WFMU: Yes, We Have No Mountains with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from March 2, 2022

Listener comments!
	🦝 11:59am Jan Turkenburg: Hi everyone!
	12:01pm MHLee: Hi jan
	🦝 12:01pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	12:02pm worldsworstrecords: Love this!
	🦝 12:02pm Candy-O'67: Hey Jan, MHLee!
	🦝 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Darryl!
	12:03pm worldsworstrecords: hey there Jan and all you fellow No Mountaineers!
	🦝 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Candy!
	12:06pm MHLee: That's a favorite from me
	🦝 12:10pm Candy-O'67: Hey worldsworstrecords!
	12:10pm worldsworstrecords: best Eurovision song EVER
	🦝 12:12pm Jan Turkenburg: I probably must agree :-)
	12:18pm MHLee: Power metal I respect a bit
	12:27pm MHLee: Epic Games just bought bandcamp
	12:28pm worldsworstrecords: is that a good thing?
	12:30pm MHLee: It concerns me a bit
	12:39pm MHLee: When dd Golden Earring form?
	12:41pm worldsworstrecords: like 1965 or something?
	12:41pm worldsworstrecords: Oh, earlier... 1961!
	🦝 12:42pm Jan Turkenburg: yep...
	12:42pm MHLee: That's a long run! I was thinking 1967 was early!
	🦝 12:43pm Jan Turkenburg: But their first release was in 1965 and that was when the 's' was still attached and Barry Hay hadn't joined yet.
	🦝 1:05pm Jan Turkenburg: It's relatively quiet today :-)
	1:08pm worldsworstrecords: I thought this didn't sound very Mouth y!
	🦝 1:08pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	🦝 1:09pm Jan Turkenburg: Guess what's next? LOL!
	1:09pm worldsworstrecords: lol!
	1:11pm worldsworstrecords: 'in' the cemetery, surely? ;-)
	🦝 1:12pm Jan Turkenburg: They're singing 'on' as i hear it...
	1:12pm worldsworstrecords: They are... but they shouldn't be
	🦝 1:12pm Jan Turkenburg: www.discogs.com...
	🦝 1:13pm Jan Turkenburg: In Dutch it would be the equivalent of 'on'...
	🦝 1:14pm Jan Turkenburg: De rijkste man op het kerkhof. Additional Dutch word of the week: kerkhof... :-(
	1:14pm MHLee: kerkhof... church something
	🦝 1:15pm Jan Turkenburg: 'the court behind the church/church's backyard
	🦝 1:16pm Jan Turkenburg: church's courtyard?
	1:16pm worldsworstrecords: interesting
	1:17pm worldsworstrecords: crypt? graveyard?
	1:18pm StringOFperils: Hello, Jan. HOF etymology > From Middle Low German hof, from Old Saxon hof, from Proto-West Germanic hof, from Proto-Germanic hufą, cognate with German Hof (“yard, court, farmyard”), Dutch hof (“yard, court, garden”), Old Norse hof (“shrine; court”). Doublet of hov (“shrine, temple”)
	🦝 1:18pm Jan Turkenburg: I think crypt is 'crypte' in Dutch, as a smal building on a graveyard where richer people lay buried.
	🦝 1:20pm Jan Turkenburg: I know there is an interesting history about on the word kerkhof, because 'hof' normally means courtyard, or a particular kind of square/place surrounded by houses.
	🦝 1:23pm Jan Turkenburg: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	🦝 1:27pm Jan Turkenburg: Hiekikkowokan = dialect for "he's looking back at you" (as I understand it, that is...)
	1:27pm Mr Fab: crazy busy this morn - my bike got stolen and had to take my daughter to school in a taxi! - but thanks for the groovy moosic today, Jan.
	1:28pm Listener Robert: That was easy enough for English speakers who are into Germanic paganism. Kerk is close to English kirk, i.e. church. Hof is a word that's been in use for some years now to mean a house of worship, but I learned only recently it doesn't mean the house itself, but the space adjacent to or around it -- the lot that it's on.
	🦝 1:29pm Jan Turkenburg: Wow, disaster struck, Mr Fab :-( Hi Listener Robert!
