WFMU: Frame Duggy Louder with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from August 30, 2019

Listener comments!
	♥ 2:01pm Rich in Washington: JAN!
	2:01pm Martinibomb: You're live! yay
	♥ 2:02pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Rich, Hi MB, hi everybody else! Welcome to the journey to the land of the Cananefates!
	2:08pm Linda Lee: my ignorance of the language pains me now. hello!
	♥ 2:10pm Jan Turkenburg: Ja means yes ;) Hi Linda! Vinkenoog was like the Dutch Ginsberg. I think they were friends even.
	2:11pm Linda Lee: ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! i was just about to say, i hear the same kind of refrain here as in Ginsberg's 'Howl' and "Kaddish'.
	♥ 2:11pm Jan Turkenburg: I'm just curious how a shower of Dutch language words will be percieved. I just can't imagine how it must be like to listen to this and not understanding. Fascinating.
	2:12pm Martinibomb: Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee!
	♥ 2:12pm Jan Turkenburg: LOL
	2:12pm Linda Lee: i hear music. pure sound. i can hear almost any language this way too, including English. listen for the pure sound.
	2:13pm Linda Lee: we don't dig behind notes for meaning. the notes speak as notes. same with words. :-)
	2:13pm Martinibomb: I'm one of those folks who never cared about lyrics so I kinda tend to listen to everything as music. But most people I know would focus on the words and be like I don't like this because I don't understand it.
	2:13pm Linda Lee: right. that's very limiting.
	♥ 2:15pm Rich in Washington: I have this remarkable ability to either not understand lyrics or interpret them totally wrong. I guess that's why I'm drawn to artists who embrace the tone-poem/James Joyce approach to lyrics-as-sounds.
	2:15pm Linda Lee: not that the choice of words isn't totally purposeful. you're supposed to listen for meaning! :-D
	2:15pm Martinibomb: music is essentially a language. It uses a similar part of the brain as language. I'm not sure if that means anything in this situation. That idea is always interesting to me for some reason when listening to foreign lyrics.
	2:17pm Linda Lee: still the true international language, music. ~ though there, too, you have people who are turned off to anything unfamiliar, even tonally.
	2:17pm Martinibomb: @Rich I just realized yesterday the main phrase to Mr. Misters kyrie is a latin. Took me long enough haha. I was listening to Pages their earlier band and ended up on Kyrie some how Lol
	2:17pm Linda Lee: they tend to be dim people.
	2:24pm Linda Lee: when was "pastorale" recorded, Jan? love it!
	♥ 2:26pm Jan Turkenburg: Pastorale is from 1968
	2:28pm Linda Lee: i guessed! :-) thanks!
	2:32pm Mr Fab: Well lyrics are often inconsequential. I think that's why I turnd to so much International and instrumental music. The lyrics may be just as dumb in foreign languages but they won't bother me. They sound kind of cool and exotic.
	♥ 2:37pm Jan Turkenburg: The strange female voice you hear is from vocal artist Greetje Bijma
	2:37pm Linda Lee: sure! i think listening to 'foreign' sounds is healthy. keeps the cobwebs out.
	2:38pm Linda Lee: Greetje sounds a bit like Nina Hagen.
	♥ 2:40pm Jan Turkenburg: I think you can easily make that comparison, though Greetje is more into jazz and experimental classical music
	2:40pm Linda Lee: i'd like hearing more of her.
	2:41pm Martinibomb: this Rita Zapora has a real nice voice
	♥ 2:42pm Jan Turkenburg: You will, I got all the cd's of her I could get from the library. Clemens Krijger is like Alan Parsons Project. He hires the musicians he need, so she only appears on three tracks of this CD
	2:43pm Linda Lee: great! was that an exploration of the Hecate goddess figure?
	♥ 2:43pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes she has, MB. She is a new talent emerging here.
	2:44pm Dave in Bangkok Thailand: Earth and Fire. Defines the Dutch offshore radio period of the 1970's. I am transported to the North Sea and Radio Veronica.
	2:44pm Linda Lee: i really, really love this track. i think i'm in love with the singer retroactively. :-)
	♥ 2:45pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Dave, yes definitely!
	2:47pm Linda Lee: oh my, listen to Fay! what is "niemand', Jan?
