WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from January 10, 2022

Listener comments!
	🤖 5:59pm chresti: Hi Mark and Techtonians!
	🤖 5:59pm Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm HyperDose: Deliciously long intro 🌭
	🤖 6:02pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:02pm DanFA: DVD
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Creeptocurrency.
	6:03pm garlic lover: Does anyone know the name of the last song on Olivias set?
	🤖 6:03pm herb.nyc: hola everybody. am at library desktop volume is real low, was fine for olivia. maybe just me?
	6:03pm garlic lover: With the epic vocals
	6:04pm DanFA: @Mark, Bruce should be a weekly contributor for a new segment called Dog of the Week
	6:04pm solo mon: Hi Mark and Bruce!
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicnauts!
	6:05pm matt, but not damon: matt damon is a real suck ass!!
	6:05pm happymaan: Hey, I'm just studying for my ham radio license, I hope to get it next month. Any of y'all ham radio operators?
	🤖 6:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: @happymaan - Listener dale has mentioned ham radio before.
	6:06pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Hello Mark !
	6:07pm WR: Just a pin prick and the machine would ding give you a complete health review. It was nuts from the start.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: @garlic lover: Leoni Leoni / Moon Hangs High Like a Full Stop
	6:08pm Sam: I’ve got one of those Theranos blood reading devices. It works great. What’s the problem?
	6:08pm melinda: hi friends
	6:09pm dale: wow - i thought kissinger had passed. HE'S 98!
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: aww come on, fraud is the new friend.
	6:10pm Sam: Maybe they forgot to plug it in?
	6:11pm Jackie G: Kissinger still passing...gas. He's good at that.
	6:11pm dale: they probably got the concept from the transporter filters on star trek next generation.
	6:11pm Tom on Swans Island Maine: Because there where No Patients!!! There were some test subjects . NO PATIENTS.
	🤖 6:11pm Bas NL: Rich investors are way louder then dead patients.
	6:12pm Peter from Dover NJ: Ask Bernie Madoff how it goes when you rip off the rich. Good evening Mark and everyone.
	6:12pm melinda: @Jackie haha
	6:13pm Joe Mulligan 🦀: People are saying she was convicted as a woman and all the tech bros have been sliding away for decades..
	🤖 6:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: I don't want to hear, but would not be surprised by "overturned on appeal" for this.
	6:14pm Sam: What was her plan? To somehow get the science figured out before anyone caught on? How did she expect to get away with selling a defective medical product in the long run?
	6:14pm Joe Mulligan 🦀: So if theranos CEO wasn’t a woman..
	🤖 6:15pm MarciB: @Joe Mulligan - yes, Zuch is free and she's being made an example of -- like Martha.
	6:15pm U: @Joe have to agree. Zuck is a better target. Martha Stewart and Mary Boone would agree.
	6:15pm Sam: I don’t think Zuck has technically committed fraud.
	6:15pm LCBD: Very sad to hear that she just had a baby. That was a stupid choice on her part.
	6:15pm Fuzzy: It was really foul weather when we were tarred and feathered you could hear the six-gun sound as they chased us out of town
	6:16pm melinda: @LCBD agree
	🤖 6:16pm MarciB: Well, I hope Mark H is right - going after Zuck - but I'm not holding my breath.
	6:16pm mndave: That David Roth piece is spot-on. Favorite line has to be: "It’s a terrible thing to say about someone, but Mark Zuckerberg really is Facebook."
	🤖 6:16pm herb.nyc: zuckerberg might be tuning in. and pondering whether to fly to a country w no extradition w USandA. hank kissinger might wanna tag along.
	🤖 6:17pm Bas NL: Time for WFMU powered not-for-profit Social Media... oh wait..
	🤖 6:17pm Webhamster Henry: Kissinger cannot set foot near The Hague though.
	6:17pm Ciggy: The jury only held Holmes guilty towards the investors, not the people who were falsely tested upon. The people lose. The powerful win!
	🤖 6:18pm MarciB: There are too many businesses around the world that rely on FB - doubt anything will happen. Wall St says no.
	6:18pm ledzeppelinsucks: I worked at Cooley Godward LLP now called Cooley in Palo Alto. Accountants were angry and kept quitting. They knew how much money was coming in and needed help counting it.
	🤖 6:19pm DjLorraine: Raskin Hurst 2024
	6:19pm Listener Robert: But the people who were tested on had no stake in it, since they weren't paying customers.
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: Bruce hears this as "don't look pup"
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: My ethers are currently worth $4.39 USD.
	🤖 6:20pm MarciB: We watched "Don't Look Up" on Xmas Eve. Talk about holiday cheer! ;)
	🤖 6:21pm herb.nyc: @DJLorraine Raskin Hurst 2024? nice. i wrote TRUMP / RITTENHOUSE 2024 on a paper shopping bag. guy gave me the stink eye.
	6:21pm ledzeppelinsucks: Not watching anything with Mer Streep in it. Mer Streep is the spoiler.
