WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from December 19, 2021

Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: early start. hello!
	9:00am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Hello hyde.
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Yoooooooooo, @hyde, @listener james from westwood, @Andrew in Toronto! Greetings.
	🥁 9:02am hyde: that "I'm going shopping" XMas song on the stream before the show was weirding me out
	9:02am fred: Greetings Jeff and all
	9:03am JtotheK: Hi! Seasonal Greeting everyone!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: @fred!!!
	9:03am Listener Gregory: Greetings, perfect men and women of Earth.
	9:06am Listener Robert: Thanks for this story. I had no idea of the show's origin.
	9:09am TDK60: Good morning, Jeff. Didn't know this show had a blog in its background. I recall Greg Tate's writing from the old Village Voice. Lost track of him later.
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Hello and hi, @JtotheK! And @Listener Gregory! And @Listener Robert! And @TDK60 (archives still up at destination-out.com)
	9:14am fred: Could there be a Jeff-squared show in the near future?
	9:14am TDK60: Jeff, there's plenty of text info in that Bandcamp page for Burnt Sugar, but I can't seem to find the personnel..
	9:15am Jeff Golick: I'm hoping Jeff J. stops by the comments today, @fred! As for a Jeffx2 show...we do have the techmology!
	9:15am alanr: Back in the cold north (or south brooklyn). Much appreciate the focus of today's program.
	9:16am zzz: good morning DJ JG and all, RIP to Mr Tate thanks for this tribute and looking forward to it
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Glad to have you here, @alanr! G'moning, @zzz!
	9:18am zzz: jewel in the lotus = top 5 ECM release (for me)
	🥁 9:19am WR: Hello Jeff and outies. Seems I missed the origin story, thank WFMU for the archive.
	9:19am Jeff Golick: @TDK60, re personnel, there's this - "over those two decades the personnel has also evolved from gig to gig, disc to disc. There are, of course, a handful of regulars: Greg Tate, Jared Michael Nickerson, Avram Fefer, ‘Moist’ Paula Henderson, Ben Tyree, Satch Hoyt and André Lassalle."
	9:20am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @WR! @zzz: completely agree. And for the longest time, never available on CD. Tate's writing absolutely hipped us to this one, and many, many others.
	9:23am TDK60: I also didn't know, or just forgot, that Tate helped start the Black Rock Coalition with Vernon Reid and others.
	9:25am listener james from westwood: Rufus and Chaka!
	9:27am zzz: yup. my CD’s cover isn’t the one posted here or as nice looking. it’s in the more austere minimal ECM style, not this colorful one w the lotus and mail in, i assume is the original. but yeah was thrilled to see it pop up on cd. was wondering the link to tate
	9:28am zzz: *mail in = maupin !
	9:28am StringOFperils: Good morning Jeff! Something this black and hawt must surely be telling me to get up and make coffee. So be it. Whoooosh....
	9:29am TDK60: This Chaka K/Rufus cut was one of the better songs on the radio that year!
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StringOFperils!
	9:30am Listener Gregory: I think the first Burnt Sugar record was my introduction to Vijay Ayer. A later disc introduced me to Matana Roberts.
	🥁 9:31am duke: Good morning D:Oers
	9:32am Listener Gregory: This Ulmer performance is wild!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @zzz, whenever possible, I try to show the first version of any album cover here (not representative of any version I may or may not even own).
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @duke!
	9:37am zzz: always love the title “jazz is the teacher, funk is the preacher.” man that was ripping. Black Rock indeed
	🥁 9:40am Listener Gregory: I have that song on a number of records, but not like that.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: Greg Tate specifically writes about that version of the Ulmer song.
	🥁 9:42am doctorjazz: Hey Ho, D. O!!!
	9:42am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Nice to be. Hear.
	9:43am Andres: Good morning! Came for relentless holiday music. Staying for the Parliament!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: @Sir Doug! Check your funk pressure!
	9:45am Jeff Golick: @Andres! Yeah, we are suspending holiday music in favor of a remembrance of Greg Tate.
	9:45am zzz: ooooooohhhh. opening of black satin… every damn time.
	9:47am Jeff Golick: Jingle bells in effect, I suppose.
	9:47am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Songs with Christmas bells: The Creator Has a Master Plan This Miles Davis cut keep it going…
	9:48am zzz: track is so good. feel like this is still (?) underrated electric miles, but may be the best (?!) in the right mood/context i guess
	9:49am listener james from westwood: Missy aw yissy
	9:50am zzz: perfect pairing/segue
	🥁 9:52am Listener Gregory: I left my freak at the office. Dammit!
	9:52am Jeff Golick: @zzz, thanks. Not gonna lie: was really pleased with that one.
	9:53am listener james from westwood: Easy to forget this track is 20 y old, although the turn-of-the-millennium album art is a definite tell.
	9:55am zzz: yes! @JfW
	9:55am TDK60: Sly & Robbie did a cover of Miles' Black Satin. And RIP Robbie Shakespeare.
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Oh I'd like to hear that @TDK60!
	9:56am chresti coffee freak: ! Morning Jeff and freaky freaks!
	9:56am Jeff Golick: @chresti!
