WFMU: Frame Duggy Louder with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from December 6, 2021

Listener comments!
	11:42am Paper Kosmonaut: Eerstst!!!!1!1!een!1!!!elf!!!!11!!!!
	🦝 11:54am Jan Turkenburg: haaai!
	12:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: Heilbot!!! (or another type of fish)
	12:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: Thanks for all the fish.
	🦝 12:01pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	🦝 12:02pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi everybody!
	12:06pm Paper Kosmonaut: I like a bit of spacy.
	12:06pm Paper Kosmonaut: Stammpot spruitjes here. With vegetarian gehaktballetjes.
	12:07pm Peter Gubbels: hallo all
	12:07pm Paper Kosmonaut: Heer Gubbels.
	🦝 12:07pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Peke! just in time! :-)
	12:09pm Peter Gubbels: hm, geen idee waarom ik niet meer peke ben hier by the way, lees uw messenger kben eigenlijk nét te laat :p
	12:09pm Peke: ah, kwas ni ingelogd
	🦝 12:10pm Jan Turkenburg: 'k moes nog eten, hè...
	12:11pm Otis: Top of the afternoon from snowy Montreal Jan and folks.
	12:11pm Otis: I brought my towel.
	🦝 12:11pm Jan Turkenburg: For the other listeners: a good man goes by many names: Pé = Peke = Peter Hi Otis!
	🦝 12:12pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	12:12pm Peke: the holy trinity
	12:14pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hellogello Otis.
	12:19pm Paper Kosmonaut: Roxy Music in da dub? Never heard this one before. Official stuff?
	🦝 12:20pm Jan Turkenburg: yep
	12:20pm Peke: gotta love DuB
	🦝 12:22pm Jan Turkenburg: But you can expect stuff like this from me in the near future, again. I've did some experimenting yesterday and immediately got the hang of it back.
	12:26pm Peke: l like this.... this feels almost like phillip Glass....
	🦝 12:27pm Jan Turkenburg: it ìs written by Philip Glass, but arranged for Cello Octet
	12:32pm Peke: wait, am l getting this right, are you gonna make dub versions yourself Jan?
	🦝 12:32pm Jan Turkenburg: I intend to do it, at least
	12:33pm Peke: that's awesome
	12:34pm Paper Kosmonaut: I expect a good raccoon lady dub one day.
	🦝 12:34pm Jan Turkenburg: That is very likely to happen, actually
	12:39pm Paper Kosmonaut: woah! vuâhwerrek in de Mellekweg!
	🦝 12:39pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	12:41pm Paper Kosmonaut: I have spent almost a year as conscientious refuser in The Hague. I picked up some Haags dialect. As you can read.
	🦝 12:42pm Jan Turkenburg: Aha! I didn't know that!
	12:43pm Paper Kosmonaut: Wasn't the best time of my life.
	12:46pm Peke: :-) Dank u Jan
	🦝 12:48pm Jan Turkenburg: Could you perhaps explain to our listeners what a "conscientious refuser" was and what exactly the penalty was?
	🦝 12:48pm Jan Turkenburg: Were you a "totaalweigeraar?"
	12:49pm Peke: een gewetensbezwaarde...
	🦝 12:50pm Jan Turkenburg: Did/do you have that in Belgium too, Peke?
	12:51pm Paper Kosmonaut: Why, yes, of course. Up until 1993-4 there was the draft in the Netherlands. You had to go into the army. in the 60's 70's that was about 18 months. So you actually learnt something. In the time I had to come up, 1993, it was reduced to 9 months. So the only thing you learnt wa how to be cannon fodder. Besides, I already had decided when i was 18, (1988) I wanted to refuse to go into the army. So I applied to be recognised as a conscientious refuser.
	12:52pm Peke: yup, we did
	12:52pm Domenic: Its "Conscientious objector" here in the USA. Refuser is nicer.