	6:21pm I k e: I felt like the movie could’ve been a lot funnier, and the first half is very one-note, but it picks up steam in the second half.
	6:21pm solo mon: Saw “Dont Look Up”- It was better than I expected.
	🤖 6:22pm herb.nyc: is the movie too long? someone told me that.
	6:22pm dale: i liked that in the end the only people picked to go on to another world were old white wrinkly people who couldn't procreate.
	6:22pm matt, but not damon: sterep is a-ok in my book, haha THE DINGOS TOOK MY BAY-BEE remember that
	6:22pm HyperDose: Jonah Hill has one of the most recognizable voices
	6:22pm KWilde: Good performance by Leo
	6:23pm solo mon: Better than Meryl Strepthroat.
	🤖 6:23pm Handy Haversack: Are they saying "comet" or "comma"? Always too many commas on this planet.
	6:23pm dale: they could have named that planet mar-a-lago.
	6:23pm ledzeppelinsucks: I have leaked that ranch dressing sucks.
	6:23pm LCBD: ledzep, M Streep is intolerable in this movie!! I understand and applaud the point but I couldn’t stand this movie!
	6:23pm DanFA: Sounds like just a long SNL sketch.
	6:24pm Sam: If this happened, the Democrats would be making simple obvious plans for how to save the earth, while the republicans would just deny it was happening, and block everyone else from taking action.
	6:24pm mewel stweep: its a bad movie
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: I thought it was very uneven - parts should have been tossed or rethought, and more global response would have been nice. It's hard to do satire - some of that worked well. No problem with the acting, but with the script.
	6:24pm castor: I haven't seen it yet but I'm afraid it'll be too much of a "Haha, we're doomed" and not enough of a "get inspired to do something" film
	6:24pm DanFA: How did you watch it Mark, if you didn't watch it on Netflix?
	6:24pm dale: i think people like/dislike it based on political viewpoint.
	6:26pm solo mon: Thought that Cate Blanchett was great. She always is, though.
	6:26pm Sam: Comet? The free market will take care of it.
	6:27pm solo mon: I opened my curtain and let mark watch it through the window.
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Discussion of many possible existential threats that could arise at any time right here on Techtonic. I mean, discussion right here on Techtonic, not arising right here on Techtonic. I could have tossed a comma in there, but my blood is all riled up: www.wfmu.org...
	6:28pm Fredericks: Mark, speaking of climate change, I'd like to hear a show that goes in depth on how much energy BlockChain uses. Also a discussions about how to do crypto without using ridiculous amounts of computing power.
	6:28pm solo mon: The Crisis of Devices
	🤖 6:28pm Bas NL: On Great Tech... James Webb fully deployed! www.youtube.com...
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Various existential crises that I posted as questions to presidential candidates... in 2008: airoutslowly.blogspot.com...
	6:29pm Fuzzy: I love my coffee grinder.
	6:29pm Tommy in Neversink: I took Don't Look UP as a commentary on the irresponsible manner serious issues are dealt with in the media . Everything has to be light entertainment.
	6:29pm The Butterman: Stupid movie. Streep should have her acting license revoked.
	6:30pm Blobs: The base layer problem is money, Mark. Corrupt financial incentives touch every problem you cover ad nauseum on the show. We need to fix money.
	6:30pm Juli: Let me wrap my head around ppl's response first lol
	6:31pm Juli: What about the actual problems right? And fix them
	6:31pm LCBD: Butterman! It was cringeworthy!
	6:31pm Fredericks: @matt, but not damon: The dingo did take her baby.
	6:32pm Juli: Oh let it goooooo haha Of course it is cringe haha
	6:32pm kristinky: Leo cares about the climate, but also being on a yacht. I get it. pagesix.com...
	6:32pm Juli: It is s Hollywood Satire All Hollywood is Hollywood
	🤖 6:32pm herb.nyc: mark rylance did a fantastic 10,12.. minute monologue in a broadway play i saw. wild.
	6:32pm Sam: Go ahead and give us the spoilers. I’m never paying Netflix for this movie.
	6:32pm The Butterman: How much did it cost to make this movie? I’m sure those multi-millions could have been better spent on something productive.
	🤖 6:32pm MarciB: Rylance is sublime - he's peerless!
	6:33pm Juli: Yeah the rich have to let it go too I don't understand money hounds
	6:33pm pp: I still think the character played by Rylance has lots of Jordan Peterson in there.
	6:33pm Juli: The money needs to come from MUSK and the CORPORATIONS lmao
	6:34pm Ciggy: Mark Rylance is great in The Tudors
	6:34pm LCBD: I meant Meryl Streep was cringeworthy in this movie!!
	6:34pm Juli: I would never say that lol No speak no evil
	6:34pm Juli: True true
	6:34pm dale: she was acting like trump. hence cringeworthy.
	6:35pm Ciggy: *Wolf Hall
	6:35pm Jackie G: The movie was good. It said alot about America's ignorance today. In a funny way I guess. I thought about the pandemic. The comet was Covid.
