WFMU RADIO: Give The Drummer Some 04/06/18

Listener comments!

Early hello Doug, will be absent for most of the show.
D:O was celebrating Cecil Taylor's birthday only two weeks ago.
To quote a Lord Buckley line about Joyce Cary's character Gully Jimson. The nurse says "Don't you think that you should laugh a little less and pray a little more"
Gully "It's the same thing" And then he flipped out.

🥁 ♥ 8:10am duke:

Cecil Taylor died?! I knew something was wrong when I woke up this morning. The world has suffered a great loss.

♥ 8:11am Doug Schulkind:

'Tis true, duke. 'Tis awfully true.

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♥ 8:20am Brian in UK:

Doug, email swap has worked. Thanks.

♥ 8:21am Doug Schulkind:

@Brian in UK
I will flog my intern a little less today.

♥ 8:24am annie:

good morning, it's going to be a good show today; sad for the circumstances, though. great photo, doug!

♥ 8:29am Doug Schulkind:

Great greetings, annie!

♥ 8:29am annie:

clicked the pop-up to get a half-hour of random drummer-some-ness before the show. i was listening to KSDS, they have great early morning jazz; no mention whatsoever of cecil at all.

♥ 8:45am Doug Schulkind:

Columbia University's WKCR is playing Cecil all day today before switching at midnight to their Billie Holiday birthday broadcast.

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♥ 8:47am doctorjazz:

Hi-sad to hear CT passed. Will check out WKCR after the GTDR and UM shows.

♥ 8:49am Doug Schulkind:

@doctorjazz
You are free to roam about the cabin of your mind. Until the captain illuminates the Seat Belt sign. of course.

8:58am ausmanx:

a strange conjoining, but Cecil and Mark E Smith within a couple of months, there's too much to celebrate right there (and i see these things as excuses to celebrate the work). good evening all, now we've gone off summer time, i get more Drummer, which is pleasing

♥ 8:59am Doug Schulkind:

Pleased you are pleased, ausmanx.

9:01am Listener Robert:

Wait -- when you come on and say, "Give the Drummer Some begins in 3 minutes," doesn't that mean that in fact it's already begun?

♥ 9:04am Doug Schulkind:

@Listener Robert
That would imply that I am fucking with the time/space continuum.

9:05am Cheri Pi:

Buckled in.

9:06am Ike:

Give the Drummer a TARDIS

♥ 9:09am Doug Schulkind:

Hello, dear Cheri! Hello, dear Ike!

♥ 9:11am annie:

...and i wanted to mention that the movie "The Winding Stream" on netflix is pleasingly good; i tend to avoid the voice-over deals. this is done in excellent taste and the ending is wonderful.

♥ 9:12am Doug Schulkind:

@annie
I like streams.

9:13am Ike:

Give the Letters Arms (and/or Butts?) and a TARDIS

9:13am Listener Robert:

When Ken announced this week that WFMU was about to inaugurate yet another audio stream, I inferred something I hadn't appreciated. Since the existing streams still consist largely of curated-automated hours, that means you must enjoy curating them so much that it chafes a little when some of those hours get a DJ, hence the demand for another stream.

♥ 9:14am annie:

i bet you do!!!! the upside to the movie's title is that it's one of my favorite tunes for ear-worm ness.... so i'v been humming it as long as the the next one invades my brain.

♥ 9:16am annie:

how soon will it start LR?

♥ 9:16am Doug Schulkind:

More DJs! More streams!

9:24am Listener Robert:

I don't know when, annie. However, I've been wondering for a while whether WFMU would be better off with a franchise model for the streams. That is, that WFMU would adopt them as official while keeping Auricle Communications out of them financially, except maybe for seed money.

I think that was approximately the arrangement for Newt Radio from the Newton Theatre a year ago, which unfortunately couldn't stand on its own after a quarter of operation and so folded. Apparently the charter of the non-profit running the theater wouldn't allow continued support.

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♥ 9:30am Uncle Michael:

Ken only announced that another stream is being considered.

The GTDR stream is not a financial drag on the station. We bring in more than we cost to operate.

But hey, facts...

9:30am Ramblin' Ray:

Hello Doug and fellow ear-wiggers!

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♥ 9:32am Uncle Michael:

And Robert, your inference that the demand for a new stream has anything at all to do with any existing stream's willingness to host more live programming is just ludicrous.

♥ 9:32am annie:

personally, i listen to the alternate streams not very often, mostly just when radio options are skimpy. yeah, i would expect that drummersome stream does do pretty well.. how do the other streams fit into that? are they counted?

9:34am Jeff g. via app, at UVM:

Not a financial drag, but we do add some wind resistance.

