WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from April 8, 2018

Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 8:59am listener james from westwood: Hey hey, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am Uncle Michael: good morning
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @listener james and @Uncle Michael!
	🦀 ♥ 9:02am fred: Godd morning Jeff and all
	9:02am Scraps {~{~§~}~}: b’roo
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Hello, @fred, and goo day, @Scraps!
	9:03am Mark R: Hey, I'm here live for a change! Hi everybody!
	♥ 9:04am Jeff Golick: Whoo! @Mark R!
	🦀 ♥ 9:07am fred: How could there be enough Cecil Taylor, let alone too much?
	♥ 9:11am Jeff Golick: Amen to that, @fred.
	🦀 ♥ 9:12am Brian in UK: Hello Jeff. Listening whilst packing boxes.
	9:12am Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥: though Marilyn Crispell, who likes Taylor and everybody says is like Taylor, hadn’t heard Taylor when she started, when she was like Taylor from the start.
	🦀 ♥ 9:13am Brian in UK: Is this what some might call classical music?
	9:16am Stepchild: Beautiful morning here in NJ, beautiful music in this ether. Nice to start with solo Cecil.
	9:16am Mark R: For some excellent articles on Mr. Taylor, might I direct you to WFMU's own Kurt Gottschalk, who wrote several articles about him for various publications, and even interviewed him at least once. Google Kurt Gottschalk Cecil Taylor for some very fine writing to accompany this very, very fine music.
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: Hallo, @Brian. Packing? Spring cleaning, or moving? @Scraps: yes, Crispell can sound Taylor-like, though I wasn't really aware that she hadn't heard CT before her start @Stepchild: thanks for being here in the ether!
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am fred: @Scraps: does she have his temper? I only got to see Cecil Taylor once, he was supposed to play with Amiri Baraka, but they had an... argument so they performed separately. Both were fiery characters, and now they're both gone
	9:21am Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥: She didn’t have a jazz education. I’m trying to look up Spirit Music, when Crispell was interviewed by Bob Rusch, where I got that information
	♥ 9:24am Jeff Golick: This Bomb magazine piece on CT by César Aira is also great reading: bombmagazine.org...
	9:24am Mark R: I sometimes think solo Cecil is the best way to hear him. How did other musicians ever keep up with him?
	🦀 ♥ 9:24am fred: When I told about Cecil's death to a coworker who's a Jazz pianist, he was basically "good riddance". He hates free jazz, obviously
	9:25am Stepchild: My first time seeing Cecil perform was in Atlanta must have been mid-80s. Solo. I knew only Nefertiti, The Beautiful One — slightly. I was unprepared. Devastating.
	9:26am Doug Schulkind: Still trying (refusing) to process the loss of Mr. Taylor. He taught us how the love.
	🦀 ♥ 9:26am Brian in UK: Jeff, moving after nearly twenty three years. Off to the Shropshire countryside.
	9:26am Doug Schulkind: ...how to love.
	🦀 ♥ 9:27am Brian in UK: Hello Doug, cutting out the typo middle man now!
	9:27am Stepchild: @Mark Do you know his Feel Trio material w Oxley and Parker? They kept up alright!!
	♥ 9:29am Jeff Golick: Jimmy Lyons, too.
	♥ 9:29am Jeff Golick: @Doug: I'm with you, man.
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Ah, @Brian, best of luck with the move. We too are moving, after twenty years in the same apt. Not sure which neighborhood will have us yet.
	♥ 9:31am Jeff Golick: Gary Giddins is also very good on Cecil, if you're looking for more to read.
	9:32am Doug Schulkind: The organist for Fenway Park in Boston played Cecil Taylor’s “Rick Kick Shaw” during the first inning of the Red Sox game. The song is on Cecil’s Jazz Advance album, which was recorded in Boston.
	🦀 ♥ 9:32am hyde: hello!
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: That is amazing, @Doug! He has done that sort of thing before, no? What is his name?
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @hyde!
	9:34am Stepchild: That is the stuff there Doug if folk are not yet able to wrap themselves around later Cecil.
	9:34am Doug Schulkind: OK, back to work. Wish I could stay here and wallow with you. Big hugs, Jeff.
	9:34am Stepchild: And even if they are!
	♥ 9:34am Jeff Golick: A note: Sam Rivers once said that about 80 percent of Cecil's work is composed.
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am Uncle Michael: The Fenway organist being the esteemed Josh Kantor...the coolest in baseball...and member of The baseball Project...who incidentally, called into the Goddamed Dve Hill Program three times last Monday.
	9:35am Doug Schulkind: His name is Josh Kantor.
	♥ 9:35am Jeff Golick: Bye, @Doug! Peace be with you.
	9:35am Stepchild: I don’t believe Sam on that
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: I think it entails a wider understanding of "composed," something beyond "notated music."
