WFMU: Give The Drummer Some with Doug Schulkind: Playlist from September 3, 2021

Listener comments!
	8:47am WR: I hope this program honoring Carla Bley is in no way a reflection of Bley's health and that at 85 she is still making music...
	8:50am Doug Schulkind: This is not a memorial. This is love.
	8:51am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Doug and all other listeners.
	8:53am Doug Schulkind: Hello, Andrew in Toronto and all other Andrews in Toronto.
	8:55am WR: Karen Mantler's web site for Carla and Steve is near impenetrable but at the same time very welcoming: www.wattxtrawatt.com
	8:56am Doug Schulkind: I adore that website.
	8:58am Andrew in Toronto: Let`s say a prayer from our hearts for our friends in New York, New Jersey and Louisiana please?
	🥁 9:01am StringOFperils: That is a fun website. Haven't seen it for eons. Grog Kill/WATT. Always a good thing.
	9:01am Listener Gregory: I did not see today's show coming.
	9:02am Doug Schulkind: Some cool links for great Carla content: Ethan Iverson interview (at Do the M@th): ethaniverson.com... John Doran interview (at The Quietus): thequietus.com... David Schroeder videotaped interview (with NYU Jazz Studies): youtu.be... The Long Rally interview (on WFMU): wfmu.org... Amy C Beal (biography): www.press.uillinois.edu...
	🥁 9:02am listener james from westwood: Good Friday, Doug and all!
	9:03am Doug Schulkind: Greetings, StringOFperils! Blind Listener Gregory! listener james from westwood!
	9:03am TDK60: Buenos dias, Doug. And "osda sunalei" too! That's Cherokee for good morning. Why not?
	🥁 9:03am StringOFperils: The last show I saw in NY, years ago, Carla Bley with Steve Swallow and Andy Shepherd at the Blue Note. Insanely long time ago.
	9:03am Doug Schulkind: All tongues welcome, TDK60!
	🥁 9:04am StringOFperils: Hi Doug, and Drumheads. Good morning!
	🥁 9:05am PAULS: Some people some people!!
	9:06am WR: Lady C weekend, yo.
	9:07am Webhamster Henry: Hi Doug! Looking forward to wallowing in Carla Bley's music.
	9:07am listener Rey: hello Doug and the GTDR community
	9:07am TDK60: I love the Marfa Office of WFMU. Very hip, those two desert DJs.
	9:08am Doug Schulkind: PAULS! Webhamster Henry! listener Rey!
	🥁 9:09am StringOFperils: @tdk60 > Agreed 100%. Terrific two programs issuing from Marfa TX. Reassuring radio.
	9:09am HyperDose: I just saw that on the schedule. She's definitely using her powers. The Force is indeed with Marfa 📡🥠📜
	9:09am Doug Schulkind: This song title, O Plus One is a joke on the musical nomenclature Opus One. A self-effacing name for basically your first tune to be performed publicly.
	🥁 9:10am βrian: Good Friday morning. Still slightly asleep.
	🥁 9:10am JtotheK: Hello - everyone!!!!!!
	9:11am Doug Schulkind: As long as your are entirely βrian. Hi hi hi, JtotheK!
	9:12am Doug Schulkind: Hi/perDose!
	🥁 9:12am bobdc: The Raybeats had a song called Andy's Plus One, which I assume was about them giving their friend Andy two guest list slots and him bringing a date that impressed them.
	9:12am Irene Trudel: Carla Bley!!! One of my favorite musical geniuses. Really looking forward to this tribute, Doug!
	9:13am Doug Schulkind: Glad you made it past the bouncer, bobdc. Howdy, Irene!!
	9:15am Gina Bacon: Morning, Doug & Frodayfolks!
	9:15am ausmanx: a rare and random visit, hope you're well, doug [and everyone]
	🥁 9:15am StringOFperils: I love Carla Bley's deadpan gallows sense of humor, when she writes, and when she speaks. Charles Addams-like. and of course, the humor is always in the arrangements too.
	9:15am Doug Schulkind: Gina Bacon yay! And whoa! ausmanx is here! Nice to read you, mate!
	🥁 9:15am dutchtheo: Howdy, Doug and drummers and drummerless trio's!
	9:17am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils Bley is so freaking funny! And she give even zeroer fucks than most. dutchtheo, in the howwwwse!
	9:18am Listener Gregory: I don't remember hearing "Jesús Maria" before. This is the best song you've played all day!
	9:19am Doug Schulkind: Bless you, Listener Gregory.
	🥁 9:19am PAULS: Love the Raybeats bobdc. I'm proud to call original member Pat Irwin a friend!
	🥁 9:19am StringOFperils: Here's to not giving a f*** while all the while demonstrating that you are, inarguably, not only right but in fact way ahead of the game.
	9:21am redkayak: Good morning all!
	9:22am Alex In Illinois: The first Carla Bley number that got me to buy an album was "Wrong Key Donkey"
	9:23am Alex In Illinois: I saw her perform in Grant Park ... years ago. Maybe it was ni the 1990s
	9:24am Alex In Illinois: I think it was a Jazz festival
	9:25am Doug Schulkind: Thanks for paddling over, redkayak! Heya, Alex in Illinois. Wrong Key Donkey and Donkey are actually the same tune.
	🥁 9:25am StringOFperils: In 1981, for a while I became obssessed with two albums; one was Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats, and the other was Carla Bley's TROPIC APPETITES. Tropic Appetites won out in the end. I love that freakin' LP.
	9:27am redkayak: @Doug - Ahoy captain!
	🥁 9:28am Artie: Right or wrong, a donkey's still a donkey. Unless it's a mule. Happy to have turned on the sub for the Don Ellis track. Also works for Mr. Perry's contribution.
	9:35am TDK60: She was a cigarette girl at Birdland! I wonder when that phenomenon died out.
	9:35am Andy Schwartz: Diggin' the show from Saugerties NY!
	9:36am ausmanx: i wonder if we can assume that if they'd had cigarette machines back in the day, we never would have had carla bley...
	9:37am Doug Schulkind: You wield a mighty trowel, Andy Schwartz! @Artie You'd have to be a complete ass to not like "Wrong Key Donkey."
	9:39am Doug Schulkind: Trying to fit Carla Bley's prolific career into three hours is a fool's errand. I'm a happy fool.
	9:40am Doug Schulkind: Steve Swallow on bass here with Art Farmer.
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Monster pianist Don Friedman here with Attila Zoller. The dude was performing, recording and teaching well into his 90s. Only just discovered him a few years, and I am ears over heels for his playing.
	9:43am Phillippe: Good morning
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: Bon jour, Phillippe!
	🥁 9:46am Brian in UK: Is this the Schulkind music Therapy Show?
	9:47am thedunkel: Good Morning Mr. Drummer! Good Morning All!
	9:47am TDK60: Hi Brian in UK.
	🥁 9:48am Brian in UK: Hello ausmanx, long time no 'see'. Still playing the in & out of Lockdown game downunder.
	9:48am Doug Schulkind: @Brian in UK Let the healing commence. So glad to see you, thedunkel!
	🥁 9:49am Brian in UK: Hello TDK60, keeping safe & dry?
	9:49am Flash Strap: good morning Doug and Drummers! deep love for Bley, recently been exploring the Tropic Appetites album
	9:50am ausmanx: hey brian, yep, though i'm luckier than most, can go back and forth to our little place in the mountains cos it's still in "Greater Sydney". but this is the lockdown we had to have, otherwise we wouldn't have bothered getting vaccinated! hope you're well there in the wilds of Shropshire
	9:50am Flash Strap: oh god yes i love Tong Funeral
	9:50am Matt Fiveash: Glad you're doing this, Doug, and glad Carla Bley is not dead! I am, as you know, fairly oblivious to most new releases, but Carla Bley/Steve Swallow/Andy Sheppard's 2020 album Life Goes On on ECM was brought to my attention via Ira's WFMU show and I was so knocked out that I went ahead and mail-ordered the LP. It proved to be one of a handful of albums that kept me from losing my shit during those lockdown months. Highly recommend if you haven't heard it yet.
	9:51am TDK60: Yes, thanks, Brian. The wind shook my walls that night. But okay, I live on a hill, in a building flights up.