	9:56am fred: @ljfw: That ball with protruding spikes kinda looks topical though
	9:58am zzz: omg fred
	🥁 10:05am hyde: i went to see the Bad Brains twice. One was a no show. The other time they were 7 hours late. (I left before they appeared)
	10:05am TDK60: B.B. Maybe the first hardcore record or among the first. On cassette only at first.
	🥁 10:06am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: I may have heard Greg Tate when he was on the air at the Pacifica station in D.C., WPFW, which I listened to fairly constantly during my last two years of high school. If I did, I don't remember hearing specifically him. My radio hero on WFPW was Jimmy Gray, whose radio show was Black Fire. (Gray founded the record label Black Fire that recorded Oneness of Juju and others.) Like Tate, Jimmy Gray had first done a show over at Howard University's station, WHUR.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: @TDK60 i still have the cassette!
	🥁 10:09am Listener Gregory: Let's give the drummer some on this Jimi cut.
	10:12am Stork: Just joining in after a long winter's nap. Holy crap, what a playlist!! Let me join in the funk!
	10:13am zzz: i was just listening to this comp yesterday @Doug. great stuff on Black Fire black-fire.bandcamp.com...
	10:13am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that excellent context, @Doug!
	10:13am Jeff Golick: Funk yeah, @Stork!
	10:14am Jeff Golick: Buddy Miles! = drummer.
	10:15am Stephen O: Good morning, Jeff and FMU family. As always, spiritually, emotionally and intellectually full thanks to you.
	10:16am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Stephen O! Thanks for sharing that.
	10:17am fred: I think it's the first time I heard Machine Gun. I only knew the Isley Brothers version. So thanks for that
	10:18am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @fred! This was a New Year's Eve show, btw.
	10:19am TDK60: I attended the last of those four Gypsys' Fillmore shows. I was 19.
	10:20am zzz: welcome to the ‘70s. that’s cool @TDK!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @TDK60!
	10:21am TDK60: I sometimes still have to drop my jaw.
	10:22am zzz: must have seen some other wild shows at fillmore east around then
	🥁 10:24am hyde: @TDK wow
	10:26am Jeff Golick: Joe Manchin has a small brain.
	10:29am TDK60: zzz: Only a few. / DJ JG: if he "only had a heart."
	10:29am Jeff J: Hey all! So good to hear "Beat Bop," Basquiat on the controls-- or at least on the checkbook. Hope Greg Tate's Basquiat bio someday sees the light of day.
	10:30am Jeff Golick: @TDK60, yeah. Pretty sure it's just a lump of coal.
	10:30am Jeff Golick: Heeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy, JEFF J!
	🥁 10:31am chresti: TDK60 is a Head \\//
	10:32am Ike: Hi all!
	10:33am TDK60: zzz: I saw Fleetwood Mac and Savoy Brown at the Fillmore East. I was expecting blues but FMac was doing their Kiln House LP, they'd gone rock. Savoy B was still BritIsh Blooz tho. \| Chresti out westy.
	10:33am Jeff Golick: Good mornin', @Ike!
	🥁 10:34am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: This is the radio show we all needed so much more than we could ever know.
	10:35am Jeff J: I'd forgotten that Beastie Boys "b-boy making with the freak freak" from Ill Communication was referencing this tune
	10:35am zzz: when hip hop songs could be/were 10 minutes of fire. speaking of original record covers @Jeff G.
	10:36am Jeff Golick: @Jeff J: LOTTA source material in some of these selections. (e.g., Urge Overkill via Parliament)
	10:36am zzz: yeah @jeff J, heard that, hah.
	10:37am Jeff J: Greg Tate on the great "gothic futurist" Rammellzee, his music and visual artwork: afrovisionary.tumblr.com...
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: Beat Bop was fun (been here for a while, just listening in bed, Me. c. t. And Williams nice pairing!
	10:40am Jeff J: Good lord, that Tony Williams artwork. Love that you bought a record with that cover and heard this when you put it on.
	🥁 10:41am Listener Gregory: I think I knew this existed, once upon a time.
	10:42am Jeff Golick: When you put it on, you heard Jan Hammer and Tony. This comes at the very end of the record!
	10:43am Jeff J: @Jeff Golick - Shame there was never a full Cecil Taylor and Tony Williams duo album.
	🥁 10:43am Listener Gregory: I don't think the diversity of approaches on this record was approved of at the time.
	🥁 10:43am hyde: between this and the Stork Club tribute, i sure do regret selling a bunch of my Tony Williams records in the 80's
	🥁 10:44am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Holy moly, forgot all about that CT revelation. Haven't listened to this in crazy years!
	10:44am Stork: One of the many records I neglected in last week's TW trib. Great choice, Jeff!
	10:44am listener james from westwood: wu wu wu
	🥁 10:44am hyde: i love this record sooooooo much
	10:45am Jeff Golick: @JJ: that would have been epic.
	10:52am Jeff J: Greg Tate on PE: www.villagevoice.com...
	🥁 10:53am doctorjazz: I was just looking at the Village Voice obit...
	10:54am Jeff Golick: The amount of information in this PE number is insane.
	🥁 10:54am doctorjazz: www.villagevoice.com...
	10:54am Jeff J: This track still slays
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: Read Tate regularly in the Voice back then.
	10:56am TDK60: What a set, Jeff!
