!
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:21pm Kris Holmes:

didn't recognise the Candela riff sorry
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:22pm Anthony!:

I have my adult music dissed on the WFMU boards. It’s fun.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:22pm Little Danny:

The good doctor! Good!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:23pm Little Danny:

@Anthony: I'm remote
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:23pm Scraps ((((§)))):

@melinda: re rabbit horror film: Night of the Lepus!
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:24pm Anthony!:

Danny how much upload speed do you need to remote your show?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:24pm melinda:

haha
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:26pm Kris Holmes:

i mean, some of the phrases start sounding like The Zombies "She's Not There" & the middle bit kinda sounds like a bite of "In A Gadda Da Vida" but otherwise no idea
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:27pm Little Danny:

I was thinking "She's Not There" too
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:29pm Kris Holmes:

there we go
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:30pm Scraps ((((§))))):

@melinda: You do know I’m referring to an actual (legendarily bad) movie, right? Starring DeForrest Kelly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:30pm melinda:

Ella No Está Ahí = She's Not There, but I thought it was "allí" rather than "ahí"
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:31pm Kris Holmes:

Design was a sub of Pickwick
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:31pm coelacanth∅:

i wish i'd heard that Caraballo track. i like to test myself. i was washing a pot (not cleaning "pot") & barely heard it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:31pm melinda:

@Scraps no, I'll have to look that up!
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:32pm Anthony!:

@milinda if I had a WFMU show, for the first show I would ask, “what song do you want to hear” as my first words on the air and then proceed to play the longest version of Freebird I can dig up. There is rumored to be a 29minute version. Then I would play a 30minute live version of the Grateful Dead’s Playing in the Band.

For the second hour I would play the 2112 Suite by Rush. That would be my show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:32pm coelacanth∅:

Priscilla was sensuous she was!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:33pm Scraps ((((§))))):

Made from an actual book even better titled Night of the Angry Rabbit. No, true!

www.rifftrax.com...
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:34pm Kris Holmes:

Don't say Freebird around me lol
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:35pm Anthony!:

I won’t say it. I would just play it.
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:35pm Kris Holmes:

Vibraphone is tuned percussion, any instrument you hit is percussion
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:35pm coelacanth∅:

haha Kris! but you "like lynard skynard"!
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:36pm Anthony!:

Do peeps scream for Freebird in nyc shows?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:37pm coelacanth∅:

@10.35 that's why it urks me when people call a kalimba a "thumb piano"! (piano being a percussion instrument; it's more like a "thumb harpsichord")
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:37pm Kris Holmes:

what's not to like :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:37pm JtotheK:

wait, cecil taylor passed away????
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:38pm Kris Holmes:

oh damn, apparently :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:38pm coelacanth∅:

no!! did he?
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:38pm Dean:

Aw, shit. Cecil Taylor, g'bye.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:39pm doctorjazz:

Cecil Taylor! Man.........
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:39pm Anthony!:

@kris you got that right!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:39pm Scraps ((((§)))):

if that’s true: FUCK
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:39pm Anthony!:

Free jazz just lost its father.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:40pm coelacanth∅:

Fuck me man. he was supposed to live forever -and tour forever....or at least until i got to see him.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:40pm Scraps ((((§)))):

Well.... Ornette already died
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:40pm zonk ludlow:

Like the Pere Ubu vibe The Index have tapped into. Must find out more.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:41pm Anthony!:

en.m.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:41pm doctorjazz:

Looks like Wikipedia has updated it...
en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:42pm Scraps ((((§)))):

I did see the second concert of Cecil & Max Roach in New York
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:42pm Anthony!:

I always thought Ornette kept one foot in the post bop territory. Cecil just went mad Free.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:42pm coelacanth∅:

Ornette, now Cecil...and Lennie Tristano left a long time ago.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:42pm Little Danny:

@Zonk: The Index is one of THEE great garage band LPs: therisingstorm.net...
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:42pm Dean:

He wasn't supposed to show at Victo, due to customs and immigration. But then, lo, he appeared! Maybe he'll do that one again.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:43pm zonk ludlow:

Sad news about Cecil Taylor. Recently saw him in a doco filmed not so many years ago, he was a true gent
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:44pm Little Danny:

Did Cecil Taylor ever make any kinda Latin "inspired" recordings? (Realizing of course that they'll be pretty radical either way) Really don't know his discography at all
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:44pm zonk ludlow:

Thanks for the heads up LD. I'll be tracking it down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:45pm coelacanth∅:

Ornette was as "free" or "freer" as/than Cecil in the late 50s; then Ornette dabbled in almost complete freedom but dabbled more with some vague structure, while Cecil seemed to get more and more wild for a long time...
not that i really know.
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:46pm Kris Holmes:

Centurians are great! Bullwinkle :)
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:49pm Dean:

"Nefertiti" is Latin, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:49pm Scraps ((((§)))):

My friend went to Antioch when Cecil Taylor was Visiting (or something); she said he maintained white people couldn’t understand his music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:49pm coelacanth∅:

Danny, i have 4 of his 5 first albums, before he stopped performing anyone else's material and before he went full-on free, and i'll say -no.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:51pm Scraps ((((§)))):

I have many albums throughout his career, and as far as I know, he never went close to Latin
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:53pm Little Danny:

Yes indeed Kris! Top five surf LPs their "Surfers' Pajama Party"
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:54pm Kris Holmes:

Dan you need to get a copy of Unit Structures by Cecil Taylor & lose yourself in it for a couple of days :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:54pm doctorjazz:

He did "standards" in the early bands with Buell Neidlinger, some originals; Unit Structures had him taking it "all outside", though there was still composition and structure. I don't hear early Ornette as fully free-he dropped the chord instrument, played over bar lines, but had a Texas R & B groove running through his early music (which never went away). The tunes are quite hummable. The Pulse was very steady.
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:55pm Anthony!:

www.google.com...!,H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLUz9U3MLQwMjdT4gIxjUyMjSsytIR8S4szkx2LSjKLS0LyHXOSSnMB6F7TcS0AAAA The first track hints at Spanish art music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:56pm doctorjazz:

Gary Giddens, the jazz critic, once described Taylor's piano playing as playing drums with 10 fingers on tehe piano, or something to that effect. That's a pretty good description of the impact the music had.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:56pm Scraps ((((§)))):

And yet, Ornette called one album Free Music in 1961
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:56pm coelacanth∅:

true...when i say Ornette "dabbled" with almost complete freedom i basically refer to the album,"free jazz".
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:56pm Dean:

One of my favorites is "Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye," but speaking of favorites respecting Taylor seems kinda silly.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:56pm Little Danny:

@Kris: I've tried with Cecil Taylor and that album in particular but I just can't ultimately hang. Ornette's about as free as I go. Massive respect for him tho
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:57pm Little Danny:

Thanks Anthony!
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 10:57pm Kris Holmes:

ah ok
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:57pm Anthony!:

Conquistador Was the album I was trying to link to.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:58pm Little Danny:

I guessed
  Thu. 4/5/18 10:58pm Anthony!:

Blue note records.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:58pm Little Danny:

Has anyone heard this: en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 10:59pm JtotheK:

gonna have to catch the rest via archives - thanks Danny! cheers everyone. (and kris - agreed about unit structures, gonna listen this weekend...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 10:59pm Scraps ((((§)))):

@Dean, that’s the Taylor album that’s my favorite. But it’s the first one I bought, so....
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:00pm Dean:

Jazz Advance?! Hell, yeah. His work with Lacy, whose loss I continue to lament.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:00pm coelacanth∅:

i guess Cecil did do other people's compositions for a long time, but by 1960 -the album "the world of..." he was getting pretty out there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:01pm doctorjazz:

He's not an easy listen. I've told this story on a chat board here once or twice, but I'll tell it again. He was playing in the Village, NYC (club that was short lived). The times used to feature a concert with a write up, and went on about how Taylor had changed his style, he now had softer passages, and had "mellowed". I went to the show, there was a line around the block, figured I'd never get in, but got on the line. Turned out, people kept leaving the show and seats kept opening up. The Times was right; there were louder, bombastic parts of the show, and softer moments...but the softer sections were as dissonant as the louder ones (the Times had a lot of influence in those days). Was a great show, eventually got to sit in front, when those people left.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:01pm coelacanth∅:

tchau JK
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:01pm Scraps ((((§)))):