	9:39am Stepchild: Cecil spoke and wrote of improvisation and life in the instant moment. Notes and gestures certainly came from there. Structures another thing definitely.
	♥ 9:41am Jeff Golick: This Willisau concert, btw, is available at bandcamp: ceciltaylor.bandcamp.com...
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am Uncle Michael: I must go, too. I'll be with you all in spirit, if not in the moment. Thanks, Jeff.
	9:42am Stepchild: As a notable quote it gets into an untenable opposition between composition and improvisation. But it also makes sense to say it because of the impression/assertion of many that Cecil was just doing random flailing of an unstructured kind -including fellow musicians cough Miles
	♥ 9:42am Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @UM. See you 'round these parts soon.
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: An excellent point, @Stepchild.
	9:45am Doctorjazz: Hi folks... Taylor music much appreciated.
	9:47am Listener Robert: I find myself wanting to "join the conversation" this piano is having, and to laugh at the jokes -- if only I could figure out what the "people" in it were saying!
	♥ 9:47am Jeff Golick: Welcome, @Doctorjazz!
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Listener Robert! I'm with you -- I find myself laughing now and again, despite not knowing what, exactly, is being said.
	9:49am Stepchild: Try dancing instead of conversation as metaphor. Seriously.
	♥ 9:51am Jeff Golick: See also: www.instagram.com...
	9:52am Listener Robert: I guess if I were a dancer rather than a talker, I might think of it that way. But as far as foot movement is concerned, it sounds more like sidewalk traffic than dancing. Or maybe sidewalk + street -- like for instance, just there some heavy trucks rumbled thru.
	9:52am Stepchild: Yess
	9:54am Listener Robert: Dancing is more rhythmic and repetitive in one place. This, by contrast, is "going somewhere".
	9:54am Stepchild: Step into that head traffic I’m no dancer either but shaking it here anyway
	9:54am Mark R: Jeff, that Bomb magazine article was fantastic. Thanks for posting the link. And of course, for this fantastic concert. Wow!
	♥ 9:54am Jeff Golick: I believe that dance footage from Jason Moran's instagram is from this documentary: vimeo.com...
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: Glad you enjoyed, @Mark R. I think a listener posted that Bomb link on Friday...can't recall who, though.
	9:56am Scraps (((§))): Do you know (everybody) Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji? Thinking of pianists that sound “free” but are not....
	♥ 9:56am Jeff Golick: Tidbit: the first producer to work with Cecil Taylor? Tom Wilson.
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: That name is new to me, @Scraps.
	10:01am Scraps (((§))): Oh, you would like him! Or at least, you should try him. The “famous” one is Opus clavicembalisticum.
	10:03am Scraps (((§))): The composer banned public showing for years because nobody could play it with the composer’s satisfaction.
	10:05am Scraps (((§))): (There are two multi-CDs now.)
	10:05am Scraps (((§))): (At least.)
	10:08am Doctorjazz: I think it was Gary Giddens who described Taylor's playing as his 10 fingers acted like 10 drummers on the piano. The dance talk reminded me of that.
	10:09am Mark R: I can't imagine any other show in the world that would play an entire concert like this. Thank you so much, Jeff! This is the best Cecil Taylor tribute I could ever imagine. I only have his "Unit Structures" album, his part of the "Jazz Composers Orchestra" album and the three songs he contributed to Gil Evans' "Into the Hot" album, so this solo concert has been an absolute revelation. Thanks so much for sharing this with us this morning. And yes, it is indeed an absolutely gorgeous sunny morning in NJ (and I assume most of the northeast). Made only more beautiful by the fantastic music you've chosen for us today.
	10:14am Doctorjazz: http://jerryjazzmusician.com/2003/03/conversations-with-gary-giddins-on-pianist-cecil-taylor/ Didn't read the whole thing (though I read lots Giddens wrote about Taylor, including his books), but an interesting interview with him about CT.
	♥ 10:15am Jeff Golick: @doc: I think it was author Val Wilmer who described Taylor turning the piano into "88 tuned drums," in As Serious As Your Life.
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: @Mark R: oh my! Just grateful for the chance to share it all. Thanks, man.
	♥ 10:21am alanr: Thank you, Jeff. It means a lot to me to be able to have access through streaming to listen to all these tributes here and on other radio stations, while in Mexico City, my second life. And to read the comments here from our special CT community. Again, thank you for your work on WFMU (and elsewhere).Never enough Cecil.
	10:21am Stepchild: Encore encore encore
	10:21am Doctorjazz: Could be, Jeff, it stuck with me. I don't think I read him, maybe someone else I read quoted him...
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am listener james from westwood: Nicely done!!
	10:26am Scraps (((§))): My favorite!! Yay!
	10:27am Stepchild: Conversation time
	♥ 10:30am Jeff Golick: @alanr: thanks to you for being here, and chiming in to the conversation.