	1:32pm Listener Robert: I see now there's a whole Wikipedia entry on it -- en.wikipedia.org...
	🦝 1:33pm Jan Turkenburg: Ah, thanks Robert. I love it when a program goes educational this way!
	1:33pm StringOFperils: So...Hasselhof would imply the location of a pain-in-the-ass? Oh, Baywatch.
	🦝 1:36pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey StringOFperils!
	1:37pm StringOFperils: Hi again, Jan! Happy that you're on THAT side of Europe today. Hope you're doing well.
	1:39pm Listener Robert: "ver-" is a German and Yiddish prefix for a perfect passive participle, so if "koop" means "sale", "verkoop[t]" would be "sale[d]". So if as you're telling us, "uit" means out, then the construction of "uitverkoop" is very interesting! It must conceive of "out" as an intensifier.
	🦝 1:41pm Jan Turkenburg: kopen = buy/buying , verkopen = sell(ing) De koop = The Purchase (also: aankoop)
	1:41pm Listener Robert: Maybe similar to he English construct, "outsized", where the "out" means something beyond the usual. So a reduction in price beyond the usual.
	🦝 1:42pm Jan Turkenburg: uitverkoop is selling out, I guess? When a shopkeeper wants to get rid of his old stock.
	1:43pm Listener Robert: Oh, "out" in the sense of a clearance, then.
	🦝 1:43pm Jan Turkenburg: exactly!
	1:43pm MHLee: clearance, yes I couldn't remember that word
	🦝 1:44pm Jan Turkenburg: same here, MHLee :-)
	1:45pm Listener Robert: Then "ver-" is related to the Latin-derived "per-" or "pur-" in the sense of "fully". But that may just be a coincidence.
	1:46pm worldsworstrecords: yay! Beatlecover!
	1:46pm Domenic: Beatles! yes!
	🦝 1:47pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Domenic!
	1:48pm worldsworstrecords: That was ace!
	1:48pm StringOFperils: In English, the phrase 'selling out' is shifted in the language to mean abandoning something principled or of moral/ethical value in return for money. Turning your back on your values.
	🦝 1:48pm Jan Turkenburg: ah, get it
	1:50pm StringOFperils: On sale, or For sale....usually
	1:51pm worldsworstrecords: This is ace too!
	1:51pm StringOFperils: Which is confusing for a non-English speaker, because of the nuance of meaning, because if something is being retailed/sold, it is, technically, for sale or on sale, or out on the shelf for sale anyway. English is the devil.
	🦝 1:52pm Jan Turkenburg: Kraaiennest = liturally Crow's Nest, in this case it refers to the name of a subway station in Amsterdam.
	1:53pm Listener Robert: Meanwhile, Wiktionary does not support an etymologic connection between the Germanic ver- on one hand and the Latin-derived per-, pur-, or por- on the other.
	🦝 1:53pm Jan Turkenburg: also: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	1:54pm MHLee: @SOP Selling out might also imply literally running out
	1:54pm Listener Robert: Yes, StringOfPerils, but "selling out" also means sacrificina all else for one goal.
	1:54pm worldsworstrecords: fabulous show tonight Jan... top marks!
	1:54pm StringOFperils: Oh, so cool. Old Amsterdam is so much like a ship. The warehouses are built like ships, by people who built ships. funny that the lowest point in the city, the subway, bears the same name as the highest point on a sailing ship. Dutch humour?
	1:55pm StringOFperils: No, Listener Robert, it does not. At least, not in North America.
	1:55pm worldsworstrecords: ... I parsed that as 'whorehouses are built like shit' :-D
	1:56pm Domenic: thanks for the show Jan!
	1:57pm worldsworstrecords: You're all more than welcome to come join me here next: wfmu.org...
	1:57pm StringOFperils: Thank you Jan!! It's been an education!
	1:57pm StringOFperils: ha ha ha WWR!
	1:58pm Mr Fab: ooh, I love "Both Sides Now." Another corker, thx jan!
	1:58pm Listener Robert: It's commonly encountered in sports and games. For instance, a team selling out on a blitz in football. That is, they leave themselves vulnerable to anything else.