	♥ 2:48pm Jan Turkenburg: "nobody"
	2:49pm Linda Lee: cool! i've learned a Dutch word! thanks! :-)
	♥ 2:50pm Jan Turkenburg: I am nobody, I have nobody, I need nobody, nobody is my best friend. We're a perfect couple nobody and i
	2:51pm Linda Lee: my new theme song. :-D thank you!
	2:55pm Linda Lee: i see my favorie hindu diety is on the 'earth and fire' album cover ~ Ganesha! he helps us cross barriers & move through our difficulties.
	2:57pm Linda Lee: how amazing, too, the sound of a New Orleans funeral march matched with Dutch. :-)
	♥ 2:58pm Jan Turkenburg: There was always a lot of symnolism in the artwork of Earth and Fire. Especially their first concept albums had mostly esoteric themes and always had lot of mellotron sounds involved.
	2:58pm Linda Lee: right up my alley. :-D
	♥ 2:59pm Jan Turkenburg: 'Stumper' would roughly be a synonym for 'Loser'
	♥ 3:01pm Jan Turkenburg: It's not very often used. This is a Frysian group. Maybe in Frysian it's used more, although these lyrics are in standard Dutch.
	3:02pm Linda Lee: my other theme song! :-D
	3:02pm Mr Fab: This is some really cool cramps /Nick Cave type lowdown stuff. Is this guy like the Dutch Tom Waits?
	♥ 3:02pm Jan Turkenburg: They always remind me of Tom Waits. Don't you think so?
	3:02pm Linda Lee: that's just the name i came up with, too. that barrel-house piano.
	3:04pm Linda Lee: & that coughed-up voice..
	♥ 3:04pm chresti: Hello Duggy Frames!
	♥ 3:05pm fred: @Jan: Is Frysian from North Netherlands? I've been the Netherlands once, a long time ago, and we went to islands in the North (my favorite part of the trip)
	3:06pm Linda Lee: i would love to know what Zwetsloot is talking about. i like the arrangement! let me guess: he's singing about his frustrating daily life.
	♥ 3:07pm chresti: I like the Netherlands
	♥ 3:08pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes, Fryslan is in the north. Frysian is an official language. The Islands are great indeed. I've visited three of them with my late partner and one we even visted very often. Very dear memories I have on Schiermonnikoog...
	♥ 3:09pm Jan Turkenburg: @Linda Lee he is comparing life to a voyage by metro
	3:09pm Linda Lee: ahaha! good! thanks.
	3:10pm Linda Lee: i'm glad you have those great memories, Jan.
	♥ 3:10pm Jan Turkenburg: It's Def P. who does the rapping btw
	3:11pm Linda Lee: aha! thanks. that makes sense. :-D
	3:11pm Linda Lee: who was the vocalist with Earth & Fire?
	♥ 3:12pm Jan Turkenburg: Jerney Kaagman
	3:13pm Linda Lee: thanks! beautiful voice! i really like them ~ brand new to me.
	3:15pm Linda Lee: Hemelpoort = Heaven's door, yes? i know 'himmel', of course know 'port'.
	♥ 3:16pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes, see the update in the playlist
	3:17pm Linda Lee: yes! got it! :-)
	♥ 3:17pm Jan Turkenburg: genius.com...
	♥ 3:18pm Jan Turkenburg: I guess, you get the idea of what he's telling if you run that thru google translate
	3:20pm Linda Lee: never used google translate. maybe i could try it.
	♥ 3:23pm fred: @Linda Lee: Be careful not to trust it much though, Mary Wing got burned this week
	♥ 3:24pm Jan Turkenburg: Indeed, you have to calculate the fact that some words are completely wrong. I will have a go at it later an correct the worst faults
	3:24pm Martinibomb: Fun set today Jan! Just getting tons o work done while I listen.
	3:25pm Linda Lee: no, won't trust it too much. google..