	10:37am Dean: Played just this track, no. 1 of OTMSS&NG, a couple days ago, Trance with Sonny Murray & Jimmy Lyons yesterday. Still more to revisit. @Scraps @9:56: I do indeed know Sorabji. I have John Ogdon's Opus Clavicembalisticum and assorted other recitals. Many years ago I asked Matthew Shipp if he knew Sorabji's music. At the time he didn't, and I've been meaning ever since to send him OC. Haven't done so.
	♥ 10:37am northguineahills: emerges from the muck I'm here to get pounded by 88 tonal drums!
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: Ok, so I didn't plan this out very well time-wise, and in order to include this entire performance by the CT Unit, this show will be going about 30 minutes over. The archive will not be able to hold it all (suitably enough).
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: @Dean! @northguineahills!
	♥ 10:40am Jeff Golick: The momentum of this music.
	🦀 ♥ 10:45am doctorjazz: Interesting to hear Jackson...I can hear bits of the way his music was put together later in his playing here.
	♥ 10:48am northguineahills: Oh the humanity, we have to suffer through an extra 30 mins of Cecil!
	10:51am Listener Robert: That's OK, as long as it finishes in time for Jonesy's & Burnsy's 1st mic break.
	10:53am Mark R: I just figured out that he was 71 years old when he played that Willisau concert. I can't imagine having that kind of energy, to play that ferociously for that long, at 71.
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: Yeah, it's astonishing, really.
	♥ 10:57am alanr: He was quite strong when he played at the Whitney in 2016, the last time many of us saw him.
	🦀 ♥ 10:58am hyde: this is killer stuff
	♥ 11:01am Jeff Golick: @alanr: Yes. He seemed rather frail, physically, as he walked with helpers to the stage. But once he hit the piano...BOOM.
	♥ 11:02am Jeff Golick: I like that I'm able to play these long concerts -- the overwhelming totality of it is very much part of the Cecil Taylor experience (imo).
	11:04am Stepchild: You did the right thing, man
	♥ 11:17am Jeff Golick: I like this line, from the Willisau concert liner notes, quoting a music journalist: «There is no Taylor style. There is only Cecil Taylor.»
	11:26am Dean: The OTMSS&NG liner notes report that officials denied Taylor a proper grand piano for this concert, because it was reserved for "classical pianists."
	11:27am Stepchild: Taste the ebony flavor resin’d ivory hued mechanics
	11:27am Dean: On In the Brewing Luminous he plays a whoop-ass Bosendorfer.
	11:27am Dean: ^It Is In the Brewing Luminous
	11:28am Stepchild: Cecil, from his notes/poem to Garden
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am fred: I'm glad this show is going overtime, as my sister just called me to wish me a happy birthday and we talked for about as long as we did in the past ten years put together
	11:30am rw: Morning all. Sad to lose another great but nice to celebrate with all this music. Happy Birthday fred!
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: @fred: bon anniversaire!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:33am fred: I guess Scott McDowell might do a tribute as well. With Cecil Taylor there's no lack of materiel
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: @rw: good morning to you.
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: Yes, @fred, I suspect he will!
	♥ 11:38am Jeff Golick: "materiel" instead of "material" is a pretty apt switch-up.
	11:39am Scraps (((§))): boom!
	🦀 ♥ 11:39am fred: I got an early birthday gift yesterday: seeing Byambajargal Gombodorj and getiing her to sign a tourist office CD of hers I somehow got years ago. And having a Mongolian musician recognize me instead of the other way around (I was one of about five people at one of her shows, but that was six years ago). She has my email now, I hope I'll hear about any coming shows
	♥ 11:40am Jeff Golick: That is very sweet, @fred.
	11:43am JtotheK: Been tuned in - thanks for the Taylor tunes, Jeff. Hi everyone.
	11:43am Dean: This has to "4" by now...
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: Hello, @JtotheK!
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: @Dean: my digital version is cut into 5 pieces, which do not correspond exactly to the original six sides.
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: (It's the 2004 CD re-release from hat: www.discogs.com...)
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am fred: I'm so socially inept it isn't the first time it happened to me. The drummer from Schwervon did it twice. I'm small so I usually stay in the back and don't see who's playing (that's my excuse). Mission of Burma also once stopped me in a Paris street because I was wearing a Terre T T-shirt
	11:55am rw: Five? I'd have guessed only three: One Too Many, Salty Swift and Not Goodbye. But I don't really know anything that would just have been my guess. fred, if you're small you should be in front!
	♥ 11:55am Jeff Golick: JIMMY LYONS
	11:57am Dean: Funny, my hat Jazz Series CDs from 1991 list six tracks on the second disk in addition to the two featuring the Unit on the first disk.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am fred: @rw: Small and in front will get you beaten to a pulp. No thanks
	11:59am Dean: https://www.discogs.com/Cecil-Taylor-One-Too-Many-Salty-Swift-And-Not-Goodbye/release/2689007
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: @Dean: yeah, hat has sliced and diced this in different ways: www.discogs.com...