	1:59pm StringOFperils: Selling yourself short.

Yes, We Have No Mountains with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from March 2, 2022

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Two hours of Dutch pop music history, live from the city of Zwolle in The Netherlands.

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Artist	Track	Year	Approx. start time
	intro "intro"
Ash Tray	Martian hop "Martian hop" by "Ash Tray"	1972	0:00:57 (Pop-up)
Beautiful Garden	Beauty is only skindeep	1970	0:04:47 (Pop-up)
The Phantoms	Tormented "Tormented" by "The Phantoms"	1965	0:07:34 (Pop-up)
Goldfingers (Jets)	Poupee de cir poupee de son	1965	0:10:27 (Pop-up)
ZWOLLE! "ZWOLLE!"
Van Moorst	WWIII - Counteraction "WWIII - Counteraction" by "Van Moorst"	2017	0:13:53 (Pop-up)
KouweMakkers	Discotheek "Discotheek" by "KouweMakkers"	2020	0:22:51 (Pop-up)

Cobra	What next "What next" by "Cobra"	1972	0:28:22 (Pop-up)
Boudewijn de Groot	Apocalyps "Apocalyps" by "Boudewijn de Groot"	1966	0:33:11 (Pop-up)
Golden Earring	Sound Of The Screaming Day	1967	0:36:47 (Pop-up)
Teenager Muziek Express "Teenager Muziek Express"
Rob de Nijs	Ya ya "Ya ya" by "Rob de Nijs"	1964	0:41:38 (Pop-up)
Blue Diamonds	Always "Always" by "Blue Diamonds"	1960	0:44:02 (Pop-up)
""
Jay Jays	I Got Love If You Want It	1966	0:46:06 (Pop-up)
Gruppo Sportivo	Police-dog "Police-dog" by "Gruppo Sportivo"	1980	0:49:04 (Pop-up)
Meindert Talma	Lena Zegt "Lena Zegt" by "Meindert Talma"	2017	0:53:32 (Pop-up)
Gotcha!	Bonesong "Bonesong" by "Gotcha!"	1993	0:58:14 (Pop-up)
Long Tall Ernie and The Shakers	Rock Little Sister	1972	1:06:41 (Pop-up)
Mouth & MacNeal	I Don't Wanna Be The Richest Man On The Cemetery	1973	1:10:19 (Pop-up)
Mekanik Kommando	Stop And Play "Stop And Play" by "Mekanik Kommando"	1982	1:13:35 (Pop-up)
Hauser Orkater	Entree Brussels "Entree Brussels" by "Hauser Orkater"	1978	1:17:20 (Pop-up)
Shocking Blue	Beggarman "Beggarman" by "Shocking Blue"	1968	1:23:20 (Pop-up)
Normaal	Hiekikkowokan [Live] "Hiekikkowokan [Live]" by "Normaal"	2007	1:25:45 (Pop-up)
Sandy Coast	North Canadian Paradise	1969	1:29:58 (Pop-up)
Dutch Word Of The Week	Uitverkoop		1:33:54 (Pop-up)
Robert-Jan Stips	No More Mondays "No More Mondays" by "Robert-Jan Stips"	1988	1:35:18 (Pop-up)
Spinvis & Saartje van Camp	La Danse Des Vagues	2014	1:39:30 (Pop-up)
Het Klein Orkest	Ze Ziet Me Niet "Ze Ziet Me Niet" by "Het Klein Orkest"	1985	1:41:50 (Pop-up)
Beatles Cover Of The Week "Beatles Cover Of The Week"
Drum-en Showfanfare 'Advendo' Sneek	Day tripper	1979	1:46:19 (Pop-up)

Ensemble Pittoresque	Artificials "Artificials" by "Ensemble Pittoresque"	1982	1:47:48 (Pop-up)
Sprookprekers	Kraaiennest "Kraaiennest" by "Sprookprekers"	1997	1:51:17 (Pop-up)
Herma Stappenbeld	De hemel van Zwolle	2001	1:56:38 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦝 11:59am Jan Turkenburg: Hi everyone!