	♥ 3:29pm Jan Turkenburg: t was a seven-day trip and the nights were long But I usually had good company and I was rarely scared On the other side of the hills, the grass was not always green I'd lie if I said I wanted to do it again It was at nightfall when the sun was on the horizon That I found my travel destination at the end of the fields I had read and heard in a thousand books and stories From the peace in paradise behind the gate of heaven The gate was small and sober, a simple wooden door In a wall of rough stone and of an indefinable color No halo, no heavenly light, no proudly flying flag Only a sign that said "We are open on the last day." I knocked hesitantly because this was such a moment when the big void opens when you hear that you are not welcome At the end of a tough journey and tired to the bid But I would get an answer to the question: "Who or what is God?" The gate opened and a bearded man looked at me kindly "It's your last day today," he said, "you can go inside My name is Peter and you have heard of me perhaps? " "Of course," I said, "but what I wanted to ask, can I see God for a moment?" Peter was silent for a moment and looked at me puzzled "Who do you say," he asked with a frown, "I didn't understand you well" I said it again and Peter reacted a little disturbed "God," he repeated, "I have never heard that name There is no one called that wayhere behind the gates of heaven ” "And Jesus," I cried in despair and with my throat tight "I know Jesus," said Peter, "but there are quite a lot of them" "And Allah," I tried, "or Yahweh, does that sound familiar?" "No, I'm sorry," said Peter, "but don't think you're not welcome now." I left the gate for what it was and went back into the fields Paradise without God had no sense at all for me After many hours of walking by the light of sun and moon I saw a shabby hut between dahlias and asters A hermit so it seemed, a weirdo or a shepherd And the end of my journey because behind the cabin it went no further Who would live on the border of everything and nothing? Maybe an outcast, the devil or something? I approached the hut and looked curiously through the window A couple sat at a table, drinking tea and eating fruit They beckoned me in and when I was sitting with them I discovered heaven in the veins of the tabletop There I saw the dust of the ages between the crumbs of breakfast And the clockless clock of eternity ticked on the wall The couple smiled at me and said in a low voice "Welcome to our home, pleasant, we are Him" “You searched for us and you found us if that is the meaning of your existence Then there is nothing to say and you can go in peace ” I asked: "why are you so silent about your presence?" They answered: "Knowing puts an end to infinity"
	3:30pm Dave in Bangkok Thailand: Great show today Jan. I am tired after today's journey from Cambodia. I will catch up via the archive. Night night everyone.
	♥ 3:30pm fred: It was good enough for me to figure out a Dutch listener would be coming to Paris for a few months. I'm glad he found a human to translate his newsletter since then
	3:34pm Linda Lee: great!!! :-) thanks Jan!
	♥ 3:35pm Jan Turkenburg: Bye Dave! Thanks for joining!
	♥ 3:37pm Jan Turkenburg: @Linda 'There is no one so hot here behind the gates of heaven' must be "there's no one called that way here"
	3:38pm Linda Lee: right. once in a while a word seems 'off', so it has to be different.
	3:39pm Linda Lee: like in the hut: 'a hermit so it seemed, a queer or a shepherd'. that struck me as funny. a queer being a homosexual..
	♥ 3:40pm Jan Turkenburg: queer would be weirdo in this case :-)
	3:41pm Linda Lee: yes, right. :-D
	♥ 3:41pm Jan Turkenburg: "zonderling" ehm... 'outcast' 'strange fellow' or something
	♥ 3:42pm Jan Turkenburg: I love those mellotrons here!
	3:43pm Linda Lee: i do too. great.
	♥ 3:43pm Jan Turkenburg: and they are getting weirder and spookier....
	3:43pm Linda Lee: fabulous!! :-)
	3:45pm Linda Lee: must leave the house & get some outside work done. thank you Jan! a great show!
	♥ 3:46pm Jan Turkenburg: Thank you for being here, Linda. You're very good company!
	3:48pm Linda Lee: thanks! you too, Jan! :-)
	3:58pm Mr Fab: Thanks again Jan. Stick around for Georgy Girl,Here we gooooo! www.wfmu.org...
	♥ 4:00pm fred: Thanks Jan, great show!