	11:59am rw: Ha! Yeah, I thought about that afterward. The back is good.
	12:00pm Dean: Yup.
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: It is essentially one giant slab of sound, though.
	12:01pm Listener Robert: How does the WFMU archiving know to stop here?
	12:01pm Dean: I have my butcher remove the fat and tendons before I play it.
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: @Listener Robert: there's simply an outer limit to the size of any archived show, set at a little over three hours. I am taping the entire program, but once uploaded, only the first 3:08 (or so) will be accessible.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm fred: @rw: Strangely enough, it got me into the inner circle of one Lightning Bolt show, which was a great experience
	♥ 12:07pm Jeff Golick: You prematurely applaud Cecil at your peril.
	12:07pm rw: 3 LP set seems cooler but in cases like this a CD seems like the way to go. Best to leave the slab intact. fred, Nice! The inner circle of a Lightning Bold show is (sadly) something I'll never experience!
	🦀 ♥ 12:08pm fred: @Jeff G: that also explains why Ridgewood Radio sometimes has extra content on the archives
	12:09pm rw: Jeff, Yeah, what was that? I didn't notice anything indicating an end.
	12:09pm Dean: The CDs include material not on the LPs, opening duets and a solo.
	🦀 ♥ 12:10pm fred: @rw: you didn't miss much, it's a lot of fun but adds nothing to the music
	♥ 12:10pm Jeff Golick: @rw: Would be a different listening experience, having to flip over the records, for sure. I think it just quieted down for a sec, and folks got jumpy.
	12:10pm Dean: A very limited CD edition includes still more, the encore consisting of a medley of Billy Joel tunes.
	♥ 12:11pm Jeff Golick: This is actually that, @Dean. Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.
	🦀 ♥ 12:16pm fred: @Dean: that could have come in handy at the show I was yesterday. They clearly wanted to play more, the venue dimmed the lights on stage, after a while then cut them out. Nothing like Billy Joel to drive people out, they should have thought of this
	12:17pm Dean: This illustrates why nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert.
	12:20pm rw: Jeff, this is awesome. Thanks for playing it all the way through and putting in the overtime. Really enjoying it.
	♥ 12:21pm Jeff Golick: Happy to, @rw. And also sad to. Glad you're here for it.
	12:22pm Dean: Worth recalling that you have played tributes to Cecil Taylor, among others, to celebrate their lives before their passing.
	12:26pm rw: This seems like the beginning of track 3 to me.
	12:27pm rw: The Not Goodbye part.
	🦀 ♥ 12:27pm doctorjazz: Yup, just did the CT birthday tribute a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the great Taylor tribute, Jeff. A good week to all!
	🦀 ♥ 12:27pm doctorjazz: (I wouldn't mind catching a Billy Joel concert-not willing to break the bank for tix, though)
	🦀 ♥ 12:28pm fred: Scott played Cecil Taylor in part because he didn't want to wait for a tribute to do so. Maybe he'll play someone else. I'm sure his choice will be sound
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm fred: @Dean: "nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert" marks you as a candidate for Yogi Berra reincarnation seats
	12:33pm rw: Applause!
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm hyde: amazing. thank you!
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm listener james from westwood: Fuckin' majestic tribute, Jeff. Many thanks for letting him run long.
	12:36pm Listener Robert: Thanks for the explanation, JG. I just don't know how the digital recording works. Is file size related closely to actual duration? I'd've thought there'd be a large variation due to data compression.
	🦀 ♥ 12:36pm hyde: don't forget Sonny Rollins, also still around!
	12:36pm Dean: Yes! Great show.
	♥ 12:37pm Jeff Golick: Sonny! Yes, thanks, @hyde. Still here (though sadly not able to play any more).
	♥ 12:39pm Jeff Golick: Bye for now, @hyde! @listener james! @Listener Robert! @Dean! @fred! @rw! @doctorjazz! And all!
	♥ 5:53pm Jeff Golick: Hi again. In case anyone is reading along, I misspoke earlier re the archived version of this show: it's the full show. (The 3-hr. limit is only in effect when the WFMU system is doing the recording; "home taping" allows for longer archives.)