	12:01pm MHLee: Hi jan
	🦝 12:01pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	12:02pm worldsworstrecords: Love this!
	🦝 12:02pm Candy-O'67: Hey Jan, MHLee!
	🦝 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: Hi Darryl!
	12:03pm worldsworstrecords: hey there Jan and all you fellow No Mountaineers!
	🦝 12:03pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Candy!
	12:06pm MHLee: That's a favorite from me
	🦝 12:10pm Candy-O'67: Hey worldsworstrecords!
	12:10pm worldsworstrecords: best Eurovision song EVER
	🦝 12:12pm Jan Turkenburg: I probably must agree :-)
	12:18pm MHLee: Power metal I respect a bit
	12:27pm MHLee: Epic Games just bought bandcamp
	12:28pm worldsworstrecords: is that a good thing?
	12:30pm MHLee: It concerns me a bit
	12:39pm MHLee: When dd Golden Earring form?
	12:41pm worldsworstrecords: like 1965 or something?
	12:41pm worldsworstrecords: Oh, earlier... 1961!
	🦝 12:42pm Jan Turkenburg: yep...
	12:42pm MHLee: That's a long run! I was thinking 1967 was early!
	🦝 12:43pm Jan Turkenburg: But their first release was in 1965 and that was when the 's' was still attached and Barry Hay hadn't joined yet.
	🦝 1:05pm Jan Turkenburg: It's relatively quiet today :-)
	1:08pm worldsworstrecords: I thought this didn't sound very Mouth y!
	🦝 1:08pm Jan Turkenburg: :-)
	🦝 1:09pm Jan Turkenburg: Guess what's next? LOL!
	1:09pm worldsworstrecords: lol!
	1:11pm worldsworstrecords: 'in' the cemetery, surely? ;-)
	🦝 1:12pm Jan Turkenburg: They're singing 'on' as i hear it...
	1:12pm worldsworstrecords: They are... but they shouldn't be
	🦝 1:12pm Jan Turkenburg: www.discogs.com...
	🦝 1:13pm Jan Turkenburg: In Dutch it would be the equivalent of 'on'...
	🦝 1:14pm Jan Turkenburg: De rijkste man op het kerkhof. Additional Dutch word of the week: kerkhof... :-(
	1:14pm MHLee: kerkhof... church something
	🦝 1:15pm Jan Turkenburg: 'the court behind the church/church's backyard
	🦝 1:16pm Jan Turkenburg: church's courtyard?
	1:16pm worldsworstrecords: interesting
	1:17pm worldsworstrecords: crypt? graveyard?
	1:18pm StringOFperils: Hello, Jan. HOF etymology > From Middle Low German hof, from Old Saxon hof, from Proto-West Germanic hof, from Proto-Germanic hufą, cognate with German Hof (“yard, court, farmyard”), Dutch hof (“yard, court, garden”), Old Norse hof (“shrine; court”). Doublet of hov (“shrine, temple”)
	🦝 1:18pm Jan Turkenburg: I think crypt is 'crypte' in Dutch, as a smal building on a graveyard where richer people lay buried.
	🦝 1:20pm Jan Turkenburg: I know there is an interesting history about on the word kerkhof, because 'hof' normally means courtyard, or a particular kind of square/place surrounded by houses.
	🦝 1:23pm Jan Turkenburg: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	🦝 1:27pm Jan Turkenburg: Hiekikkowokan = dialect for "he's looking back at you" (as I understand it, that is...)
	1:27pm Mr Fab: crazy busy this morn - my bike got stolen and had to take my daughter to school in a taxi! - but thanks for the groovy moosic today, Jan.
	1:28pm Listener Robert: That was easy enough for English speakers who are into Germanic paganism. Kerk is close to English kirk, i.e. church. Hof is a word that's been in use for some years now to mean a house of worship, but I learned only recently it doesn't mean the house itself, but the space adjacent to or around it -- the lot that it's on.
	🦝 1:29pm Jan Turkenburg: Wow, disaster struck, Mr Fab :-( Hi Listener Robert!
	1:32pm Listener Robert: I see now there's a whole Wikipedia entry on it -- en.wikipedia.org...