	9:52am Doug Schulkind: @Flash Strap You are the second person present to mention Tropic Appetites. (Of course, it's one of the recordings that didn't make into my final show list.)
	9:53am Doug Schulkind: @Matt Fiveash!!! Always great to see your smiling, er, face. Life Goes On is miraculous. Listen for it in my closing set today.
	🥁 9:54am Brian in UK: ausmanx, being in the wilds of Shropshire is just fine & out of the way.
	🥁 9:54am StringOFperils: Interested in exploring Carla's lead sheets? Courtesy of WATT > www.wattxtrawatt.com...
	9:55am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils Thanks for posting that. That site just cracks me the fuck up. But it's serious business, too. A perfect encapsulation of Carla's whole "thing."
	🥁 9:56am StringOFperils: All websites should feature a Death Row
	🥁 9:57am Brian in UK: Flash Strap @ 9.50, please do not call the DJ god unless you have conclusive evidence. (think the English sense of humour might get lost in the ether here!)
	9:57am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils And all death rows should feature Scumbag Trump (as does that site).
	9:58am Matt Fiveash: Doug- well alright! xoxo
	9:58am Flash Strap: @Brian: Doug = Guod
	🥁 9:58am doctorjazz: Hello Drummers!
	🥁 9:59am doctorjazz: Carla Bley show! Wonderful! (I looked back and was reassured she didn't pass...)
	10:00am ausmanx: put the kettle on anyway, brian, i might get over there for a visit again some time in 2022
	10:00am Peter K.: Lovely show, and a more than worthy subject. I realize you have no need for requests, but it sure would be nice if the Tony Williams Lifetime's recording of "Spectrum" should find its way into your playlist.
	10:01am ARB: Beautiful first hour! Looking forward to knowing Carla better, thanks Doug!
	🥁 10:02am StringOFperils: The orange suit is on its way, Doug. Patience.
	🥁 10:03am StringOFperils: Hi Arb!
	10:03am Little Danny: Greetings Doug, all!
	🥁 10:04am Brian in UK: ausmanx, look forward to seeing you, anytime.
	10:06am Phillippe: Hey LD! Having a good vacation/staycation?
	🥁 10:07am StringOFperils: From Flarb-O-Scope to The Lone Arranger. We are WFMU-blessed.
	10:08am Ramblin' Ray: Hello Doug and fellow ear-wiggers.
	10:09am Doug Schulkind: That was a fricking sizzling show last night, ARB! @Peter K I was going to play "Vashkar" from that Tony Williams record. "Spectrum" is a John McLaughlin composition, no? Greets, Diminutive Daniel!
	10:11am ARB: Hi SOp! Thank you Doug!
	10:11am Doug Schulkind: "Spectrum" on the Tony Williams Lifetime record Emergency is credited to an "A. Hall," whom I believe is actually John McLaughlin.
	10:11am Doug Schulkind: Getting wiggy with it, Ramblin' Ray!
	10:13am Doug Schulkind: It's kinda of insane that I'm only playing one track from Escalator on the Hill (and a 2:22 track at that). I should be courtmartialed.
	🥁 10:14am PAULS: At least get yourself a jazz lawyer, Doug.
	🥁 10:15am bobdc: It's wild to see on en.wikipedia.org... that Phil Schaap remixed this Tony Williams album for CD in 1991. I really didn't think that fusion was his cup of tea.
	10:16am Doug Schulkind: Sometime during the next set or so, my magnificent daughter Lincoln will be heading off to begin her senior year in university. So there is happysadness amidst the joy.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: I was just checking her discography; you'd need multiple shows just to get to music recorded under her name... en.m.wikipedia.org...
	10:17am Doug Schulkind: @bobdc I did not know that. Would not have guessed it. @doctorjazz Carla could have her own 24-hour stream dedicated to her output.
	10:19am Doug Schulkind: Up next following Mary Halvorson's delectable rendering of "Ida Lupino," Carla will perform "Oni Puladi," a retrograde (reversed) version of the same song. Incredible.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: This Halverson version it's great-can't think of other guitarists who could get such detail, yet sound so "chunky" at the same time, very cool!
	10:23am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz Actually, Mary Halvorson's nickname in junior high school was "Chunky"! No it wasn't.
	10:23am WR: The two versions together, so beautiful, literally tears hearing heres.
	🥁 10:23am doctorjazz: I wonder if Bley did the backward take out of frustration with getting it requested all the time (or overexposed by hearing so many covers of it).
	10:24am Listener Gregory: This sounds to me like much of the music is actually a reversed tape, rather than just playing the composition backwards. (The solo sounds forwards.)
	10:25am Doug Schulkind: @yrogerG renetsiL Very interesting observation.
	10:26am Peter K.: I screwed up, by the way -- I meant "Vashkar," not "Spectrum" (which is not a Bley composition). Sorry!
	10:26am TDK60: I first heard "Ida" from NRBQ, a vocal cover on their 1st, s/t LP, 1969.
	10:26am Listener Gregory: If the tape isn't being played backwards, then kudos to the horns doing the melody for getting that backwards-tape timing down.
	10:26am Peter K.: Which, of course, you played (while I was in a meeting).
	10:27am Doug Schulkind: @Peter K See my earlier comments!
	10:28am Little Danny: Thank you Phillippe, I am!
	10:34am Listener Gregory: Must show off my new knowledge by pointing out that Ursula Oppens was Julius Hemphill's wife. So, it all comes around in a big circle!
	10:36am Doug Schulkind: @TDK60 Yes! NRBQ's version!!
	10:38am Doug Schulkind: Links to some highly entertaining and wonderful interviews and such with Carla Bley: Ethan Iverson interview (at Do the M@th): ethaniverson.com... John Doran interview (at The Quietus): thequietus.com... David Schroeder videotaped interview (with NYU Jazz Studies): youtu.be... The Long Rally interview (on WFMU): wfmu.org... Amy C Beal (biography): www.press.uillinois.edu...
	10:38am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory You have complete license to show off here.
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Somehow missed this album (love the Bley Big Band albums of the 70s, 80s, 90s,...)
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Along with her many musical gifts, I am grateful to her for letting her frizzy hair fly. Sincerely, Frizzled in Brooklyn
	10:40am Doug Schulkind: I am now faced with the dilemma of having to cut some tracks due to the fact that I've yapped too much. Will I never learn?!
	10:41am Little Danny: I really dig this.
	10:41am Doug Schulkind: @Jeff Golick Carla's hair! Just as fucking fabulous as everything else about her.
	10:42am Irene Trudel: Doug, that just means you'll have to do Carla Bley part 2 sometime.
	10:43am Rich in Washington: This is amazing Doug. I'm so glad you're doing Bley day.
	10:44am Doug Schulkind: @Irene Trudel And then Part 3 and Part 4 and... Part 87...and...and... @Rich in Washington Happy Bleyday to you, too!
	🥁 10:44am doctorjazz: I once read an interview with her in which she put down her early arranging, saying she didn't know what she was doing, learned and did it much better later (and she preferred the later arrangements). I have to say, she probably has some technical things she notices, but in so in love with her early arranging madness!
	🥁 10:45am doctorjazz: *I'm so in love...
	10:47am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz Bley is not one to look backward. There is always so much more onrushing to investigate. That said, she often does revisit older compositions. It would be interesting to study how never performances of older compositions differ in context of a matured approach.
	10:47am Listener Gregory: This 3/4 is very interesting!
	10:50am Doug Schulkind: That European music hall/oom-pah sound finds its way into so much of Carla's writing. She was larglely self-taught as a pianist (and totally self-taught as a composer), but her first influence was her father, Emil Borg, who was a Swiss (Swedish?) immigrant.
	10:51am Little Danny: Fascinating, Doug, I totally hear that.
	10:52am Doug Schulkind: Carla Bley was born Lovella May Borg.
	10:52am Doug Schulkind: Emil Borg was a church choirmaster in Oakland, California, when young Lovella was coming up.
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: Burlesque, wild, some emphasis on beat 2 and 4 (the oom-pah), much counterpoint, new things introduced out of nowhere, some craziness. She did smooth some of that over over the years (not that that was a bad thing, but the flavor mellowed a bit. Which, I suppose, many of us do over the years...)