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April 8, 2018: All(ways) Cecil Taylor.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:03:35 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Pt. 1 "Pt. 1" by "Cecil Taylor"	The Willisau Concert	Intakt Records	2000	0:11:25 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Pt. 2 "Pt. 2" by "Cecil Taylor"	The Willisau Concert	Intakt Records	2000	1:01:25 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Pt. 3 "Pt. 3" by "Cecil Taylor"	The Willisau Concert	Intakt Records	2000	1:15:16 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Pt. 4 "Pt. 4" by "Cecil Taylor"	The Willisau Concert	Intakt Records	2000	1:17:23 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Pt. 5 "Pt. 5" by "Cecil Taylor"	The Willisau Concert	Intakt Records	2000	1:19:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & the MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & the MGs"				1:21:27 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	1 "1" by "Cecil Taylor Unit"	One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye	hat Hut	1978	1:27:34 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	2 "2" by "Cecil Taylor Unit"	One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye	hat Hut	1978	1:50:39 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	3 "3" by "Cecil Taylor Unit"	One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye	hat Hut	1978	2:18:06 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	4 "4" by "Cecil Taylor Unit"	One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye	hat Hut	1978	2:47:07 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	5 "5" by "Cecil Taylor Unit"	One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye	hat Hut	1978	3:05:03 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975	3:33:27 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 8:59am listener james from westwood: Hey hey, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am Uncle Michael: good morning
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @listener james and @Uncle Michael!
	🦀 ♥ 9:02am fred: Godd morning Jeff and all
	9:02am Scraps {~{~§~}~}: b’roo
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Hello, @fred, and goo day, @Scraps!
	9:03am Mark R: Hey, I'm here live for a change! Hi everybody!
	♥ 9:04am Jeff Golick: Whoo! @Mark R!
	🦀 ♥ 9:07am fred: How could there be enough Cecil Taylor, let alone too much?
	♥ 9:11am Jeff Golick: Amen to that, @fred.
	🦀 ♥ 9:12am Brian in UK: Hello Jeff. Listening whilst packing boxes.
	9:12am Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥: though Marilyn Crispell, who likes Taylor and everybody says is like Taylor, hadn’t heard Taylor when she started, when she was like Taylor from the start.
	🦀 ♥ 9:13am Brian in UK: Is this what some might call classical music?
	9:16am Stepchild: Beautiful morning here in NJ, beautiful music in this ether. Nice to start with solo Cecil.
	9:16am Mark R: For some excellent articles on Mr. Taylor, might I direct you to WFMU's own Kurt Gottschalk, who wrote several articles about him for various publications, and even interviewed him at least once. Google Kurt Gottschalk Cecil Taylor for some very fine writing to accompany this very, very fine music.
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: Hallo, @Brian. Packing? Spring cleaning, or moving? @Scraps: yes, Crispell can sound Taylor-like, though I wasn't really aware that she hadn't heard CT before her start @Stepchild: thanks for being here in the ether!
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am fred: @Scraps: does she have his temper? I only got to see Cecil Taylor once, he was supposed to play with Amiri Baraka, but they had an... argument so they performed separately. Both were fiery characters, and now they're both gone
	9:21am Scraps ¥§¥¥§¥: She didn’t have a jazz education. I’m trying to look up Spirit Music, when Crispell was interviewed by Bob Rusch, where I got that information
	♥ 9:24am Jeff Golick: This Bomb magazine piece on CT by César Aira is also great reading: bombmagazine.org...
	9:24am Mark R: I sometimes think solo Cecil is the best way to hear him. How did other musicians ever keep up with him?
	🦀 ♥ 9:24am fred: When I told about Cecil's death to a coworker who's a Jazz pianist, he was basically "good riddance". He hates free jazz, obviously
	9:25am Stepchild: My first time seeing Cecil perform was in Atlanta must have been mid-80s. Solo. I knew only Nefertiti, The Beautiful One — slightly. I was unprepared. Devastating.
	9:26am Doug Schulkind: Still trying (refusing) to process the loss of Mr. Taylor. He taught us how the love.
	🦀 ♥ 9:26am Brian in UK: Jeff, moving after nearly twenty three years. Off to the Shropshire countryside.
	9:26am Doug Schulkind: ...how to love.
	🦀 ♥ 9:27am Brian in UK: Hello Doug, cutting out the typo middle man now!
	9:27am Stepchild: @Mark Do you know his Feel Trio material w Oxley and Parker? They kept up alright!!
	♥ 9:29am Jeff Golick: Jimmy Lyons, too.
	♥ 9:29am Jeff Golick: @Doug: I'm with you, man.
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Ah, @Brian, best of luck with the move. We too are moving, after twenty years in the same apt. Not sure which neighborhood will have us yet.
	♥ 9:31am Jeff Golick: Gary Giddins is also very good on Cecil, if you're looking for more to read.
	9:32am Doug Schulkind: The organist for Fenway Park in Boston played Cecil Taylor’s “Rick Kick Shaw” during the first inning of the Red Sox game. The song is on Cecil’s Jazz Advance album, which was recorded in Boston.
	🦀 ♥ 9:32am hyde: hello!
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: That is amazing, @Doug! He has done that sort of thing before, no? What is his name?
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @hyde!
	9:34am Stepchild: That is the stuff there Doug if folk are not yet able to wrap themselves around later Cecil.
	9:34am Doug Schulkind: OK, back to work. Wish I could stay here and wallow with you. Big hugs, Jeff.
	9:34am Stepchild: And even if they are!