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Wim de Bie	Proloog "Proloog" by "Wim de Bie"	De Fluiten van Ver Weg, De Wereldmuziek der Cananefaten	1996		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Vinkenoog / Spinviscombo	Ja! "Ja!" by "Vinkenoog / Spinviscombo"	Ja!	2006		0:06:14 (Pop-up)
Komrij en Gauthier	Twee Koningskinderen	dansen op spijkers	2009		0:12:49 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Ad Veen en Pieter de Boer	Lion Du Ball (Listen: Pop-up)	Crazy Sounds in Music	1974		0:16:00 (Pop-up)
Ramses Shaffy & Liesbeth List	Pastorale (Listen: Pop-up)		1968	written by Boudewijn de Groot (music) and Lennaert Nijgh (lyrics) About a girl who falls in love with the sun. He doesn't approve.	0:18:29 (Pop-up)
Spinvis	Ik Wil Alleen Maar Zwemmen	Dagen Van Gras, Dagen Van Stro		"I'm not interested in what you want to tell me, how you are, how that deal went, I don't care what your opinion is, I just want to (go) swim(ming)"	0:22:26 (Pop-up)
Aafke Romeijn	Afstandsbediening "Afstandsbediening" by "Aafke Romeijn"	Je Doet je Best Maar	2016	"remote control"	0:26:43 (Pop-up)
Duo Cuydt Busch	Lacher (Lach-plaat)		1920		0:30:08 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	A) prelude "A) prelude" by "Earth and Fire"	Atlantis	1973		0:32:54 (Pop-up)
Clemens Krijger	Hekate "Hekate" by "Clemens Krijger"	Dream Ghaser	2016		0:33:44 (Pop-up)
Rita Zapora	Waterland "Waterland" by "Rita Zapora"	Als ik kijk			0:37:43 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	B) Prologue (Don't know)	Atlantis	1973		0:41:36 (Pop-up)
Fay Lovsky	Niemand "Niemand" by "Fay Lovsky"	eigen weg	2000		0:44:52 (Pop-up)
Leo Aalders	Twee afgetrapte schoenen	Mooi Onbereikbaar	1996		0:46:20 (Pop-up)
Nits	Toe in the water "Toe in the water" by "Nits"	Doing The dishes	2008		0:49:19 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: JT	field recording "field recording" by "JT"				0:51:39 (Pop-up)
Freek de Jonge	Dan lach ik mij dood (Listen: Pop-up)	Piet Paaltjens recordings	2017		0:53:50 (Pop-up)
Skarl	Stumper "Stumper" by "Skarl"	Serenade	2006		0:57:21 (Pop-up)
Olaf Zwetsloot & Def. P.	De laatste Stop	Eindhalte Fantoomstad	1996		1:01:25 (Pop-up)
Meindert Talma	Rika "Rika" by "Meindert Talma"	Piet Paaltjens recordings	2017		1:05:29 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	C) The rise and fall (under cloudy sky)	Atlantis	1973		1:09:35 (Pop-up)
Boudewijn de Groot	Achter De Hemelpoort	Lage Landen	2007	"God?" replied Peter "That name I have never heard before, but don't think you're not welcome here, behind Heaven's Door"	1:12:28 (Pop-up)
Hans Dorrestijn	Een beetje Bach "Een beetje Bach" by "Hans Dorrestijn"	Liederen van wanhoop en ongeloof II	1990	recorded 1 maart 1990, Theater Hedon Zwolle	1:18:20 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: JT	field recording (Listen: Pop-up) "field recording" by "JT"				1:19:00 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	D) Theme of Atlantis	Atlantis	1973		1:21:14 (Pop-up)
Ton Lebbink	Voetbalknieën "Voetbalknieën" by "Ton Lebbink"	Luchtkastelen		mid 80s	1:24:15 (Pop-up)
or Galis, Wim T Schippers	Soep Van De Dag	Wim T. Schippers'Radiopraktijken, Vroege vlagen (1973-1984)	1982	Wim Schippers does a lot of the Dutch Sesame Street voices, among which Ernie	1:28:40 (Pop-up)
Jules Deelder	Leert uw vogels kennen				1:31:52 (Pop-up)
Kruisbrink en van Essen	Leert uw vogels kennen	Dichter bij muziek			1:32:34 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	Interlude & Fanfare	Atlantis	1973		1:38:07 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Ad Veen en Pieter de Boer	Rendez-Vous (Listen: Pop-up)	Crazy Sounds in Music			1:46:30 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	E) The Thread (Suddenly)	Atlantis	1973		1:48:28 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	F) Destruction (Rumbling from inside the earth)	Atlantis	1973		1:50:09 (Pop-up)
Earth and Fire	G) Epilogue (Don't know)	Atlantis	1973		1:53:08 (Pop-up)
Boudewijn de Groot	De Vondeling Van Ameland	Eiland in de verte	2004		1:53:46 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Earth and Fire	Interlude (Listen: Pop-up) "Interlude" by "Earth and Fire"				1:59:00 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 2:01pm Rich in Washington: JAN!