	10:56am Listener Gregory: Warning: If you name your child Lovella May Borg, she will move to the city and become a "cigarette girl"!
	10:56am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz I believe Carla has suggested that melody has become more important to her.
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: Just ordered this on Discogs.
	🥁 10:59am doctorjazz: I don't mean to criticize, love the later stuff, groups with Steve Swallow, trios, etc, but observing the progression over time.
	11:01am solo mon: Good morning Doug and friends:-)
	🥁 11:01am sinner: Where's the coffee??
	11:03am solo mon: Adoration is important, we need to celebrate artists while they are living.
	11:03am Webhamster Henry: Usually if there's a 3 hour tribute, it's Yusuf Lateef.
	🥁 11:04am doctorjazz: I love this track!
	🥁 11:04am PAULS: coffee still in the bean...
	🥁 11:04am StringOFperils: D. Sharpe: Jonathan Richman's The Modern Lovers MKII drummer ALSO!
	11:04am Uncle Michael: I love to sing-a.
	🥁 11:05am doctorjazz: Part of the ooompa is that tuba...
	🥁 11:05am StringOFperils: Saw these guys do this @ the El Mocambo. Fantastic!
	🥁 11:05am bobdc: "I Hate to Sing" is not the first piece you've played today that reminds me of a Fellini soundtrack.
	11:05am Jeff Golick: I also hate to sing, I'm with Carla here. I'm reminded a bit of Braxton's foray's into that kind of tuba/march cadence.
	🥁 11:06am doctorjazz: Jealous, StringOFperils!
	11:07am Doug Schulkind: @solo mon That's exactly what I'm getting at! Nice touch of tango with this ditty. @bobdc I believe Carla would appreciate that observation. Speaking of love... it's Uncle Michael!
	11:07am Little Danny: Yeah I totally got Fellini soundtrack vibes from "3/4" as well
	11:07am Little Danny: Hi Solo!
	🥁 11:07am StringOFperils: @bobdc > She was working with Hal Willner around the same time...this is close to the era when her big band recorded music from Fellini's 8 1/2 for Willner's Fellini Amarcord tribute
	11:07am Doug Schulkind: According to Carla, all the other guys in her band were too fucking chicken to perform this number. D. Sharpe was the only one to step up.
	11:08am Little Danny: Wow, that is some solid intel, String-o
	🥁 11:08am PAULS: Or step IN, as it were.
	🥁 11:10am bobdc: Once you've been in Jonathan Richmann's band I guess you get braver about singing.
	11:10am solo mon: Nino Rota vibes, also cool about Hal wilner!
	11:10am Doug Schulkind: This is the project StringOFperils is referring to: www.discogs.com...
	🥁 11:11am doctorjazz: John Zorn's early jump cuts in genre, and The Microscopic Septet, likely were influenced by this stuff.
	11:11am spodiodi: good morning, Doug Schulkind! good morning, all!
	11:11am TDK60: Hmm, I never sang at a Fellini viewing. Next time..
	11:11am solo mon: Also Weimar cabaret vibes.
	🥁 11:12am doctorjazz: Ahhhh....
	11:12am Andrew in Toronto: Hi TDK60.
	11:13am Andrew in Toronto: Hello doctorjazz.
	11:13am Listener Gregory: I feel this was the golden era of Carla Bley.
	11:13am Doug Schulkind: Howdy, spodiodi! The outrageously wonderful Gary Valente on trombone here. For a while there he was also known as Carla's son-in-law.
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: Hi Andrew!
	🥁 11:13am StringOFperils: Yeah, there's Weill and Eisler in there too, solo. The best borrow from the best.
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: She did great things with these gospel chords (not to mention that trombone...)
	11:15am Doug Schulkind: Weill. Eisler. Rota. Morricone. Is it any wonder that Carla Bley has always been much more robustly received in Europe than in the U.S.A.?
	11:15am Listener Gregory: Doug, could I be known as your son-in-law? Or do you have to check with your kids?
	11:16am Doug Schulkind: Carla has had a thing for the trombone and the bass. So many huge talents have swirled in her orbit, but the trombones and the basses always seem to swirl closest to her sun.
	🥁 11:17am doctorjazz: Lovely Bley organ (perfect counterpoint to Valente)
	11:17am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory You can be known as my son outlaw. How's that suit you?
	11:18am Doug Schulkind: Up next, maybe possibly Carla Bley's most beautiful song.
	11:19am Listener Gregory: I don't know if I can live up to that one, but I'll try.
	🥁 11:19am StringOFperils: Those brass colours feature prominently in the sound, but it's everything. To actually watch her conduct her jazz orchestra is illuminating. Her specificity in a live situation comes through, and I felt that the band actually loved and respected her deeply; they'd do anything for her.
	🥁 11:19am PAULS: I glad you qualified that intro Doug, cuz that's a big bite...
	11:19am Franco Twinkie: A Carla Bley - Lee Scratch Perry mashup is how I like to get this holiday weekend off the ground.
	🥁 11:20am doctorjazz: I love this too (killing it, Doug!)
	11:20am Doug Schulkind: We may never come down, Franco Twinkie!
	🥁 11:20am StringOFperils: Howard Johnson, Arturo Farrell, oh man..what a band.
	11:21am Franco Twinkie: Let us float away Doug.
	🥁 11:21am doctorjazz: These albums from that period see just fabulous!
	11:22am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils It can't be understated just how many great but underknown artists received a regular paycheck as the result of Carla's employing them.
	🥁 11:22am PAULS: OK. This is beautiful.
	🥁 11:23am doctorjazz: So much for accomplishing anything (nice I have Fridays off now...)
	11:23am Doug Schulkind: Trombonist Gary Valente was from Boston. He recommended local drummer D. Sharpe to Carla. He also recommended Beantown saxist Tony Dagradi (heard here on tenor). She hired them on the spot based on Gary's word.
	11:24am chresti: Hi Drummer Doug and drummers!
	11:24am Doug Schulkind: chresti! hello!
	11:24am Listener Gregory: Trivia: Utviklingssang is Swedish for "escalator over the hill."
	11:24am Franco Twinkie: A perfect piece for this overcast morning in L.A.
	11:25am Doug Schulkind: More gorgeousness coming up. The last set might gorgeous your pants right off.
	11:25am chresti: Nice chatty avatar spodi \\//
	11:27am Ramblin' Ray: Utvikling = development
	11:29am spodiodi: good morning, chresti! thanks :D
	11:29am Alex In Illinois: Does D. Sharpe also go by the name of E. Flatt?
	🥁 11:29am StringOFperils: Carla's difficult-listening projects from the 70s are really interesting too. SILENCE, the Harold Pinter play inspired album, with Kevin Coyne and Robert Wyatt is so depressing that it's punk. The Hapless Child, the Edward Gorey themed project is also cool. She's great at undermining her own commercial potential....thank goodness.
	11:29am Franco Twinkie: This universe is unfair, brutal and uncaring that's how.
	11:33am Matt Fiveash: There it is! Magnificent.
	11:34am Doug Schulkind: @Alex in Illinois What sound do you hear when you drop a piano down a coal shaft? A flat miner.
	11:35am Doug Schulkind: @Matt Fiveash A shimmering wonder.
	11:35am chresti: Haha
	11:36am rw: Good morning! What a way to start the day.
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: Swallow sounding great!
	11:36am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils There is a whole prog/punk path I could have taken with this show. So many paths.
	🥁 11:38am StringOFperils: Your selections are, as always, astute Doug!
	🥁 11:38am doctorjazz: That's the bass that REALLY swirled closest to her sun.
	11:39am Listener Gregory: Doug, you took the path taken (by you), and that has made all the difference. This Copycat has a Sweet Georgia Brown source, I believe.
	11:39am Franco Twinkie: Ruminative was the right path Doug.
	11:39am Doug Schulkind: Happy to see you, rw! @doctorjazz Carla talks about how intensely Swallow works on his sound. From the type of cables and amp, to the fretboard and everything else. It is his entire universe.
	11:40am Andrew in Toronto: I`m scooting early again Doug. Please be kind! I have to take my dad to his optometrist appointment.
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Drummer denomination. Super show this morning!
	🥁 11:40am doctorjazz: And there is no other bass player that has his amazing sound.