REST IN POETRY, CECIL.

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♥ 9:35am Andrew Waterloo:

the streams have the advantage of being curated by someone else, and not having many constraints. I feel like I've neglected the Ichiban stream now that it has a few shows.

♥ 9:38am Doug Schulkind:

Hey hey, Ramblin' Ray!

♥ 9:39am Goyim in the AM:

I love the Drummer djs and the Ichiban robot more than vice versa, but I love all of it more than anything non-WFMU. I am sad about Cecil Taylor, and amazed that he kept turning back to being a productive genius after, shall we say, certain self-induced challenges in his life.

♥ 9:40am Doug Schulkind:

Streams. DJs. Curators. WFMU. The more the merrier. Having only two years is a bitch.

9:42am Mr C:

Doug..are familiar with Tyler Coe's Cocaine & Rhinestones podcast? Terrific.
Tyler is David Allen's son..

9:42am Lore:

Denis Charles!

♥ 9:42am Ike:

Give Each DJ a Stream and/or Drummers and/or (Non-Semiautomatic) Ludicrous Arms and/or Butts and/or a TARDIS

🥁 ♥ 9:43am bobdc:

Reading up on Buell Neidlinger on Wikipedia I am knocked out. Besides Cecil Taylor: Tony Bennett's "I Left My Heart in San Francisco," the Eagles' "Hotel California," Jimmy Giuffre, Frank Zappa, Van Dyle Parks, Earth Wind and Fire, Barbara Streisand, and more. And I guess we just lost him a few weeks ago.

♥ 9:45am Doug Schulkind:

@Lore
More Denis Charles on this trio performance!

@Mr C
I have subscribed to that podcast and plan to begin listening as soon as I graduate (in three weeks!).

♥ 9:46am Doug Schulkind:

Buell Neidlinger is playing here, too. And he is playing with Mr. Taylor, again and forever.

♥ 9:47am Doug Schulkind:

BTW, The fellow setting up the new stream for WFMU is a fine fellow. I am happily providing technical assistance.

🥁 ♥ 9:48am bobdc:

That's why I looked Neidlinger up. I will certainly listen to more.

♥ 9:48am Doug Schulkind:

Cecil Taylor plays Cole Porter. About the only thing better might have been Cole Porter playing Cecil Taylor.

♥ 9:52am Doug Schulkind:

Listening to Unit Structures for the first time is like losing your virginity.

♥ 9:53am Doug Schulkind:

Greetings, bobdc! You will have a good time seeking out more Buell.

♥ 9:53am Doug Schulkind:

And good afternoon, Goyim in the AM!

♥ 9:54am Doug Schulkind:

And woo-hoo, Andrew Waterloo!

♥ 9:54am Doug Schulkind:

Big phat kiss to anyone I missed.

9:56am ((§ Scraps §)):

hey h’lo

9:56am Listener Gregory:

I don't tune in to GTDS to get bad news, and yet here it is. Well, at least it's being covered, and Cecil is getting props. Thanks, Doug.

9:56am ((§ Scraps §)):

Kiss for me!

♥ 9:57am Doug Schulkind:

Left cheek of Listener Gregory! Right cheel of Listener Scraps! Middle cheek to everyone!

9:58am sinner:

Magnificent article from 2015 on Taylor by the Argentinian writer Cesar Aira in BOMB magazine: https://bombmagazine.org/articles/cecil-taylor/

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♥ 9:58am doctorjazz:

Buell Neidlinger had great bands of his own as well-with Marty Kristal in Krystal Klear and the Buels, and some of my favorite bluegrass/jazz hybrid albums, Buellgrass (one with the amazing Andy Statman on mandolin).

♥ 9:59am Doug Schulkind:

Thanks for sharing that, sinner!

♥ 10:00am Doug Schulkind:

If you've got headphones, this track ADORES them.

10:02am JtotheK:

Hi Doug, thanks for the Cecil tunes. Hi everyone.

10:03am ((§ scraps §)):

I like the Ubu stream, but it’s lonely out there. I had to tell the people that Ubu was down three separate times, and once it was down for several days when I finally got round to tell the people; far as I could tell, nobody else bothered (though the WFMU people appreciated being told)

♥ 10:05am Doug Schulkind:

From one perspective, the story of this legendary duet performance at Carnegie Hall: jazztimes.com...

♥ 10:05am Doug Schulkind:

JtothemotherlovingK!

10:06am ((§ scraps §)):

I had the Taylor / Williams album. It was disappointing, for sure

10:14am JtotheK:

I have a book on my to-read pile by LeRoi Jones, ‘Black Music’, a collection of his writing from the 60s. In which he devotes a few articles to Cecil Taylor. I will be reading over the weekend!

