WFMU: The Hour of Crap with Don-O: Playlist from March 19, 2022

Listener comments!
	6:02pm DJ Babs: Hello Don-O! Let's get to some crap!
	3:03pm Listener Robert: Craig Baldwin's movie "Sonic Outlaws" covered at least part of this ground. I saw it when it was in a theater.
	5:01pm spodiodi: Don-O! let the crap flow!
	5:02pm Otis Fodder: Diddly shhhhhh Diddly shhhhhhh it
	5:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Dear Kasey. LOOK OUT!!
	5:06pm Dolor-X: SHANNON! I’m gonna cry…, 🐶🏝❤️‍🩹
	5:10pm Milkies: FN hilarious
	5:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good Hello Snugglers!!
	5:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Yea, you ARE doing promos inside the promos!
	5:11pm Mr Fab: Yo Don-O, Here for four hours of goddam death dedications.
	5:12pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Damned selfish pets!!
	5:12pm Otis Fodder: Good Golly!
	5:12pm Dolor-X: Ponderous
	5:19pm Listener Robert: But the thing about the Casey Kasem out takes is that nobody can avoid being sypathetic to the guy, because we've all had those times when we wanted to explode like that. It made him more human.
	5:25pm Don-O Snuggle-O: True, but Casey as a much cleaner and more professional image to up hold.
	5:32pm Listener Robert: Maybe the psychology of some doesn't comport with this, but I think the first thing most people think of when they perceive an image like that is to think of its opposite. And then when they do get an example of the opposite, it's like a relief. And new respect, because when you realize what he has to hold in to project that image, it's more impressive. It's like when you learn an announcer is a stutterer.
	5:35pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Image is everything in the entertainment industry and I suspect Casey falls very much in this clause. Plus he got all into 'positivity' when re responding to the groups and protesting fans.
	5:38pm Don-O Snuggle-O: CORRECTION: Please ignore my verbal bellyaching about my voice as I spent 24 hour marathon over two years ago talking about all things Xanadu with Otis. Well, I can blame THAT on him, too.
	5:45pm MHLee: MADE IT
	5:49pm Don-O Snuggle-O: The next track is the official, illegal, starting gun of the shitstorm.
	5:50pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Enjoyed this trip down Nland memory lane, Don-O!
	5:56pm Mr Fab: Don’t leave yet- There’s THREE more hours of Crap on today’s very special Special, Kenzo!
	5:56pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ALL 4 hours of this chapter. You're all dedicated or crazy....from the guy who put this silly thing together in the first place....
	5:58pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Thanks for making this Don-O, though if this is supposed to be definitive, I am curious as to why you didnt reach out to us for some up to date comments! :)
	6:02pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: About Casey's behavior caught on those tapes we used - years after all this went down I spoke at length with Dr Demento, who worked in the same building as Casey when these tapes were made. He said that Casey acted like that towards his engineers all the time, and had quite a bad rep around the building. And in an earlier years interview in the Boulder Weekly about our U2 record, Casey said that he "wasn't like that anymore," that kind of behavior was behind him. My educated guess is that he had an issue with powders of some sort going up his nose, but eventually got over that habit.
	6:04pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I didn't think you guys were interested in some unoffical like this, so I didn't bug you guys. Plus all the dates and all I had went 'poof' in a house Fire last year....which included my physical copy of TGAFEAWGAS. Sorry for not adding the 'unofficial' part in the discription.
	6:04pm Listener Robert: Whatever it was, it makes his produced product from that time all the more impressive for everyone in its production.
	👻 6:04pm WR: I wish I was listening, hope it gets archived. Well, bio break over. Laters.
	6:05pm Buddy Runyan: The actual CB radio I used to record angry CB radio operators. Still looks new! dumb.negativland.com...
	6:07pm Don-O Snuggle-O: All but the last 20 minutes will be archive on WFMU. The rest. hmmm... I might put it up on Archive dot org...See what happens....
	6:07pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Oh, we admired Casey in many ways. He was a decent celebrity activist, and certainly tried to do some good with his fame.