	6:35pm kristinky: I heard that, ironically or unsurprisingly, Leo also does believe corporations will save us from climate change.
	6:36pm Juli: I am making a website about this lol
	6:36pm Juli: To get us off Social Media
	🤖 6:36pm MarciB: @Jackie - me too, and I also thought it was about republicans as well
	6:36pm duck: matrix resurrections also went over the top at points but also had one or two really poignant criticisms
	6:36pm solo mon: Yeah my take away is what it is like to be in the room with a trump, a musk, and some desperate news people
	6:37pm Blobs: This board is a lil spicy tonight
	6:38pm DanFA: Are there any good cell phone alternatives?
	6:38pm HyperDose: @Solo Probably a lot like the book of Exodus
	6:38pm Juli: Hehe Yes Fairphone Dan FA
	6:38pm Jackie G: @Marci: yeah, Trumpski/Streep promoting any solution to the problem other than what was needed. Anything to stay in power. And get votes.
	🤖 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: TIL there's a new Johnny Knoxville movie coming out next month. What's the hidden meaning behind getting kicked repeatedly in the groin?
	6:39pm duck: jitterbug, ham radio
	6:39pm Juli: I hope I make my movie soon hehe :{ :}
	6:39pm Sam: I seriously think Americans are too lazy and out of shape to have a civil war. Most people can’t even run to the end of the block.
	6:39pm solo mon: Ken- a statement about toxic masculinity?
	6:40pm Juli: Good point Sam High five
	6:40pm dale: c.b. sideband through an amplifier. illegal but effective.
	6:41pm Jackie G: @Sam: yeah but that's why they got guns and trucks.
	6:42pm Jeff Moore: Now go buy NFTs with your Dogecoin? Douchebag.
	6:42pm Juli: That was intense lol
	6:42pm Wind: lol
	6:43pm DanFA: Not you too, Matt Damon!
	6:43pm Jackie G: Talk about cringe-worthy, that Damon commercial is troubling,
	6:43pm Juli: LMAO
	6:43pm Rich in Washington: The missus and I enjoyed the movie greatly. We also liked the actor portraying William Frawley, even though I didn't buy the premise of Lucy and Ricky being astrophysicists for a second.
	6:43pm melinda: great noise there Mark
	6:43pm Tommy in Neversink: That's why Mat Damon was the bad guy in The Departed and Leonardo DiCaprio was the good guy
	🤖 6:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: I thought there was some concert taking place at the cryto.com arena in Los Angeles.
	6:44pm Ike: @Sam@6:26, that’s basically the central satirical conceit of the whole movie. Unfortunately there isn’t much lore to it than that, though the second half has some good bits, and Mark Rylance is excellent as a creepy Jordan Peterson-Tim Cook-Zuckerberg-ish mashup.
	6:44pm solo mon: Rich-I loved it when they shot lucy into space and she pushed the meteor while going “waahhhhhhhh!”
	🤖 6:44pm Handy Haversack: There were good guys in The Departed? I was definitely rooting for the comet in that one.
	6:44pm LCBD: Exactly, dale!
	6:45pm Fredericks: Hey instant request!
	6:45pm Ike: *much more
	6:45pm Gerz in LA: Don't Look Up. Main allegory is about the covid. Those who acknowledge it and those who call it a conspiracy don't want to look up
	6:45pm Ciggy: Matt Damon is great in Team America World Police!
	6:45pm Jackie G: We really need Mark Hurst. Mark, you rock.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: My WoofMooCoins are tanking now, but they will double in value after next marathon.
	🤖 6:46pm MarciB: ah yes - crypto, Web.30, AR glasses...ugh. The future looks a little depressing.
	6:46pm Fuzzy: I'm !@#$ing Matt Damon!
	6:46pm kevlicki: Damn, I got out of a meeting and can in over halfway thru the show Hey hippies!
	6:46pm yippie: there are crypto systems used to pay for decentralized web-hosting as an alternative to AWS
	6:46pm StringOFperils: Here's another nod to the Romans: There is but one thing of real value - to cultivate truth and justice, and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men. _______Marcus Aurelius
	6:47pm Gerz in LA: Crypto - the bastard child of the dot.com revolution. More fossil fuels burned to send numbers around servers world-wide to the benefit of who? End of Days.
	6:47pm DanFA: Looks very uncanny valley
	6:47pm HyperDose: I'm over the word "content". Much like the term "producer", it's been bastardized into obscurity.
	6:47pm dale: LOVE team america.
	6:47pm Ciggy: Yes @Fuzzy
	🤖 6:48pm Handy Haversack: Gotta feed the monsters. I won't see this movie, but I don't see many mainstream movies. At least it riled people up? But the answer to the problems of capitalism will never be more capitalism. But always good to hear Mark tell it like it is! Heads on pivots, Techyons! Keep on seeing!
