WFMU: Tony Coulter: Playlist from January 19, 2021

Listener comments!
	11:33am Tony Coulter: Hello, all! Today's playlist art is an untitled painting by Minnie Evans, from 1968.
	🥁 12:01pm listener james from westwood: Good Tuesday, Tony and everyone!
	12:01pm Tony Coulter: Top o' the muffin mornin', James!
	🥁 12:02pm ynod: Howdy do!
	🥁 12:02pm Yvang: Hello Tony! Hello James and fellow listeners! I like the painting...
	🥁 12:02pm Yvang: Hello Ynod!
	12:03pm Mark R: I like it--reminds me of the cover of the Zombies "Odyssey & Oracle" somehow
	🥁 12:03pm ynod: Hey Yvang! How's things?
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Hey, hey, hey, ynod, Yvang, & Mark R!
	🥁 12:03pm Yvang: Things' all right ynod!
	12:04pm Sem: Hello, Tony, and coultergeists everywhere.
	12:04pm Mark Williams: is this where we storm the Give the Drummer capitol?
	12:04pm Tony Coulter: Greets, Sem and Mark W!!
	🥁 12:05pm Yvang: @Mark R : Are you the Circle time's dj?
	12:07pm Mark R: Yes although I haven't done a show in almost a year!
	12:07pm spodiodi: hi Tony! hi all!
	12:07pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, spodi!
	🥁 12:09pm Yvang: @Mark R : I used to listen regularly on mondays in the morning (from Europe) even though I wasn't commenting much.
	12:09pm Mark R: Oh cool!
	12:11pm Ike: Greetings, alla youse humans, pigs, dogs, pigdogs, dogpigs, aardvarks, potato frigates, sidewinders, tailpipe drainage masters, kings of flirting with mountains, and especially all the cats!
	🥁 12:12pm WR: hi Tony, Sem, coultergeists, excellent term.
	🥁 12:12pm Yvang: The Shaggs would fit well in this set!
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: Greets, Ike & WR!
	12:14pm coelacanth∅: greetings greetings greetings Tony and Coultered listeners
	🥁 12:15pm Yvang: Four Seasons Total Coultering
	12:15pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy-o, Coel!
	12:19pm Stanley: Toby!
	12:20pm Tony Coulter: Stella!
	12:20pm Mark Williams: this KinkZoid reminds of a Nocturnal Emissions record
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: They're an offshoot of the Blitzoids
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: (who are great) www.discogs.com...
	12:29pm Ike: @WR@12:12 and @Yvang@12:15, ROTFL
	12:30pm Dean: For bodhisattvas in Berkeley, in pre-pandemic times one could do worse than visit Wat Mongkolratanaram, a Thai Buddhist temple that featured a great Sunday morning brunch buffet.
	12:32pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Greetings everybody. Wow! I know David. B. Doty through The Well - online community similar to Echo and still around. I've heard his music before but never on WFMU.
	12:35pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, heya, Dean and Sweet Corn Lizzie!! @ SCL: Have never of The Well ... or Echo. Are they music-centered communities?
	12:35pm Dean: Uncle Michael is an early and avid Well proponent. Founded by Stewart Brand, I believe.
	12:36pm Dean: An online community, not strictly music, though John Perry Barlow was also a proponent.
	12:40pm Mark R: This is outsider music, I guess.
	12:40pm Tony Coulter: Yep. To match today's outsider playlist art.
	12:42pm spodiodi: i like this auction action
	🥁 12:42pm ynod: This is fantastic
	12:44pm spodiodi: that's the stuff
	12:44pm spodiodi: fast talkers ftw
	12:46pm Tony Coulter: Yeah, rappers got nothin' on that, speedwise.
	12:46pm Mark R: The music feels more outsider than the painting, IMHO. Some more outside than others.
	12:48pm Tony Coulter: Well, from today's playlist I'd only call Larry Aeschbocker and Neil Dick "outsiders" -- but then again, down with labels.
	🥁 12:49pm ynod: at least the major labels.
	12:50pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	12:51pm spodiodi: this sounds familiar
	12:53pm Stanley: None of this music today is remotely recognisable to me. Which is nice.
	12:55pm Tony Coulter: I'll be bringing you the hits later on.
	12:57pm Mark Williams: Tony "I'll be bringing you the hits later on" C. New tag line, just like that.
	12:58pm Tony Coulter: Double ha!