	6:08pm Listener Robert: Anyway, I do recommend everyone see "Sonic Outlaws". It's about this and approximately 3 other issues having to do with unauthorized reception, copying, sampling, and distribution. And Craig Baldwin ought to know, he's a master at repurposing stuff.
	6:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Agreed. Sonic Outlaws is a worthy musical doc! I saw it in the Nuart Theater near Westwood.
	6:10pm Zipperhead7: Please Please Please archive this show! I said Please! Please! Please! (drops to floor as dog rushes out and covers him with cape)
	6:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ....which will be heard (in part) later in this show....
	6:11pm Zipperhead7: OK I see prayers were answered. Keep shoveling that crap, boys!
	6:12pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Too much Snuggles for you, Z!
	6:12pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Don-O, you've certainly done some impressive crate digging to come up with those old OTE bits and old interviews with us. Hats off to you! There has been some kinda fascinating stuff about the whole insane saga (well, to us, at least) that came to light years after our book came out, but too much to go into here.
	6:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I do not doubt it, Mr, Negativland.
	6:14pm Rich in Washington: can't get the picture of Casey as Shaggy with powders of some sort going up his nose out of my head
	6:15pm Don-O Snuggle-O: In fact, the Mark Hosler lecture I use here (from YouTube) offered no information on where and when.
	6:15pm Rich in Washington: Hi Don-O! Hi Buddy! Hi TGIFNAWGAS! Hi everybody!
	6:16pm Don-O Snuggle-O: It's all about that image, Rich!
	6:16pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Zoinks, Scoob! Hell, Shaggy acted like he was coked up all the time!
	6:17pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Heeeeeeeey, Rich!...and everyone else!
	6:18pm Don-O Snuggle-O: BTW, I'm currently watching plans landing at LAX live on YT.....
	6:19pm Rich in Washington: Oh, BTW, thanks for turning me onto that livestream, Don-O! I recently hijacked the video displays at my work and put them on all of them.
	6:20pm Otis Fodder: Moved over from listening while doing laundry to flashing back while cooking. Top show Don-O!
	6:21pm Rich in Washington: another good one is Shibuya Crossing in Tokyo, the busiest pedestrian crossing in Japan.
	6:21pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Now YOU'RE giving me streaming ideas, Rich!!
	6:22pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: We were recently interviewed at length about the U2 EP for an Audible podcast called SHELVED, which they say will be out in a few months. There are also some funny stories about the actual recording of The Weatherman's vocals (on here as Buddy Runyan) which have never been told, but not for that podcast. And Buddy- very nice to see that CB radio! Which of course looks brand new.
	6:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Otis, YOU reminded me to do some laundry!
	6:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: "younsters:, :clean-cut"............reeeeeeeeeeeeally!?!?
	6:22pm Rich in Washington: I love that Don's voice lives forever in the Archive dot org archives. Everyone knows about the 24/7 random OTE stream, right? A labor of love of OTE fan Rebecca Loomis.
	6:27pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Rich- Not aware of that random OTE stream from Rebecca Loomis! Sounds like we ought to have a link to it on our web page.
	6:31pm Rich in Washington: It's here: bananavision.tv... You have to scroll down to the bottom for the links to it.
	6:33pm Rich in Washington: It's wonderful. The audio plays server side, so you can listen on multiple devices around the house and they're all playing the same episode, rather than refresh and you get a different episode. Make sense. Probably not. I'm such a geek.
	6:33pm Buddy Runyan: Oh well, Certain Men.
	6:34pm Rich in Washington: Indeed, Buddy.
	6:36pm spodiodi: let them
	6:36pm Don-O Snuggle-O: We are all geeks for noise here!
	6:36pm Listener Robert: I love that Pepsi song, with all its word play. When Constant Comment won't shut up....
	6:37pm Rich in Washington: Hey, spodiodi!
	6:37pm spodiodi: aloha, Rich in Washington!
	6:39pm Rich in Washington: I often sleep to the OTE stream and have some of the most bizarre dreams. I'm usually awakened by some receptacle caller blurting something and then loudly hanging up their phone.