	🦝 12:53pm Jan Turkenburg: Did you do alternative community service, PK Or did you refuse that as well and did you have to go to jail? A friend of mine had to.
	🦝 12:53pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Domenic!
	12:53pm Paper Kosmonaut: When I had to start my civil service, the alternative which was one whole year (as a punishment bc you didn't want to play with guns) I had no choice where I could go. I was detached to Den Haag and worked there. I was put in a boarding house with bad food, and just had to leave my life in my city behind.
	12:54pm Paper Kosmonaut: I was not crazy. I think civil service was a reasonable alternative.
	12:54pm Paper Kosmonaut: The thing was you almost had no control over your whereabouts and what you could and couldn't do. So in that aspect it was like serving in the army.
	12:54pm Peke: l went to do my year in the army... biggest waste of time ever, and l had my ways to make sure they knew what kind of a man l was.... it resulted that l was not allowed to have a weapon .... :) ....
	🦝 12:55pm Jan Turkenburg: LOL, Peke!
	12:56pm Paper Kosmonaut: I think civil service (vervangende dienst) could have been a great job opportunity. Were it not for it being a 'punishment'. Which is stupid.
	12:56pm Peke: l wanted to do something about the rabbit infestation on the airstrip that l was stationned at.... They did not like that idea at all.
	12:56pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hahahaha! @ Peke!
	12:57pm Paper Kosmonaut: That is a better way to get away from it all than putting peanut butter between your buttocks at the medical and eat it.
	🦝 12:58pm Jan Turkenburg: I was "lucky" when I was called for duty I happen to be admitted in a psychiatric hospital. I applied for a medical re-examination. My doctor said: I can send a letter, but if you want a free trip to The Hague be my guest. Just tell them where you live at the moment, that will be enough.
	12:58pm Peke: they should have let me, if l'm not mistaken, a couple years later, there was an incident where an aircraft got damaged because of a (lightweighted) rabbit on the runway l had to refrain myself from writing a letter saying 'l told you so'....
	12:58pm Paper Kosmonaut: @ Jan: so you didn't even need the pindakaas-trick.
	1:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: I worked in the State Archives, that was the better part of the job. I just was the postman but I loved all the proof of historic facts and stuff I saw. Den Haag was Utter Hell.
	🦝 1:00pm Jan Turkenburg: So I went to The Hague for a day, combined it with a visit to a museum, a restaurant and a porn movie, the latter being one of the biggest deceptions in my life.
	1:02pm Domenic: Don't see my galaxy pictured yet....
	1:05pm Paper Kosmonaut: IWhile working in the National Archives, I have held in my bare hands (no white gloves): - Pacificatie van Gent (nl.wikipedia.org...) - notebooks of Johan de Witt (en.wikipedia.org...) - the death sentence of Balthasar Gerards (nl.wikipedia.org...) and I have touched the Vrede van Munster. (nl.wikipedia.org...) So that was nice.
	1:07pm Mr Fab: beaming down! Ahoy, Jan. I'm curious, what was deceptive about the porn theater? They were actually holding church services or something?
	🦝 1:08pm Jan Turkenburg: Mr Fab, it was the cheapest of cheap productions I saw and they just played it in a loop, so you just fell in the middle of the "story".
	🦝 1:10pm Jan Turkenburg: The most exciting thing I remember was buying the ticket from a femal counter clerk about my age....
	1:11pm Paper Kosmonaut: That sounds as the beginning of the plot of a good Porn movie...
	1:12pm Mr Fab: PK: ha!
	1:15pm Paper Kosmonaut: Porn: always watch it for the plot. Angrily write the producers when the story shows plot holes. Example of good plot (SFW): www.youtube.com...
	🦝 1:16pm Jan Turkenburg: @ Domenic, is there a Domenic Galaxy, or cluster?
	1:19pm Domenic: LOL a really big galaxy... LOL
	1:20pm Paper Kosmonaut: (SFW in the sense that is not showing any real porn. NSFW where lingerie isn't SFW)
	1:21pm Paper Kosmonaut: Okay next subject.