	1:03pm coelacanth∅: what is "outsider" outside of?
	1:04pm Listening Out There: Why, yes, I am lurking. Why do you ask?
	1:07pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy, L.O.T.!
	1:08pm Listening Out There: Greetings, Mr. Host Sir. :)
	1:08pm spodiodi: Beatless track reminded me of the band belonging to the brother of one of the players of the band of which the Furniture Huschle track reminded me. nice set, Tony
	1:08pm Mark R: Like if you found some lunatic raving on the subway platform and you recorded him, he's an "outsider," not part of the mainstream of music, outside of even the "underground" or "indie" music scene. Some might say there's an Emperor's New Clothes aspect to the appreciation of such artists, but those people are strictly squaresville, baby.
	1:09pm coelacanth∅: you are not lurking, you are listening out there.
	1:09pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, spodi!
	1:20pm coelacanth∅: Mark, hmmm. . . ...but it's not just a matter of sucking, right? like, you can suck pretty bad and not be "outsider"; and you can be interesting and even musical and not be considered outsider...no?
	1:20pm coelacanth∅: Mark, hmmm. . . ...but it's not just a matter of sucking, right? like, you can suck pretty bad and not be "outsider"; and you can be interesting and even musical and not be considered outsider...no?
	1:21pm coelacanth∅: (^that's weird)
	1:21pm Tony Coulter: @ Coel: Absolutely, yes.
	1:22pm Tony Coulter: except, I assume you mean "You can be interesting and even musical and BE considered outsider."
	1:23pm coelacanth∅: oh. yes Tony you assume correctly.
	1:26pm coelacanth∅: (suddenly my computer's all sticky) ...but my question remains unanswered. it seems that "outsider" just means essentially unknown.
	1:33pm Tony Coulter: @ coel: It's a really slippery term, but I think it implies an unawareness of what's going on around the person, musically speaking, and a lack of awareness of how they sound to someone else. Someone who knows they sound unusual, or sets out to be weird, is probably not an outsider. People who make some of the strangest outsider music can think they sound "normal." They list the Beatles, or whatever, as their main influence. But they can still be very musical in their own weird way.
	1:34pm Tony Coulter: But, of course, the above is just my own personal definition.
	1:39pm Tony Coulter: These days there are plenty of "fake" outsiders in both the visual arts and in music. Meaning, they know full well what they're doing, no matter how whacked out or primitive they seem.
	1:40pm spodiodi: i like your definition and addendum, TC
	1:42pm coelacanth∅: yes that makes a lot of sense Tony. and Thank you for indulging me.
	1:48pm Rick from SC: This Exponent reminds me of Camel
	1:49pm Tony Coulter: Hi, Rick! Definitely see what you mean!
	1:50pm Tony Coulter: By the way, we'll be loitering in the '60s and '70s for a bit, for a change of pace.
	🥁 1:50pm ynod: Here come the hits!
	1:51pm Tony Coulter: Exactly!
	2:15pm Sem: "The Miraculous Hump Returns from the Moon ". This is fun loitering, TC. Thanks.
	2:19pm WebHamster Henry: I was on the Well and still am on Echo, where Im the host of the Comix conference.
	2:20pm Tony Coulter: Heya, Henry Hamster!
	2:21pm WebHamster Henry: Im listening, but on a bus to nyc so commenting makes me carsick!
	2:21pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Yes the Well and Echo were early community sites, not about any particular subject, though the Well has a large Deadhead community. I think of "outsider" art and music as being uncredentialed - outside the system of degrees, MFAs, galleries, etc. Though this applies more to art than to music.
	2:22pm Sem: Well, there's a blues for everything.
	2:22pm spodiodi: haha
	🥁 2:22pm listener james from westwood: Oh good lordt!
	2:23pm JtotheK: hi tony, hi everyone. did this brian woodbury record get top 40 airplay?
	2:23pm coelacanth∅: keep the hits coming Tony!
	2:23pm Sem: I hear it big on the top forty.
	2:23pm Mark R: Just because someone is mentally ill doesn't make them a genius.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Heya, JtotheK!
	🥁 2:24pm Yvang: It takes balls to play this.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	2:24pm Dean: Dizzy Gillespie wrote this song?
	2:25pm JtotheK: "you need to get a grip" lyric - ha ha.
	2:25pm coelacanth∅: Brian Woodbury is a stand-up guy though
	🥁 2:25pm listener james from westwood: Distributed exclusively on MiniDisc.