	6:40pm Listener Robert: Rich, not only do I ot know about that stream, I don't even know what "OTE" stands for. I hope the answer is not the same as given by DUH.
	6:41pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I wonder if he found out which engineer who did it.
	6:41pm Rich in Washington: Oh. Sorry, Listener Robert! Over The Edge, the radio show that Negativland member Don Joyce did for decades on KPFA up until his death in 2015.
	6:42pm Rich in Washington: It's still being done by Negativland member Wobbly as well as a guy named KRob. They sort of trade off weeks.
	6:43pm Listener Robert: You mean it now plays on a continuous loop? I'm afraid to try,I might never get out of it.
	6:44pm Rich in Washington: No. New shows are still on KPFA in Thursday nights/Friday Mornings but someone created a livestream which plays archives of the radio program going back to the 80s.
	6:45pm Listener Robert: I shouldn't be surprised, though. The Hound has a continuous loop of his shows that he's still adding to; same with Tim Weisburg.
	6:46pm Rich in Washington: Oh! I did not know that! I want to make one of those when I die so people can be confused by my radio shows long after I'm gone.
	6:47pm Rich in Washington: I recently found the actual aircheck (sans meltdown) of Casey introducing the 'goddamn death dedication' and it was for the Henry Gross song Shannon.
	6:51pm Mr Fab: that's what started the show today, RIch!
	6:51pm Don-O Snuggle-O: HA! I opened this show with that track!
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: CD liner notes sez: Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 1993
	6:55pm Listener Robert: For some people it's all about which foot the shoe is on. I have a friend who plays fast and loose copying graphics into his for-sale (actually for-donations) work, but then wanted to see how he could stop whoever put his published stuff onto ScribD. Yeah, he's shallow like that, though a very smart and creative guy.
	6:57pm Rich in Washington: Hey, something I've always wondered: Did Greg Ginn every make good on his threat to release a Negativland parody, as mentioned in the Letter U (etc) book?
	6:59pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Oh, yea. OJland....or something or other. I actually e-mailed the SST and never got a response.
	7:00pm Otis Fodder: Roscoe/Surface Noise and Stupidland. Been a long time since tape-trading this one around or almost 30 years back. Need to get another copy of this gem, flashing back... back.. back...
	7:00pm Listener Robert: I asked myself how you could either parody or satirize Negativland's oeuvre, but Mad magazine cranked out shit like satires of satire routinely.
	7:02pm Otis Fodder: Art Damage, aka Brian Damage aka Phycus from Montreal (later in the band Unireverse).
	7:04pm Mr Fab: Listener Robert: I was wondering the same thing, how could satirize such arch-satirists as Negativland? But apart from MAD, SCTV did a pretty wicked SNL parody. I can imagine someone doing a Weird Al parody.
	7:07pm Listener Robert: What was SCTV's SNL parody?
	7:17pm Mr Fab: Oh I just remember one of them was doing a Belushi parody, and said that he couldn't do something "...because I'm stoned!" And the mock SNL audience whooped and cheered.
	7:23pm Aitch: Bonus Don-O! Hey all
	7:24pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good Hello, Aitch!
	7:25pm Rich in Washington: Aitch!
	7:28pm Mr Fab: It’s the LAST DAY of the Sheena’s Marathon - if you haven’t pledged yet, NOW’S THE TIME! Don't miss our Premium - the Sheena’s CD/download is packed with tracks not available ANYWHERE else.
	7:28pm Aitch: Hard to sit down already Mr Fab
	7:28pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Pass the wallet, y'all!!
	7:30pm ironybread: "I think no harm was done. What do you think?"
	7:31pm ironybread: Want to hear the sources for ol' Crosley's razor tape? Enjoy: taylorjessen.blogspot.com...
	7:32pm ironybread: Rich: No, Greg Ginn's great campaign to discredit and embarrass Negativland started and ended with his release of the "Live" CD in which he misspelled the name of the band.
	7:33pm ironybread: Bless Dick & Bert
	7:34pm Mr Fab: Thanks for that link, ironybread. I am STILL finding goodies from your blog.
	7:36pm ironybread: It's true, throw $25000 at me and I'm almost guaranteed never to bother you again.