	🦝 1:21pm Jan Turkenburg: hahahahahahahahaha
	1:21pm Domenic: Noticed you started with "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"...Reminded me there is a theory that Betelgeuse is going to explode soon. But not a hyperspace highway...
	1:23pm Paper Kosmonaut: @ Domenic: I t already might have happened... Betelgeuse is 500-800 light years away.
	🦝 1:23pm Jan Turkenburg: Ah, PK you beat me to it...
	1:23pm Paper Kosmonaut: Which means we see the star like it was about 5-800 years ago.
	1:25pm Paper Kosmonaut: Even when the sun suddenly would explode we would notice 8 minutes later.
	🦝 1:26pm Jan Turkenburg: So all of us, except John Miles have 8 minutes left anyway?
	1:28pm Paper Kosmonaut: John "one hit wonder" Miles, you mean? What a dragon of a tune, that was. Een draak van een deun.
	🦝 1:31pm Jan Turkenburg: In retrospect, yes, but at the time I was 10 years old, I really thought it was amazing. Now I love Jan Rot's version of it. It's 32 seconds long :-) :-)
	1:33pm Paper Kosmonaut: Haha! Dat wassem al weer! Lang genoeg.
	1:34pm Paper Kosmonaut: Nice live intermezzo.
	1:38pm Feldy: Hello Jan, Paper Kosmonaut, Dom, Fab, Peke
	🦝 1:40pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Feldy!
	1:44pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hey Adam!
	1:46pm Paper Kosmonaut: That were Aimee Mann and Ben Folds backing the Shat. I love Aimee Mann.
	1:48pm Domenic: That's great. He has to hire to the best.
	1:55pm Otis: Thanks for the selections to work by today Jan!
	1:55pm Domenic: Last night we went over to friends who had the Apple TV. and we watched the 1st 2 hours of Foundation. They are hooked.
	1:56pm Domenic: thanks for a quick trip thru tie and space Jan!
	1:57pm Paper Kosmonaut: Very varied, differing and diverse tunes. Thanks Jan!

Frame Duggy Louder with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from December 6, 2021

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December 6, 2021: FDL365 Duggy's Guide To The Galaxies

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Artist	Track	Approx. start time
Intro	Excerpt "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" radio show	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Simon Fisher Turner	Jazz "Jazz" by "Simon Fisher Turner"	0:01:47 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Simon Fisher Turner	Classical Piano	0:04:03 (Pop-up)
Pé en de Medeklinkers	Volxverhuis	0:07:21 (Pop-up)
Dominic Gomez	Given to the land "Given to the land" by "Dominic Gomez"	0:14:29 (Pop-up)
Roxy Music	Love is the drug (Todd Terje Disco Dub)	0:17:52 (Pop-up)
Cello Octet Conjunto Ibérico	Emigration (Glass)	0:24:30 (Pop-up)
Tito Puente, Tony Vega & Tito Nieves	Come together	0:26:22 (Pop-up)
Godley & Creme	Marciano (Racoon mix)	0:32:17 (Pop-up)
Simon Fisher Turner	Pearl Diver "Pearl Diver" by "Simon Fisher Turner"	0:35:34 (Pop-up)
Pé en de Medeklinkers	Het problémeke in mijnen hof	0:42:58 (Pop-up)
Dominic Gomez	Cold Winter Wind "Cold Winter Wind" by "Dominic Gomez"	0:46:31 (Pop-up)
Futureboy 5000	Duck and Cover "Duck and Cover" by "Futureboy 5000"	0:48:39 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	I'm Deranged (jungle mix)	0:52:27 (Pop-up)
Frank Zappa	What Ever Happened to All the Fun in the World	0:59:20 (Pop-up)