	2:25pm Mudshark: "My dick is a Monster"
	🥁 2:25pm Yvang: Is there an extended version?
	2:25pm coelacanth∅: haha Dean i was going to ask if that's what Diz was really trying to say
	2:28pm coelacanth∅: Tony was that a trick to see how many people were listening?
	2:30pm Tony Coulter: Well, I figured it would flush some of you out into the open. Where are the ladies, though?
	🥁 2:31pm ynod: Back to basics
	2:33pm coelacanth∅: Tony, songs like that make some people shrink
	2:33pm Stanley: Yes, where are the ladies?
	2:35pm Mark R: You have to play some dance music to get the ladies out on the floor.
	2:37pm spodiodi: this is dance music
	2:38pm spodiodi: at least i hope this is dance music. waltzing alone is tiring
	2:39pm spodiodi: that sounds like SAM (C=64)
	2:40pm spodiodi: phat simulationcorner.net...
	2:40pm coelacanth∅: the ladies are so predictable
	2:42pm Tony Coulter: Gideon the Rabbit
	2:45pm Hal: I am the Indian of the group.
	2:46pm Tony Coulter: It's Hal, the Indian computer! Heya!
	2:47pm coelacanth∅: so, outsider? they/he knew it was weird and not mainstream but were not necessarily trying to be weird. probably more like "this'll sound cool"
	2:48pm Tony Coulter: Bangone, you mean? definitely not outsider, in my book.
	2:49pm Tony Coulter: Where is that book, by the way? I think it might be overdue.
	2:51pm coelacanth∅: okay. i think i'm getting it. next we're going tackle "alternative" and exactly where the line is.
	🥁 2:51pm Julie: Yes I too think baking in the sun is no good
	2:52pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, Julie!
	🥁 2:53pm Julie: hey Tony!
	2:53pm coelacanth∅: oh goth, it's Julie! hi Julie
	2:55pm spodiodi: 🐝 thanks, Tony!
	🥁 2:57pm Julie: hi coela!
	🥁 2:57pm WR: thank you Tony, all overdue fines forgiven until June or further notice. thank you.
	2:57pm coelacanth∅: holy crap it's 3? i'm supposed to be gone from here. Thanks for playing the hits Tony. i danced my ass off
	🥁 2:58pm Yvang: Crazy show! Thanks, Tony!
	2:58pm Tony Coulter: Oops! Forgot to mention: Thom Jones (DDDJJJ666) will be filling in for me next week. Show him a good time.
	🥁 2:58pm ynod: Great show TC! Thanks a zillion! See y'all...
	2:59pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, everyone! See you in two weeks!
	🥁 2:59pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Tony, and enjoy the break!
	2:59pm Sem: THx, TC!!
	3:00pm coelacanth∅: tape 666 tuesday?
	3:05pm Tony Coulter: @ Coel: Nope, it won't be a Tape Hiss. Just whatever 666 deigns to play.

Tony Coulter: Playlist from January 19, 2021

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The In-Theme	"The In-Theme"				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Larry Aeschbocker	Don't Take My Mind	Homemade Vol. 1	no label	200?	0:01:56 (Pop-up)
Glamorous Pat	Erase Basics "Erase Basics" by "Glamorous Pat"	Numb Psyches See	no label	2001	0:05:58 (Pop-up)
Tarpigh	Chance "Chance" by "Tarpigh"	Monsieur Monsoon	North East Indie	2000	0:08:39 (Pop-up)
Glamorous Pat	Letchling "Letchling" by "Glamorous Pat"	Numb Psyches See	no label	2001	0:11:52 (Pop-up)
Iceplants	U.N. Gruel "U.N. Gruel" by "Iceplants"	Done by the Iceplants	Small Tools Tradition	1986	0:14:26 (Pop-up)
The Sweet Pups	Angry Satanic Spanish Homeless Man	The Sweet Pups	Three Records	200?	0:17:39 (Pop-up)
KinkZoid	Son of El Beato "Son of El Beato" by "KinkZoid"	The Book of Pages	Mook	2007	0:19:39 (Pop-up)
