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Favoriting December 16, 2021: 'The function of art is to do more than tell it like it is – it’s to imagine what is possible' bell hooks RIP, with guest David Suisman, author of 'Selling Sounds'

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments New Approx. start time
Grachan Moncur III  evolution   Favoriting evolution            0:00:00 (Pop-up)
užupis  weird sisters   Favoriting dirt  wollesonic        *   0:12:10 (Pop-up)
The Lounge Lizards  The First and Royal Queen   Favoriting queen of all ears            0:18:41 (Pop-up)
amir elsaffar  march   Favoriting rivers of sound  outhere        *   0:22:30 (Pop-up)
marcos valle  gotta love again ( kaidi tathum remix)   Favoriting Remixes JID010  jazz is dead        *   0:28:24 (Pop-up)
 
we are frank chickens  mothra   Favoriting We Are Frank Chickens            0:40:06 (Pop-up)
Brrds  One Day All This Will Be A Memory   Favoriting liminal space  bungalow ranch        *   0:45:11 (Pop-up)
postal service  such great heights   Favoriting such great heights            0:49:38 (Pop-up)
Helado Negro  aureole   Favoriting far in  4AD        *   0:54:43 (Pop-up)
tuxedomoon  driving to verdun   Favoriting minimal compact benjamin lew, aksak maboul tuxedomoon  crammed discss        *   1:01:34 (Pop-up)
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anika  finger pies   Favoriting change  sacred bones        *   1:07:48 (Pop-up)
sylvia  the notion   Favoriting sweet stuff  wewantsounds  1975/20212      *   1:11:48 (Pop-up)
oby onyioha  enjoy your life   Favoriting i want to feel your love            1:15:18 (Pop-up)
Bobbi Humphrey  smiling faces sometimes   Favoriting dig this!            1:21:25 (Pop-up)
major lance  i wanna make up ( before we break up)   Favoriting Can I Be a Witness: Stax Southern Groove            1:28:34 (Pop-up)
brandee younger  reclamation   Favoriting somewhere different          *   1:31:56 (Pop-up)
 
david suisman interview                1:41:19 (Pop-up)
vernon dalhart  after the ball   Favoriting             1:55:09 (Pop-up)
david suisman interview                1:58:58 (Pop-up)
sid hemphill's band  after the ball is over   Favoriting             2:00:12 (Pop-up)
david suisman interview                2:02:40 (Pop-up)
arthur collins  everybody's doing it now   Favoriting             2:14:17 (Pop-up)
caruso  la donna e mobile   Favoriting 2000            2:16:25 (Pop-up)
caruso  otello   Favoriting verdi arias            2:26:36 (Pop-up)
david suisman interview                2:33:38 (Pop-up)
Ethel Waters  down home blues   Favoriting   black swan          2:35:47 (Pop-up)
david suisman interview            author of Selling Sounds, the commercial revolution in american music    2:39:04 (Pop-up)
firestone 7"                2:43:39 (Pop-up)
carroll clark  nobody knows the trouble i've seen   Favoriting   black swan          2:48:51 (Pop-up)
private charles bowens  christmas in vietnam   Favoriting       7"      2:51:49 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Trouble:

if you don't know the work of the amazing writer bell hooks, here might be a place to start your research: msmagazine.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
Handy Haversack:

Rest in power. Thanks for this, Trouble.

Also: hello! To Trouble and all the Troubled.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
listener james from westwood:

Morning, Trouble and all!
Avatar 9:01am
Fredericks:

Like the drumming on this one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
steveo:

listening
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am
Trouble:

good morning thursday world!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:03am
YETI BOB:

I concur with Grachan Moncur! (this is awesome)
  9:04am
Irene:

Good morning Trouble and all Modern Worldly people! Nice piece to start the day as I do the alternate side parking shuffle.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
PizzaWolf:

into this doom jazz vibe
  9:04am
Emily:

Xoxo
Avatar 9:07am
TDK60:

Good morning, Trouble. RIP, bell hooks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am
Trouble:

hola mlle emily!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:08am
Dances with Moomins:

Morning Trouble & Troubled, a nice grey afternoon in Turku. Dark early these days, clouds sudding past the moon in the eastern skies and it's just past 4! Cheers
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:08am
YETI BOB:

this was recorded in 1963 but if you told me it was from this year I'd believe you
  9:08am
rx scabin:

Hello.
Avatar 9:09am
Juli:

GREAAAT stretching music lol
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:09am
YETI BOB:

yeah it stretches your brain :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Peter in SEA:

Good morning Trouble and all, I just might make it to winter break...
Avatar 9:10am
Juli:

While you stretch your body parts lol that are connected to the brain but yes also that too


And This Too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
Trouble:

good luck @ peter! i am feeling your pain...counting down the hours.
  9:11am
Mike W.:

Surveying the field, watching for goose maneuvers
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am
Handy Haversack:

Good luck, Irene! I'll be out sitting in the car for the TomDash-Bryce changeover tomorrow.

Morning, TDK60, Mike W. The geese are what they seem.
Avatar 9:13am
Juli:

I am usually doing that thinking business too haha
While most things, it stretches and reaches haha
Avatar 9:14am
Juli:

I think while I stretch
I think while I eat

Hehe this could be a children’s book haha
Avatar 9:15am
Juli:

Glorious things are coming your waaaay hehe
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:16am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble unlimited.
Avatar 9:20am
TDK60:

Handy, hello.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

The John Lurie memoir was one of the best things I read this year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am
Trouble:

i like that trouble unlimited moniker, might have to change my nom de plume, nom de guerre, nom de disc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am
Pale Son:

So sad to hear about bell hooks. Good morning, all! Snow is gently falling on the northern flicker perched outside my window.
Avatar 9:22am
Juli:

RIP :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am
Stephen O:

Hey, I was painting with John for a minute there. Thanks for that Trouble.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am
Peter in SEA:

@pale son, sweet image, they do love their suet, don't they! :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
Handy Haversack:

Honestly a little jealous, Pale Son. 62F today in NYC.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
Peter in SEA:

@Trouble, we'll make it! We always do. ;-/
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
steveo:

pretending a flicker is not a bird, and reading as a poetic take on the winter sunlight
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
Pale Son:

@Peter This is the first year I've seen one, but it keeps coming back. Very cute!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
steveo:

thanks for the ms link; r.i.p (and p)
Avatar 9:27am
oshiwoshi:

ooh - this has flavours of film noir
  9:36am
MplsCoco:

Morning Trouble!! Love listening to you on a Thursday morning 🌞
  9:38am
TerrDE:

speaking of Music business, Bruce just sold out for half a billion
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:40am
Dances with Moomins:

Mothra!
  9:40am
TerrDE:

Robin Williams covers the song
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@TerrDE: I understand why he did it but man, not looking forward to hearing Thunder Road during an SUV ad.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
listener james from westwood:

MO
SU
RA
!!!
Avatar 9:42am
oshiwoshi:

was privileged to host japanese american toy theatre of london performance of double indemnity back in the day
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
melinda:

hi all
  9:42am
TerrDE:

yep, tens of millions isn't enough ?
Avatar 9:42am
TDK60:

oshiwoshi, Sure it wasn't at night?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Trouble:

i guess i am mispronouncing mothra...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Trouble:

merci @ MplsCoco!
@dances with moomins : we are enjoying our moomin advent calendar this year!
Avatar 9:44am
oshiwoshi:

it was at night! you are correct!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

we are frank chickens sounds like the caption of a Kliban comic.
  9:45am
TerrDE:

I thought it was going to be the summoning song from the movie. Mothra like Godzilla is female
Avatar 9:50am
Juli:

Did you just put on Postal Service hehe
Avatar 9:51am
Anton:

Breaking my comment hiatus to comment: yasssssssssssssssssssssss
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
Pale Son:

Wow, haven't heard this in such a long time. Still sounds pretty sweet.
Avatar 9:54am
john eck:

Hi Trouble, this song reminds me of the show you did for the anniversary of the moon landing. That was such a great show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am
listener james from westwood:

@trouble: Apologies, if you took my note @9:41 as pronunciation guidance; totally not intended! Just singing along as it were to the Peanuts' if not the Chickens' tune.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56am
Trouble:

thank you@john eck. i do love doing a moon landing mix...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:57am
Trouble:

@listener james: no apologies needed: i was listening to the frank chickens say it and suddenly it had 3 syllables.
  10:03am
prudy:

thanks for honoring bell hooks, Trouble. RIP
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am
Pale Son:

Speaking of moons... Love these guys and they're so rarely heard!
  10:04am
prudy:

Woods: when was Lurie memoir published...I totally missed it...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@prudy: August. The History of Bones.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:09am
katie:

I LOVE that picture of her. Ain't I a woman and Teaching to transgress!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am
Trouble:

lurie autobio is brand new! they have them at little city books in hoboken. i hope santa brings me a copy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am
Adrian in London:

Hi Trouble, greetings from Plague Island!
  10:10am
eva:

“all about love” life changing for me. rest in power-bell hooks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am
Trouble:

ugh. we will be there soon enough...@adrian.
  Swag For Life Member 10:10am
Andrea:

Hi all! oh bell hooks...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Trouble: We watched an online book release talk. Q&A at the end was the usual thing and then a question: "Nesrin seems like a really nice person. What's it like to work with her" ....he thinks for a bit and then looks off camera..."Wait...was that you?" Nesrin posted the question. Those two are hilarious.
  Swag For Life Member 10:16am
Zinn The Mood:

My favorite show. Listening, though distractedly.

Felt dizzy with despair last night over the fate of and deeply disturbing non-interest in the insanely brutal treatment of Julian Assange.

Was at the rally on Monday in front of the UK consulate. All the stalwarts were there: Roger Waters, Katie Halper, Randy Credico, Susan Sarandon. But beyond maybe the half dozen of us and a few independent media lenses there wasn’t anybody else. Nobody seems to give a fuck, even as the implications are so staggeringly immense. Problem is so many have been conditioned by the MSM propaganda defamation. (PSA: If you know of others who have been, here’s a really good and comprehensive link covering most of the situation: p-node.org... )

Was just beginning to read the Dream Hampton piece on her when I decided to pop in (before wanting to confirm the author was, I believe, the daughter of assassinated Black Panther Fred Hampton).

Greetings to all!

Besides the non-coverage also of the Maxwell case there haven’t been two more consequential stories in many years than the two mentioned that warrant the attention and participation of all thinking and caring people!

The music allows us to dream of a better world, that we know exists. Upon which we must act. With the music inspiring our actions…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am
Trouble:

@ woods: i love nesrin, she's a sweetheart.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
Greg from ZONE 5:

Morning, Trouble & all!
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:26am
Dances with Moomins:

nice smilin faces
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Juli:

Hello Zinnnnnn, Trouble, Greg, Woods of NH, Andreaaa and everyone else hehe

That is nice Zinn heeh is it Bell Hooks? or Your writing?
  10:26am
eva:

thank goodness for music! spin it-trouble!
Avatar 10:27am
Juli:

HAha
haHA

No one gives a fuck
Hehe
Avatar 10:28am
Juli:

HEhe

I need to rhyme that. "Yes y'all
No one gives = s a FUCK"


Haha nice and harsh like I like it hehe
Avatar 10:30am
oshiwoshi:

SCREW WORK - I HAVE TO TURN THIS up
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Time for the daily standup. I hate the standup on Thursday. OK, every day but still...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am
Greg from ZONE 5:

Been loving this new Brandee Younger, but then everything she does is magic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am
Handy Haversack:

Now picturing Woods in front of a brick wall, spotlit, mic stand in hand. "I'm not saying work is stupid, but ..."