	🦝 1:33pm Jan Turkenburg: Ah, thanks Robert. I love it when a program goes educational this way!
	1:33pm StringOFperils: So...Hasselhof would imply the location of a pain-in-the-ass? Oh, Baywatch.
	🦝 1:36pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey StringOFperils!
	1:37pm StringOFperils: Hi again, Jan! Happy that you're on THAT side of Europe today. Hope you're doing well.
	1:39pm Listener Robert: "ver-" is a German and Yiddish prefix for a perfect passive participle, so if "koop" means "sale", "verkoop[t]" would be "sale[d]". So if as you're telling us, "uit" means out, then the construction of "uitverkoop" is very interesting! It must conceive of "out" as an intensifier.
	🦝 1:41pm Jan Turkenburg: kopen = buy/buying , verkopen = sell(ing) De koop = The Purchase (also: aankoop)
	1:41pm Listener Robert: Maybe similar to he English construct, "outsized", where the "out" means something beyond the usual. So a reduction in price beyond the usual.
	🦝 1:42pm Jan Turkenburg: uitverkoop is selling out, I guess? When a shopkeeper wants to get rid of his old stock.
	1:43pm Listener Robert: Oh, "out" in the sense of a clearance, then.
	🦝 1:43pm Jan Turkenburg: exactly!
	1:43pm MHLee: clearance, yes I couldn't remember that word
	🦝 1:44pm Jan Turkenburg: same here, MHLee :-)
	1:45pm Listener Robert: Then "ver-" is related to the Latin-derived "per-" or "pur-" in the sense of "fully". But that may just be a coincidence.
	1:46pm worldsworstrecords: yay! Beatlecover!
	1:46pm Domenic: Beatles! yes!
	🦝 1:47pm Jan Turkenburg: Hey Domenic!
	1:48pm worldsworstrecords: That was ace!
	1:48pm StringOFperils: In English, the phrase 'selling out' is shifted in the language to mean abandoning something principled or of moral/ethical value in return for money. Turning your back on your values.
	🦝 1:48pm Jan Turkenburg: ah, get it
	1:50pm StringOFperils: On sale, or For sale....usually
	1:51pm worldsworstrecords: This is ace too!
	1:51pm StringOFperils: Which is confusing for a non-English speaker, because of the nuance of meaning, because if something is being retailed/sold, it is, technically, for sale or on sale, or out on the shelf for sale anyway. English is the devil.
	🦝 1:52pm Jan Turkenburg: Kraaiennest = liturally Crow's Nest, in this case it refers to the name of a subway station in Amsterdam.
	1:53pm Listener Robert: Meanwhile, Wiktionary does not support an etymologic connection between the Germanic ver- on one hand and the Latin-derived per-, pur-, or por- on the other.
	🦝 1:53pm Jan Turkenburg: also: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	1:54pm MHLee: @SOP Selling out might also imply literally running out
	1:54pm Listener Robert: Yes, StringOfPerils, but "selling out" also means sacrificina all else for one goal.
	1:54pm worldsworstrecords: fabulous show tonight Jan... top marks!
	1:54pm StringOFperils: Oh, so cool. Old Amsterdam is so much like a ship. The warehouses are built like ships, by people who built ships. funny that the lowest point in the city, the subway, bears the same name as the highest point on a sailing ship. Dutch humour?
	1:55pm StringOFperils: No, Listener Robert, it does not. At least, not in North America.
	1:55pm worldsworstrecords: ... I parsed that as 'whorehouses are built like shit' :-D
	1:56pm Domenic: thanks for the show Jan!
	1:57pm worldsworstrecords: You're all more than welcome to come join me here next: wfmu.org...
	1:57pm StringOFperils: Thank you Jan!! It's been an education!
	1:57pm StringOFperils: ha ha ha WWR!
	1:58pm Mr Fab: ooh, I love "Both Sides Now." Another corker, thx jan!
	1:58pm Listener Robert: It's commonly encountered in sports and games. For instance, a team selling out on a blitz in football. That is, they leave themselves vulnerable to anything else.
	1:59pm StringOFperils: Selling yourself short.

Yes, We Have No Mountains with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from March 2, 2022

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