David B. Doty	Bodhisattvas in Berkeley? – Mu!	Uncommon Practice	Syntonic Records	1998	0:23:27 (Pop-up)

Larry Aeschbocker	Vacation "Vacation" by "Larry Aeschbocker"	Homemade Vol. 1	no label	200?	0:32:51 (Pop-up)
Neil Dick	Something Wonderful Happened	The Future Is Now	no label	2006	0:35:31 (Pop-up)
Wolfgang Salomon	Petit a Petit "Petit a Petit" by "Wolfgang Salomon"	Luna – Small Step for Mankind	Chance Productions	1992	0:39:52 (Pop-up)
Rick Wilson	Anseef "Anseef" by "Rick Wilson"	Suitable Language	Third Force	1996	0:44:29 (Pop-up)
Junkyard Genius	Bozo Heretic? "Bozo Heretic?" by "Junkyard Genius"	The Diary of Dick Benito	Unauthorized Medicine	2002	0:47:12 (Pop-up)
Furniture Huschle	Museum "Museum" by "Furniture Huschle"	Waiting for Parts	Spare Me	1999	0:50:28 (Pop-up)
Nicky Andrews	Non Stop Evergreens	Realistic Psychosis	Thomas Tomcat	1995	0:52:35 (Pop-up)
Fetus Productions	Rock A Bye Baby	Luminous Trails	Flying Nun	1985	0:54:47 (Pop-up)
KinkZoid	Devil on My Couch "Devil on My Couch" by "KinkZoid"	Further Unpleasantries	Mook	2008	0:56:49 (Pop-up)
Beatless	Cutting into Things of Value	Love Your Parents	Wifflefist	1996	1:00:36 (Pop-up)

The Black Lodge Ensemble	French Quarter	Jim-Bum	Black Lodge Productions	2008	1:06:58 (Pop-up)
David Simons	Kebyar Leyak "Kebyar Leyak" by "David Simons"	Gamelan Son of Lion – New Gamelan/New York	GSOL	1995	1:12:08 (Pop-up)
Invisible Idiot	Son of Telly Savalas	Outta Sight, Outta Mind	Earring	1999	1:19:08 (Pop-up)
Gilles Campaux	S.O.S. "S.O.S." by "Gilles Campaux"	Musiques de Spectacles	Ass Zic	1993	1:21:48 (Pop-up)
Fetus Productions	The Prisoner "The Prisoner" by "Fetus Productions"	Intensive Care Unit	Q.D.K. Media	1989	1:26:56 (Pop-up)
Mystery Artist	Clear Sky "Clear Sky" by "Mystery Artist"	New Mexico	no label	1999	1:31:24 (Pop-up)
Chinese Dog Girls	Prelude Somewhere Around the 9th Fret	Live from the Theatre of Vampires	Medikal Records	1990	1:37:26 (Pop-up)

Exponent	Thoughts (1974) "Thoughts (1974)" by "Exponent"	Upside Down	Garden of Delights	2015	1:42:17 (Pop-up)
Flied Egg	Out to the Sea "Out to the Sea" by "Flied Egg"	Good Bye	RE: Bamboo	1972	1:48:52 (Pop-up)
Faraway Folk	Patterned Moon "Patterned Moon" by "Faraway Folk"	Seasonal Man	RE: Big Pink	1975	1:51:25 (Pop-up)
Wide Lightning	In the Black "In the Black" by "Wide Lightning"	Auto Destruct	no label	2002	1:55:31 (Pop-up)
Ed Fissinger	Kelly in Oregon "Kelly in Oregon" by "Ed Fissinger"	Light Years Away	Friendship	1977	1:58:02 (Pop-up)
Sopwith Camel	Dancin' Wizard "Dancin' Wizard" by "Sopwith Camel"	The Miraculous Hump Returns from the Moon	Reprise	1973	2:01:37 (Pop-up)
Country Joe & the Fish	The Baby Song	C.J. Fish	Vanguard	1970	2:04:36 (Pop-up)
Joan Baez	Saigon Bride "Saigon Bride" by "Joan Baez"	Joan	Vanguard	1967	2:07:29 (Pop-up)
Pan	Song to France "Song to France" by "Pan"	Pan	RE: Second Life	1970	2:10:42 (Pop-up)
The Third Power	Lost in a Daydream	Believe	RE: Lizard	1970	2:12:51 (Pop-up)

The Wibbley Brothers	Lois "Lois" by "The Wibbley Brothers"	Mornin' Jack	Trubshaw's Astonishing Records	2020	2:18:45 (Pop-up)
Brian Woodbury	Small Penis "Small Penis" by "Brian Woodbury"	Antipathy & Ideology	ReR/Some Phil	2020	2:21:18 (Pop-up)
Meadow House	Midgefly Larvae Lover	Tongue Under a Ton of Nine Volters	Alcohol	2005	2:25:03 (Pop-up)
Ischio Romantico	Urbane Deserts vs. Sylphides	From the Hip	Shadazz	2010	2:26:57 (Pop-up)
Glamorous Pat	Date-a-Rake "Date-a-Rake" by "Glamorous Pat"	Numb Psyches See	no label	2001	2:30:44 (Pop-up)