	10:57am Jeff J: @doctorjazz The Voice kindly opened their archives and there's a lot of Tate articles you can read for free. Still a ton of his writing for them that isn't available, but it's a good start.
	🥁 11:00am Listener Gregory: For any Basquiat fans, there are a lot of reminiscences about him in John Lurie's "The History of Bones." They are all highly colored by his heavy drug use at the time, but they were apparently very close.
	11:01am Jeff J: Thanks @ListenerGregory! How did you like the Lurie book overall?
	11:03am Jeff J: Djinji = Marion Brown's son. Tate writes in detail about this track in his collection "Flyboy 2"
	🥁 11:04am Listener Gregory: @Jeff J, My feelings are pretty mixed. He did his best to be honest, but there is a negative tone to almost all of his experiences, and it's hard to tell how much is him and how much is in fact the reality of the music business, the movie business, the art business, NYC in the pre-Giuliani days, etc. Sometimes he recognizes that he only has his own perspective and memories, but sometimes not. It's all very vivid and easy to read, though.
	🥁 11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo! Enuff WiFis for I expect a short / intermittent time...
	11:09am Jeff J: @Listener Gregory Thanks for the rundown. A shame it's so negative, though he does seem like a guy who nurses a grduge, at least from the interviews I've read over the years. He certainly was smack in the middle of a fascinating music/art/film scene tho.
	11:10am Jeff Golick: Kind of a wild grouping of people on this Marion Brown piece: Anthony Braxton, Jack Gregg, Billy Malone, William Green, Andrew Cyrille, Larry Curtis, Chick Corea, Bennie Maupin, Jeanne Lee, Gayle Palmore
	11:10am john eck: Hello Jeff and fellow OUTliers! Protect ya neck
	11:10am Jeff Golick: Greetings and welcome, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 (apprope avatar for this one) and @john eck!
	11:11am Jeff J: This must've been an early ECM they licensed but didn't produce -- like Bennie Maupin's Jewel.
	🥁 11:12am Listener Gregory: @Jeff J, a lot of people in the arts operated on no money and so lied and cut corners a lot to get their products done (or their club open or their art sold, etc.). To be fair, Lurie freely admits to his own shenanigans (or some of them).
	🥁 11:13am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Heard a bit about Tate & PE on NPR...
	11:14am Jeff Golick: @JJ: definitely -- it's the fourth ECM record in the catalog.
	🥁 11:16am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...was FreshAir I think...
	11:19am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff
	🥁 11:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Happy Solstice ! ...Daylight @ least doesn't get much shorter in the Northern Hemisphere...
	11:20am Jeff Golick: and to you, @coelacanth∅!
	11:20am Jeff J: Greg Tate talking about Butch Morris and conduction, if anyone wants a deeper dive: blackfeb.com...
	🥁 11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (Solstice in ~2 days)
	11:21am Jeff J: @Rev Rabbit Thanks for the NPR tip about Tate and PE
	11:22am spodiodi: god morning, Jeff!
	11:24am spodiodi: good* holy typo!
	11:25am Jeff Golick: God morning to you, too, @spodiodi!
	🥁 11:25am chresti: Moaning, spodi!\\//
	🥁 11:26am chresti: *morning
	11:26am spodiodi: allo, allo, and god moaning, chresti\\//
	🥁 11:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Of course, Tate was most articulate about the value of HipHop (truly it was giving voice to realities nearly nothing else was), & the resistance to it - & in terms of PE, the shortsightedness of some of it. Interesting with homophobia for instance - I think parallel to Guns&Roses in Rawk - on the street level one has to be wary of unwelcome advances - issues of consent & of Class - while as mass media messengers be aware also of bigotry. Things I can relate to from both sides. Perhaps we have advanced there one hopes...
	🥁 11:28am Listener Gregory: Unfortunately, I have to leave the memorial service a bit early, to try to scrape the frozen crust off my walk and car. Excellent tribute, Jeff! A lot of work went into it, I can tell.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @LG. Jeff & I appreciate that! Happy scraping.
	11:32am TDK60: Hi spodi, Revrab. Happy short days.
	🥁 11:32am doctorjazz: Heading out as well, thanks, Jeff!
	11:33am Jeff J: Thanks @Listener Gregory! It was fun to put this together. Every tune has a direct link to Tate's work and it was nice to revisit those pieces. Plus pay tribute to someone whose writing enriched our lives in countless ways.
	🥁 11:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's still even Miles I'm not familiar with yet. What a wonderful mysterious world...
	11:33am spodiodi: aloha, TDK60 \\//. thanks and same to you (i'm excited for them getting longer)
	11:33am Jeff Golick: Take care, @doc!
	🥁 11:34am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeffs, shoulda said.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: Here's more than any reasonable person might want to learn about "He Loved Him Madly," and how it was put together: plosin.com...
	🥁 11:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. That's like Beatlefreak level minutiae.
	11:39am Jeff J: Tate on "He Loved Him Madly": "A wake held in honor of Ellington, ambient music for the hereafter. Its colors, moods, and textures derive from Tibet, India, Micronesia, and Memphis. The three guitars favor sitars and soul band strokes; Miles' organ smears remind one of Tibetan harmonium voicings, while Henderson's bass sinks to lows as gut-plummeting as those in gamelan music. Across this aural sarcophagus, Miles' horn sobs and hobbles like a bereaved widown in a shroud. Beyond mourning Duke, the piece seems to suffer more from wanting to join him in the afterlife."
