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Favoriting January 6, 2020: Station Manager Ken Freedman on tech trends in 2020

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Tech trends in 2020 with Station Manager Ken Freedman

Tech trends:

• Surveillance everywhere, I mean everywhere: Kohler puts an Alexa-enabled smart speaker in a showerhead (The Verge, Jan 3)

• "Reasonable" (?) responses to surveillance: How we survive the surveillance apocalypse (Washington Post, Dec 31): "The first time I used Jumbo, I was shocked that it identified a half-dozen privacy settings for Facebook and Google that even I had missed. Now the app goes in on a regular basis and deletes my Alexa recordings, Google data and Twitter posts, reducing the data trail I leave behind me."

• Students as vulnerable population under tech control: Colleges are turning students' phones into surveillance machines (Washington Post, Dec 24): "We're adults. Do we really need to be tracked?" ... "Why is this necessary? How does this benefit us? … And is it just going to keep progressing until we're micromanaged every second of the day?"

• Decoupling the Internet. From Axios (Jan 6, 2020): "The globalist triumphalism of the '90s and 2000s has given way to Trump-era protectionism and a splintering of the global internet into three distinct regions — the U.S., Europe and China — with fundamentally different legal regimes. China is where the ideal of internet freedom lost out to a government that now successfully monitors its citizens' doings and controls their speech. It has built its own domestic software and services industry that rival the U.S.-led Big Tech giants. China is also where much of our tech hardware, including most iPhones, get made. That keeps China and the U.S. interdependent — for now."

(And from Mike Gallagher in the NYT piece below: "The internet as we know it is largely American, but by 2030 the Chinese Communist Party will have built an entirely new internet where Beijing attempts to monopolize key supply chains, stifle free speech and hoard personal data. The menace is already real. The C.C.P. is increasingly exporting its model abroad. Huawei and ZTE seek to build the world’s networks; WeChat and TikTok play a growing role in online discourse; Chinese cryptocurrencies could one day threaten the dollar.")

• Climate change due to tech: Edward Snowden on the world in 2030 (NYT, Dec 26): "Electricity usage by data centers is enormous and expanding, threatening to top 10 percent of global electricity consumption within the next decade and to produce roughly five times the CO2 emissions of all current global air travel. As more power is required to cool these data centers, the warmer the planet will become."

The Real Trouble With Silicon Valley (Atlantic, Jan/Feb 2020): "Perhaps it’s time to reconsider the wisdom of placing such a big bet on Silicon Valley delivering the United States from its rusting present to a glimmering future. Too much American ingenuity is chasing problems that simply don’t matter. The web was once celebrated as a democratizing force and a means of escaping institutional control. But Silicon Valley’s most profitable business model has been to construct expansive systems for tracking and manipulating human behavior."

We've spent the decade letting our tech define us. It's out of control (Guardian, Dec 29)

The Tech That Will Invade Our Lives in 2020 (NYT, Jan 1)

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtonerangs!
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Ike:

Techtonicaliconicalics!
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Daddy Hernlet:

Good evening Mark, Ken, and all the listeners! Looking forward to this week's show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Howdy. Google gagged, Ring doorbell unrung, iPhone set to stun -- I'm all ready!
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annie:

i love calvin
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BigCat:

Ola, tek chronics!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi SM Ken! Hi Techtonicnites!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, can we hear some info about TechtoHazMat?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Daddy Hernlet:

Been reading a bunch about increasing drone surveillance and I'm not liking what I'm reading.
Avatar 6:05pm
herb.nyc:

Major tech trends. Major Major is interested.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
ultradamno:

I have a positive spin: Amazon's Ring will come in handy when The Purge becomes a real thing.
  6:05pm
melinda:

Hi friends. Happy 2020!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Mark & Ken & friends!
  6:06pm
John from Florham park:

Hello fellow technoids
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Handy Haversack:

I have missed the show in real time for three weeks! Unacceptable! Glad to be here with all of you. Still cell-phone free!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
northguineahills:

love that Calvin & Hobbes, Mark chose a poignant and apropos one!
Avatar 6:08pm
Fredericks:

Big guys know we're on to them?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
northguineahills:

Anyone see the new Dr. Who? there's a baddie CEO of a tech company that's a surrogate for google....
  6:11pm
David in London:

Forewarned is forearmed as they say. Sock it to us Mark.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
ultradamno:

I'm sure Meat Loaf thinks those people are brainwashed to think they are on fire.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
ultradamno:

The orange skies of New Zealand www.msn.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Handy Haversack:

I still thank the activists that we kept them out of LIC every time I walk over the Pulaski Bridge
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
dale:

good evening. it felt like sunset happened later today. reason to be cheerful number 1.
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Michael 98145:

@dale, agreed
  6:16pm
John from Florham park:

Ultradammo DAMN is all I have to see
  6:16pm
P-90:

Hey, you ask a professional musician for his sage observations on science, politics, and current events, and... can you complain about what you get?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Webhamster Henry:

@ngh there was a similar Googly bad guy in the last season of Elementary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
dale:

the golden globes made me realize actresses are poor - very few of them wore blouses.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
ultradamno:

Ricky Gervais saying something I agree with is the quickest way for me to start questioning my position.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Ike:

@NGH, I've seen part 1 and I'm not impressed. Evil tech types are not a new kind of villain for Dr. Who and that terrible showrunner writer is still pretty lame, though better than last year. Or as Elizabeth Sandifer puts it, "not so much competent as non-incompetent, television stitched together by someone who has seen enough of it to know where all the pieces are supposed to go, but who has at best a hazy understanding of why they go where they do or what their purpose is." Looking forward to all of the upcoming episodes NOT written by that dingbat.
  6:21pm
melinda:

Howdy SM Ken!
  6:22pm
iiibeat:

The evolution of technology is basically a separate evolution from that of human psychology and morality . . Just because technology changes. . . It doesn't necessarily change tendencies of brutality and ignorance established throughout human history and thought! Thought and morality can change only via a change in thought and morality . . Technology can facilitate changes but it cannot make the changes toward peace and benevolence.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Layers of dust/ashes covering glaciers will cause them to melt faster and causing a "snowball effect" of things getting ever hotter. earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
ultradamno:

No extraordinary risk, No slight reward!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Webhamster Henry:

You don't have to be driving to be distracted.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
ultradamno:

In those cases, shouldn't we always refer to their families as 'long-suffering'?
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Fredericks:

Alexa can now spit at you!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Handy Haversack:

Are there legal loopholes for killing people who take selfies on busy sidewalks, subway stairs, or in front of famous artworks? Or at least very firm nudging?
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dale:

how about the alexa toilet that can report to your doctor the shape and content of your stool? that HAS to be on the horizon...
  6:27pm
iiibeat:

I really need to send my email to Ken and Olivia . . Of course
. I need to write it first . .
Avatar 6:27pm
herb.nyc:

So cute, ken said "selfie pictures of themselves". So did an ex-CIA guy, about that dead fellow Suleimani, in Saturday NYTimes.
  6:27pm
P-90:

@dale- in Japan they’ve had toilets for many years that do all that and more...
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dale:

people in 1919 had that fear as well. maybe. but probably not.
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Handy Haversack:

I hope Andy didn't hear that one.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Webhamster Henry:

@dale I made a iPhone clinical trial app's Bristol stool reporting control.
  6:29pm
yippie:

silver is better than gold
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ultradamno:

The scam I keep hearing about lately, I mentioned this elsewhere not long ago, is a variation of the Nigerian Prince scam where you get an email from a midrange celebrity (Juliette Lewis and Alexander Skarsgaard are the ones I've heard about) claiming to be in a financial jam and needing money (and somehow you made the list of people for them to contact).
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Phillippe Bastille:

I'm going to start dating my checks using the Mayan calendar.
  6:30pm
ignatatus666:

They do not have your signature if you did not receive the check yet
**I had employees in the early part of the century that were able to Fish cash drop envelopes from a tumbler style safe.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Handy Haversack:

You're eight years past due, @Phillippe Bastille!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
chris:

problem with your apps? there's an app for that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Phillippe Bastille:

@Handy It just means I can get all my checks with the date pre-printed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
coelacanth∅:

folks have done that with pharmaceuticals for years.
-chase those side effects with other drugs with different side-effects
Avatar 6:34pm
annie:

DDG is horrible
  6:35pm
convoy_pt2:

How do you get brave to default to duckduckgo when doing a search? My version defaults to google!!! I cant find the option to change it
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coelacanth∅:

duckduckgo is definitely getting better; and is much better for images. good for youboob videos because you can watch the video without actually going to the youboob site.
gobble is still better for translations, sometimes for definitions...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Phillippe Bastille:

I like Dogpile for images
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Ken From Hyde Park:

@convoy_pt2 - What browser are you using? (Firefox / Opera / Apple / etc. ?)
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BigCat:

hey — WHERE DO I GET A FLIP PHONE THAT ONLY TEXTS & CALLS?