Chakra	Song of the Side Dish (live in Nagoya, 1983)	From Birds to a Mountain	One World Arts	2020	2:33:50 (Pop-up)
Bruce Atchison	Rabbit Haiku Poems	Shutup&talk2me	no label	2002	2:38:34 (Pop-up)
Bangone	Ace-Ton "Ace-Ton" by "Bangone"	Bangone	Gingerflip	1992	2:43:56 (Pop-up)
Death on a Stick	Sunbaked No Good (1986)	Industrial Strength Jazz	Just Cleveland's Past	1999	2:48:50 (Pop-up)
The Peanut Butter Conspiracy	Flight of the Psychedelic Bumblebee (1967?)	Spreading from the Ashes	Big Beat	2005	2:53:03 (Pop-up)

The Out-Theme	Gelbart: My Favorite Vacation [part of] + Die Trip Computer Die: Airborn [part of]				2:58:09 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	11:33am Tony Coulter: Hello, all! Today's playlist art is an untitled painting by Minnie Evans, from 1968.
	🥁 12:01pm listener james from westwood: Good Tuesday, Tony and everyone!
	12:01pm Tony Coulter: Top o' the muffin mornin', James!
	🥁 12:02pm ynod: Howdy do!
	🥁 12:02pm Yvang: Hello Tony! Hello James and fellow listeners! I like the painting...
	🥁 12:02pm Yvang: Hello Ynod!
	12:03pm Mark R: I like it--reminds me of the cover of the Zombies "Odyssey & Oracle" somehow
	🥁 12:03pm ynod: Hey Yvang! How's things?
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Hey, hey, hey, ynod, Yvang, & Mark R!
	🥁 12:03pm Yvang: Things' all right ynod!
	12:04pm Sem: Hello, Tony, and coultergeists everywhere.
	12:04pm Mark Williams: is this where we storm the Give the Drummer capitol?
	12:04pm Tony Coulter: Greets, Sem and Mark W!!
	🥁 12:05pm Yvang: @Mark R : Are you the Circle time's dj?
	12:07pm Mark R: Yes although I haven't done a show in almost a year!
	12:07pm spodiodi: hi Tony! hi all!
	12:07pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, spodi!
	🥁 12:09pm Yvang: @Mark R : I used to listen regularly on mondays in the morning (from Europe) even though I wasn't commenting much.
	12:09pm Mark R: Oh cool!
	12:11pm Ike: Greetings, alla youse humans, pigs, dogs, pigdogs, dogpigs, aardvarks, potato frigates, sidewinders, tailpipe drainage masters, kings of flirting with mountains, and especially all the cats!
	🥁 12:12pm WR: hi Tony, Sem, coultergeists, excellent term.
	🥁 12:12pm Yvang: The Shaggs would fit well in this set!
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: Greets, Ike & WR!
	12:14pm coelacanth∅: greetings greetings greetings Tony and Coultered listeners
	🥁 12:15pm Yvang: Four Seasons Total Coultering
	12:15pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy-o, Coel!
	12:19pm Stanley: Toby!
	12:20pm Tony Coulter: Stella!
	12:20pm Mark Williams: this KinkZoid reminds of a Nocturnal Emissions record
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: They're an offshoot of the Blitzoids
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: (who are great) www.discogs.com...
	12:29pm Ike: @WR@12:12 and @Yvang@12:15, ROTFL
	12:30pm Dean: For bodhisattvas in Berkeley, in pre-pandemic times one could do worse than visit Wat Mongkolratanaram, a Thai Buddhist temple that featured a great Sunday morning brunch buffet.
	12:32pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Greetings everybody. Wow! I know David. B. Doty through The Well - online community similar to Echo and still around. I've heard his music before but never on WFMU.
	12:35pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, heya, Dean and Sweet Corn Lizzie!! @ SCL: Have never of The Well ... or Echo. Are they music-centered communities?