	11:40am Jeff Golick: Beautiful. (Duke Ellington had passed away the month prior to this recording in June 1974.)
	🥁 11:41am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'aural sarcophagus' - in a few sentences Tate's gifts are evident.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: "He Loved Him Madly" is cut A1 on this record. Miles' trumpet is first heard 15 minutes into the track.
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Where'd you find that Tate quotation, @JJ?
	11:46am zzz: wow Jeff J @11:39. i was aware of this being an Ellington tribute, but that quote really changes and elevates my hearing of this piece
	🥁 11:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Miles on organ? Like the alap in a raga? Seems to me that a primary value of Music is that it is not speech. It is from other lobes of the brain. Since, however, Homo sapiens is as inherently Verbal as we are Musical, it becomes sometimes necessary to articulate about it. 'It's hard to drink from a well you're well into.'
	11:49am Jeff J: @zzz Tate had a gift for doing just that. His essays on Miles Davis's electric music of the 1970s in Flyboy on the Buttermilk rearranged my thinking on that period + gave me a better vocabulary to think and talk about it.
	11:49am Jeff J: @Jeff Golick It's in the Electric Miles essays from Flyboy in the Buttermilk. Scripture!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Wondering where to go next? Stork Club opens soon: wfmu.org... -- looks like a Barry Harris tribute awaits (inter alia).
	11:50am spodiodi: love that, RevRabbit
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @JJ.
	🥁 11:50am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so it's a startling & actually integrative thing for someone to really be able to do that ...when Music is so immediate & immersive - & so powerful without one even catching the number of the vehicle that ran us over...
	11:50am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for another excellent show!!
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Our pleasure, @Andrew in Toronto, despite the sad circumstances. Thanks for being here, as ever.
	🥁 11:53am WR: Back from shopping errands. Looking at the playlist to review what I've been listening to. Some old favorites, some new to me, particularly Burnt Sugar, which seems to be at the center of the focus of today's episode. Many thanks. Will still be listening but not back on the screen for an hour or two. And then I will have all the reading from the links y'all shared to catch up on. Laters all. Onward.
	11:53am Jeff J: Thanks @Andrew in Toronto!
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Take care, @WR!
	11:55am TDK60: Thanks DJ Jeff G. for the special show.
	🥁 11:56am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: We loved him, and this epic broadcast, madly.
	🥁 11:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...as in Vodoun, if the Loa has a message for the one actually possessed, he says - 'Tell My Horse'...
	11:57am john eck: I’ve never heard this one before. It’s awesome. Thanks for the show, Jeff!
	11:57am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks, and thanks to co-pilot Jeff Jackson for this one.
	11:58am zzz: thanks so much Jeff G, and Jeff J, for this great tribute and show
	11:58am spodiodi: thank you too, Jeff J!
	🥁 11:58am hyde: double thanks to the double Jeffs for this one!
	11:59am alanr: @TDK60: I'll second that emotion. Somehow, thinking of Greg Tate in putting together today's playlist is quite a proper eulogy and a sendoff for Greg's transition. Many thanks for sharing with all of us, Jeff
	11:59am Jeff J: Thanks @hyde, @spodiodi, and @zzz! And @Jeff Golick, it's always a huge pleasure.
	🥁 11:59am chresti: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:59am Stork: Beautiful, Jeff! Thanks!!
	🥁 12:00pm chresti: (both Jeffs)
	🥁 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	12:00pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, y'all!

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December 19, 2021: For Greg Tate.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:02:26 (Pop-up)
Burnt Sugar The Arkestra Chamber	Oakanda Overdrive~Full Ride	Angels Over Oakanda	Burnt Sugar	2021	0:09:07 (Pop-up)
Bennie Maupin	Mappo "Mappo" by "Bennie Maupin"	The Jewel in the Lotus	ECM	1974	0:16:04 (Pop-up)
Rufus feat. Chaka Khan	Tell Me Something Good	Rags to Rufus	ABC Records	1974	0:24:21 (Pop-up)
James "Blood" Ulmer	Jazz Is the Teacher, Funk Is the Preacher	Are You Glad to Be in America?	Rough Trade	1980	0:28:55 (Pop-up)
Parliament	Funkentelechy "Funkentelechy" by "Parliament"	Funkentelechy vs. The Placebo Syndrome	Casablanca	1977	0:32:55 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	Black Satin "Black Satin" by "Miles Davis"	On the Corner	Columbia	1972	0:43:45 (Pop-up)
Missy Elliott	Get Ur Freak On "Get Ur Freak On" by "Missy Elliott"	Miss E...So Addictive	Elektra	2001	0:48:58 (Pop-up)
Betty Davis	He Was a Big Freak "He Was a Big Freak" by "Betty Davis"	They Say I'm Different	Just Sunshine Records	1974	0:52:45 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Melvin Gibbs	FlyBoy's Bardo EZ Pass				0:56:42 (Pop-up)
Bad Brains	Banned in D.C. "Banned in D.C." by "Bad Brains"	Bad Brains	ROIR	1982	1:04:35 (Pop-up)