	6:48pm solo mon: Con tent creator
	6:48pm StringOFperils: ^^ good one, solo
	6:49pm The Butterman: I’m In the process of developing a crypto currency called Ficto. All I have so far is the cool name. Looking for investors
	6:49pm efd: He's already said "crypto" too many times.
	6:49pm Juli: Giving me headache :{
	6:49pm HyperDose: I think we're pitching different kinds of tents, Solo 😏
	6:49pm Listener: Ya'll might want to look into the CDC and their insatiable thirst for every single persons private data. You know all your PRIVATE medical DATA, with zero warrants. That guy from Germany would be very proud.
	6:50pm Rich in Washington: There's a seeker born every minute
	6:50pm Feldy: Is Crypto for children?
	🤖 6:50pm Bas NL: Blows a Raspberry
	6:50pm Cat Stacker: There's this strange thing I read about today, a "startup" called "Ryval" that's mostly theoretical at this point . . . but it's an attempt to use crypto to "gamify" the court system using . . . gambling/betting
	6:51pm Gerz in LA: When the vatican creates a crypto coin then you know it has beat out christianity as the number one religion.
	6:51pm solo mon: I’ve created a new currency, that centers around Chuck E Cheese. Play skeeball, earn tickets and use them to buy pencil toppers, etc.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: Kids can use their credit cards for kids to invest in Cryptoland
	6:52pm StringOFperils: Crypto night.
	🤖 6:52pm Bas NL: Watch the source: crypto.com...
	6:52pm Jeff Moore: How can that not be a spoof? Ohh. That's right, we're in the stupidest timeline.
	6:52pm castor: sounds like something the Yes Men would do
	6:53pm Gerz in LA: What happens during an earthquake or hurricane in Cryptoland?
	6:53pm sufferwords: TNW News- watch non googley Cryptoland - I DDG’d it
	6:53pm Rich in Washington: I'm so mad I just carbon offset myself.
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: The cryptoland target customer seem to be kids?
	6:54pm HyperDose: The Chuck E Cheese Pizza "conspiracy" from youtube is a prime example of social media gone wrong. Someone makes a baseless video and sics their mindless drones on businesses to cause trouble and harass workers.
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: I've been thinking that a lot lately, castor. We're living in a Charlie Brooker News Wipe.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: The Yes Men put out press releases of good things that bad companies should be doing, and that forces the real companies to deny that they'd ever do anything like those good deeds.
	6:55pm Jackie G: Man, we are on one path. The wrong path, there really is no other path. Not in our lifetime. Who will lead the world to the proper path? Who?
	6:56pm sufferwords: wow this TNW News deep dived- checked the property found it too small and still for sale and make a direct Fyre Fest analogy
	6:56pm DanFA: "I like the grill meat."- Mark Zuckerberg, probably
	6:56pm castor: the Yes Men also used to make up ridiculous companies and products, like the golden spandex suit that lets you watch your employees on an inflatable dick
	6:57pm Gerz in LA: Hey, let go of my Eggo...
	6:57pm Jackie G: Wellread, Mark. Well read
	6:57pm LCBD: Thanks Mark! Have a good evening, one and all!
	6:58pm Peter from Dover NJ: I keep thinking, David Lee Roth, he went from rock n roll to news commentary.
	6:58pm DanFA: Is that from the movie The World's End?
	6:58pm Quinn02: Looking forward to listening to this episode on my way to work tomorrow! Thank you Mark!
	6:58pm HyperDose: This is just making me miss Bohemian Grove. Can't wait to go back and repent to the owl. Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm castor: Thank you once again Mark!
	6:58pm StringOFperils: Good for you, Mark.
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:59pm ARB: Yeah Mark! Thanks!
	6:59pm P-90: Thanks!
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	7:00pm solo mon: Thank you mark!
	7:00pm dano59: Thx Mark - do, do go into the evils of Netflix
	7:06pm WR: Thank you Mark!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from January 10, 2022

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January 10, 2022: Damon vs. DiCaprio and "Don't Look Up"

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Tonight: Damon vs. DiCaprio and Don't Look Up: While Matt Damon shills for crypto-bro fantasies, DiCaprio and the new movie Don't Look Up give a realistic view of our moment. Today, praising dystopian truth-tellers.

Links:

• Elizabeth Holmes is found guilty of four counts of fraud (Jan 3, 2022)

• Cryptoland video, which apparently is not a parody (?!)... see in particular these comments by Molly White.

• Don't Look Up trailer - featuring Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Lawrence, Meryl Streep, Jonah Hill, Cate Blanchett, Tyler Perry, and Mark Rylance

• Matt Damon's crypto-shilling commercial

• Mark Zuckerberg Is TNR’s 2021 Scoundrel of the Year (by David Roth in The New Republic, Dec 22, 2021): “There are many things to abhor about Mark Zuckerberg and his works, but the fundamental mediocrity of it all - the lack of vision, the absence of any moral sense or shame, the inability and unwillingness not just to fix but even reckon with the dangerous and ungovernable thing he’s made - is what feels both most egregious and most of this moment. It is embarrassing and not a little enraging to realize that you are subject to the whims of an amoral and incurious capitalist posing as a visionary optimist. It is especially humiliating when the all-bestriding and inevitable figure in question is such a dim, dull nullity. . . . The nitwit founder of Facebook has created the worst, most damaging website in the world. And we’re just supposed to accept it.”