10:15am crissbiscit:

I bought Unit Structures last year, I lost the first encounter but I think I'm due another round.

♥ 10:17am Webhamster Henry:

I'm rabidly pro-stream! There have always been more excellent WFMU Hosts than can fit on the air or show up in Jersey City. Every once in a while, there are two realtime shows on simultaneously that I want to hear, so archives to the rescue!

🥁 ♥ 10:19am βrian:

Striated clouds over a chilly isthmus today. Good morning.

♥ 10:19am !ke:

I've heard music in my time that amazed, astonished, gobsmacked, irritated, terrified, and delighted me in tremendous and edifying ways (mostly on WFMU or its streams); I've heard music that has made me nearly hallucinate; I've heard music that has made me nearly levitate or feel like I'm in the atmosphere, or in Hell (the latter mostly Diamanda Galas, of course); but I've gotta say, Doug, in reply to your comment, I've never heard anything that was like losing my virginity. Nope.

🥁 ♥ 10:19am duke:

@JtotheK I read that book in college. Opened my ears to much interesting music.

10:19am ausmanx:

so john allen is playing cecil at the same time over on the main stream... what to do? double streaming?

♥ 10:20am Doug Schulkind:

@crissbiscit
Find a copy of Cecil's Conquistador on Blue Note. It is finery.

♥ 10:20am Doug Schulkind:

I have queued up what John Allen is playing right now!

♥ 10:21am Doug Schulkind:

And he just played "Steps" from Unit Structures. I guess we are a sorry predictable lot!

♥ 10:21am northguineahills:

Glad I got to see Cecil a few times. He had a good run!

🥁 ♥ 10:21am βrian:

@!ke: Because that might be the shortest track ever played on WFMU? (Oh, maybe I"m projecting.)

♥ 10:22am !ke:

Harsh! LOL

♥ 10:24am Doug Schulkind:

Speaking of great books on music, my favorite music book of all time, Val Wilmer's As Serious as Your Life, has just been republished!

🥁 ♥ 10:25am βrian:

Can we talk about music on books now?

10:25am Listener Gregory:

Doug, could you reveal the personnel on Nefertiti? I have the album, but it's a commuting distance away at the moment.

♥ 10:26am Doug Schulkind:

@Listener Gregory

Cecil Taylor – piano
Jimmy Lyons – alto saxophone
Sunny Murray – drums

♥ 10:28am northguineahills:

@Ike: I have, but the pH was lowered in my brain when I lost my virginity, and I was listening to an album that's still a favorite of mine (the two became intertwined).

Coincidentally, I'm making pH maps right now.

TMI, lo siento....

10:29am (((§ scraps §))):

The best Taylor-plus-band album, IMGDO, is =One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye= (1980), on Hat Hut. Six glorious LP sides.

♥ 10:29am !ke:

pH was lowered in your brain?!? What on Earth does that even mean? And how can you tell?

♥ 10:29am Doug Schulkind:

Not sure anyone affiliated with WFMU has played more Cecil Taylor than the Drummer Stream's Jeff Golick. If there is one person, it would be Scott McDowell, host of The Long Rally.

Jeff Golick is on the stream this Sunday with D:O Radio. Then, Scott McDowell will be filling in for Jeff on the following Sunday, April 15. So there likely to be a lot more Cecil Taylor on the Drummer Stream for a good while.

🥁 ♥ 10:33am βrian:

My soundtrack was the gentle soughing of the wind through moonlit pine trees.

♥ 10:34am Doug Schulkind:

Speaking of great stuff on the Drummer Stream, don't forget that Uncle Michael will be featuring three hours of music from 1939 on Hinky Dinky Time today! Coming up next right after GTDS.

PLAYLIST: wfmu.org...

♥ 10:35am Doug Schulkind:

@βrian
Have the lakes unfroze yet?

10:36am crissbiscit:

@Doug. I will do.. I used to listen to you regularly years ago but one thing and another... Glad to have tuned in again from the rainy Isle of Man..

🥁 ♥ 10:37am βrian:

Yes, around the 1st of April, I fool you not.

10:37am Cecile:

Doug, got anything from Winged Serpent? That is a monster.

RIP Cecil Taylor.

10:37am Cecile:

Doug. I can say at least for Upper Michigan, "no".

♥ 10:40am Doug Schulkind:

A monster track is coming next. 25 minutes 32 seconds, though I wish they would play forever. Live from the Black Forest.

The Eel Pot

A monster.