	11:40am Listener Gregory: I was going to leave early to start my walk, but... I appear to be still here. Couldn't quite leave in the middle.
	11:41am Doug Schulkind: More heart-swelling sounds will come out of your radios if you stay tuned in to the Drummer Stream. Everybody's favorite Uncle is next!! Hinky Dinky Playlist: wfmu.org...
	11:41am Uncle Michael: yadda yadda yadda: wfmu.org...
	11:42am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory I must gently insist that you stay for the end. The final piece is sublime.
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: (That's an audiophile tenet-cables and electronics effect the sounds of one's gear...)
	11:43am Listener Gregory: OK, will do jumping jacks instead of taking my hike. Ignore the thumps.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Shades of the Paul Bley version of the Giuffre 3?
	🥁 11:44am doctorjazz: The trio with Sheppard and Swallow seemsto be her favorite vehicle of late.
	🥁 11:44am StringOFperils: Good to know how to tweak things to sound optimal for yourself, especially when you face an evening of playing at this level, while a room full of people eat dinner and drink as you pour your heart out
	11:45am rw: I used to get record catalogues from New Music Distribution Service as a teenager. Didn't realize NMDS was Carla Bley and Michael Mantler until recently. The last one I got I had to beg for and it came with a hand written note. I think they were struggling but they seemed very cool.
	11:45am Listener Gregory: Sweet Georgia Bley
	11:47am Doug Schulkind: @rw Oh man, NMDS. Their annual (semi-annual?) catalog was like my Bible. I would riff through the pages and plunk my finger down and buy shit randomly. All of it MASSIVE.
	11:47am Doug Schulkind: Carla talks of receiving the phone call from Charlie Haden's wife, Ruth, informing her that he had died. Carla was in her garden when she got the call. She told Ruth she needed to process it and would call her back later. She then moved to the piano and wrote "Time/Life" for Charlie. Here it is performed by Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra.
	11:49am rw: Yeah, Doug, same here. One of my regrets in life is that I didn't have more cash to spend on records back then!
	11:51am Doug Schulkind: @rw So painfully true!
	11:51am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, can you think of another trio with that instrumentation? Unusual to omit the drums in a jazz trio.
	11:52am Little Danny: Thank you Doug, only had a passing familiarity with Bley, really enjoyed this primer
	11:52am Doug Schulkind: OMIT THE DRUMS????!!!!!
	11:52am Doug Schulkind: @Little Danny So deeply much my pleasure.
	🥁 11:54am StringOFperils: Omit is her remit. The drums are simply arranged out, but they're present by implication....or something to that effect. The rhythmic push and pull of the arrangement is like a ghost rhythm section
	11:55am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils I'll buy that.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: @LG: Giuffre 3 with Steve Swallow and a different Bley?
	11:56am spodiodi: thank you, Doug!
	11:56am Uncle Michael: Amazing show today, Doug. Thank you for raising the bar.
	11:56am Doug Schulkind: Gonna go a couple minutes over into Hinky Dinky Time time. I will be sure to spank myself after the show.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: I'll meet you under the bar, @UM.
	11:57am Doug Schulkind: @Uncle Michael I'm usually the one closing the bar, amirite?!?!
	🥁 11:57am PAULS: Great image, Doug, thank you
	11:57am Uncle Michael: srsly
	11:57am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, good point, but that's way back in the 60s. Not so many, really.
	🥁 11:57am StringOFperils: Lovely to spend time this way. Dear dear Carla. Thanks Doug!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: I really needed this. Thanks a million Doug.
	11:57am Listener Gregory: Truly excellent show, Doug. Thanks a lot. And it's great to hear such a tribute when the artist is still alive.
	🥁 11:58am doctorjazz: Thanks fort he wonderful tribute, Doug!
	11:58am Doug Schulkind: Mostly I'm just glad to do the tribute while I'm still alive.
	🥁 11:58am dutchtheo: Thanks, Doug!
	11:59am Doug Schulkind: Can't wait to play for you the soul set I had been working on for today's show (before I decided to go wall-to-wall Carla).
	11:59am Uncle Michael: This wasn't the soul set?
	11:59am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the stunning escalator ride, @Doug. Viva Carla.
	12:00pm Doug Schulkind: OK, that made me cry, Uncle Michael.
	🥁 12:00pm doctorjazz: Hey, LG, just saw for 3 question (for a call from a friend canceling plans tomorrow due to COVID exposure). Will think one it.
	12:00pm Listener Gregory: Are the horns in the background essentially playing Haden's song Silence?
	12:01pm Rich in Washington: What a lovely show, Doug. As hard as it is for this music geek to admit, I was relatively unfamiliar with Bley's work up to now. Thank you so much.
	🥁 12:01pm doctorjazz: LG, I think you may be right (about the background), sharp ears!
	12:02pm Doug Schulkind: I cry easily. @Listener Gregory Must listen closer. I had to cut from this show a track from Ballad of the Fallen (but not Silence).
	12:02pm Ramblin' Ray: Good one Doug. Thanks.
	🥁 12:02pm PAULS: Nooooooooooooooooo! Never enough time. Great show, Doug
	12:02pm rw: Yes. Thank you Doug!
	🥁 12:03pm StringOFperils: This is what it sounds like When Dougs cry.
	🥁 12:03pm PAULS: Looking forward to that soul set next week!!
	12:03pm Listener Gregory: @SoP !
	🥁 12:04pm doctorjazz: Makes sense in a HADEN tribute piece... Thanks again, loved it Doug (I'd call it a soul show!)
	12:04pm WR: Thank you Doug.
	🥁 12:04pm bobdc: Doug, you put the TGI in TGIF!
	12:04pm Listening Out There: TY DS GTDS!
	12:05pm Doug Schulkind: Big thumping hearts of love to you all!
	12:06pm chresti: Thanks Doug!
	3:25pm Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "Vashkar" by "The Tony Williams Lifetime" I have loved this recording for YEARS and never knew it was a Carla Bley composition.

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September 3, 2021: Thank you Carla Bley, queen of the fucking universe!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Sarah Webster Fabio	Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues	Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues	Folkways	1976	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: ECD	In Tempo "In Tempo" by "ECD"	Major Force: The Original Art-Form	Mo' Wax	1990	0:04:12 (Pop-up)
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Paul Bley Quartet	O Plus One "O Plus One" by "Paul Bley Quartet"	Solemn Meditation	GNP Crescendo	1957	0:07:32 (Pop-up)
Jimmy Giuffre 3	Jesús Maria "Jesús Maria" by "Jimmy Giuffre 3"	Bremen & Stuttgart 1961	Emanem	1961	0:10:46 (Pop-up)
Don Ellis	Donkey "Donkey" by "Don Ellis"	Essence	Pacific Jazz	1962	0:18:17 (Pop-up)
George Russell	Zig Zag "Zig Zag" by "George Russell"	The Outer View	Riverside	1962	0:22:55 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: Lee "Scratch" Perry & The Upsetters	Black Panta	Upsetters 14 Dub Blackboard Jungle	Upsetter	1973	0:26:29 (Pop-up)
Art Farmer Quartet	Ad Infinitum "Ad Infinitum" by "Art Farmer Quartet"	Sing Me Softly of the Blues	Atlantic	1965	0:34:45 (Pop-up)
Attila Zoller	Ictus "Ictus" by "Attila Zoller"	The Horizond Beyond	EmArcy	1965	0:41:01 (Pop-up)
Mike Osborne	And Now the Queen "And Now the Queen" by "Mike Osborne"	Dawn	Cuneiform	1966	0:46:57 (Pop-up)
Gary Burton Quartet with Orchestra	Silent Spring	A Genuine Tong Funeral (Dark Opera Without Words)	RCA Victor	1967	0:50:16 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: Lee "Scratch" Perry & The Upsetters	Dreamland Skank	14 Dub Blackboard Jungle	Upsetter	1973	0:58:29 (Pop-up)
Paul Bley Trio	Seven "Seven" by "Paul Bley Trio"	Blood	Fontana	1966	1:05:20 (Pop-up)
Charlie Haden	The Ending to the First Side	Liberation Music Orchestra	Impulse!	1969	1:07:57 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley, Paul Haines	Song to Anything That Moves	Escalator Over the Hill	JCOA	1971	1:10:02 (Pop-up)
The Tony Williams Lifetime	Vashkar	Emergency!	Verve	1969	1:12:19 (Pop-up)
Mary Halvorson	Ida Lupino "Ida Lupino" by "Mary Halvorson"	Meltframe	Firehouse 12	2015	1:17:14 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley	Oni Puladi "Oni Puladi" by "Carla Bley"	Jazz Realities	Fontana	1966	1:21:30 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: Lee "Scratch" Perry & The Upsetters	Elephant Rock	14 Dub Blackboard Jungle	Upsetter	1973	1:26:53 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley	3/4 (for Piano and Orchestra)	13 and 3/4	WATT	1975	1:33:38 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: Lee "Scratch" Perry & The Upsetters	Jungle Jim	14 Dub Blackboard Jungle	Upsetter	1973	1:57:20 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley	I Hate to Sing "I Hate to Sing" by "Carla Bley"	I Hate to Sing	WATT	1981	2:03:57 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley	The Lord Is Listenin' to Ya, Hallelujah	Live!	WATT	1981	2:12:04 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley	Útviklingssang "Útviklingssang" by "Carla Bley"	Social Studies	WATT	1980	2:19:25 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: Lee "Scratch" Perry & The Upsetters	Upsetting Rhythm #3	14 Dub Blackboard Jungle	Upsetter	1973	2:26:04 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley, Andy Sheppard, Steve Swallow	Copycat I: After You	Life Goes On	ECM	2019	2:32:37 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley, Andy Sheppard, Steve Swallow	Copycat II: Follow the Leader	Life Goes On	ECM	2019	2:38:00 (Pop-up)
Carla Bley, Andy Sheppard, Steve Swallow	Copycat III: Copycat	Life Goes On	ECM	2019	2:38:19 (Pop-up)
Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra	Time/Life	Time/Life	Impulse!	2015	2:48:00 (Pop-up)
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Music behind DJ: John Lee Hooker	Stand By "Stand By" by "John Lee Hooker"	I Feel Good	Jewel	1970

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Listener comments!