Zinn, thank you for that link and the update. Are there more protests planned? Where is information about them posted (please don't say social media!)?
  Swag For Life Member 10:35am
Zinn The Mood:

if it were bell hooks it would have all been lower case lettering…

(You should read “nobody seems to give a fuck” in George Carlin’s voice, particularly from his ultra-brilliant “It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it” piece)
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:36am
YETI BOB:

Handy: You're lucky you've never been on a team using the "Agile Methodology", it's horrible! Scrums and standups and a lot of wasted time and energy. Sorry Woods!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Handy: I tried that at a poetry slam...it didn't go over well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am
Handy Haversack:

Agile is pretty much the opposite of my industry. I wish they'd start realizing that that's a feature, not a bug. Move slowly, and don't break things.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Stories and tasks and parking lots and sprint planning and spring review and this and that and the other thing. Yeesh.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:38am
YETI BOB:

After many years of that kind of BS I now have a job with 1 meeting per week, which is great. It does interfere with "Random Road" a bit but whatchagunadu?
  10:39am
??:

I believe there is strong evidence that Assange helped the Russians and Trump campaign with a timed leak... though that's not what he is in trouble for, I believe...
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:39am
karlward:

If you're looking for a way to protect actual journalists, consider donating to the Committee to Protect Journalists: cpj.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am
listener james from westwood:

David S! Inner Ear Detour champ!
Avatar 10:40am
Roberto:

A weakly DJ?
  10:40am
dario:

bike riding listening to your great sets
Avatar 10:41am
Juli:

What Wow What
!!

Haha ok nicely
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:41am
karlward:

Or donate to the Freedom of the Press Foundation: freedom.press
Avatar 10:41am
Juli:

What Wow What sounds like a Gameshow or Song Title lol hmmmm
Avatar 10:42am
Juli:

Gameshow hehe

Anywho I need writers to write w
Avatar 10:42am
Juli:

Possibly an Editor?
Avatar 10:43am
Juli:

Shh wait I cannot hear the interview or discussion I don't know what is going on brb
  10:43am
pp:

Inner Ear Detour was one of my early fave WFMU shows, will check out the book.
Avatar 10:44am
Juli:

:Sheet Music is worthwhile:
Avatar 10:44am
Roberto:

David's show was on air during my alternate-side-parking days ca. 2004-05. I spent a lot of time sitting in the car listening!
  Swag For Life Member 10:50am
Zinn The Mood:

Hey 2H!
I despise social media also, and exert a lot of energy avoiding it, almost always reaching for a book instead. Can’t remember how I heard…was it WBAI, maybe it actually was a fortuitous glance at Twitter based on “following” the right people, think maybe it was Margaret Kimberley of Black Agenda Report..

As I’m sure you’re aware of there’s absolutely no coverage whatsoever in the media. Just fucking staggering, that. Chilling. Totally Orwellian.

Don’t know of what’s next in the near future. Check in occasionally online with folks like Katie Halper and the aforementioned.

Randy Credico did a really good interview with the host of the RT show “Going Underground.” Included was a potent clip of William Kunstler, whose wife incidentally was there at the rally, speaking about how the elites who conspire behind the scenes to destroy truth-tellers, hide behind the public’s fealty to conditioned concepts of “law and order” and justice being “served” to persuade them to think the process is fair and therefore should be trusted (will look up link for you).
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:51am
Barney Grubbs:

We picked up an old piano when we bought a house in the early 2000s, and the bench was full of sheet music of pop music dating at least back to the 40s. It is an amazing snap shot of one person's musical tastes (And 50 cents for "It's Only a Paper Moon" from 1953 seems expensive for 5 pages of music)
Avatar 10:52am
Juli:

!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am
Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Zinn!
  10:52am
?:

anyone help me pls! what was playing 9:58ish ?? kinda like stereolab remixed
  Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Zinn The Mood:

@??
You’ve just repeated the great slanderous lie propagated by the MSM.

Please see: greenwald.substack.com...
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Zipperhead7:

I wonder, as our physical interaction -w- music recordings decreases (from 78s to streaming), and programmability increases, music is increasingly about user self-reflection rather than artistic self-expression?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I'd hate to hear "Thunder Road" during a car ad. On the other hand, I _might_ crack up hearing "The Rising" during a Viagra ad.
  Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Zinn The Mood:

@HH

“Analysis of Assange Show Trial”
youtu.be...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00am
Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Zinn.