Lacy was amazing. Like a hundred albums, and not one was boring
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:01pm Anthony!:

If you are looking for something to play...you’d be someone nice to come home to has a good entry point. It’s 9 minutes.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:02pm Anthony!:

That’s a track on jazz advance.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:03pm Little Danny:

I've gotta imagine Jazz Advance as his most straightforward, right?
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:03pm Dean:

Without getting into a debate about theory and such, I gotta say that "free" is a bit of a misnomer, since no human performance/expression/behavior is entirely so. "Free" has a metaphorical force we value, and rightly so, but it isn't an accurate measure.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:05pm coelacanth∅:

heh, yeah -this why i use quotation marks a lot!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:05pm Uncle Michael:

Game over. Cubs win. Tuned in...heading for bed soon...
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:06pm Dean:

And, you know, Beethoven isn't always an easy listen, either. That was, precisely, his point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:06pm Uncle Michael:

Wicked Game
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:08pm coelacanth∅:

Danny, probably...maybe...! "love for sale" seems pretty "accessible" to me. an excellent album, as well.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:08pm Dean:

Remind me: baseball's the one that doesn't have a net or a goal post?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:09pm Uncle Michael:

It's the one where the defense puts the ball in play.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:10pm Scraps ((((§)))):

Wikipedia, a good piece on Free Jazz: “The true beginning of free jazz as it is understood today, however, came with the recordings of Ornette Coleman. Coleman pioneered many techniques typical of free jazz, most notably his rejection of pre-written chord changes, believing instead that freely improvised melodic lines should serve as the basis for harmonic progression in his compositions.” etc.

I think Ornette was the “father”, and Taylor took it way farther.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:11pm coelacanth∅:

Anthony @10.55 i guess it "hints"! really great album too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:12pm Uncle Michael:

I'm a fan of this Dave Pell track.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:12pm Little Danny:

Thanks Michael! Cubs winning is good, right?
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:13pm Little Danny:

Of course you are Michael!
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:13pm MrFab:

early Gato Barbieri (before he went all icky smooth-jazz) is a great free/latin mix.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:13pm coelacanth∅:

Scraps, i agree with you, regarding that.
...and -maybe Ornette was inspired by Tristano?
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:14pm northguineahills:

Wait, what's going on in here!??
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:14pm Anthony!:

I will concede that Ornette is probably the father of Free jazz. But I will also assert my authority here on Southern Rock.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:14pm coelacanth∅:

Cecil has left the building.
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:14pm Little Danny:

I can't quite follow it myself NGH.! I think Cecil Taylor may have something to do with it howevs
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:15pm Dean:

"...the one where the defense puts the ball in play": sounds like sexual harassment to me!
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:15pm Anthony!:

Music nerds arguing NG H
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:16pm coelacanth∅:

the main point i'd like to say about southern rock
- no never mind!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:16pm Scraps ((((§)))):

Tristano, in the same article: “While free jazz is widely considered to begin in the late 1950s, there are compositions that precede this era that have notable connections to the free jazz aesthetic. Some of the works of Lennie Tristano in the late 1940s, particularly "Intuition", "Digression", and "Descent into the Maelstrom" exhibit the use of techniques associated with free jazz, such as atonal collective improvisation and lack of discrete chord changes.“
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:17pm melinda:

@anthony haha
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:17pm Little Danny:

Proudly argue, nerds! I wanna dive into the details
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:17pm coelacanth∅:

he dabbled.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:18pm Scraps ((((§)))):

I hafta go for at least half an hour..... cheers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:18pm Uncle Michael:

Goodnight, proud nerds...wherever you are (with Mrs. Calabash?).
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:19pm northguineahills:

I can't find anything about Cecil Taylor's passing online (glad I saw him live a few times).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:19pm coelacanth∅:

i guess Lennie gets overlooked because he wasn't so prolific; but i really like those tracks. (i have on a split lp)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:20pm MrFab:

oh, and if I may add Sun Ra to the free/Latin discussion. THo he was probly more 'exotic' than authentically Latin like Gato.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:20pm coelacanth∅:

later on, Scraps
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:20pm northguineahills:

I may be a music nerd, but not a record nerd (although my wife would disagree on the latter).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:21pm doctorjazz:

As someone mentioned, Tristano's group released some free improv in the 40's (though it didn't pave the way for anything else). Intuition, in 1949. One can argue this forever, but I think Cecil, even when he was playing "standards", was pushing at the boundaries same as Ornette, at about the same time.
My $0.02.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:21pm coelacanth∅:

i was a teenage record nerd.
i'd be still if i could afford an apartment or house big enough to store them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:22pm doctorjazz:

Sad...
Gotta go, bye all! (early morning).
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm Little Danny:

Yo MrFab! Yes to both Sun Ra and Gato Barbieri
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm northguineahills:

Wait, I missed Jesus & the Mary Chain !(I have a sad :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm coelacanth∅:

Cecil definitely pushed the boundaries from the beginning, as did Ornette.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm coelacanth∅:

seeya doc
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm northguineahills:

buena noche, oche!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:23pm coelacanth∅:

'night UM
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:24pm northguineahills:

we'll UM in the noontide (seeya UM!)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:25pm Anthony!:

What is the most important question in music? And what is the answer to that question?
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:26pm northguineahills:

We'll see UM in the noontide (no one would think I speak English as my native language, I swear)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:26pm coelacanth∅:

(i'll be outside working during our Uncle's show, unless there's still snow on the ground tomorrow afternoon)
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:27pm Little Danny:

Of course I would start playing jazz as soon as docjazz left the room...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:27pm coelacanth∅:

"how much is that doggie in the window?" ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:27pm doctorjazz:

Hurry up, still here, I'll get ready in my jammies while you play it...like this Haider track, by the way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:28pm coelacanth∅:

(a) "it's a rescue. free to a good home!")
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:29pm northguineahills:

Ok, and now spellcheck changed doc to oche (demasiado espanol, apparently)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:29pm coelacanth∅:

(...is that what you were looking for,Anthony?)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:31pm coelacanth∅:

hahaha ngh! i was wondering about that but i trusted your judgement!
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:32pm Anthony!:

@coela naw, you know the question, come on!

m.youtube.com...
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:33pm Doctorjazz:

Buenos noche oche had a nice ring, ngh!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:33pm coelacanth∅:

no not really! if you mean "about music" then the only thing i can come up with is "do you like it?" yes? then it's good music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:35pm coelacanth∅:

(sorry -not clicking links to videos or unknown web pages on this laptop)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:36pm Anthony!:

The question is “what song is it that you want to hear?”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:37pm coelacanth∅:

oh -haha!

...the one that's on now.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:38pm Anthony!:

And the second most important question in music is “do you feel like we do?”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:40pm coelacanth∅:

oh, wait a cottin'pickin' minit he-ya! is that video for freebird?!
(i know the 2nd question is from a Peter Frampton song)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:41pm Doctorjazz:

Whole Lotta Lateef tonight, Flash started with a nice set.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:41pm Anthony:

10-4
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:43pm Anthony:

You could cue up both of those songs if you were an overnight DJ and have nearly 40minutes which came in handy if your girlfriend visited you at 3am.
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:45pm northguineahills:

DJ Bryce: Challenge accepted! *cues 3 hour + track*

(it's happened before, he only interrupted for the legal station ID)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:46pm coelacanth∅:

i'll be honest. i never want to hear freebird...at least not by lynard skynard. if it comes on the radio, i turn it off. if someone plays it at the pub, i leave (maybe just for a while)
...never.
i could cue up rattlesnake shake by fleetwood mac and then bitches brew and do just as well!
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:47pm still b/p:

Discussed with friend musician who hates the yukster’s yelled Freebird request how we should do alt versions of it in (penalty) extended response— e.g. as an overwrought Irish ballad — and see how they like it then, yeahhhh.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:48pm Anthony:

Those are good choices.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:49pm coelacanth∅:

i'm down with versions. (well, not if Eric Clapton does it!)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:49pm Anthony:

NGH DJ Bryce?
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:49pm northguineahills:

I have the live version of freebird on vinyl, it's almost 18 minutes long.. And yes, I dj it (w/ in the same show where I play Xenakis, Merzbow, and Richie Hawtin). I like to draw in an repulse the same crowds and challenge what they think they like about sound (and I enthusiastically love all of my choices, I don't do irony).
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:50pm Little Danny:

Never have "Free Bird" and "Free Jazz" been argued so passionately alongside each other!
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:50pm northguineahills:

@Anthony: Yeah, WFMU dj Bryce who plays Fridays on the mothership noon to 3pm EDT).
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:51pm northguineahills:

(if you think Fabio is outre, then comes Bryce)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:52pm Anthony:

And during your show! You ought to tell the listeners what they are missing.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:52pm Dean:

I don't quite get the aversion to "Free Bird." How is it any different than the gazillions of overplayed pop tunes we pretend to admire?
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:52pm northguineahills:

@LD: I have passion for both Free Jazz and FreeBird, you have no idea!
Avatar 🎃 Thu. 4/5/18 11:53pm Little Danny:

NGH: There was way more overlap in that Venn diagram amongst tonight's listeners than I'd ever believed
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:54pm northguineahills:

oh, before I bounce along into my slumber, Thanks LD and my fellow WoofMooers!
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:54pm zonk ludlow:

Cool show Danny, although it went in a flash. Hope those Marfa jackrabbits give you right of way until we next meet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:54pm coelacanth∅:

Dean, it's just bad. the lyrics are juvenile and the jam is predictable and boring.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:55pm Anthony:

The aversion is due to the lamest joke you can try at a gig. Some dude thinks it’s funny to yell Freebird while Sonic Youth plays. What would be really punk rock would be Sonic Youth playing Freebird! To that request.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:56pm coelacanth∅:

gnight ngh
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:56pm Dean:

@coelacanth∅, Yes, of course. But I repeat, "How is it any different than the gazillions of overplayed pop tunes we pretend to admire?"
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:57pm Dean:

Frankly, I'd prefer "Free Bird" to Sonic Youth, but that's just me.
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:57pm northguineahills:

@coel: You don't understand the misinterpretation of the usual rednecks of Freebird. It is all about irony of loving the South. The fact that people ate it up, just gave them bread (I've hung out w/ the drummer, Artemis Pyle).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:57pm coelacanth∅:

no that's not the aversion. it's because it's a 1/2 decent band's lame attempt to out-jam Neil Young when they really didn't have it in 'em.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:58pm Anthony:

NGH exactly.
Avatar Thu. 4/5/18 11:58pm northguineahills:

(and yes, Ronnie Van Zant was huge Neil Young fan.)
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:58pm Anthony:

I think it takes a “hip”southerner to understand that.
  Thu. 4/5/18 11:58pm Dean:

(I don't like Neil Young, either.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 4/5/18 11:58pm coelacanth∅:

so,ngh, i should read the lyrics.
i will do that; but i still think what i do about the jam. uninspired.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 4/6/18 12:00am coelacanth∅:

and Dean, i don't know what songs people pretend to admire. i don't pretend to admire anything. i promise.
Avatar Fri. 4/6/18 12:00am northguineahills:

(they were against segregation, they were against racism).

@Dean: see the manufactured 'feud' btn Neil Young fans and Skynyrd.
Avatar Fri. 4/6/18 12:00am northguineahills:

and that Ronnie was buried in a Neil Young tee shirt....
Avatar Fri. 4/6/18 12:01am northguineahills:

@coel: (listen to the laughter and the averbal breaks) it shows that they very unserious.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 4/6/18 12:01am coelacanth∅:

ngh, i know this. i used to hate them for what they seemed like. i do not now. i still hate that song!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 4/6/18 12:02am coelacanth∅:

Thanks Danny! Excellent soundtrack!

tchau camaradas
Avatar Fri. 4/6/18 12:02am northguineahills:

@coel: I only love music and culture genuinely. Usually after much investigation.
  Fri. 4/6/18 12:06am Anthony!:

Amen brother.
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