	♥ 9:34am Jeff Golick: A note: Sam Rivers once said that about 80 percent of Cecil's work is composed.
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am Uncle Michael: The Fenway organist being the esteemed Josh Kantor...the coolest in baseball...and member of The baseball Project...who incidentally, called into the Goddamed Dve Hill Program three times last Monday.
	9:35am Doug Schulkind: His name is Josh Kantor.
	♥ 9:35am Jeff Golick: Bye, @Doug! Peace be with you.
	9:35am Stepchild: I don’t believe Sam on that
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: I think it entails a wider understanding of "composed," something beyond "notated music."
	9:39am Stepchild: Cecil spoke and wrote of improvisation and life in the instant moment. Notes and gestures certainly came from there. Structures another thing definitely.
	♥ 9:41am Jeff Golick: This Willisau concert, btw, is available at bandcamp: ceciltaylor.bandcamp.com...
	🦀 ♥ 9:41am Uncle Michael: I must go, too. I'll be with you all in spirit, if not in the moment. Thanks, Jeff.
	9:42am Stepchild: As a notable quote it gets into an untenable opposition between composition and improvisation. But it also makes sense to say it because of the impression/assertion of many that Cecil was just doing random flailing of an unstructured kind -including fellow musicians cough Miles
	♥ 9:42am Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @UM. See you 'round these parts soon.
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: An excellent point, @Stepchild.
	9:45am Doctorjazz: Hi folks... Taylor music much appreciated.
	9:47am Listener Robert: I find myself wanting to "join the conversation" this piano is having, and to laugh at the jokes -- if only I could figure out what the "people" in it were saying!
	♥ 9:47am Jeff Golick: Welcome, @Doctorjazz!
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Listener Robert! I'm with you -- I find myself laughing now and again, despite not knowing what, exactly, is being said.
	9:49am Stepchild: Try dancing instead of conversation as metaphor. Seriously.
	♥ 9:51am Jeff Golick: See also: www.instagram.com...
	9:52am Listener Robert: I guess if I were a dancer rather than a talker, I might think of it that way. But as far as foot movement is concerned, it sounds more like sidewalk traffic than dancing. Or maybe sidewalk + street -- like for instance, just there some heavy trucks rumbled thru.
	9:52am Stepchild: Yess
	9:54am Listener Robert: Dancing is more rhythmic and repetitive in one place. This, by contrast, is "going somewhere".
	9:54am Stepchild: Step into that head traffic I’m no dancer either but shaking it here anyway
	9:54am Mark R: Jeff, that Bomb magazine article was fantastic. Thanks for posting the link. And of course, for this fantastic concert. Wow!
	♥ 9:54am Jeff Golick: I believe that dance footage from Jason Moran's instagram is from this documentary: vimeo.com...
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: Glad you enjoyed, @Mark R. I think a listener posted that Bomb link on Friday...can't recall who, though.
	9:56am Scraps (((§))): Do you know (everybody) Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji? Thinking of pianists that sound “free” but are not....
	♥ 9:56am Jeff Golick: Tidbit: the first producer to work with Cecil Taylor? Tom Wilson.
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: That name is new to me, @Scraps.
	10:01am Scraps (((§))): Oh, you would like him! Or at least, you should try him. The “famous” one is Opus clavicembalisticum.
	10:03am Scraps (((§))): The composer banned public showing for years because nobody could play it with the composer’s satisfaction.
	10:05am Scraps (((§))): (There are two multi-CDs now.)
	10:05am Scraps (((§))): (At least.)
	10:08am Doctorjazz: I think it was Gary Giddens who described Taylor's playing as his 10 fingers acted like 10 drummers on the piano. The dance talk reminded me of that.
	10:09am Mark R: I can't imagine any other show in the world that would play an entire concert like this. Thank you so much, Jeff! This is the best Cecil Taylor tribute I could ever imagine. I only have his "Unit Structures" album, his part of the "Jazz Composers Orchestra" album and the three songs he contributed to Gil Evans' "Into the Hot" album, so this solo concert has been an absolute revelation. Thanks so much for sharing this with us this morning. And yes, it is indeed an absolutely gorgeous sunny morning in NJ (and I assume most of the northeast). Made only more beautiful by the fantastic music you've chosen for us today.
	10:14am Doctorjazz: http://jerryjazzmusician.com/2003/03/conversations-with-gary-giddins-on-pianist-cecil-taylor/ Didn't read the whole thing (though I read lots Giddens wrote about Taylor, including his books), but an interesting interview with him about CT.
	♥ 10:15am Jeff Golick: @doc: I think it was author Val Wilmer who described Taylor turning the piano into "88 tuned drums," in As Serious As Your Life.
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: @Mark R: oh my! Just grateful for the chance to share it all. Thanks, man.
	♥ 10:21am alanr: Thank you, Jeff. It means a lot to me to be able to have access through streaming to listen to all these tributes here and on other radio stations, while in Mexico City, my second life. And to read the comments here from our special CT community. Again, thank you for your work on WFMU (and elsewhere).Never enough Cecil.