	2:01pm Martinibomb: You're live! yay
	♥ 2:02pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Rich, Hi MB, hi everybody else! Welcome to the journey to the land of the Cananefates!
	2:08pm Linda Lee: my ignorance of the language pains me now. hello!
	♥ 2:10pm Jan Turkenburg: Ja means yes ;) Hi Linda! Vinkenoog was like the Dutch Ginsberg. I think they were friends even.
	2:11pm Linda Lee: ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! ja! i was just about to say, i hear the same kind of refrain here as in Ginsberg's 'Howl' and "Kaddish'.
	♥ 2:11pm Jan Turkenburg: I'm just curious how a shower of Dutch language words will be percieved. I just can't imagine how it must be like to listen to this and not understanding. Fascinating.
	2:12pm Martinibomb: Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee!
	♥ 2:12pm Jan Turkenburg: LOL
	2:12pm Linda Lee: i hear music. pure sound. i can hear almost any language this way too, including English. listen for the pure sound.
	2:13pm Linda Lee: we don't dig behind notes for meaning. the notes speak as notes. same with words. :-)
	2:13pm Martinibomb: I'm one of those folks who never cared about lyrics so I kinda tend to listen to everything as music. But most people I know would focus on the words and be like I don't like this because I don't understand it.
	2:13pm Linda Lee: right. that's very limiting.
	♥ 2:15pm Rich in Washington: I have this remarkable ability to either not understand lyrics or interpret them totally wrong. I guess that's why I'm drawn to artists who embrace the tone-poem/James Joyce approach to lyrics-as-sounds.
	2:15pm Linda Lee: not that the choice of words isn't totally purposeful. you're supposed to listen for meaning! :-D
	2:15pm Martinibomb: music is essentially a language. It uses a similar part of the brain as language. I'm not sure if that means anything in this situation. That idea is always interesting to me for some reason when listening to foreign lyrics.
	2:17pm Linda Lee: still the true international language, music. ~ though there, too, you have people who are turned off to anything unfamiliar, even tonally.
	2:17pm Martinibomb: @Rich I just realized yesterday the main phrase to Mr. Misters kyrie is a latin. Took me long enough haha. I was listening to Pages their earlier band and ended up on Kyrie some how Lol
	2:17pm Linda Lee: they tend to be dim people.
	2:24pm Linda Lee: when was "pastorale" recorded, Jan? love it!
	♥ 2:26pm Jan Turkenburg: Pastorale is from 1968
	2:28pm Linda Lee: i guessed! :-) thanks!
	2:32pm Mr Fab: Well lyrics are often inconsequential. I think that's why I turnd to so much International and instrumental music. The lyrics may be just as dumb in foreign languages but they won't bother me. They sound kind of cool and exotic.
	♥ 2:37pm Jan Turkenburg: The strange female voice you hear is from vocal artist Greetje Bijma
	2:37pm Linda Lee: sure! i think listening to 'foreign' sounds is healthy. keeps the cobwebs out.
	2:38pm Linda Lee: Greetje sounds a bit like Nina Hagen.
	♥ 2:40pm Jan Turkenburg: I think you can easily make that comparison, though Greetje is more into jazz and experimental classical music
	2:40pm Linda Lee: i'd like hearing more of her.
	2:41pm Martinibomb: this Rita Zapora has a real nice voice
	♥ 2:42pm Jan Turkenburg: You will, I got all the cd's of her I could get from the library. Clemens Krijger is like Alan Parsons Project. He hires the musicians he need, so she only appears on three tracks of this CD
	2:43pm Linda Lee: great! was that an exploration of the Hecate goddess figure?
	♥ 2:43pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes she has, MB. She is a new talent emerging here.
	2:44pm Dave in Bangkok Thailand: Earth and Fire. Defines the Dutch offshore radio period of the 1970's. I am transported to the North Sea and Radio Veronica.