Boudewijn de Groot	Glazen Stilte "Glazen Stilte" by "Boudewijn de Groot"	0:59:51 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Georges Delerue	La Valse de Francois T.	1:01:51 (Pop-up)
Excalibur	Don't Look Backwards "Don't Look Backwards" by "Excalibur"	1:05:38 (Pop-up)
Dominic Gomez	Today, The Sun "Today, The Sun" by "Dominic Gomez"	1:10:12 (Pop-up)
Björk	Declare Independence "Declare Independence" by "Björk"	1:13:09 (Pop-up)
Bonzo Dog Band	Humanoid Boogie "Humanoid Boogie" by "Bonzo Dog Band"	1:17:50 (Pop-up)
Shirley Scott	Rapid Shave "Rapid Shave" by "Shirley Scott"	1:20:41 (Pop-up)
Chenard Walcker	The Bottle "The Bottle" by "Chenard Walcker"	1:29:13 (Pop-up)
Firma Weijland	Nat Heur "Nat Heur" by "Firma Weijland"	1:32:40 (Pop-up)
Roger Waters	Hilda's Hair "Hilda's Hair" by "Roger Waters"	1:36:12 (Pop-up)
William Shatner	That's Me Trying "That's Me Trying" by "William Shatner"	1:40:23 (Pop-up)
Dominic Gomez	Alchemist and alchemist	1:43:56 (Pop-up)
Slagerij van Kampen	Vic Falls Revisited	1:46:04 (Pop-up)
Bradley's Circus	Record Machine "Record Machine" by "Bradley's Circus"	1:51:03 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Manfred Hübler & Siegfried Schwab	Necronomania	1:54:04 (Pop-up)
Aafke Romeijn	Afstandsbediening "Afstandsbediening" by "Aafke Romeijn"	1:56:02 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	11:42am Paper Kosmonaut: Eerstst!!!!1!1!een!1!!!elf!!!!11!!!!
	🦝 11:54am Jan Turkenburg: haaai!
	12:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: Heilbot!!! (or another type of fish)
	12:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: Thanks for all the fish.
	🦝 12:01pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	🦝 12:02pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi everybody!
	12:06pm Paper Kosmonaut: I like a bit of spacy.
	12:06pm Paper Kosmonaut: Stammpot spruitjes here. With vegetarian gehaktballetjes.
	12:07pm Peter Gubbels: hallo all
	12:07pm Paper Kosmonaut: Heer Gubbels.
	🦝 12:07pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Peke! just in time! :-)
	12:09pm Peter Gubbels: hm, geen idee waarom ik niet meer peke ben hier by the way, lees uw messenger kben eigenlijk nét te laat :p
	12:09pm Peke: ah, kwas ni ingelogd
	🦝 12:10pm Jan Turkenburg: 'k moes nog eten, hè...
	12:11pm Otis: Top of the afternoon from snowy Montreal Jan and folks.
	12:11pm Otis: I brought my towel.
	🦝 12:11pm Jan Turkenburg: For the other listeners: a good man goes by many names: Pé = Peke = Peter Hi Otis!
	🦝 12:12pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	12:12pm Peke: the holy trinity
	12:14pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hellogello Otis.
	12:19pm Paper Kosmonaut: Roxy Music in da dub? Never heard this one before. Official stuff?
	🦝 12:20pm Jan Turkenburg: yep
	12:20pm Peke: gotta love DuB
	🦝 12:22pm Jan Turkenburg: But you can expect stuff like this from me in the near future, again. I've did some experimenting yesterday and immediately got the hang of it back.
	12:26pm Peke: l like this.... this feels almost like phillip Glass....
	🦝 12:27pm Jan Turkenburg: it ìs written by Philip Glass, but arranged for Cello Octet
	12:32pm Peke: wait, am l getting this right, are you gonna make dub versions yourself Jan?
	🦝 12:32pm Jan Turkenburg: I intend to do it, at least
	12:33pm Peke: that's awesome
	12:34pm Paper Kosmonaut: I expect a good raccoon lady dub one day.