	7:39pm Rich in Washington: While I'm pretty much a Negativland completist, I never did score that SST Negativeland Live CD. I understand the mix of that release was really poor as well.
	7:41pm ironybread: Greg Ginn mastered "Negativeland" from a cassette, basically as a "fuck you" to Negativland. I bought it only because it's historically important (in the same way that gay men bought Anita Bryant's autobiography; it's more for the evidence locker).
	7:48pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Speaking of which!
	7:48pm ironybread: Don't miss the epic music video for "Mermaid" by Tim Maloney (who was a Disney employee at the time he made this, and edited it using Disney hardware) www.youtube.com...
	7:49pm ironybread: (All the cats in the video are Tim's own cats! They're adorable.)
	7:55pm Mr Fab: I feel bad about this whole mess. I don't feel bad for U2, but SST was a huge part of my musical life in the '80s. But I know - apart from this, Ginn is also notorious for not paying his artists royalties. But he really introduced Negativland to a much greater audience (inc me) as well as all those other great SST acts. And at least he didn't go all Phil Spector.
	7:57pm Rich in Washington: there's still time
	7:57pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I suspect this whole episode changed pretty much everybody, especially with all of the lawyers in the middle of it all. Lawyers cab do that.
	7:58pm Mr Fab: Ha, true, Rich.
	7:59pm Buddy Runyan: Found my matchstick!
	7:59pm Rich in Washington: Oh wow, Don-O! had I known you were doing this, I coulda sent you the audio of a live Q&A that Negativland's then lawyer Kohel Haver did after a screening of Sonic Outlaws I did in Portland! It was pretty hilarious. He had some good stories.
	8:00pm spodiodi: Nardwuar <3
	8:00pm Buddy Runyan: I’m “some other guy.”
	8:01pm Rich in Washington: Hi again, Buddy!
	8:01pm ironybread: Legativ Land. (Spoiler: Nardwuar is kind of an idiot.)
	8:01pm ironybread: Hi Buddy!!!
	8:01pm Rich in Washington: Legitivman
	8:01pm Don-O Snuggle-O: A very noisy idiot!
	8:01pm Buddy Runyan: Hi, Rich and ironybread!
	8:02pm Don-O Snuggle-O: UT! You're awake, Buddy!
	8:03pm Rich in Washington: Nardwuar's nuts! Love his interviews but somehow wonder how he's still alive (and not even talking about his health issues).
	8:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I suspect Nardwar has too much energy to read.
	8:03pm spodiodi: i should have listened first </3 (but i still do)
	8:04pm Buddy Runyan: Mark just told me just a moment ago, “Read the book!”
	8:04pm Rich in Washington: The episodes where he makes these badass Hip Hop dudes practically tear up with the sentimental things he dredges up from their pasts.
	8:04pm ironybread: Yes, folks, if you don't own "Fair Use" please head directly to Negativland's site and buy one of those babies. It's not just educational, it's HILARIOUS
	8:06pm Rich in Washington: Indeed! I'm looking through mine right now.
	8:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: There is some screaming involved. It must be a Nardward interview....or fight.
	8:07pm ironybread: (Spoiler: Grg Gnn is NOT a good person)
	8:08pm spodiodi: olo
	8:08pm Rich in Washington: Oh that's hilarious! When I went to buy a license to exhibit a print of Sonic Outlaws as a fundraiser for KBOO, Baldwin came back with 'KBOO? I LOVE you guys!' and granted the license for a mere $66.6.
	8:08pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ....and living in Texas......
	8:09pm Rich in Washington: Yeah, the list of bands who used to be on SST who've had to sue them over royalties or breach of contract is insane.
	8:10pm Listener Robert: I just about wore out Tribulation 99 rewatching!
	8:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I get the feeling this wasn't planned and N. cornered them in the alley way......
	8:12pm Buddy Runyan: Got another brain so I can be a half-wit!
	8:13pm Listener Robert: As to how Nardhuar can still be alive after all these encounters, why do you think he's called The Human Serviette?