♥ 10:42am northguineahills:

@ike: This should give you a clue: C20H25N3O

♥ 10:44am Doug Schulkind:

No one has played the piano this way, before or since. Other have pounded and beautifully, but never this scientifically and intelligently.

♥ 10:44am northguineahills:

let's just say the experience wasn't alkaline....

10:45am JtotheK:

@Duke 9:19 - yeah that book will talk about records new to me, I’m sure!

♥ 10:46am Doug Schulkind:

These fine people were live in the Black Forest:

Cecil Taylor: piano
Jimmy Lyons: alto saxophone
Raphe Malik: trumpet
Ramsey Ameen: violin
Sirone: bass
Ronald Shannon Jackson: drums

♥ 10:49am northguineahills:

... or basic....

🥁 ♥ 10:51am duke:

Raphe Malik is wailing pretty well on this also.

♥ 10:51am northguineahills:

I probably saw Raphe Malik nearly 3 dozen times, he was constantly playing all the time, a real trooper!( the only other musicians I've seen more often I count as my friends.)

♥ 10:52am Doug Schulkind:

Only Ramsey Ameen is still living from this sextet.

♥ 10:53am Doug Schulkind:

Raphe was prolific.

♥ 11:10am northguineahills:

Yep, I'm going to have to get up early and awake for Jeff come Sunday.

♥ 11:16am Goyim in the AM:

Sirone was not extremely prolific but came awfully close to batting 1.000 on his discography.

♥ 11:19am Doug Schulkind:

Sirone. Man, Sirone. What a player.

♥ 11:22am northguineahills:

sounds the Qualations are saying "gomen nasai" (sorry in Japanese)

♥ 11:25am Doug Schulkind:

The Qualitons are Hungarian!

♥ 11:28am Doug Schulkind:

Minor crisis in my house. We are out of seltzer. Oh the humanity!

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♥ 11:30am Uncle Michael:

sodastream, baby

♥ 11:32am Doug Schulkind:

@Uncle Michael
Can't go there:

(1) Pittsburgh water sucks.

(2) I drink too much. I would forever be shpritzing.

(3) Boycott.

♥ 11:34am Doug Schulkind:

Is everyone ready for the closing soul set? It's a rip-your-heart-out kind of soul set. Be ready.

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♥ 11:35am Uncle Michael:

I knew you'd be bringing up BDS when I suggested sodastream.

♥ 11:36am Little Danny:

Rip my heart out Doug!

♥ 11:37am Goyim in the AM:

I dig iSi. Works great, local (to me), and BDS-friendly.

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♥ 11:37am Uncle Michael:

iSi?

♥ 11:38am Doug Schulkind:

@Uncle Michael
Sorry I am so predictable!

@Little Danny
All my equipment is sterilized. So... we're good!

♥ 11:38am northguineahills:

NYC water is the best tap water I ever had. FL tap sucks (too much sulphur and/or chlorine).

♥ 11:39am northguineahills:

it's why I drink beer (j/k)

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♥ 11:40am Uncle Michael:

Our tap water in Topeka is quite good. The reverse-osmosis setup we have makes delicious water, whether still or prickled.

♥ 11:40am Goyim in the AM:

@UM: www.isi.com... . (Despite the lack of English, there stuff is available in the US.)

♥ 11:40am northguineahills:

I was hoping for a lobotomy myself, Dr Drummer Some!.

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♥ 11:41am Uncle Michael:

Thanks, Goyim.

♥ 11:41am northguineahills:

The only carbonated products I like are ginger or birch beer.

♥ 11:42am Goyim in the AM:

Aha, found the English website. It's organized with ruthless Austrian efficiency (i.e. poorly): www.isi.com...

♥ 11:43am annie:

the tapwater here in asheville has fluoride added, so i use RO water from the co-op.

♥ 11:43am Doug Schulkind:

Get in line, northguineahills!

🥁 ♥ 11:44am duke:

We used to have a sodastream. Got a tank of CO2 from a local beverage supply. Ran a hose and from the tank through the sodastream device. Lots of seltzer at lower cost. Helps to have good water too.

♥ 11:46am Little Danny:

The best tap water I've ever had has been out here in the desert. I guzzle it all day

🥁 ♥ 11:46am duke:

@Goyim Great image on that site.

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♥ 11:46am Uncle Michael:

iSi won't provide me with ice cold bottles of seltzer...alas.

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♥ 11:48am Parq:

Just joining. Hadn't heard about Cece. Wow. Gonna have to listen to the archive over the weekend.

♥ 11:49am Doug Schulkind:

@Parq
Once Hinky Dinky Time is over, you can tune over to WKCR. They are playing Cecil until midnight. Also, hello!