	2:44pm Linda Lee: i really, really love this track. i think i'm in love with the singer retroactively. :-)
	♥ 2:45pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Dave, yes definitely!
	2:47pm Linda Lee: oh my, listen to Fay! what is "niemand', Jan?
	♥ 2:48pm Jan Turkenburg: "nobody"
	2:49pm Linda Lee: cool! i've learned a Dutch word! thanks! :-)
	♥ 2:50pm Jan Turkenburg: I am nobody, I have nobody, I need nobody, nobody is my best friend. We're a perfect couple nobody and i
	2:51pm Linda Lee: my new theme song. :-D thank you!
	2:55pm Linda Lee: i see my favorie hindu diety is on the 'earth and fire' album cover ~ Ganesha! he helps us cross barriers & move through our difficulties.
	2:57pm Linda Lee: how amazing, too, the sound of a New Orleans funeral march matched with Dutch. :-)
	♥ 2:58pm Jan Turkenburg: There was always a lot of symnolism in the artwork of Earth and Fire. Especially their first concept albums had mostly esoteric themes and always had lot of mellotron sounds involved.
	2:58pm Linda Lee: right up my alley. :-D
	♥ 2:59pm Jan Turkenburg: 'Stumper' would roughly be a synonym for 'Loser'
	♥ 3:01pm Jan Turkenburg: It's not very often used. This is a Frysian group. Maybe in Frysian it's used more, although these lyrics are in standard Dutch.
	3:02pm Linda Lee: my other theme song! :-D
	3:02pm Mr Fab: This is some really cool cramps /Nick Cave type lowdown stuff. Is this guy like the Dutch Tom Waits?
	♥ 3:02pm Jan Turkenburg: They always remind me of Tom Waits. Don't you think so?
	3:02pm Linda Lee: that's just the name i came up with, too. that barrel-house piano.
	3:04pm Linda Lee: & that coughed-up voice..
	♥ 3:04pm chresti: Hello Duggy Frames!
	♥ 3:05pm fred: @Jan: Is Frysian from North Netherlands? I've been the Netherlands once, a long time ago, and we went to islands in the North (my favorite part of the trip)
	3:06pm Linda Lee: i would love to know what Zwetsloot is talking about. i like the arrangement! let me guess: he's singing about his frustrating daily life.
	♥ 3:07pm chresti: I like the Netherlands
	♥ 3:08pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes, Fryslan is in the north. Frysian is an official language. The Islands are great indeed. I've visited three of them with my late partner and one we even visted very often. Very dear memories I have on Schiermonnikoog...
	♥ 3:09pm Jan Turkenburg: @Linda Lee he is comparing life to a voyage by metro
	3:09pm Linda Lee: ahaha! good! thanks.
	3:10pm Linda Lee: i'm glad you have those great memories, Jan.
	♥ 3:10pm Jan Turkenburg: It's Def P. who does the rapping btw
	3:11pm Linda Lee: aha! thanks. that makes sense. :-D
	3:11pm Linda Lee: who was the vocalist with Earth & Fire?
	♥ 3:12pm Jan Turkenburg: Jerney Kaagman
	3:13pm Linda Lee: thanks! beautiful voice! i really like them ~ brand new to me.
	3:15pm Linda Lee: Hemelpoort = Heaven's door, yes? i know 'himmel', of course know 'port'.
	♥ 3:16pm Jan Turkenburg: Yes, see the update in the playlist
	3:17pm Linda Lee: yes! got it! :-)
	♥ 3:17pm Jan Turkenburg: genius.com...
	♥ 3:18pm Jan Turkenburg: I guess, you get the idea of what he's telling if you run that thru google translate
	3:20pm Linda Lee: never used google translate. maybe i could try it.
	♥ 3:23pm fred: @Linda Lee: Be careful not to trust it much though, Mary Wing got burned this week
	♥ 3:24pm Jan Turkenburg: Indeed, you have to calculate the fact that some words are completely wrong. I will have a go at it later an correct the worst faults
	3:24pm Martinibomb: Fun set today Jan! Just getting tons o work done while I listen.
	3:25pm Linda Lee: no, won't trust it too much. google..