	8:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I almost wore out my VHS copies of Tribulation 99 and Sonic Outlaws. Thank goodness for DVDs.
	8:15pm Rich in Washington: When my wife used to be a librarian, she brought Tribulation 99 home on VHS after a patron returned it and complained about it.
	8:16pm ironybread: You know what they say: When the patrons complain, don't pour that VHS down the drain! Take it out of circulation, Keep that copy of Tribulation
	8:17pm Don-O Snuggle-O: One More Hour To Go! I Wanna Be Sedated!!!
	8:19pm Rich in Washington: There is a legend (which is probably best left a legend) that The Edge secretly paid for the production of Negativland's next album Free.
	8:19pm Rich in Washington: Have some lemon and honey, Don-O!
	8:20pm ironybread: Shit, I'd better ask Mark about that the next time I talk to him, Rich
	8:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: O. P. P. Other Peoples P*ssy. Other Peoples Properly.
	8:22pm spodiodi: this is hilarious
	8:24pm Rich in Washington: I'm afraid to ask things like that out of fear I'll sound like Brian Johns of Money Talks (second SCTV reference of the day).
	8:24pm Rich in Washington: Love this bit. Buddy, you lawbreaker, you!
	👻 8:26pm Cp304: The weather man
	8:26pm Buddy Runyan: I wonder where those two guys are now?
	8:27pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Het, Cp304! Welcome to this stupid silly party!!
	8:28pm Don-O Snuggle-O: They are probably Republicans these days.
	👻 8:28pm Cp304: Thanks don-o!! I almost forgot with this stupid March madness stuff
	8:28pm Mr Fab: for those of you who haven't seen the film "Sonic Outlaws," right now The Weatherman is adjusting antennas and whatnot as we listen to this conversation coming thru the radio.
	8:29pm Listener Robert: I used to do a lot of unauthorized receiving of FM subcarrier programs using Bruce Elving's Super Snooper, which he built and sold more or less to protest the law against unauthorized reception of programs sent via broadcast FM subcarriers. Nobody to y knowledge was ever prosecuted for doing so, because it really was a victimless crime, except in the few cases of people stealing Muzak. The vast majority of content on subcarriers was not pay radio.
	8:30pm Buddy Runyan: Being republican makes sex, sexier!
	8:31pm Don-O Snuggle-O: "eh!"
	8:32pm Otis Fodder: Ah, Nardwuar... his stint on WFMU was fun a decade back with a lot of interviews, wfmu.org...
	👻 8:32pm Cp304: F snuggles
	8:33pm Otis Fodder: Sent this to Don on cassette in 1996 for OTE.
	👻 8:33pm Cp304: @ Fab, I have not seen sonic outlaws, I’ll check for it
	8:33pm Otis Fodder: Samples from an episode of Blossom.
	8:34pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Check the Slacker box, Otis
	8:35pm Listener Robert: But then, because it's how lawyers make their money, holders of intellectual property often seem to act (law-wise) against their own best interests. Like the Chicago hotel that was enjoined (or threatened into acting as if they were enjoined) against advertising their Monopoly tournament as such. Instead they advertised it as a Monotony tournament.
	8:35pm Otis Fodder: Had Sonic Outlaws on VHS in the mid-90s in a house with rotating roommates. Should watch again, loved it, was on the tube a bit back then.
	8:36pm Mr Fab: I remember a Nardwuar inerview where he kept calling him "Lemmy from Motorhead" and Lemmy kept saying, you can just call me Lemmy, you don't have to keep saying "Lemmy from Motorhead" and Nardwuar would go, "Ok, Lemmy from Motorhead, let me ask you -" "You don't have to call me Lemmy from Motorhead!" "Ok, sorry, Lemmy from Motorhead..."
	8:40pm Listener Robert: IP lawyers act as if anything that MIGHT be considered dilution of one's trademark, copyright, or patent, no matter how harmless, needs to be protected against because of the possibility of loss of rights via failure to defend them. But I don't see how Monopoly could've won against a hotel which, after all, depended on players BUYING the game to play it in the tournament, where the game's reputation would in no way be hurt by advertising it on the marquee.