	8:47am WR: I hope this program honoring Carla Bley is in no way a reflection of Bley's health and that at 85 she is still making music...
	8:50am Doug Schulkind: This is not a memorial. This is love.
	8:51am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Doug and all other listeners.
	8:53am Doug Schulkind: Hello, Andrew in Toronto and all other Andrews in Toronto.
	8:55am WR: Karen Mantler's web site for Carla and Steve is near impenetrable but at the same time very welcoming: www.wattxtrawatt.com
	8:56am Doug Schulkind: I adore that website.
	8:58am Andrew in Toronto: Let`s say a prayer from our hearts for our friends in New York, New Jersey and Louisiana please?
	🥁 9:01am StringOFperils: That is a fun website. Haven't seen it for eons. Grog Kill/WATT. Always a good thing.
	9:01am Listener Gregory: I did not see today's show coming.
	9:02am Doug Schulkind: Some cool links for great Carla content: Ethan Iverson interview (at Do the M@th): ethaniverson.com... John Doran interview (at The Quietus): thequietus.com... David Schroeder videotaped interview (with NYU Jazz Studies): youtu.be... The Long Rally interview (on WFMU): wfmu.org... Amy C Beal (biography): www.press.uillinois.edu...
	🥁 9:02am listener james from westwood: Good Friday, Doug and all!
	9:03am Doug Schulkind: Greetings, StringOFperils! Blind Listener Gregory! listener james from westwood!
	9:03am TDK60: Buenos dias, Doug. And "osda sunalei" too! That's Cherokee for good morning. Why not?
	🥁 9:03am StringOFperils: The last show I saw in NY, years ago, Carla Bley with Steve Swallow and Andy Shepherd at the Blue Note. Insanely long time ago.
	9:03am Doug Schulkind: All tongues welcome, TDK60!
	🥁 9:04am StringOFperils: Hi Doug, and Drumheads. Good morning!
	🥁 9:05am PAULS: Some people some people!!
	9:06am WR: Lady C weekend, yo.
	9:07am Webhamster Henry: Hi Doug! Looking forward to wallowing in Carla Bley's music.
	9:07am listener Rey: hello Doug and the GTDR community
	9:07am TDK60: I love the Marfa Office of WFMU. Very hip, those two desert DJs.
	9:08am Doug Schulkind: PAULS! Webhamster Henry! listener Rey!
	🥁 9:09am StringOFperils: @tdk60 > Agreed 100%. Terrific two programs issuing from Marfa TX. Reassuring radio.
	9:09am HyperDose: I just saw that on the schedule. She's definitely using her powers. The Force is indeed with Marfa 📡🥠📜
	9:09am Doug Schulkind: This song title, O Plus One is a joke on the musical nomenclature Opus One. A self-effacing name for basically your first tune to be performed publicly.
	🥁 9:10am βrian: Good Friday morning. Still slightly asleep.
	🥁 9:10am JtotheK: Hello - everyone!!!!!!
	9:11am Doug Schulkind: As long as your are entirely βrian. Hi hi hi, JtotheK!
	9:12am Doug Schulkind: Hi/perDose!
	🥁 9:12am bobdc: The Raybeats had a song called Andy's Plus One, which I assume was about them giving their friend Andy two guest list slots and him bringing a date that impressed them.
	9:12am Irene Trudel: Carla Bley!!! One of my favorite musical geniuses. Really looking forward to this tribute, Doug!
	9:13am Doug Schulkind: Glad you made it past the bouncer, bobdc. Howdy, Irene!!
	9:15am Gina Bacon: Morning, Doug & Frodayfolks!
	9:15am ausmanx: a rare and random visit, hope you're well, doug [and everyone]
	🥁 9:15am StringOFperils: I love Carla Bley's deadpan gallows sense of humor, when she writes, and when she speaks. Charles Addams-like. and of course, the humor is always in the arrangements too.
	9:15am Doug Schulkind: Gina Bacon yay! And whoa! ausmanx is here! Nice to read you, mate!
	🥁 9:15am dutchtheo: Howdy, Doug and drummers and drummerless trio's!
	9:17am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils Bley is so freaking funny! And she give even zeroer fucks than most. dutchtheo, in the howwwwse!
	9:18am Listener Gregory: I don't remember hearing "Jesús Maria" before. This is the best song you've played all day!
	9:19am Doug Schulkind: Bless you, Listener Gregory.
	🥁 9:19am PAULS: Love the Raybeats bobdc. I'm proud to call original member Pat Irwin a friend!
	🥁 9:19am StringOFperils: Here's to not giving a f*** while all the while demonstrating that you are, inarguably, not only right but in fact way ahead of the game.
	9:21am redkayak: Good morning all!
	9:22am Alex In Illinois: The first Carla Bley number that got me to buy an album was "Wrong Key Donkey"
	9:23am Alex In Illinois: I saw her perform in Grant Park ... years ago. Maybe it was ni the 1990s
	9:24am Alex In Illinois: I think it was a Jazz festival
	9:25am Doug Schulkind: Thanks for paddling over, redkayak! Heya, Alex in Illinois. Wrong Key Donkey and Donkey are actually the same tune.
	🥁 9:25am StringOFperils: In 1981, for a while I became obssessed with two albums; one was Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats, and the other was Carla Bley's TROPIC APPETITES. Tropic Appetites won out in the end. I love that freakin' LP.
	9:27am redkayak: @Doug - Ahoy captain!
	🥁 9:28am Artie: Right or wrong, a donkey's still a donkey. Unless it's a mule. Happy to have turned on the sub for the Don Ellis track. Also works for Mr. Perry's contribution.
	9:35am TDK60: She was a cigarette girl at Birdland! I wonder when that phenomenon died out.
	9:35am Andy Schwartz: Diggin' the show from Saugerties NY!
	9:36am ausmanx: i wonder if we can assume that if they'd had cigarette machines back in the day, we never would have had carla bley...
	9:37am Doug Schulkind: You wield a mighty trowel, Andy Schwartz! @Artie You'd have to be a complete ass to not like "Wrong Key Donkey."
	9:39am Doug Schulkind: Trying to fit Carla Bley's prolific career into three hours is a fool's errand. I'm a happy fool.