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Damon vs. DiCaprio and "Don't Look Up": praising dystopian truth tellers
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Don't Look Up trailer "Don't Look Up trailer"		0:20:00 (Pop-up)
	Matt Damon crypto commercial "Matt Damon crypto commercial"		0:38:55 (Pop-up)
	Cryptoland video "Cryptoland video"		0:47:20 (Pop-up)
Peter Mukoko	Esimo Esimo "Esimo Esimo" by "Peter Mukoko"	No Funk No Chop: Underground African Funk & Disco Hits 1977-1982	0:56:53 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🤖 5:59pm chresti: Hi Mark and Techtonians!
	🤖 5:59pm Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm HyperDose: Deliciously long intro 🌭
	🤖 6:02pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:02pm DanFA: DVD
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Creeptocurrency.
	6:03pm garlic lover: Does anyone know the name of the last song on Olivias set?
	🤖 6:03pm herb.nyc: hola everybody. am at library desktop volume is real low, was fine for olivia. maybe just me?
	6:03pm garlic lover: With the epic vocals
	6:04pm DanFA: @Mark, Bruce should be a weekly contributor for a new segment called Dog of the Week
	6:04pm solo mon: Hi Mark and Bruce!
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicnauts!
	6:05pm matt, but not damon: matt damon is a real suck ass!!
	6:05pm happymaan: Hey, I'm just studying for my ham radio license, I hope to get it next month. Any of y'all ham radio operators?
	🤖 6:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: @happymaan - Listener dale has mentioned ham radio before.
	6:06pm Stillwell Coney Islander: Hello Mark !
	6:07pm WR: Just a pin prick and the machine would ding give you a complete health review. It was nuts from the start.
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: @garlic lover: Leoni Leoni / Moon Hangs High Like a Full Stop
	6:08pm Sam: I’ve got one of those Theranos blood reading devices. It works great. What’s the problem?
	6:08pm melinda: hi friends
	6:09pm dale: wow - i thought kissinger had passed. HE'S 98!
	🤖 6:09pm herb.nyc: aww come on, fraud is the new friend.
	6:10pm Sam: Maybe they forgot to plug it in?
	6:11pm Jackie G: Kissinger still passing...gas. He's good at that.
	6:11pm dale: they probably got the concept from the transporter filters on star trek next generation.
	6:11pm Tom on Swans Island Maine: Because there where No Patients!!! There were some test subjects . NO PATIENTS.
	🤖 6:11pm Bas NL: Rich investors are way louder then dead patients.
	6:12pm Peter from Dover NJ: Ask Bernie Madoff how it goes when you rip off the rich. Good evening Mark and everyone.
	6:12pm melinda: @Jackie haha
	6:13pm Joe Mulligan 🦀: People are saying she was convicted as a woman and all the tech bros have been sliding away for decades..
	🤖 6:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: I don't want to hear, but would not be surprised by "overturned on appeal" for this.
	6:14pm Sam: What was her plan? To somehow get the science figured out before anyone caught on? How did she expect to get away with selling a defective medical product in the long run?
	6:14pm Joe Mulligan 🦀: So if theranos CEO wasn’t a woman..
	🤖 6:15pm MarciB: @Joe Mulligan - yes, Zuch is free and she's being made an example of -- like Martha.
	6:15pm U: @Joe have to agree. Zuck is a better target. Martha Stewart and Mary Boone would agree.
	6:15pm Sam: I don’t think Zuck has technically committed fraud.
	6:15pm LCBD: Very sad to hear that she just had a baby. That was a stupid choice on her part.
	6:15pm Fuzzy: It was really foul weather when we were tarred and feathered you could hear the six-gun sound as they chased us out of town
	6:16pm melinda: @LCBD agree
	🤖 6:16pm MarciB: Well, I hope Mark H is right - going after Zuck - but I'm not holding my breath.
	6:16pm mndave: That David Roth piece is spot-on. Favorite line has to be: "It’s a terrible thing to say about someone, but Mark Zuckerberg really is Facebook."
	🤖 6:16pm herb.nyc: zuckerberg might be tuning in. and pondering whether to fly to a country w no extradition w USandA. hank kissinger might wanna tag along.
	🤖 6:17pm Bas NL: Time for WFMU powered not-for-profit Social Media... oh wait..
	🤖 6:17pm Webhamster Henry: Kissinger cannot set foot near The Hague though.
	6:17pm Ciggy: The jury only held Holmes guilty towards the investors, not the people who were falsely tested upon. The people lose. The powerful win!