Jimi Hendrix	Machine Gun "Machine Gun" by "Jimi Hendrix"	Band of Gypsys	Capitol Records	1970	1:07:29 (Pop-up)
Burnt Sugar	Liturgical ............?	The Rites - Butch Morris Conductions Inspired by Stravinsky's le Sacre du Printemps	Avant Groidd	2003	1:18:53 (Pop-up)
Rammellzee vs. K-Rob	Beat Bop "Beat Bop" by "Rammellzee vs. K-Rob"	Beat Bop	Tartown Record Co.	1983	1:25:15 (Pop-up)
Tony Williams	Morgan's Motion "Morgan's Motion" by "Tony Williams"	The Joy of Flying	Columbia	1979	1:35:24 (Pop-up)
Wu-Tang Clan	Protect Ya Neck "Protect Ya Neck" by "Wu-Tang Clan"	Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)	RCA	1993	1:43:41 (Pop-up)
Gil Scott-Heron	Home Is Where the Hatred Is	Pieces of a Man	Flying Dutchman	1971	1:48:42 (Pop-up)
Public Enemy	Night of the Living Baseheads	It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back	Def Jam	1988	1:51:47 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Melvin Gibbs	FlyBoy's Bardo EZ Pass				1:55:00 (Pop-up)
Marion Brown	Djinji's Corner "Djinji's Corner" by "Marion Brown"	Afternoon of a Georgia Faun	ECM	1970	2:01:32 (Pop-up)
Butch Morris	Othello B "Othello B" by "Butch Morris"	Dust to Dust	New World Records	1991	2:19:24 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	He Loved Him Madly "He Loved Him Madly" by "Miles Davis"	Get Up with It	Columbia	1974	2:27:23 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: early start. hello!
	9:00am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Hello hyde.
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Yoooooooooo, @hyde, @listener james from westwood, @Andrew in Toronto! Greetings.
	🥁 9:02am hyde: that "I'm going shopping" XMas song on the stream before the show was weirding me out
	9:02am fred: Greetings Jeff and all
	9:03am JtotheK: Hi! Seasonal Greeting everyone!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: @fred!!!
	9:03am Listener Gregory: Greetings, perfect men and women of Earth.
	9:06am Listener Robert: Thanks for this story. I had no idea of the show's origin.
	9:09am TDK60: Good morning, Jeff. Didn't know this show had a blog in its background. I recall Greg Tate's writing from the old Village Voice. Lost track of him later.
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Hello and hi, @JtotheK! And @Listener Gregory! And @Listener Robert! And @TDK60 (archives still up at destination-out.com)
	9:14am fred: Could there be a Jeff-squared show in the near future?
	9:14am TDK60: Jeff, there's plenty of text info in that Bandcamp page for Burnt Sugar, but I can't seem to find the personnel..
	9:15am Jeff Golick: I'm hoping Jeff J. stops by the comments today, @fred! As for a Jeffx2 show...we do have the techmology!
	9:15am alanr: Back in the cold north (or south brooklyn). Much appreciate the focus of today's program.
	9:16am zzz: good morning DJ JG and all, RIP to Mr Tate thanks for this tribute and looking forward to it
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Glad to have you here, @alanr! G'moning, @zzz!
	9:18am zzz: jewel in the lotus = top 5 ECM release (for me)
	🥁 9:19am WR: Hello Jeff and outies. Seems I missed the origin story, thank WFMU for the archive.
	9:19am Jeff Golick: @TDK60, re personnel, there's this - "over those two decades the personnel has also evolved from gig to gig, disc to disc. There are, of course, a handful of regulars: Greg Tate, Jared Michael Nickerson, Avram Fefer, ‘Moist’ Paula Henderson, Ben Tyree, Satch Hoyt and André Lassalle."
	9:20am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @WR! @zzz: completely agree. And for the longest time, never available on CD. Tate's writing absolutely hipped us to this one, and many, many others.
	9:23am TDK60: I also didn't know, or just forgot, that Tate helped start the Black Rock Coalition with Vernon Reid and others.
	9:25am listener james from westwood: Rufus and Chaka!
	9:27am zzz: yup. my CD’s cover isn’t the one posted here or as nice looking. it’s in the more austere minimal ECM style, not this colorful one w the lotus and mail in, i assume is the original. but yeah was thrilled to see it pop up on cd. was wondering the link to tate
	9:28am zzz: *mail in = maupin !
	9:28am StringOFperils: Good morning Jeff! Something this black and hawt must surely be telling me to get up and make coffee. So be it. Whoooosh....
	9:29am TDK60: This Chaka K/Rufus cut was one of the better songs on the radio that year!
	9:30am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StringOFperils!
	9:30am Listener Gregory: I think the first Burnt Sugar record was my introduction to Vijay Ayer. A later disc introduced me to Matana Roberts.
	🥁 9:31am duke: Good morning D:Oers
	9:32am Listener Gregory: This Ulmer performance is wild!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @zzz, whenever possible, I try to show the first version of any album cover here (not representative of any version I may or may not even own).
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @duke!
	9:37am zzz: always love the title “jazz is the teacher, funk is the preacher.” man that was ripping. Black Rock indeed
	🥁 9:40am Listener Gregory: I have that song on a number of records, but not like that.
	9:42am Jeff Golick: Greg Tate specifically writes about that version of the Ulmer song.