	10:21am Stepchild: Encore encore encore
	10:21am Doctorjazz: Could be, Jeff, it stuck with me. I don't think I read him, maybe someone else I read quoted him...
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am listener james from westwood: Nicely done!!
	10:26am Scraps (((§))): My favorite!! Yay!
	10:27am Stepchild: Conversation time
	♥ 10:30am Jeff Golick: @alanr: thanks to you for being here, and chiming in to the conversation.
	10:37am Dean: Played just this track, no. 1 of OTMSS&NG, a couple days ago, Trance with Sonny Murray & Jimmy Lyons yesterday. Still more to revisit. @Scraps @9:56: I do indeed know Sorabji. I have John Ogdon's Opus Clavicembalisticum and assorted other recitals. Many years ago I asked Matthew Shipp if he knew Sorabji's music. At the time he didn't, and I've been meaning ever since to send him OC. Haven't done so.
	♥ 10:37am northguineahills: emerges from the muck I'm here to get pounded by 88 tonal drums!
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: Ok, so I didn't plan this out very well time-wise, and in order to include this entire performance by the CT Unit, this show will be going about 30 minutes over. The archive will not be able to hold it all (suitably enough).
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: @Dean! @northguineahills!
	♥ 10:40am Jeff Golick: The momentum of this music.
	🦀 ♥ 10:45am doctorjazz: Interesting to hear Jackson...I can hear bits of the way his music was put together later in his playing here.
	♥ 10:48am northguineahills: Oh the humanity, we have to suffer through an extra 30 mins of Cecil!
	10:51am Listener Robert: That's OK, as long as it finishes in time for Jonesy's & Burnsy's 1st mic break.
	10:53am Mark R: I just figured out that he was 71 years old when he played that Willisau concert. I can't imagine having that kind of energy, to play that ferociously for that long, at 71.
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: Yeah, it's astonishing, really.
	♥ 10:57am alanr: He was quite strong when he played at the Whitney in 2016, the last time many of us saw him.
	🦀 ♥ 10:58am hyde: this is killer stuff
	♥ 11:01am Jeff Golick: @alanr: Yes. He seemed rather frail, physically, as he walked with helpers to the stage. But once he hit the piano...BOOM.
	♥ 11:02am Jeff Golick: I like that I'm able to play these long concerts -- the overwhelming totality of it is very much part of the Cecil Taylor experience (imo).
	11:04am Stepchild: You did the right thing, man
	♥ 11:17am Jeff Golick: I like this line, from the Willisau concert liner notes, quoting a music journalist: «There is no Taylor style. There is only Cecil Taylor.»
	11:26am Dean: The OTMSS&NG liner notes report that officials denied Taylor a proper grand piano for this concert, because it was reserved for "classical pianists."
	11:27am Stepchild: Taste the ebony flavor resin’d ivory hued mechanics
	11:27am Dean: On In the Brewing Luminous he plays a whoop-ass Bosendorfer.
	11:27am Dean: ^It Is In the Brewing Luminous
	11:28am Stepchild: Cecil, from his notes/poem to Garden
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am fred: I'm glad this show is going overtime, as my sister just called me to wish me a happy birthday and we talked for about as long as we did in the past ten years put together
	11:30am rw: Morning all. Sad to lose another great but nice to celebrate with all this music. Happy Birthday fred!
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: @fred: bon anniversaire!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:33am fred: I guess Scott McDowell might do a tribute as well. With Cecil Taylor there's no lack of materiel
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: @rw: good morning to you.
	♥ 11:33am Jeff Golick: Yes, @fred, I suspect he will!
	♥ 11:38am Jeff Golick: "materiel" instead of "material" is a pretty apt switch-up.
	11:39am Scraps (((§))): boom!
	🦀 ♥ 11:39am fred: I got an early birthday gift yesterday: seeing Byambajargal Gombodorj and getiing her to sign a tourist office CD of hers I somehow got years ago. And having a Mongolian musician recognize me instead of the other way around (I was one of about five people at one of her shows, but that was six years ago). She has my email now, I hope I'll hear about any coming shows
	♥ 11:40am Jeff Golick: That is very sweet, @fred.
	11:43am JtotheK: Been tuned in - thanks for the Taylor tunes, Jeff. Hi everyone.
	11:43am Dean: This has to "4" by now...
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: Hello, @JtotheK!
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: @Dean: my digital version is cut into 5 pieces, which do not correspond exactly to the original six sides.
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: (It's the 2004 CD re-release from hat: www.discogs.com...)
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am fred: I'm so socially inept it isn't the first time it happened to me. The drummer from Schwervon did it twice. I'm small so I usually stay in the back and don't see who's playing (that's my excuse). Mission of Burma also once stopped me in a Paris street because I was wearing a Terre T T-shirt
	11:55am rw: Five? I'd have guessed only three: One Too Many, Salty Swift and Not Goodbye. But I don't really know anything that would just have been my guess. fred, if you're small you should be in front!