(serious)

AND DOES IT TAKE A SIMS CARD?
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Ergophobic Erwin:

Mark and Ken: I've used DuckDuckGo for years now, and have taken advantage of its "bangs" feature to search Google. My sense is that DDG makes "bangs" searches incapable of being tracked. Am I mistaken in this?
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Phillippe Bastille:

@bigCat bunches of them here: www.ebay.com...
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ultradamno:

"The best firms advertise the least" - Mark E. Smith, I guess the other end is the morally deteriorating firms start advertising incrementally.
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dale:

surprised mark hurst doesn't have a burner.
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chris:

privacy settings on iphone - www.lifewire.com...
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Handy Haversack:

Startpage is also "Google enhanced" -- though I am fine with DDG.
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chris:

me, too, Ken! iranian cyber warfare units will only get better (they were able to down a US drone a few years age - pretty sophisticated)
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chris:

*ago
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dale:

with an 80 million price on trumps head i wonder if an american will try to cash in on it.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Sounds like we're going to have a whole bunch of different countries meddling in the 2020 election this fall.
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Pete from Bloomfield:

There are dams up the Hudson that, if they failed suddenly, would have catastrophic effects on NYC and communities downstream.
Avatar 6:44pm
Carmichael:

@Phillippe, what is a "check"?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
ultradamno:

...but were the Iranians and Sheldon Adelson ever really going to be friends?
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coelacanth∅:

hmmm, i could use $80,000,000.00
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Can you guys do this show quarterly? I really appreciate this so much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
melinda:

@tim me too
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dale:

coelacanth - i'll look the other way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
coelacanth∅:

(except for the antennas atop the skyscrapers that topple down)
  6:47pm
iiibeat:

I think that the strength of an argument against the willful and careless offerings of data to the big-tech spy mechanisms knowing that you or whoever has nothing to hide . . We know that there are insidious and vile tendencies that humans in general are capable of employing and . . We don't know what happens to the innocent and willful data once it is created!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Hackers would like to break into the electrical grid. Imagine if they jacked up everybody's electricity to 220V instead of 110V? Lots of burned out TVs. Or if they were to knock out the Nakatomi Building?
  6:49pm
iiibeat:

The U.S. government controls our speech via a system of classification of information!!
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melinda:

Ecosia seems legit, they fund different reforestation projects around the world: info.ecosia.org...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
tim from champaign (now washington):

But Ken, what about Khlam?!?
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Phillippe Bastille:

Saw this AWS commercial during the games yesterday that referred to Baker Mayfield "reading the defense like a children's book". Then they talk about Baker throwing a pass with about a 5% chance of success. Tells me that either Baker Mayfield's reading comprehension isn't great or Amazon doesn't think about what they say. Probably both.
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dale:

everyone knows 220 is just two 110 hot legs - no way to do that ken from hp without sending rogue electricians into everyone's circuit breaker box.
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Carmichael:

Buy just think, every circuit breaker on earth flipping off simultaneously ...
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Carmichael:

Yes, that drone is a true story.
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Michael 98145:

thank you, again
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Charmichael @644 checks are what the sound crew asks for when they're setting up the mics
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BigCat:

thank you @Phillippe_Bastille !
  6:54pm
ignatatus666:

FMU not sure which DJs during the marathon 2 years ago? Had discussed FMU creating a FB style social media site commercial free. I’m all for that if it is uncensored. I was in FB jail for calling Honey boo boos mother white trash.
Go FMU!!!
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ultradamno:

I saw that deep fakes made into a plot element in a recent Blacklist episode (Red tested a subordinate by faking a rival to offer to betray him)
  6:55pm
ignatatus666:

**How do I play Pokémon go without being tracked?
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Phillippe Bastille:

@BigCat You're welcome
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chris:

here's the drone incident from 2011 in iran - en.wikipedia.org...
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Michael 98145:

go back to 35mm film stock !!
  6:56pm
John from Florham park:

@iggy if that happens with WFMU I would join
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listener 126464:

ignatuatus666 i think that was Mark this show
  6:56pm
Listener Robert:

Can anyone explain why a thief would want to change the year on your check, and how that could hurt you?
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dale:

it's the best time to be a criminal in ny because there's no bail thanks to cuomo. unless you get violent. but still....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
dale:

i pull on the device you stick your card into at gas stations.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Carry a credit card with only a 2K limit.
  6:57pm
Listener Robert:

Also, is Ricky Gervais the same as the one on an early "Survivor"?
  6:58pm
convoy_pt2:

@ ken from hyde park

Apple IOS
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I noticed an Exxon station nearby has an NFC panel to use wireless phone pay. I wonder if that is any more or less susceptible to skimming?
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark and Ken!
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dale:

will the dumb phones still work? verizon wants you to believe not.
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Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks gents!
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melinda:

I haven't used a debit card in ages because I couldn't remember my PIN, good to know I'm also practicing good security.
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Handy Haversack:

Thank you both! The absolute best!
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dale:

melinda - ignorance can be bliss.
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chresti:

Thanks, great show!
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chris:

thanks, guys!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Ken!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark! Thanks Ken!
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chresti:

They render old devices useless @Dale
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I found this, convoy_pt2: www.appletoolbox.com...
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dale:

chresti - i fell for that after 4 g crap, so got a smart phone when my 8 year old flip phone went through the laundry. but they still sell flip phones so i gotta believe they were yanking my chain.
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