	🥁 9:42am doctorjazz: Hey Ho, D. O!!!
	9:42am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Nice to be. Hear.
	9:43am Andres: Good morning! Came for relentless holiday music. Staying for the Parliament!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: @Sir Doug! Check your funk pressure!
	9:45am Jeff Golick: @Andres! Yeah, we are suspending holiday music in favor of a remembrance of Greg Tate.
	9:45am zzz: ooooooohhhh. opening of black satin… every damn time.
	9:47am Jeff Golick: Jingle bells in effect, I suppose.
	9:47am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Songs with Christmas bells: The Creator Has a Master Plan This Miles Davis cut keep it going…
	9:48am zzz: track is so good. feel like this is still (?) underrated electric miles, but may be the best (?!) in the right mood/context i guess
	9:49am listener james from westwood: Missy aw yissy
	9:50am zzz: perfect pairing/segue
	🥁 9:52am Listener Gregory: I left my freak at the office. Dammit!
	9:52am Jeff Golick: @zzz, thanks. Not gonna lie: was really pleased with that one.
	9:53am listener james from westwood: Easy to forget this track is 20 y old, although the turn-of-the-millennium album art is a definite tell.
	9:55am zzz: yes! @JfW
	9:55am TDK60: Sly & Robbie did a cover of Miles' Black Satin. And RIP Robbie Shakespeare.
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Oh I'd like to hear that @TDK60!
	9:56am chresti coffee freak: ! Morning Jeff and freaky freaks!
	9:56am Jeff Golick: @chresti!
	9:56am fred: @ljfw: That ball with protruding spikes kinda looks topical though
	9:58am zzz: omg fred
	🥁 10:05am hyde: i went to see the Bad Brains twice. One was a no show. The other time they were 7 hours late. (I left before they appeared)
	10:05am TDK60: B.B. Maybe the first hardcore record or among the first. On cassette only at first.
	🥁 10:06am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: I may have heard Greg Tate when he was on the air at the Pacifica station in D.C., WPFW, which I listened to fairly constantly during my last two years of high school. If I did, I don't remember hearing specifically him. My radio hero on WFPW was Jimmy Gray, whose radio show was Black Fire. (Gray founded the record label Black Fire that recorded Oneness of Juju and others.) Like Tate, Jimmy Gray had first done a show over at Howard University's station, WHUR.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: @TDK60 i still have the cassette!
	🥁 10:09am Listener Gregory: Let's give the drummer some on this Jimi cut.
	10:12am Stork: Just joining in after a long winter's nap. Holy crap, what a playlist!! Let me join in the funk!
	10:13am zzz: i was just listening to this comp yesterday @Doug. great stuff on Black Fire black-fire.bandcamp.com...
	10:13am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that excellent context, @Doug!
	10:13am Jeff Golick: Funk yeah, @Stork!
	10:14am Jeff Golick: Buddy Miles! = drummer.
	10:15am Stephen O: Good morning, Jeff and FMU family. As always, spiritually, emotionally and intellectually full thanks to you.
	10:16am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Stephen O! Thanks for sharing that.
	10:17am fred: I think it's the first time I heard Machine Gun. I only knew the Isley Brothers version. So thanks for that
	10:18am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @fred! This was a New Year's Eve show, btw.
	10:19am TDK60: I attended the last of those four Gypsys' Fillmore shows. I was 19.
	10:20am zzz: welcome to the ‘70s. that’s cool @TDK!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @TDK60!
	10:21am TDK60: I sometimes still have to drop my jaw.
	10:22am zzz: must have seen some other wild shows at fillmore east around then
	🥁 10:24am hyde: @TDK wow
	10:26am Jeff Golick: Joe Manchin has a small brain.
	10:29am TDK60: zzz: Only a few. / DJ JG: if he "only had a heart."
	10:29am Jeff J: Hey all! So good to hear "Beat Bop," Basquiat on the controls-- or at least on the checkbook. Hope Greg Tate's Basquiat bio someday sees the light of day.
	10:30am Jeff Golick: @TDK60, yeah. Pretty sure it's just a lump of coal.
	10:30am Jeff Golick: Heeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy, JEFF J!
	🥁 10:31am chresti: TDK60 is a Head \\//
	10:32am Ike: Hi all!
	10:33am TDK60: zzz: I saw Fleetwood Mac and Savoy Brown at the Fillmore East. I was expecting blues but FMac was doing their Kiln House LP, they'd gone rock. Savoy B was still BritIsh Blooz tho. \| Chresti out westy.
	10:33am Jeff Golick: Good mornin', @Ike!
	🥁 10:34am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: This is the radio show we all needed so much more than we could ever know.
	10:35am Jeff J: I'd forgotten that Beastie Boys "b-boy making with the freak freak" from Ill Communication was referencing this tune
	10:35am zzz: when hip hop songs could be/were 10 minutes of fire. speaking of original record covers @Jeff G.
	10:36am Jeff Golick: @Jeff J: LOTTA source material in some of these selections. (e.g., Urge Overkill via Parliament)
	10:36am zzz: yeah @jeff J, heard that, hah.
	10:37am Jeff J: Greg Tate on the great "gothic futurist" Rammellzee, his music and visual artwork: afrovisionary.tumblr.com...
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: Beat Bop was fun (been here for a while, just listening in bed, Me. c. t. And Williams nice pairing!