	♥ 3:29pm Jan Turkenburg: t was a seven-day trip and the nights were long But I usually had good company and I was rarely scared On the other side of the hills, the grass was not always green I'd lie if I said I wanted to do it again It was at nightfall when the sun was on the horizon That I found my travel destination at the end of the fields I had read and heard in a thousand books and stories From the peace in paradise behind the gate of heaven The gate was small and sober, a simple wooden door In a wall of rough stone and of an indefinable color No halo, no heavenly light, no proudly flying flag Only a sign that said "We are open on the last day." I knocked hesitantly because this was such a moment when the big void opens when you hear that you are not welcome At the end of a tough journey and tired to the bid But I would get an answer to the question: "Who or what is God?" The gate opened and a bearded man looked at me kindly "It's your last day today," he said, "you can go inside My name is Peter and you have heard of me perhaps? " "Of course," I said, "but what I wanted to ask, can I see God for a moment?" Peter was silent for a moment and looked at me puzzled "Who do you say," he asked with a frown, "I didn't understand you well" I said it again and Peter reacted a little disturbed "God," he repeated, "I have never heard that name There is no one called that wayhere behind the gates of heaven ” "And Jesus," I cried in despair and with my throat tight "I know Jesus," said Peter, "but there are quite a lot of them" "And Allah," I tried, "or Yahweh, does that sound familiar?" "No, I'm sorry," said Peter, "but don't think you're not welcome now." I left the gate for what it was and went back into the fields Paradise without God had no sense at all for me After many hours of walking by the light of sun and moon I saw a shabby hut between dahlias and asters A hermit so it seemed, a weirdo or a shepherd And the end of my journey because behind the cabin it went no further Who would live on the border of everything and nothing? Maybe an outcast, the devil or something? I approached the hut and looked curiously through the window A couple sat at a table, drinking tea and eating fruit They beckoned me in and when I was sitting with them I discovered heaven in the veins of the tabletop There I saw the dust of the ages between the crumbs of breakfast And the clockless clock of eternity ticked on the wall The couple smiled at me and said in a low voice "Welcome to our home, pleasant, we are Him" “You searched for us and you found us if that is the meaning of your existence Then there is nothing to say and you can go in peace ” I asked: "why are you so silent about your presence?" They answered: "Knowing puts an end to infinity"
	3:30pm Dave in Bangkok Thailand: Great show today Jan. I am tired after today's journey from Cambodia. I will catch up via the archive. Night night everyone.
	♥ 3:30pm fred: It was good enough for me to figure out a Dutch listener would be coming to Paris for a few months. I'm glad he found a human to translate his newsletter since then
	3:34pm Linda Lee: great!!! :-) thanks Jan!
	♥ 3:35pm Jan Turkenburg: Bye Dave! Thanks for joining!
	♥ 3:37pm Jan Turkenburg: @Linda 'There is no one so hot here behind the gates of heaven' must be "there's no one called that way here"
	3:38pm Linda Lee: right. once in a while a word seems 'off', so it has to be different.
	3:39pm Linda Lee: like in the hut: 'a hermit so it seemed, a queer or a shepherd'. that struck me as funny. a queer being a homosexual..
	♥ 3:40pm Jan Turkenburg: queer would be weirdo in this case :-)
	3:41pm Linda Lee: yes, right. :-D
	♥ 3:41pm Jan Turkenburg: "zonderling" ehm... 'outcast' 'strange fellow' or something
	♥ 3:42pm Jan Turkenburg: I love those mellotrons here!
	3:43pm Linda Lee: i do too. great.
	♥ 3:43pm Jan Turkenburg: and they are getting weirder and spookier....
	3:43pm Linda Lee: fabulous!! :-)
	3:45pm Linda Lee: must leave the house & get some outside work done. thank you Jan! a great show!
	♥ 3:46pm Jan Turkenburg: Thank you for being here, Linda. You're very good company!
	3:48pm Linda Lee: thanks! you too, Jan! :-)
	3:58pm Mr Fab: Thanks again Jan. Stick around for Georgy Girl,Here we gooooo! www.wfmu.org...
	♥ 4:00pm fred: Thanks Jan, great show!

Frame Duggy Louder with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from August 30, 2019

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