	12:35pm Dean: Uncle Michael is an early and avid Well proponent. Founded by Stewart Brand, I believe.
	12:36pm Dean: An online community, not strictly music, though John Perry Barlow was also a proponent.
	12:40pm Mark R: This is outsider music, I guess.
	12:40pm Tony Coulter: Yep. To match today's outsider playlist art.
	12:42pm spodiodi: i like this auction action
	🥁 12:42pm ynod: This is fantastic
	12:44pm spodiodi: that's the stuff
	12:44pm spodiodi: fast talkers ftw
	12:46pm Tony Coulter: Yeah, rappers got nothin' on that, speedwise.
	12:46pm Mark R: The music feels more outsider than the painting, IMHO. Some more outside than others.
	12:48pm Tony Coulter: Well, from today's playlist I'd only call Larry Aeschbocker and Neil Dick "outsiders" -- but then again, down with labels.
	🥁 12:49pm ynod: at least the major labels.
	12:50pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	12:51pm spodiodi: this sounds familiar
	12:53pm Stanley: None of this music today is remotely recognisable to me. Which is nice.
	12:55pm Tony Coulter: I'll be bringing you the hits later on.
	12:57pm Mark Williams: Tony "I'll be bringing you the hits later on" C. New tag line, just like that.
	12:58pm Tony Coulter: Double ha!
	1:03pm coelacanth∅: what is "outsider" outside of?
	1:04pm Listening Out There: Why, yes, I am lurking. Why do you ask?
	1:07pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy, L.O.T.!
	1:08pm Listening Out There: Greetings, Mr. Host Sir. :)
	1:08pm spodiodi: Beatless track reminded me of the band belonging to the brother of one of the players of the band of which the Furniture Huschle track reminded me. nice set, Tony
	1:08pm Mark R: Like if you found some lunatic raving on the subway platform and you recorded him, he's an "outsider," not part of the mainstream of music, outside of even the "underground" or "indie" music scene. Some might say there's an Emperor's New Clothes aspect to the appreciation of such artists, but those people are strictly squaresville, baby.
	1:09pm coelacanth∅: you are not lurking, you are listening out there.
	1:09pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, spodi!
	1:20pm coelacanth∅: Mark, hmmm. . . ...but it's not just a matter of sucking, right? like, you can suck pretty bad and not be "outsider"; and you can be interesting and even musical and not be considered outsider...no?
	1:20pm coelacanth∅: Mark, hmmm. . . ...but it's not just a matter of sucking, right? like, you can suck pretty bad and not be "outsider"; and you can be interesting and even musical and not be considered outsider...no?
	1:21pm coelacanth∅: (^that's weird)
	1:21pm Tony Coulter: @ Coel: Absolutely, yes.
	1:22pm Tony Coulter: except, I assume you mean "You can be interesting and even musical and BE considered outsider."
	1:23pm coelacanth∅: oh. yes Tony you assume correctly.
	1:26pm coelacanth∅: (suddenly my computer's all sticky) ...but my question remains unanswered. it seems that "outsider" just means essentially unknown.
	1:33pm Tony Coulter: @ coel: It's a really slippery term, but I think it implies an unawareness of what's going on around the person, musically speaking, and a lack of awareness of how they sound to someone else. Someone who knows they sound unusual, or sets out to be weird, is probably not an outsider. People who make some of the strangest outsider music can think they sound "normal." They list the Beatles, or whatever, as their main influence. But they can still be very musical in their own weird way.
	1:34pm Tony Coulter: But, of course, the above is just my own personal definition.
	1:39pm Tony Coulter: These days there are plenty of "fake" outsiders in both the visual arts and in music. Meaning, they know full well what they're doing, no matter how whacked out or primitive they seem.
	1:40pm spodiodi: i like your definition and addendum, TC
	1:42pm coelacanth∅: yes that makes a lot of sense Tony. and Thank you for indulging me.
	1:48pm Rick from SC: This Exponent reminds me of Camel
	1:49pm Tony Coulter: Hi, Rick! Definitely see what you mean!
	1:50pm Tony Coulter: By the way, we'll be loitering in the '60s and '70s for a bit, for a change of pace.
	🥁 1:50pm ynod: Here come the hits!
	1:51pm Tony Coulter: Exactly!
	2:15pm Sem: "The Miraculous Hump Returns from the Moon ". This is fun loitering, TC. Thanks.