	10:40am Jeff J: Good lord, that Tony Williams artwork. Love that you bought a record with that cover and heard this when you put it on.
	🥁 10:41am Listener Gregory: I think I knew this existed, once upon a time.
	10:42am Jeff Golick: When you put it on, you heard Jan Hammer and Tony. This comes at the very end of the record!
	10:43am Jeff J: @Jeff Golick - Shame there was never a full Cecil Taylor and Tony Williams duo album.
	🥁 10:43am Listener Gregory: I don't think the diversity of approaches on this record was approved of at the time.
	🥁 10:43am hyde: between this and the Stork Club tribute, i sure do regret selling a bunch of my Tony Williams records in the 80's
	🥁 10:44am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: Holy moly, forgot all about that CT revelation. Haven't listened to this in crazy years!
	10:44am Stork: One of the many records I neglected in last week's TW trib. Great choice, Jeff!
	10:44am listener james from westwood: wu wu wu
	🥁 10:44am hyde: i love this record sooooooo much
	10:45am Jeff Golick: @JJ: that would have been epic.
	10:52am Jeff J: Greg Tate on PE: www.villagevoice.com...
	🥁 10:53am doctorjazz: I was just looking at the Village Voice obit...
	10:54am Jeff Golick: The amount of information in this PE number is insane.
	🥁 10:54am doctorjazz: www.villagevoice.com...
	10:54am Jeff J: This track still slays
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: Read Tate regularly in the Voice back then.
	10:56am TDK60: What a set, Jeff!
	10:57am Jeff J: @doctorjazz The Voice kindly opened their archives and there's a lot of Tate articles you can read for free. Still a ton of his writing for them that isn't available, but it's a good start.
	🥁 11:00am Listener Gregory: For any Basquiat fans, there are a lot of reminiscences about him in John Lurie's "The History of Bones." They are all highly colored by his heavy drug use at the time, but they were apparently very close.
	11:01am Jeff J: Thanks @ListenerGregory! How did you like the Lurie book overall?
	11:03am Jeff J: Djinji = Marion Brown's son. Tate writes in detail about this track in his collection "Flyboy 2"
	🥁 11:04am Listener Gregory: @Jeff J, My feelings are pretty mixed. He did his best to be honest, but there is a negative tone to almost all of his experiences, and it's hard to tell how much is him and how much is in fact the reality of the music business, the movie business, the art business, NYC in the pre-Giuliani days, etc. Sometimes he recognizes that he only has his own perspective and memories, but sometimes not. It's all very vivid and easy to read, though.
	🥁 11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo! Enuff WiFis for I expect a short / intermittent time...
	11:09am Jeff J: @Listener Gregory Thanks for the rundown. A shame it's so negative, though he does seem like a guy who nurses a grduge, at least from the interviews I've read over the years. He certainly was smack in the middle of a fascinating music/art/film scene tho.
	11:10am Jeff Golick: Kind of a wild grouping of people on this Marion Brown piece: Anthony Braxton, Jack Gregg, Billy Malone, William Green, Andrew Cyrille, Larry Curtis, Chick Corea, Bennie Maupin, Jeanne Lee, Gayle Palmore
	11:10am john eck: Hello Jeff and fellow OUTliers! Protect ya neck
	11:10am Jeff Golick: Greetings and welcome, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 (apprope avatar for this one) and @john eck!
	11:11am Jeff J: This must've been an early ECM they licensed but didn't produce -- like Bennie Maupin's Jewel.
	🥁 11:12am Listener Gregory: @Jeff J, a lot of people in the arts operated on no money and so lied and cut corners a lot to get their products done (or their club open or their art sold, etc.). To be fair, Lurie freely admits to his own shenanigans (or some of them).
	🥁 11:13am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Heard a bit about Tate & PE on NPR...
	11:14am Jeff Golick: @JJ: definitely -- it's the fourth ECM record in the catalog.
	🥁 11:16am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...was FreshAir I think...
	11:19am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff
	🥁 11:20am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Happy Solstice ! ...Daylight @ least doesn't get much shorter in the Northern Hemisphere...
	11:20am Jeff Golick: and to you, @coelacanth∅!
	11:20am Jeff J: Greg Tate talking about Butch Morris and conduction, if anyone wants a deeper dive: blackfeb.com...
	🥁 11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (Solstice in ~2 days)
	11:21am Jeff J: @Rev Rabbit Thanks for the NPR tip about Tate and PE
	11:22am spodiodi: god morning, Jeff!
	11:24am spodiodi: good* holy typo!
	11:25am Jeff Golick: God morning to you, too, @spodiodi!
	🥁 11:25am chresti: Moaning, spodi!\\//
	🥁 11:26am chresti: *morning
	11:26am spodiodi: allo, allo, and god moaning, chresti\\//
	🥁 11:26am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Of course, Tate was most articulate about the value of HipHop (truly it was giving voice to realities nearly nothing else was), & the resistance to it - & in terms of PE, the shortsightedness of some of it. Interesting with homophobia for instance - I think parallel to Guns&Roses in Rawk - on the street level one has to be wary of unwelcome advances - issues of consent & of Class - while as mass media messengers be aware also of bigotry. Things I can relate to from both sides. Perhaps we have advanced there one hopes...