	🤖 6:18pm MarciB: There are too many businesses around the world that rely on FB - doubt anything will happen. Wall St says no.
	6:18pm ledzeppelinsucks: I worked at Cooley Godward LLP now called Cooley in Palo Alto. Accountants were angry and kept quitting. They knew how much money was coming in and needed help counting it.
	🤖 6:19pm DjLorraine: Raskin Hurst 2024
	6:19pm Listener Robert: But the people who were tested on had no stake in it, since they weren't paying customers.
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: Bruce hears this as "don't look pup"
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: My ethers are currently worth $4.39 USD.
	🤖 6:20pm MarciB: We watched "Don't Look Up" on Xmas Eve. Talk about holiday cheer! ;)
	🤖 6:21pm herb.nyc: @DJLorraine Raskin Hurst 2024? nice. i wrote TRUMP / RITTENHOUSE 2024 on a paper shopping bag. guy gave me the stink eye.
	6:21pm ledzeppelinsucks: Not watching anything with Mer Streep in it. Mer Streep is the spoiler.
	6:21pm I k e: I felt like the movie could’ve been a lot funnier, and the first half is very one-note, but it picks up steam in the second half.
	6:21pm solo mon: Saw “Dont Look Up”- It was better than I expected.
	🤖 6:22pm herb.nyc: is the movie too long? someone told me that.
	6:22pm dale: i liked that in the end the only people picked to go on to another world were old white wrinkly people who couldn't procreate.
	6:22pm matt, but not damon: sterep is a-ok in my book, haha THE DINGOS TOOK MY BAY-BEE remember that
	6:22pm HyperDose: Jonah Hill has one of the most recognizable voices
	6:22pm KWilde: Good performance by Leo
	6:23pm solo mon: Better than Meryl Strepthroat.
	🤖 6:23pm Handy Haversack: Are they saying "comet" or "comma"? Always too many commas on this planet.
	6:23pm dale: they could have named that planet mar-a-lago.
	6:23pm ledzeppelinsucks: I have leaked that ranch dressing sucks.
	6:23pm LCBD: ledzep, M Streep is intolerable in this movie!! I understand and applaud the point but I couldn’t stand this movie!
	6:23pm DanFA: Sounds like just a long SNL sketch.
	6:24pm Sam: If this happened, the Democrats would be making simple obvious plans for how to save the earth, while the republicans would just deny it was happening, and block everyone else from taking action.
	6:24pm mewel stweep: its a bad movie
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: I thought it was very uneven - parts should have been tossed or rethought, and more global response would have been nice. It's hard to do satire - some of that worked well. No problem with the acting, but with the script.
	6:24pm castor: I haven't seen it yet but I'm afraid it'll be too much of a "Haha, we're doomed" and not enough of a "get inspired to do something" film
	6:24pm DanFA: How did you watch it Mark, if you didn't watch it on Netflix?
	6:24pm dale: i think people like/dislike it based on political viewpoint.
	6:26pm solo mon: Thought that Cate Blanchett was great. She always is, though.
	6:26pm Sam: Comet? The free market will take care of it.
	6:27pm solo mon: I opened my curtain and let mark watch it through the window.
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Discussion of many possible existential threats that could arise at any time right here on Techtonic. I mean, discussion right here on Techtonic, not arising right here on Techtonic. I could have tossed a comma in there, but my blood is all riled up: www.wfmu.org...
	6:28pm Fredericks: Mark, speaking of climate change, I'd like to hear a show that goes in depth on how much energy BlockChain uses. Also a discussions about how to do crypto without using ridiculous amounts of computing power.
	6:28pm solo mon: The Crisis of Devices
	🤖 6:28pm Bas NL: On Great Tech... James Webb fully deployed! www.youtube.com...
	🤖 6:28pm Webhamster Henry: Various existential crises that I posted as questions to presidential candidates... in 2008: airoutslowly.blogspot.com...
	6:29pm Fuzzy: I love my coffee grinder.
	6:29pm Tommy in Neversink: I took Don't Look UP as a commentary on the irresponsible manner serious issues are dealt with in the media . Everything has to be light entertainment.
	6:29pm The Butterman: Stupid movie. Streep should have her acting license revoked.
	6:30pm Blobs: The base layer problem is money, Mark. Corrupt financial incentives touch every problem you cover ad nauseum on the show. We need to fix money.
	6:30pm Juli: Let me wrap my head around ppl's response first lol
	6:31pm Juli: What about the actual problems right? And fix them
	6:31pm LCBD: Butterman! It was cringeworthy!
	6:31pm Fredericks: @matt, but not damon: The dingo did take her baby.
	6:32pm Juli: Oh let it goooooo haha Of course it is cringe haha
	6:32pm kristinky: Leo cares about the climate, but also being on a yacht. I get it. pagesix.com...
	6:32pm Juli: It is s Hollywood Satire All Hollywood is Hollywood
	🤖 6:32pm herb.nyc: mark rylance did a fantastic 10,12.. minute monologue in a broadway play i saw. wild.