	2:19pm WebHamster Henry: I was on the Well and still am on Echo, where Im the host of the Comix conference.
	2:20pm Tony Coulter: Heya, Henry Hamster!
	2:21pm WebHamster Henry: Im listening, but on a bus to nyc so commenting makes me carsick!
	2:21pm Sweet Corn Lizzie: Yes the Well and Echo were early community sites, not about any particular subject, though the Well has a large Deadhead community. I think of "outsider" art and music as being uncredentialed - outside the system of degrees, MFAs, galleries, etc. Though this applies more to art than to music.
	2:22pm Sem: Well, there's a blues for everything.
	2:22pm spodiodi: haha
	🥁 2:22pm listener james from westwood: Oh good lordt!
	2:23pm JtotheK: hi tony, hi everyone. did this brian woodbury record get top 40 airplay?
	2:23pm coelacanth∅: keep the hits coming Tony!
	2:23pm Sem: I hear it big on the top forty.
	2:23pm Mark R: Just because someone is mentally ill doesn't make them a genius.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Heya, JtotheK!
	🥁 2:24pm Yvang: It takes balls to play this.
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	2:24pm Dean: Dizzy Gillespie wrote this song?
	2:25pm JtotheK: "you need to get a grip" lyric - ha ha.
	2:25pm coelacanth∅: Brian Woodbury is a stand-up guy though
	🥁 2:25pm listener james from westwood: Distributed exclusively on MiniDisc.
	2:25pm Mudshark: "My dick is a Monster"
	🥁 2:25pm Yvang: Is there an extended version?
	2:25pm coelacanth∅: haha Dean i was going to ask if that's what Diz was really trying to say
	2:28pm coelacanth∅: Tony was that a trick to see how many people were listening?
	2:30pm Tony Coulter: Well, I figured it would flush some of you out into the open. Where are the ladies, though?
	🥁 2:31pm ynod: Back to basics
	2:33pm coelacanth∅: Tony, songs like that make some people shrink
	2:33pm Stanley: Yes, where are the ladies?
	2:35pm Mark R: You have to play some dance music to get the ladies out on the floor.
	2:37pm spodiodi: this is dance music
	2:38pm spodiodi: at least i hope this is dance music. waltzing alone is tiring
	2:39pm spodiodi: that sounds like SAM (C=64)
	2:40pm spodiodi: phat simulationcorner.net...
	2:40pm coelacanth∅: the ladies are so predictable
	2:42pm Tony Coulter: Gideon the Rabbit
	2:45pm Hal: I am the Indian of the group.
	2:46pm Tony Coulter: It's Hal, the Indian computer! Heya!
	2:47pm coelacanth∅: so, outsider? they/he knew it was weird and not mainstream but were not necessarily trying to be weird. probably more like "this'll sound cool"
	2:48pm Tony Coulter: Bangone, you mean? definitely not outsider, in my book.
	2:49pm Tony Coulter: Where is that book, by the way? I think it might be overdue.
	2:51pm coelacanth∅: okay. i think i'm getting it. next we're going tackle "alternative" and exactly where the line is.
	🥁 2:51pm Julie: Yes I too think baking in the sun is no good
	2:52pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, Julie!
	🥁 2:53pm Julie: hey Tony!
	2:53pm coelacanth∅: oh goth, it's Julie! hi Julie
	2:55pm spodiodi: 🐝 thanks, Tony!
	🥁 2:57pm Julie: hi coela!
	🥁 2:57pm WR: thank you Tony, all overdue fines forgiven until June or further notice. thank you.
	2:57pm coelacanth∅: holy crap it's 3? i'm supposed to be gone from here. Thanks for playing the hits Tony. i danced my ass off
	🥁 2:58pm Yvang: Crazy show! Thanks, Tony!
	2:58pm Tony Coulter: Oops! Forgot to mention: Thom Jones (DDDJJJ666) will be filling in for me next week. Show him a good time.
	🥁 2:58pm ynod: Great show TC! Thanks a zillion! See y'all...
	2:59pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, everyone! See you in two weeks!
	🥁 2:59pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Tony, and enjoy the break!
	2:59pm Sem: THx, TC!!
	3:00pm coelacanth∅: tape 666 tuesday?
	3:05pm Tony Coulter: @ Coel: Nope, it won't be a Tape Hiss. Just whatever 666 deigns to play.

Tony Coulter: Playlist from January 19, 2021

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