	🥁 11:28am Listener Gregory: Unfortunately, I have to leave the memorial service a bit early, to try to scrape the frozen crust off my walk and car. Excellent tribute, Jeff! A lot of work went into it, I can tell.
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @LG. Jeff & I appreciate that! Happy scraping.
	11:32am TDK60: Hi spodi, Revrab. Happy short days.
	🥁 11:32am doctorjazz: Heading out as well, thanks, Jeff!
	11:33am Jeff J: Thanks @Listener Gregory! It was fun to put this together. Every tune has a direct link to Tate's work and it was nice to revisit those pieces. Plus pay tribute to someone whose writing enriched our lives in countless ways.
	🥁 11:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's still even Miles I'm not familiar with yet. What a wonderful mysterious world...
	11:33am spodiodi: aloha, TDK60 \\//. thanks and same to you (i'm excited for them getting longer)
	11:33am Jeff Golick: Take care, @doc!
	🥁 11:34am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeffs, shoulda said.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: Here's more than any reasonable person might want to learn about "He Loved Him Madly," and how it was put together: plosin.com...
	🥁 11:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. That's like Beatlefreak level minutiae.
	11:39am Jeff J: Tate on "He Loved Him Madly": "A wake held in honor of Ellington, ambient music for the hereafter. Its colors, moods, and textures derive from Tibet, India, Micronesia, and Memphis. The three guitars favor sitars and soul band strokes; Miles' organ smears remind one of Tibetan harmonium voicings, while Henderson's bass sinks to lows as gut-plummeting as those in gamelan music. Across this aural sarcophagus, Miles' horn sobs and hobbles like a bereaved widown in a shroud. Beyond mourning Duke, the piece seems to suffer more from wanting to join him in the afterlife."
	11:40am Jeff Golick: Beautiful. (Duke Ellington had passed away the month prior to this recording in June 1974.)
	🥁 11:41am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'aural sarcophagus' - in a few sentences Tate's gifts are evident.
	11:44am Jeff Golick: "He Loved Him Madly" is cut A1 on this record. Miles' trumpet is first heard 15 minutes into the track.
	11:45am Jeff Golick: Where'd you find that Tate quotation, @JJ?
	11:46am zzz: wow Jeff J @11:39. i was aware of this being an Ellington tribute, but that quote really changes and elevates my hearing of this piece
	🥁 11:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Miles on organ? Like the alap in a raga? Seems to me that a primary value of Music is that it is not speech. It is from other lobes of the brain. Since, however, Homo sapiens is as inherently Verbal as we are Musical, it becomes sometimes necessary to articulate about it. 'It's hard to drink from a well you're well into.'
	11:49am Jeff J: @zzz Tate had a gift for doing just that. His essays on Miles Davis's electric music of the 1970s in Flyboy on the Buttermilk rearranged my thinking on that period + gave me a better vocabulary to think and talk about it.
	11:49am Jeff J: @Jeff Golick It's in the Electric Miles essays from Flyboy in the Buttermilk. Scripture!
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Wondering where to go next? Stork Club opens soon: wfmu.org... -- looks like a Barry Harris tribute awaits (inter alia).
	11:50am spodiodi: love that, RevRabbit
	11:50am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @JJ.
	🥁 11:50am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so it's a startling & actually integrative thing for someone to really be able to do that ...when Music is so immediate & immersive - & so powerful without one even catching the number of the vehicle that ran us over...
	11:50am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for another excellent show!!
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Our pleasure, @Andrew in Toronto, despite the sad circumstances. Thanks for being here, as ever.
	🥁 11:53am WR: Back from shopping errands. Looking at the playlist to review what I've been listening to. Some old favorites, some new to me, particularly Burnt Sugar, which seems to be at the center of the focus of today's episode. Many thanks. Will still be listening but not back on the screen for an hour or two. And then I will have all the reading from the links y'all shared to catch up on. Laters all. Onward.
	11:53am Jeff J: Thanks @Andrew in Toronto!
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Take care, @WR!
	11:55am TDK60: Thanks DJ Jeff G. for the special show.
	🥁 11:56am Sir Doug D’voidoffunk: We loved him, and this epic broadcast, madly.
	🥁 11:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...as in Vodoun, if the Loa has a message for the one actually possessed, he says - 'Tell My Horse'...
	11:57am john eck: I’ve never heard this one before. It’s awesome. Thanks for the show, Jeff!
	11:57am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks, and thanks to co-pilot Jeff Jackson for this one.
	11:58am zzz: thanks so much Jeff G, and Jeff J, for this great tribute and show
	11:58am spodiodi: thank you too, Jeff J!
	🥁 11:58am hyde: double thanks to the double Jeffs for this one!
	11:59am alanr: @TDK60: I'll second that emotion. Somehow, thinking of Greg Tate in putting together today's playlist is quite a proper eulogy and a sendoff for Greg's transition. Many thanks for sharing with all of us, Jeff
	11:59am Jeff J: Thanks @hyde, @spodiodi, and @zzz! And @Jeff Golick, it's always a huge pleasure.
	🥁 11:59am chresti: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:59am Stork: Beautiful, Jeff! Thanks!!
	🥁 12:00pm chresti: (both Jeffs)
	🥁 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	12:00pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, y'all!

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