	🦝 12:34pm Jan Turkenburg: That is very likely to happen, actually
	12:39pm Paper Kosmonaut: woah! vuâhwerrek in de Mellekweg!
	🦝 12:39pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	12:41pm Paper Kosmonaut: I have spent almost a year as conscientious refuser in The Hague. I picked up some Haags dialect. As you can read.
	🦝 12:42pm Jan Turkenburg: Aha! I didn't know that!
	12:43pm Paper Kosmonaut: Wasn't the best time of my life.
	12:46pm Peke: :-) Dank u Jan
	🦝 12:48pm Jan Turkenburg: Could you perhaps explain to our listeners what a "conscientious refuser" was and what exactly the penalty was?
	🦝 12:48pm Jan Turkenburg: Were you a "totaalweigeraar?"
	12:49pm Peke: een gewetensbezwaarde...
	🦝 12:50pm Jan Turkenburg: Did/do you have that in Belgium too, Peke?
	12:51pm Paper Kosmonaut: Why, yes, of course. Up until 1993-4 there was the draft in the Netherlands. You had to go into the army. in the 60's 70's that was about 18 months. So you actually learnt something. In the time I had to come up, 1993, it was reduced to 9 months. So the only thing you learnt wa how to be cannon fodder. Besides, I already had decided when i was 18, (1988) I wanted to refuse to go into the army. So I applied to be recognised as a conscientious refuser.
	12:52pm Peke: yup, we did
	12:52pm Domenic: Its "Conscientious objector" here in the USA. Refuser is nicer.
	🦝 12:53pm Jan Turkenburg: Did you do alternative community service, PK Or did you refuse that as well and did you have to go to jail? A friend of mine had to.
	🦝 12:53pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Domenic!
	12:53pm Paper Kosmonaut: When I had to start my civil service, the alternative which was one whole year (as a punishment bc you didn't want to play with guns) I had no choice where I could go. I was detached to Den Haag and worked there. I was put in a boarding house with bad food, and just had to leave my life in my city behind.
	12:54pm Paper Kosmonaut: I was not crazy. I think civil service was a reasonable alternative.
	12:54pm Paper Kosmonaut: The thing was you almost had no control over your whereabouts and what you could and couldn't do. So in that aspect it was like serving in the army.
	12:54pm Peke: l went to do my year in the army... biggest waste of time ever, and l had my ways to make sure they knew what kind of a man l was.... it resulted that l was not allowed to have a weapon .... :) ....
	🦝 12:55pm Jan Turkenburg: LOL, Peke!
	12:56pm Paper Kosmonaut: I think civil service (vervangende dienst) could have been a great job opportunity. Were it not for it being a 'punishment'. Which is stupid.
	12:56pm Peke: l wanted to do something about the rabbit infestation on the airstrip that l was stationned at.... They did not like that idea at all.
	12:56pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hahahaha! @ Peke!
	12:57pm Paper Kosmonaut: That is a better way to get away from it all than putting peanut butter between your buttocks at the medical and eat it.
	🦝 12:58pm Jan Turkenburg: I was "lucky" when I was called for duty I happen to be admitted in a psychiatric hospital. I applied for a medical re-examination. My doctor said: I can send a letter, but if you want a free trip to The Hague be my guest. Just tell them where you live at the moment, that will be enough.
	12:58pm Peke: they should have let me, if l'm not mistaken, a couple years later, there was an incident where an aircraft got damaged because of a (lightweighted) rabbit on the runway l had to refrain myself from writing a letter saying 'l told you so'....
	12:58pm Paper Kosmonaut: @ Jan: so you didn't even need the pindakaas-trick.
	1:00pm Paper Kosmonaut: I worked in the State Archives, that was the better part of the job. I just was the postman but I loved all the proof of historic facts and stuff I saw. Den Haag was Utter Hell.