This (via Olivia's newsletter) is a pretty chilling vision of the future of music as labels and rights-holding companies acquire more and more of our musical legacy: thebaffler.com...
  11:02am
Moira Cohn:

how bout this version by irish singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAd6-YWdPQ
  Swag For Life Member 11:04am
Zinn The Mood:

Fascinating conversation, Trouble. Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06am
Bimbus Bambus:

Spoo Pee Doo isn't a Kwanza song??
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Listening Out There:

Ergo, the Brill Building...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Bimbus Bambus: !!!!! Ha.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:11am
Barney Grubbs:

there have been some interesting discussions of the history of irish ballad broadsheets etc. on the excellent Fire Draw Near podcast: soundcloud.com...
  11:12am
Mike W.:

schooling the fuck out of these geese on cultural capital
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I am totally going to need this book.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am
Handy Haversack:

Mike W., see if you can get transcription and digital-reproduction rights to their honks!
  11:18am
??:

@Zinn--I think the fundamental question is if Wikileaks can be considered "Press." Seems to me they just dump illegally acquired info
  11:18am
Mike W.:

Very little feedback from them @Handy, they were rapt. Caruso has now evoked one funny look.
  11:19am
NotOnTV:

Does anyone remember the movie with the modern guy who thinks he's Jesus and they ballroom dance to this...(that), La Donna e Mobile
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20am
Handy Haversack:

I hope to evoke that much one day.
  Swag For Life Member 11:23am
Zinn The Mood:

When I was a kid just into jr high I went into the cool record store a few towns away. Thought I was reciting the chorus to a funky hard rock riff I loved, by asking if they had a single called “Talk This Way.” The clerk’s reaction was a knowing smirky smile. Which probably endeared me to him, but I was red-faced as a budding music obsessed adolescent.

Man, on a related note…there was such a charm and wondrous longing in hearing a song on the radio and then grasping for fragments of it in your mind until you could find it again. Shazam, my ass. It was simultaneously a frustrating challenge and rewarding longing for that elusive tune. Sort of a similar feeling one had as a teenager pining for one’s girlfriend, “absence makes the heart grow fonder,” etc.

Can’t imagine how it is today to be a young person but to never have had that feeling of missing someone, when everyone’s in constant, unending communication at all hours via texting and social media.
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Listening Out There:

Early phonographs were made by furniture companies. Some early recordings were made the same companies, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Don't make fun of my audio equipment.
  11:26am
AZ Dave:

Re the monkey, Jane Goodall likes to say that everyone who keeps a chimpanzee as a pet sooner or later decides they no longer want to keep a chimpanzee as a pet.
  11:28am
Elizabeth:

Popping in from central Mexico just to say how wonderful it is to hear all this Caruso... especially from his early years as more of a baritone. Thank you Trouble
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:29am
Zipperhead7:

Victor's rival, Edison, emphasized audio quality rather than Victor's emphasis on stars like Caruso. Edison staked his device’s reputation on its fidelity, its exact replication of the original performance, a poignant claim given Edison’s hearing loss: he was known to sink his teeth into the base of the phonograph as a record played in order to better hear certain frequencies
  11:31am
Elizabeth:

@zipperhead wow.
  11:31am
?:

do you people realize what's happening? is it because there's an element of cultural psychic revenge that its acceptable even encouraged? wow
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I have an Edison player. It's kinda fun.
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oshiwoshi:

@Zinn The Mood: yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am
Bimbus Bambus:

lol at Trouble referencing mp3s and Walkmans like it's 2001
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Juli:

Just listening and cleaning :}::}}}}
  11:42am
morphe':

Just tuned in and thought it was Rob Weisberg speaking????
  11:43am
timinoak:

Great interview. Thank you.
  11:45am
morphe':

X-Ray Burns' father had a TV/Audio(???) shop in Kearney?
  Swag For Life Member 11:48am
Zinn The Mood:

(Apologies to Trouble, and all others who already know this…)

Wikileaks are not hackers; they are revolutionary repository designed to create a safe haven for whistleblowers to have their documents published anonymously. Wiki, and Julian, were internationally lauded and partnered with The NY Times, Guardian etc for doing the vital journalism of exposing governmental corruption across the globe.