	6:32pm Sam: Go ahead and give us the spoilers. I’m never paying Netflix for this movie.
	6:32pm The Butterman: How much did it cost to make this movie? I’m sure those multi-millions could have been better spent on something productive.
	🤖 6:32pm MarciB: Rylance is sublime - he's peerless!
	6:33pm Juli: Yeah the rich have to let it go too I don't understand money hounds
	6:33pm pp: I still think the character played by Rylance has lots of Jordan Peterson in there.
	6:33pm Juli: The money needs to come from MUSK and the CORPORATIONS lmao
	6:34pm Ciggy: Mark Rylance is great in The Tudors
	6:34pm LCBD: I meant Meryl Streep was cringeworthy in this movie!!
	6:34pm Juli: I would never say that lol No speak no evil
	6:34pm Juli: True true
	6:34pm dale: she was acting like trump. hence cringeworthy.
	6:35pm Ciggy: *Wolf Hall
	6:35pm Jackie G: The movie was good. It said alot about America's ignorance today. In a funny way I guess. I thought about the pandemic. The comet was Covid.
	6:35pm kristinky: I heard that, ironically or unsurprisingly, Leo also does believe corporations will save us from climate change.
	6:36pm Juli: I am making a website about this lol
	6:36pm Juli: To get us off Social Media
	🤖 6:36pm MarciB: @Jackie - me too, and I also thought it was about republicans as well
	6:36pm duck: matrix resurrections also went over the top at points but also had one or two really poignant criticisms
	6:36pm solo mon: Yeah my take away is what it is like to be in the room with a trump, a musk, and some desperate news people
	6:37pm Blobs: This board is a lil spicy tonight
	6:38pm DanFA: Are there any good cell phone alternatives?
	6:38pm HyperDose: @Solo Probably a lot like the book of Exodus
	6:38pm Juli: Hehe Yes Fairphone Dan FA
	6:38pm Jackie G: @Marci: yeah, Trumpski/Streep promoting any solution to the problem other than what was needed. Anything to stay in power. And get votes.
	🤖 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: TIL there's a new Johnny Knoxville movie coming out next month. What's the hidden meaning behind getting kicked repeatedly in the groin?
	6:39pm duck: jitterbug, ham radio
	6:39pm Juli: I hope I make my movie soon hehe :{ :}
	6:39pm Sam: I seriously think Americans are too lazy and out of shape to have a civil war. Most people can’t even run to the end of the block.
	6:39pm solo mon: Ken- a statement about toxic masculinity?
	6:40pm Juli: Good point Sam High five
	6:40pm dale: c.b. sideband through an amplifier. illegal but effective.
	6:41pm Jackie G: @Sam: yeah but that's why they got guns and trucks.
	6:42pm Jeff Moore: Now go buy NFTs with your Dogecoin? Douchebag.
	6:42pm Juli: That was intense lol
	6:42pm Wind: lol
	6:43pm DanFA: Not you too, Matt Damon!
	6:43pm Jackie G: Talk about cringe-worthy, that Damon commercial is troubling,
	6:43pm Juli: LMAO
	6:43pm Rich in Washington: The missus and I enjoyed the movie greatly. We also liked the actor portraying William Frawley, even though I didn't buy the premise of Lucy and Ricky being astrophysicists for a second.
	6:43pm melinda: great noise there Mark
	6:43pm Tommy in Neversink: That's why Mat Damon was the bad guy in The Departed and Leonardo DiCaprio was the good guy
	🤖 6:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: I thought there was some concert taking place at the cryto.com arena in Los Angeles.
	6:44pm Ike: @Sam@6:26, that’s basically the central satirical conceit of the whole movie. Unfortunately there isn’t much lore to it than that, though the second half has some good bits, and Mark Rylance is excellent as a creepy Jordan Peterson-Tim Cook-Zuckerberg-ish mashup.
	6:44pm solo mon: Rich-I loved it when they shot lucy into space and she pushed the meteor while going “waahhhhhhhh!”
	🤖 6:44pm Handy Haversack: There were good guys in The Departed? I was definitely rooting for the comet in that one.
	6:44pm LCBD: Exactly, dale!
	6:45pm Fredericks: Hey instant request!
	6:45pm Ike: *much more
	6:45pm Gerz in LA: Don't Look Up. Main allegory is about the covid. Those who acknowledge it and those who call it a conspiracy don't want to look up
	6:45pm Ciggy: Matt Damon is great in Team America World Police!
	6:45pm Jackie G: We really need Mark Hurst. Mark, you rock.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: My WoofMooCoins are tanking now, but they will double in value after next marathon.
	🤖 6:46pm MarciB: ah yes - crypto, Web.30, AR glasses...ugh. The future looks a little depressing.
	6:46pm Fuzzy: I'm !@#$ing Matt Damon!
	6:46pm kevlicki: Damn, I got out of a meeting and can in over halfway thru the show Hey hippies!