	🦝 1:00pm Jan Turkenburg: So I went to The Hague for a day, combined it with a visit to a museum, a restaurant and a porn movie, the latter being one of the biggest deceptions in my life.
	1:02pm Domenic: Don't see my galaxy pictured yet....
	1:05pm Paper Kosmonaut: IWhile working in the National Archives, I have held in my bare hands (no white gloves): - Pacificatie van Gent (nl.wikipedia.org...) - notebooks of Johan de Witt (en.wikipedia.org...) - the death sentence of Balthasar Gerards (nl.wikipedia.org...) and I have touched the Vrede van Munster. (nl.wikipedia.org...) So that was nice.
	1:07pm Mr Fab: beaming down! Ahoy, Jan. I'm curious, what was deceptive about the porn theater? They were actually holding church services or something?
	🦝 1:08pm Jan Turkenburg: Mr Fab, it was the cheapest of cheap productions I saw and they just played it in a loop, so you just fell in the middle of the "story".
	🦝 1:10pm Jan Turkenburg: The most exciting thing I remember was buying the ticket from a femal counter clerk about my age....
	1:11pm Paper Kosmonaut: That sounds as the beginning of the plot of a good Porn movie...
	1:12pm Mr Fab: PK: ha!
	1:15pm Paper Kosmonaut: Porn: always watch it for the plot. Angrily write the producers when the story shows plot holes. Example of good plot (SFW): www.youtube.com...
	🦝 1:16pm Jan Turkenburg: @ Domenic, is there a Domenic Galaxy, or cluster?
	1:19pm Domenic: LOL a really big galaxy... LOL
	1:20pm Paper Kosmonaut: (SFW in the sense that is not showing any real porn. NSFW where lingerie isn't SFW)
	1:21pm Paper Kosmonaut: Okay next subject.
	🦝 1:21pm Jan Turkenburg: hahahahahahahahaha
	1:21pm Domenic: Noticed you started with "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"...Reminded me there is a theory that Betelgeuse is going to explode soon. But not a hyperspace highway...
	1:23pm Paper Kosmonaut: @ Domenic: I t already might have happened... Betelgeuse is 500-800 light years away.
	🦝 1:23pm Jan Turkenburg: Ah, PK you beat me to it...
	1:23pm Paper Kosmonaut: Which means we see the star like it was about 5-800 years ago.
	1:25pm Paper Kosmonaut: Even when the sun suddenly would explode we would notice 8 minutes later.
	🦝 1:26pm Jan Turkenburg: So all of us, except John Miles have 8 minutes left anyway?
	1:28pm Paper Kosmonaut: John "one hit wonder" Miles, you mean? What a dragon of a tune, that was. Een draak van een deun.
	🦝 1:31pm Jan Turkenburg: In retrospect, yes, but at the time I was 10 years old, I really thought it was amazing. Now I love Jan Rot's version of it. It's 32 seconds long :-) :-)
	1:33pm Paper Kosmonaut: Haha! Dat wassem al weer! Lang genoeg.
	1:34pm Paper Kosmonaut: Nice live intermezzo.
	1:38pm Feldy: Hello Jan, Paper Kosmonaut, Dom, Fab, Peke
	🦝 1:40pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Feldy!
	1:44pm Paper Kosmonaut: Hey Adam!
	1:46pm Paper Kosmonaut: That were Aimee Mann and Ben Folds backing the Shat. I love Aimee Mann.
	1:48pm Domenic: That's great. He has to hire to the best.
	1:55pm Otis: Thanks for the selections to work by today Jan!
	1:55pm Domenic: Last night we went over to friends who had the Apple TV. and we watched the 1st 2 hours of Foundation. They are hooked.
	1:56pm Domenic: thanks for a quick trip thru tie and space Jan!
	1:57pm Paper Kosmonaut: Very varied, differing and diverse tunes. Thanks Jan!

Frame Duggy Louder with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from December 6, 2021

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