	9:40am Doug Schulkind: Steve Swallow on bass here with Art Farmer.
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Monster pianist Don Friedman here with Attila Zoller. The dude was performing, recording and teaching well into his 90s. Only just discovered him a few years, and I am ears over heels for his playing.
	9:43am Phillippe: Good morning
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: Bon jour, Phillippe!
	🥁 9:46am Brian in UK: Is this the Schulkind music Therapy Show?
	9:47am thedunkel: Good Morning Mr. Drummer! Good Morning All!
	9:47am TDK60: Hi Brian in UK.
	🥁 9:48am Brian in UK: Hello ausmanx, long time no 'see'. Still playing the in & out of Lockdown game downunder.
	9:48am Doug Schulkind: @Brian in UK Let the healing commence. So glad to see you, thedunkel!
	🥁 9:49am Brian in UK: Hello TDK60, keeping safe & dry?
	9:49am Flash Strap: good morning Doug and Drummers! deep love for Bley, recently been exploring the Tropic Appetites album
	9:50am ausmanx: hey brian, yep, though i'm luckier than most, can go back and forth to our little place in the mountains cos it's still in "Greater Sydney". but this is the lockdown we had to have, otherwise we wouldn't have bothered getting vaccinated! hope you're well there in the wilds of Shropshire
	9:50am Flash Strap: oh god yes i love Tong Funeral
	9:50am Matt Fiveash: Glad you're doing this, Doug, and glad Carla Bley is not dead! I am, as you know, fairly oblivious to most new releases, but Carla Bley/Steve Swallow/Andy Sheppard's 2020 album Life Goes On on ECM was brought to my attention via Ira's WFMU show and I was so knocked out that I went ahead and mail-ordered the LP. It proved to be one of a handful of albums that kept me from losing my shit during those lockdown months. Highly recommend if you haven't heard it yet.
	9:51am TDK60: Yes, thanks, Brian. The wind shook my walls that night. But okay, I live on a hill, in a building flights up.
	9:52am Doug Schulkind: @Flash Strap You are the second person present to mention Tropic Appetites. (Of course, it's one of the recordings that didn't make into my final show list.)
	9:53am Doug Schulkind: @Matt Fiveash!!! Always great to see your smiling, er, face. Life Goes On is miraculous. Listen for it in my closing set today.
	🥁 9:54am Brian in UK: ausmanx, being in the wilds of Shropshire is just fine & out of the way.
	🥁 9:54am StringOFperils: Interested in exploring Carla's lead sheets? Courtesy of WATT > www.wattxtrawatt.com...
	9:55am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils Thanks for posting that. That site just cracks me the fuck up. But it's serious business, too. A perfect encapsulation of Carla's whole "thing."
	🥁 9:56am StringOFperils: All websites should feature a Death Row
	🥁 9:57am Brian in UK: Flash Strap @ 9.50, please do not call the DJ god unless you have conclusive evidence. (think the English sense of humour might get lost in the ether here!)
	9:57am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils And all death rows should feature Scumbag Trump (as does that site).
	9:58am Matt Fiveash: Doug- well alright! xoxo
	9:58am Flash Strap: @Brian: Doug = Guod
	🥁 9:58am doctorjazz: Hello Drummers!
	🥁 9:59am doctorjazz: Carla Bley show! Wonderful! (I looked back and was reassured she didn't pass...)
	10:00am ausmanx: put the kettle on anyway, brian, i might get over there for a visit again some time in 2022
	10:00am Peter K.: Lovely show, and a more than worthy subject. I realize you have no need for requests, but it sure would be nice if the Tony Williams Lifetime's recording of "Spectrum" should find its way into your playlist.
	10:01am ARB: Beautiful first hour! Looking forward to knowing Carla better, thanks Doug!
	🥁 10:02am StringOFperils: The orange suit is on its way, Doug. Patience.
	🥁 10:03am StringOFperils: Hi Arb!
	10:03am Little Danny: Greetings Doug, all!
	🥁 10:04am Brian in UK: ausmanx, look forward to seeing you, anytime.
	10:06am Phillippe: Hey LD! Having a good vacation/staycation?
	🥁 10:07am StringOFperils: From Flarb-O-Scope to The Lone Arranger. We are WFMU-blessed.
	10:08am Ramblin' Ray: Hello Doug and fellow ear-wiggers.
	10:09am Doug Schulkind: That was a fricking sizzling show last night, ARB! @Peter K I was going to play "Vashkar" from that Tony Williams record. "Spectrum" is a John McLaughlin composition, no? Greets, Diminutive Daniel!
	10:11am ARB: Hi SOp! Thank you Doug!
	10:11am Doug Schulkind: "Spectrum" on the Tony Williams Lifetime record Emergency is credited to an "A. Hall," whom I believe is actually John McLaughlin.
	10:11am Doug Schulkind: Getting wiggy with it, Ramblin' Ray!
	10:13am Doug Schulkind: It's kinda of insane that I'm only playing one track from Escalator on the Hill (and a 2:22 track at that). I should be courtmartialed.
	🥁 10:14am PAULS: At least get yourself a jazz lawyer, Doug.
	🥁 10:15am bobdc: It's wild to see on en.wikipedia.org... that Phil Schaap remixed this Tony Williams album for CD in 1991. I really didn't think that fusion was his cup of tea.
	10:16am Doug Schulkind: Sometime during the next set or so, my magnificent daughter Lincoln will be heading off to begin her senior year in university. So there is happysadness amidst the joy.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: I was just checking her discography; you'd need multiple shows just to get to music recorded under her name... en.m.wikipedia.org...
	10:17am Doug Schulkind: @bobdc I did not know that. Would not have guessed it. @doctorjazz Carla could have her own 24-hour stream dedicated to her output.
	10:19am Doug Schulkind: Up next following Mary Halvorson's delectable rendering of "Ida Lupino," Carla will perform "Oni Puladi," a retrograde (reversed) version of the same song. Incredible.
	🥁 10:20am doctorjazz: This Halverson version it's great-can't think of other guitarists who could get such detail, yet sound so "chunky" at the same time, very cool!
	10:23am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz Actually, Mary Halvorson's nickname in junior high school was "Chunky"! No it wasn't.
	10:23am WR: The two versions together, so beautiful, literally tears hearing heres.
	🥁 10:23am doctorjazz: I wonder if Bley did the backward take out of frustration with getting it requested all the time (or overexposed by hearing so many covers of it).
	10:24am Listener Gregory: This sounds to me like much of the music is actually a reversed tape, rather than just playing the composition backwards. (The solo sounds forwards.)
	10:25am Doug Schulkind: @yrogerG renetsiL Very interesting observation.
	10:26am Peter K.: I screwed up, by the way -- I meant "Vashkar," not "Spectrum" (which is not a Bley composition). Sorry!
	10:26am TDK60: I first heard "Ida" from NRBQ, a vocal cover on their 1st, s/t LP, 1969.
	10:26am Listener Gregory: If the tape isn't being played backwards, then kudos to the horns doing the melody for getting that backwards-tape timing down.
	10:26am Peter K.: Which, of course, you played (while I was in a meeting).
	10:27am Doug Schulkind: @Peter K See my earlier comments!
	10:28am Little Danny: Thank you Phillippe, I am!
	10:34am Listener Gregory: Must show off my new knowledge by pointing out that Ursula Oppens was Julius Hemphill's wife. So, it all comes around in a big circle!
	10:36am Doug Schulkind: @TDK60 Yes! NRBQ's version!!
	10:38am Doug Schulkind: Links to some highly entertaining and wonderful interviews and such with Carla Bley: Ethan Iverson interview (at Do the M@th): ethaniverson.com... John Doran interview (at The Quietus): thequietus.com... David Schroeder videotaped interview (with NYU Jazz Studies): youtu.be... The Long Rally interview (on WFMU): wfmu.org... Amy C Beal (biography): www.press.uillinois.edu...
	10:38am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory You have complete license to show off here.
	🥁 10:39am doctorjazz: Somehow missed this album (love the Bley Big Band albums of the 70s, 80s, 90s,...)
	10:40am Jeff Golick: Along with her many musical gifts, I am grateful to her for letting her frizzy hair fly. Sincerely, Frizzled in Brooklyn
	10:40am Doug Schulkind: I am now faced with the dilemma of having to cut some tracks due to the fact that I've yapped too much. Will I never learn?!