	6:46pm yippie: there are crypto systems used to pay for decentralized web-hosting as an alternative to AWS
	6:46pm StringOFperils: Here's another nod to the Romans: There is but one thing of real value - to cultivate truth and justice, and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men. _______Marcus Aurelius
	6:47pm Gerz in LA: Crypto - the bastard child of the dot.com revolution. More fossil fuels burned to send numbers around servers world-wide to the benefit of who? End of Days.
	6:47pm DanFA: Looks very uncanny valley
	6:47pm HyperDose: I'm over the word "content". Much like the term "producer", it's been bastardized into obscurity.
	6:47pm dale: LOVE team america.
	6:47pm Ciggy: Yes @Fuzzy
	🤖 6:48pm Handy Haversack: Gotta feed the monsters. I won't see this movie, but I don't see many mainstream movies. At least it riled people up? But the answer to the problems of capitalism will never be more capitalism. But always good to hear Mark tell it like it is! Heads on pivots, Techyons! Keep on seeing!
	6:48pm solo mon: Con tent creator
	6:48pm StringOFperils: ^^ good one, solo
	6:49pm The Butterman: I’m In the process of developing a crypto currency called Ficto. All I have so far is the cool name. Looking for investors
	6:49pm efd: He's already said "crypto" too many times.
	6:49pm Juli: Giving me headache :{
	6:49pm HyperDose: I think we're pitching different kinds of tents, Solo 😏
	6:49pm Listener: Ya'll might want to look into the CDC and their insatiable thirst for every single persons private data. You know all your PRIVATE medical DATA, with zero warrants. That guy from Germany would be very proud.
	6:50pm Rich in Washington: There's a seeker born every minute
	6:50pm Feldy: Is Crypto for children?
	🤖 6:50pm Bas NL: Blows a Raspberry
	6:50pm Cat Stacker: There's this strange thing I read about today, a "startup" called "Ryval" that's mostly theoretical at this point . . . but it's an attempt to use crypto to "gamify" the court system using . . . gambling/betting
	6:51pm Gerz in LA: When the vatican creates a crypto coin then you know it has beat out christianity as the number one religion.
	6:51pm solo mon: I’ve created a new currency, that centers around Chuck E Cheese. Play skeeball, earn tickets and use them to buy pencil toppers, etc.
	🤖 6:52pm chresti: Kids can use their credit cards for kids to invest in Cryptoland
	6:52pm StringOFperils: Crypto night.
	🤖 6:52pm Bas NL: Watch the source: crypto.com...
	6:52pm Jeff Moore: How can that not be a spoof? Ohh. That's right, we're in the stupidest timeline.
	6:52pm castor: sounds like something the Yes Men would do
	6:53pm Gerz in LA: What happens during an earthquake or hurricane in Cryptoland?
	6:53pm sufferwords: TNW News- watch non googley Cryptoland - I DDG’d it
	6:53pm Rich in Washington: I'm so mad I just carbon offset myself.
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: The cryptoland target customer seem to be kids?
	6:54pm HyperDose: The Chuck E Cheese Pizza "conspiracy" from youtube is a prime example of social media gone wrong. Someone makes a baseless video and sics their mindless drones on businesses to cause trouble and harass workers.
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: I've been thinking that a lot lately, castor. We're living in a Charlie Brooker News Wipe.
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: The Yes Men put out press releases of good things that bad companies should be doing, and that forces the real companies to deny that they'd ever do anything like those good deeds.
	6:55pm Jackie G: Man, we are on one path. The wrong path, there really is no other path. Not in our lifetime. Who will lead the world to the proper path? Who?
	6:56pm sufferwords: wow this TNW News deep dived- checked the property found it too small and still for sale and make a direct Fyre Fest analogy
	6:56pm DanFA: "I like the grill meat."- Mark Zuckerberg, probably
	6:56pm castor: the Yes Men also used to make up ridiculous companies and products, like the golden spandex suit that lets you watch your employees on an inflatable dick
	6:57pm Gerz in LA: Hey, let go of my Eggo...
	6:57pm Jackie G: Wellread, Mark. Well read
	6:57pm LCBD: Thanks Mark! Have a good evening, one and all!
	6:58pm Peter from Dover NJ: I keep thinking, David Lee Roth, he went from rock n roll to news commentary.
	6:58pm DanFA: Is that from the movie The World's End?
	6:58pm Quinn02: Looking forward to listening to this episode on my way to work tomorrow! Thank you Mark!
	6:58pm HyperDose: This is just making me miss Bohemian Grove. Can't wait to go back and repent to the owl. Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm castor: Thank you once again Mark!
	6:58pm StringOFperils: Good for you, Mark.
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:59pm ARB: Yeah Mark! Thanks!
	6:59pm P-90: Thanks!
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	7:00pm solo mon: Thank you mark!
	7:00pm dano59: Thx Mark - do, do go into the evils of Netflix
	7:06pm WR: Thank you Mark!

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