♥ 11:50am Doug Schulkind:

Everyone's favorite uncle, Uncle Michael, will be holding a fabulous listening party over here: wfmu.org...

Hinky Dinky Time, 1939 style, is next!

♥ 11:51am northguineahills:

What the hell is this 'sleep'?

♥ 11:52am Doug Schulkind:

It's an OTC mood enhancer, NGH.

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♥ 11:53am Parq:

Doug, cool, but I'd rather hear your take on it.

♥ 11:54am Little Danny:

Love the big production on this Irma

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♥ 11:54am Uncle Michael:

I hope to see many of you 79 years ago.

www.wfmu.org...

🥁 ♥ 11:55am βrian:

Our lunchtime hour draws on apace. Off in search of victuals.

♥ 11:55am Doug Schulkind:

You're a sucker for big production, Little Danny.

As for me? Guilty.

♥ 11:56am Doug Schulkind:

@Parq
It is my pleasure, Sir!

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♥ 11:57am Uncle Michael:

Thanks, Doug...see you all in a little bit.

11:57am still b/p:

Geezum, Danny, lucky! ...the water in Odessa was AWFUL...tasted terrible and if you let a glass sit a while, solids would precipitate and settle out. Water I drink now in this part of Maine is goooood, and recognized as such by folks from away and prize-givers.

♥ 11:58am Doug Schulkind:

I plan on tripping and skinning my knee down your memory lane, Uncle Michael!

♥ 11:59am northguineahills:

Thank you kindly, Douglas!

11:59am Ramblin' Ray:

Thanks again for the stupendous sounds Doug! Have a great weekend all.

🥁 ♥ 11:59am duke:

Thank you Doug. Wonderful show as always.

♥ 12:01pm Doug Schulkind:

NGH, RR, duke, everyone! Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!

Theme Music: Sarah Webster Fabio	Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues	Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues (Folkways 1971)
ECD	In Tempo	Major Force: The Original Art-Form (Mo' Wax 1990)

Johnnie & Jack & Their Tennessee Mountain Boys	What About You	b/w Pray Together and We’ll Stay Together (RCA Victor 1949)
Ernest Tubb	Letters Have No Arms	b/w I'll Take a Back Seat for You (Decca 1950)
Curley Williams	Half as Much	b/w Let's Turn Back the Years (MGM 1951)
Hank Williams	Take These Chains from My Heart	b/w Ramblin' Man (MGM 1952)
George Morgan	Almost	b/w Candy Kisses (Columbia 1952)
Webb Pierce With Wilburn Brothers	Sparkling Brown Eyes	b/w Even Tho (Decca 1954)
George Jones	Why Baby Why	b/w Seasons of My Heart (Starday 1955)
Wanda Jackson	Silver Threads and Golden Needles	b/w Hot Dog! That Made Him Mad (Capitol 1956)

Cecil Taylor Quartet	Nona's Blues	At Newport (Verve 1957)
Cecil Taylor	I Love Paris	Love for Sale (United Artists 1959)
Cecil Taylor	Steps	Unit Structures (Blue Note 1966)
Mary Lou Williams & Cecil Taylor	Chorus Sud	Embraced (Pablo 1977)

Cecil Taylor Jazz Unit	What's New	Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come (Debut 1962)
Cecil Taylor	Spring of Two Blue-J's (pt. 1)	Spring of Two Blue-J's (Unit Core 1973)
Cecil Taylor	The Eel Pot	Live in the Black Forest (MPS 1979)

Dieuf-Dieul De Thiès	Aling Na Djimbe	Aw Sa Yone Vol. 1 (Teranga Beat 1980)
Baffour Kyei & the Great Africans	So Memeu Yie	Odo Mpa So (Observer 1985)
Foundars 15	Ekele	Fire Woman (EMI 1977)
Effi Duke & the Love Family	Mr. Love	Mr. Love (Homzy 1980)

	April 6, 2018 Cecil, the beautiful one has gone
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Fontella Bass	Impossible	The "New" Look (Checker 1965)
Ella Brown	I Love You Baby	b/w Frankie and Johnnie (Adams 1967)
Doris Duke	I Wish I Could Sleep	A Legend in Her Own Time (Mankind 1971)
Barbara & the Browns	Play Thing	Can't Be Satisfied: The XL and Sounds of Memphis Story (Ace 1967)
Irma Thomas	I'm Gonna Cry Till My Tears Run Dry	b/w Nobody Wants to Hear Nobody's Troubles (Imperial 1965)
Jackie Day	Guilty	b/w I Can't Wait (Paula 1970)

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