	10:41am Little Danny: I really dig this.
	10:41am Doug Schulkind: @Jeff Golick Carla's hair! Just as fucking fabulous as everything else about her.
	10:42am Irene Trudel: Doug, that just means you'll have to do Carla Bley part 2 sometime.
	10:43am Rich in Washington: This is amazing Doug. I'm so glad you're doing Bley day.
	10:44am Doug Schulkind: @Irene Trudel And then Part 3 and Part 4 and... Part 87...and...and... @Rich in Washington Happy Bleyday to you, too!
	🥁 10:44am doctorjazz: I once read an interview with her in which she put down her early arranging, saying she didn't know what she was doing, learned and did it much better later (and she preferred the later arrangements). I have to say, she probably has some technical things she notices, but in so in love with her early arranging madness!
	🥁 10:45am doctorjazz: *I'm so in love...
	10:47am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz Bley is not one to look backward. There is always so much more onrushing to investigate. That said, she often does revisit older compositions. It would be interesting to study how never performances of older compositions differ in context of a matured approach.
	10:47am Listener Gregory: This 3/4 is very interesting!
	10:50am Doug Schulkind: That European music hall/oom-pah sound finds its way into so much of Carla's writing. She was larglely self-taught as a pianist (and totally self-taught as a composer), but her first influence was her father, Emil Borg, who was a Swiss (Swedish?) immigrant.
	10:51am Little Danny: Fascinating, Doug, I totally hear that.
	10:52am Doug Schulkind: Carla Bley was born Lovella May Borg.
	10:52am Doug Schulkind: Emil Borg was a church choirmaster in Oakland, California, when young Lovella was coming up.
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: Burlesque, wild, some emphasis on beat 2 and 4 (the oom-pah), much counterpoint, new things introduced out of nowhere, some craziness. She did smooth some of that over over the years (not that that was a bad thing, but the flavor mellowed a bit. Which, I suppose, many of us do over the years...)
	10:56am Listener Gregory: Warning: If you name your child Lovella May Borg, she will move to the city and become a "cigarette girl"!
	10:56am Doug Schulkind: @doctorjazz I believe Carla has suggested that melody has become more important to her.
	🥁 10:56am doctorjazz: Just ordered this on Discogs.
	🥁 10:59am doctorjazz: I don't mean to criticize, love the later stuff, groups with Steve Swallow, trios, etc, but observing the progression over time.
	11:01am solo mon: Good morning Doug and friends:-)
	🥁 11:01am sinner: Where's the coffee??
	11:03am solo mon: Adoration is important, we need to celebrate artists while they are living.
	11:03am Webhamster Henry: Usually if there's a 3 hour tribute, it's Yusuf Lateef.
	🥁 11:04am doctorjazz: I love this track!
	🥁 11:04am PAULS: coffee still in the bean...
	🥁 11:04am StringOFperils: D. Sharpe: Jonathan Richman's The Modern Lovers MKII drummer ALSO!
	11:04am Uncle Michael: I love to sing-a.
	🥁 11:05am doctorjazz: Part of the ooompa is that tuba...
	🥁 11:05am StringOFperils: Saw these guys do this @ the El Mocambo. Fantastic!
	🥁 11:05am bobdc: "I Hate to Sing" is not the first piece you've played today that reminds me of a Fellini soundtrack.
	11:05am Jeff Golick: I also hate to sing, I'm with Carla here. I'm reminded a bit of Braxton's foray's into that kind of tuba/march cadence.
	🥁 11:06am doctorjazz: Jealous, StringOFperils!
	11:07am Doug Schulkind: @solo mon That's exactly what I'm getting at! Nice touch of tango with this ditty. @bobdc I believe Carla would appreciate that observation. Speaking of love... it's Uncle Michael!
	11:07am Little Danny: Yeah I totally got Fellini soundtrack vibes from "3/4" as well
	11:07am Little Danny: Hi Solo!
	🥁 11:07am StringOFperils: @bobdc > She was working with Hal Willner around the same time...this is close to the era when her big band recorded music from Fellini's 8 1/2 for Willner's Fellini Amarcord tribute
	11:07am Doug Schulkind: According to Carla, all the other guys in her band were too fucking chicken to perform this number. D. Sharpe was the only one to step up.
	11:08am Little Danny: Wow, that is some solid intel, String-o
	🥁 11:08am PAULS: Or step IN, as it were.
	🥁 11:10am bobdc: Once you've been in Jonathan Richmann's band I guess you get braver about singing.
	11:10am solo mon: Nino Rota vibes, also cool about Hal wilner!
	11:10am Doug Schulkind: This is the project StringOFperils is referring to: www.discogs.com...
	🥁 11:11am doctorjazz: John Zorn's early jump cuts in genre, and The Microscopic Septet, likely were influenced by this stuff.
	11:11am spodiodi: good morning, Doug Schulkind! good morning, all!
	11:11am TDK60: Hmm, I never sang at a Fellini viewing. Next time..
	11:11am solo mon: Also Weimar cabaret vibes.
	🥁 11:12am doctorjazz: Ahhhh....
	11:12am Andrew in Toronto: Hi TDK60.
	11:13am Andrew in Toronto: Hello doctorjazz.
	11:13am Listener Gregory: I feel this was the golden era of Carla Bley.
	11:13am Doug Schulkind: Howdy, spodiodi! The outrageously wonderful Gary Valente on trombone here. For a while there he was also known as Carla's son-in-law.
	🥁 11:13am doctorjazz: Hi Andrew!
	🥁 11:13am StringOFperils: Yeah, there's Weill and Eisler in there too, solo. The best borrow from the best.
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: She did great things with these gospel chords (not to mention that trombone...)
	11:15am Doug Schulkind: Weill. Eisler. Rota. Morricone. Is it any wonder that Carla Bley has always been much more robustly received in Europe than in the U.S.A.?
	11:15am Listener Gregory: Doug, could I be known as your son-in-law? Or do you have to check with your kids?
	11:16am Doug Schulkind: Carla has had a thing for the trombone and the bass. So many huge talents have swirled in her orbit, but the trombones and the basses always seem to swirl closest to her sun.
	🥁 11:17am doctorjazz: Lovely Bley organ (perfect counterpoint to Valente)
	11:17am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory You can be known as my son outlaw. How's that suit you?
	11:18am Doug Schulkind: Up next, maybe possibly Carla Bley's most beautiful song.
	11:19am Listener Gregory: I don't know if I can live up to that one, but I'll try.
	🥁 11:19am StringOFperils: Those brass colours feature prominently in the sound, but it's everything. To actually watch her conduct her jazz orchestra is illuminating. Her specificity in a live situation comes through, and I felt that the band actually loved and respected her deeply; they'd do anything for her.
	🥁 11:19am PAULS: I glad you qualified that intro Doug, cuz that's a big bite...
	11:19am Franco Twinkie: A Carla Bley - Lee Scratch Perry mashup is how I like to get this holiday weekend off the ground.
	🥁 11:20am doctorjazz: I love this too (killing it, Doug!)
	11:20am Doug Schulkind: We may never come down, Franco Twinkie!
	🥁 11:20am StringOFperils: Howard Johnson, Arturo Farrell, oh man..what a band.
	11:21am Franco Twinkie: Let us float away Doug.
	🥁 11:21am doctorjazz: These albums from that period see just fabulous!
	11:22am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils It can't be understated just how many great but underknown artists received a regular paycheck as the result of Carla's employing them.
	🥁 11:22am PAULS: OK. This is beautiful.
	🥁 11:23am doctorjazz: So much for accomplishing anything (nice I have Fridays off now...)
	11:23am Doug Schulkind: Trombonist Gary Valente was from Boston. He recommended local drummer D. Sharpe to Carla. He also recommended Beantown saxist Tony Dagradi (heard here on tenor). She hired them on the spot based on Gary's word.
	11:24am chresti: Hi Drummer Doug and drummers!
	11:24am Doug Schulkind: chresti! hello!
	11:24am Listener Gregory: Trivia: Utviklingssang is Swedish for "escalator over the hill."
	11:24am Franco Twinkie: A perfect piece for this overcast morning in L.A.