	♥ 11:55am Jeff Golick: JIMMY LYONS
	11:57am Dean: Funny, my hat Jazz Series CDs from 1991 list six tracks on the second disk in addition to the two featuring the Unit on the first disk.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am fred: @rw: Small and in front will get you beaten to a pulp. No thanks
	11:59am Dean: https://www.discogs.com/Cecil-Taylor-One-Too-Many-Salty-Swift-And-Not-Goodbye/release/2689007
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: @Dean: yeah, hat has sliced and diced this in different ways: www.discogs.com...
	11:59am rw: Ha! Yeah, I thought about that afterward. The back is good.
	12:00pm Dean: Yup.
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: It is essentially one giant slab of sound, though.
	12:01pm Listener Robert: How does the WFMU archiving know to stop here?
	12:01pm Dean: I have my butcher remove the fat and tendons before I play it.
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: @Listener Robert: there's simply an outer limit to the size of any archived show, set at a little over three hours. I am taping the entire program, but once uploaded, only the first 3:08 (or so) will be accessible.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm fred: @rw: Strangely enough, it got me into the inner circle of one Lightning Bolt show, which was a great experience
	♥ 12:07pm Jeff Golick: You prematurely applaud Cecil at your peril.
	12:07pm rw: 3 LP set seems cooler but in cases like this a CD seems like the way to go. Best to leave the slab intact. fred, Nice! The inner circle of a Lightning Bold show is (sadly) something I'll never experience!
	🦀 ♥ 12:08pm fred: @Jeff G: that also explains why Ridgewood Radio sometimes has extra content on the archives
	12:09pm rw: Jeff, Yeah, what was that? I didn't notice anything indicating an end.
	12:09pm Dean: The CDs include material not on the LPs, opening duets and a solo.
	🦀 ♥ 12:10pm fred: @rw: you didn't miss much, it's a lot of fun but adds nothing to the music
	♥ 12:10pm Jeff Golick: @rw: Would be a different listening experience, having to flip over the records, for sure. I think it just quieted down for a sec, and folks got jumpy.
	12:10pm Dean: A very limited CD edition includes still more, the encore consisting of a medley of Billy Joel tunes.
	♥ 12:11pm Jeff Golick: This is actually that, @Dean. Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.
	🦀 ♥ 12:16pm fred: @Dean: that could have come in handy at the show I was yesterday. They clearly wanted to play more, the venue dimmed the lights on stage, after a while then cut them out. Nothing like Billy Joel to drive people out, they should have thought of this
	12:17pm Dean: This illustrates why nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert.
	12:20pm rw: Jeff, this is awesome. Thanks for playing it all the way through and putting in the overtime. Really enjoying it.
	♥ 12:21pm Jeff Golick: Happy to, @rw. And also sad to. Glad you're here for it.
	12:22pm Dean: Worth recalling that you have played tributes to Cecil Taylor, among others, to celebrate their lives before their passing.
	12:26pm rw: This seems like the beginning of track 3 to me.
	12:27pm rw: The Not Goodbye part.
	🦀 ♥ 12:27pm doctorjazz: Yup, just did the CT birthday tribute a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the great Taylor tribute, Jeff. A good week to all!
	🦀 ♥ 12:27pm doctorjazz: (I wouldn't mind catching a Billy Joel concert-not willing to break the bank for tix, though)
	🦀 ♥ 12:28pm fred: Scott played Cecil Taylor in part because he didn't want to wait for a tribute to do so. Maybe he'll play someone else. I'm sure his choice will be sound
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm fred: @Dean: "nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert" marks you as a candidate for Yogi Berra reincarnation seats
	12:33pm rw: Applause!
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm hyde: amazing. thank you!
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm listener james from westwood: Fuckin' majestic tribute, Jeff. Many thanks for letting him run long.
	12:36pm Listener Robert: Thanks for the explanation, JG. I just don't know how the digital recording works. Is file size related closely to actual duration? I'd've thought there'd be a large variation due to data compression.
	🦀 ♥ 12:36pm hyde: don't forget Sonny Rollins, also still around!
	12:36pm Dean: Yes! Great show.
	♥ 12:37pm Jeff Golick: Sonny! Yes, thanks, @hyde. Still here (though sadly not able to play any more).
	♥ 12:39pm Jeff Golick: Bye for now, @hyde! @listener james! @Listener Robert! @Dean! @fred! @rw! @doctorjazz! And all!
	♥ 5:53pm Jeff Golick: Hi again. In case anyone is reading along, I misspoke earlier re the archived version of this show: it's the full show. (The 3-hr. limit is only in effect when the WFMU system is doing the recording; "home taping" allows for longer archives.)

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