They didn’t hack the DNC. They were presented with inside communications, of which you came read #PodestaEmails, the authenticity of which has never been disputed. Which also, as in the “Collateral Damage” videos provided by Chelsea Manning, have not resulted in the personal danger of any military personnel (another irresponsible and slanderous lie. Of which recently reared its
ugly head again, with the odious and disgraceful promulgation of practically the whole war chest full of lies by MSNBC dumbbell instigator Joe Scarborough and Claire McCaskill recently, which was vigorous refuted by among others, Taibbi/Halper and Greenwald this week).

Please listen to the links above addressed to HH.

Lastly, here’s the key paragraph from Greenwald about the motivations of the US liberal establishment:

“The Obama DOJ had spent years trying to concoct charges against Assange using a Grand Jury investigation, but ultimately concluded back in 2013 that prosecuting him would pose too great a threat to press freedom. But the Biden administration appears to have no such qualms, and The New York Times made clear exactly why they are so eager to see Assange in prison:

‘Democrats like the new Biden team are no fan of Mr. Assange, whose publication in 2016 of Democratic emails stolen by Russia aided Donald J. Trump’s narrow victory over Hillary Clinton.’

In other words, the Biden administration is eager to see Assange punished and silenced for life not out of any national security concerns but instead due to a thirst for vengeance over the role he played in publishing documents during the 2016 election that reflected poorly on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. Those documents published by WikiLeaks revealed widespread corruption at the DNC, specifically revealing how they cheated in order to help Clinton stave off a surprisingly robust primary challenge from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). WikiLeaks’ reporting led to the resignation of the top five DNC officials, including its then-Chair, Rep. Debbie Wassserman Schultz (D-FL). Democratic luminaries such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Al Gore’s 2000 campaign chair Donna Brazile both said, in the wake of WikiLeak’s reporting, that the DNC cheated to help Clinton.”

Hope this illuminates some of it for you.

(Apologies again, Trouble!)
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Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

One big reason I'm very passionate about fighting car dependency. Nobody should be forced to take on enormous debt just to be able to get from place to place, especially something that comes with a ton of negative externalities. That is not freedom.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:50am
Zipperhead7:

Great interview. Gotta get this book!
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, Rosey! Long time, no see! Hope you're doing well.
  11:52am
Actually:

@zinn That was an excellent summary of the facts

Just deleted a lesser comment that didn’t work as well.

Been great hearing David again today. Thx Trouble.
  11:53am
JakeGould:

If Wikileaks is so wonderful, how come they have never presented documents connected to the GOP or others? Why is it consistently anti-DNC stuff?

Given the extent of Drumpf corruption, the fact that Wikileaks has nothing on any of that speaks volumes.

Wikileaks is a patsy for foreign influence in the U.S. There is no balance to their “leaks.”
  11:55am
JakeGould:

“… played in publishing documents during the 2016 election that reflected poorly on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.”

What you are describing are efforts to place Drumpf in office that has lead to what positively? Let to a fascist in power and led to the January 6th insurrection.

The Clintons might be corrupt, but Drumpf was/is worse and at no moment did Wikileaks ever expose that guy.
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radioronan:

This was great, thanks Trouble!
  11:56am
JakeGould:

Anyway, thank you Trouble!

And power to all.
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Handy Haversack:

That went so fast! Thanks, Trouble! And thanks, David!

Stay Troubled, everyone.
  11:58am
Another Patrick from Hoboken:

Just tuning into you this morning, sounds great; will listen in full in the archive later! Thank you Trouble!
  11:59am
Brendan:

Thanks for this!
  11:59am
morphe':

Private Charles Bowen info:

Harlem 1969: The Future of Soul
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McGroovey:

@JakeGould Of course, let's not forget that Trump's flaws are obvious and well-known. We know he lies, because we've seen him do it it public. We know he's abused women, and we have everything but the pictures. We know he has contempt for democracy itself. And yet, people are totally willing to ignore those facts. It's not clear what secrets WikiLeaks could ever reveal about Trump that we don't already know.
  12:00pm
morphe':

Thanks T. and all !!!!!
  12:30pm
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