	11:25am Doug Schulkind: More gorgeousness coming up. The last set might gorgeous your pants right off.
	11:25am chresti: Nice chatty avatar spodi \\//
	11:27am Ramblin' Ray: Utvikling = development
	11:29am spodiodi: good morning, chresti! thanks :D
	11:29am Alex In Illinois: Does D. Sharpe also go by the name of E. Flatt?
	🥁 11:29am StringOFperils: Carla's difficult-listening projects from the 70s are really interesting too. SILENCE, the Harold Pinter play inspired album, with Kevin Coyne and Robert Wyatt is so depressing that it's punk. The Hapless Child, the Edward Gorey themed project is also cool. She's great at undermining her own commercial potential....thank goodness.
	11:29am Franco Twinkie: This universe is unfair, brutal and uncaring that's how.
	11:33am Matt Fiveash: There it is! Magnificent.
	11:34am Doug Schulkind: @Alex in Illinois What sound do you hear when you drop a piano down a coal shaft? A flat miner.
	11:35am Doug Schulkind: @Matt Fiveash A shimmering wonder.
	11:35am chresti: Haha
	11:36am rw: Good morning! What a way to start the day.
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: Swallow sounding great!
	11:36am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils There is a whole prog/punk path I could have taken with this show. So many paths.
	🥁 11:38am StringOFperils: Your selections are, as always, astute Doug!
	🥁 11:38am doctorjazz: That's the bass that REALLY swirled closest to her sun.
	11:39am Listener Gregory: Doug, you took the path taken (by you), and that has made all the difference. This Copycat has a Sweet Georgia Brown source, I believe.
	11:39am Franco Twinkie: Ruminative was the right path Doug.
	11:39am Doug Schulkind: Happy to see you, rw! @doctorjazz Carla talks about how intensely Swallow works on his sound. From the type of cables and amp, to the fretboard and everything else. It is his entire universe.
	11:40am Andrew in Toronto: I`m scooting early again Doug. Please be kind! I have to take my dad to his optometrist appointment.
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Drummer denomination. Super show this morning!
	🥁 11:40am doctorjazz: And there is no other bass player that has his amazing sound.
	11:40am Listener Gregory: I was going to leave early to start my walk, but... I appear to be still here. Couldn't quite leave in the middle.
	11:41am Doug Schulkind: More heart-swelling sounds will come out of your radios if you stay tuned in to the Drummer Stream. Everybody's favorite Uncle is next!! Hinky Dinky Playlist: wfmu.org...
	11:41am Uncle Michael: yadda yadda yadda: wfmu.org...
	11:42am Doug Schulkind: @Listener Gregory I must gently insist that you stay for the end. The final piece is sublime.
	🥁 11:42am doctorjazz: (That's an audiophile tenet-cables and electronics effect the sounds of one's gear...)
	11:43am Listener Gregory: OK, will do jumping jacks instead of taking my hike. Ignore the thumps.
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Shades of the Paul Bley version of the Giuffre 3?
	🥁 11:44am doctorjazz: The trio with Sheppard and Swallow seemsto be her favorite vehicle of late.
	🥁 11:44am StringOFperils: Good to know how to tweak things to sound optimal for yourself, especially when you face an evening of playing at this level, while a room full of people eat dinner and drink as you pour your heart out
	11:45am rw: I used to get record catalogues from New Music Distribution Service as a teenager. Didn't realize NMDS was Carla Bley and Michael Mantler until recently. The last one I got I had to beg for and it came with a hand written note. I think they were struggling but they seemed very cool.
	11:45am Listener Gregory: Sweet Georgia Bley
	11:47am Doug Schulkind: @rw Oh man, NMDS. Their annual (semi-annual?) catalog was like my Bible. I would riff through the pages and plunk my finger down and buy shit randomly. All of it MASSIVE.
	11:47am Doug Schulkind: Carla talks of receiving the phone call from Charlie Haden's wife, Ruth, informing her that he had died. Carla was in her garden when she got the call. She told Ruth she needed to process it and would call her back later. She then moved to the piano and wrote "Time/Life" for Charlie. Here it is performed by Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra.
	11:49am rw: Yeah, Doug, same here. One of my regrets in life is that I didn't have more cash to spend on records back then!
	11:51am Doug Schulkind: @rw So painfully true!
	11:51am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, can you think of another trio with that instrumentation? Unusual to omit the drums in a jazz trio.
	11:52am Little Danny: Thank you Doug, only had a passing familiarity with Bley, really enjoyed this primer
	11:52am Doug Schulkind: OMIT THE DRUMS????!!!!!
	11:52am Doug Schulkind: @Little Danny So deeply much my pleasure.
	🥁 11:54am StringOFperils: Omit is her remit. The drums are simply arranged out, but they're present by implication....or something to that effect. The rhythmic push and pull of the arrangement is like a ghost rhythm section
	11:55am Doug Schulkind: @StringOFperils I'll buy that.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: @LG: Giuffre 3 with Steve Swallow and a different Bley?
	11:56am spodiodi: thank you, Doug!
	11:56am Uncle Michael: Amazing show today, Doug. Thank you for raising the bar.
	11:56am Doug Schulkind: Gonna go a couple minutes over into Hinky Dinky Time time. I will be sure to spank myself after the show.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: I'll meet you under the bar, @UM.
	11:57am Doug Schulkind: @Uncle Michael I'm usually the one closing the bar, amirite?!?!
	🥁 11:57am PAULS: Great image, Doug, thank you
	11:57am Uncle Michael: srsly
	11:57am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, good point, but that's way back in the 60s. Not so many, really.
	🥁 11:57am StringOFperils: Lovely to spend time this way. Dear dear Carla. Thanks Doug!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: I really needed this. Thanks a million Doug.
	11:57am Listener Gregory: Truly excellent show, Doug. Thanks a lot. And it's great to hear such a tribute when the artist is still alive.
	🥁 11:58am doctorjazz: Thanks fort he wonderful tribute, Doug!
	11:58am Doug Schulkind: Mostly I'm just glad to do the tribute while I'm still alive.
	🥁 11:58am dutchtheo: Thanks, Doug!
	11:59am Doug Schulkind: Can't wait to play for you the soul set I had been working on for today's show (before I decided to go wall-to-wall Carla).
	11:59am Uncle Michael: This wasn't the soul set?
	11:59am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the stunning escalator ride, @Doug. Viva Carla.
	12:00pm Doug Schulkind: OK, that made me cry, Uncle Michael.
	🥁 12:00pm doctorjazz: Hey, LG, just saw for 3 question (for a call from a friend canceling plans tomorrow due to COVID exposure). Will think one it.
	12:00pm Listener Gregory: Are the horns in the background essentially playing Haden's song Silence?
	12:01pm Rich in Washington: What a lovely show, Doug. As hard as it is for this music geek to admit, I was relatively unfamiliar with Bley's work up to now. Thank you so much.
	🥁 12:01pm doctorjazz: LG, I think you may be right (about the background), sharp ears!
	12:02pm Doug Schulkind: I cry easily. @Listener Gregory Must listen closer. I had to cut from this show a track from Ballad of the Fallen (but not Silence).
	12:02pm Ramblin' Ray: Good one Doug. Thanks.
	🥁 12:02pm PAULS: Nooooooooooooooooo! Never enough time. Great show, Doug
	12:02pm rw: Yes. Thank you Doug!
	🥁 12:03pm StringOFperils: This is what it sounds like When Dougs cry.
	🥁 12:03pm PAULS: Looking forward to that soul set next week!!
	12:03pm Listener Gregory: @SoP !
	🥁 12:04pm doctorjazz: Makes sense in a HADEN tribute piece... Thanks again, loved it Doug (I'd call it a soul show!)
	12:04pm WR: Thank you Doug.
	🥁 12:04pm bobdc: Doug, you put the TGI in TGIF!
	12:04pm Listening Out There: TY DS GTDS!
	12:05pm Doug Schulkind: Big thumping hearts of love to you all!
	12:06pm chresti: Thanks Doug!
	3:25pm Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "Vashkar" by "The Tony Williams Lifetime" I have loved this recording for YEARS and never knew it was a Carla Bley composition.

Give The Drummer Some with Doug Schulkind: Playlist from September 3, 2021

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