	8:41pm Buddy Runyan: Here’s the radio I used to receive analog cellular phone calls. dumb.negativland.com...
	8:42pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I know this and he rest of these NCLL tracks were recorded at the Belly Up Bar in San Diego.
	8:47pm ironybread: "Fuckin' ponderous!" "Music radio 1-3-8 oh fuck!" "Castles don't have phones!" "Hey Riff, show us your mummy!" #NegativlandU2 #RockyHorror #SameThing
	8:49pm ironybread: (For listeners at home, Mark, who is wearing gloves, is cutting off the fingers of one hand one by one. Blood is spraying everywhere.)
	8:50pm Listener Robert: Anybody here remember how much the marathon brought in on its last day last year? I'm trying to handicap whether the goal is still reachable by the formal close of the marathon this year.
	8:52pm spodiodi: the images came before i asked. i never had to say a word! too cool, Buddy Runyan! thank you!
	8:52pm Zipperhead7: Jumping in 13 minutes from the end, but better late than never. Interesting points about copyright. I tried to license some clips from BBC and CBS for a documentary, and they work through a clearinghouse that wanted $120 a second! All of it was work-for-hire, so of course the people who actually created it wouldn't see a dime.
	8:54pm ironybread: A stock video house in Chicago wanted over $120K for 45 minutes of Firesign Theatre footage ten years ago. How did we solve this problem? We waited for them to go out of business & sell their archive to the Library of Congress, and bought the footage from the LOC in high def for $450.
	8:56pm spodiodi: thanks for the Negativland special, Don-O! thanks and love for the Negatilvand, Negativland!
	8:56pm Don-O Snuggle-O: My last break! We're getting some-what near the end. 20 minutes ta goo!!
	8:57pm Buddy Runyan: spodiodi, thank you!
	8:57pm ironybread: PLEASE GIVE
	8:57pm spodiodi: ah good, Don-O! the huge clock suckered me
	8:58pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Now let's see of the FMU archive is going to save the rest of this show. See what happens!
	8:59pm Otis Fodder: Very stu... very stu... very stupendous and anything but dumb!
	9:00pm asheville jon: Fantastic show!
	👻 9:00pm Cp304: Cheers
	9:02pm ironybread: Right before Don Joyce started doing "How Radio Wasn't Done", Mark Hosler told me in an interview that by fighting back against the "U2" lawsuits, Negativland intended to send a message to the record industry, and this was it: "If you fuck with us, we’re just going to humiliate you and turn you into an art project and make you look STUPID, and you’re not going to get any money out of us anyway, so please—just leave us alone. And it worked."
	9:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: My thanks to all for stick it all out for this 4 hour fanboy fest. Another round o' thanks to Buddy and Mr, Negativland for popping up. I hope you guys don't have to do this again. After THIS, I'm either going to eat or nap...or both. This is Arizona after all.
	9:04pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good damned for you, Mr. Negativland!!
	9:04pm Zipperhead7: I'll take the 180G's over Bobby McFerrin any day
	9:05pm spodiodi: had been excitedly waiting for this show cheers, The Weatherman, This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit!
	9:05pm Buddy Runyan: Thank you, Don-O Snuggle-O!
	9:05pm Don-O Snuggle-O: WE give a shit!!!
	9:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: The final track!!
	9:06pm Mr Fab: ironybread: that's hilarious. I did notice that Pepsi was noticeably mum after "Dispepsi" came out.
	9:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Hey, Buddy. Yu know anything about this track?
	9:07pm Buddy Runyan: Uh-oh, looking for my goddamn matchstick again!
	9:08pm Mr Fab: In mere moments the Sheena's Marathon will be over. THANKS to you all, the crap will flow for another year.
	9:08pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Burnin' It Down like Byrne!!
	9:09pm ironybread: I have no idea who the string quartet is here, but I'm going to say Kronos Quartet, because that's exactly the kind of unsubstantiated rumor I should be propagating. #YouKnowIBelieveIt #NoIGuessIDontBelieveIt
	9:09pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Additional thanks to Mr. Fab and FMU for putting up with this mess! Sorry about this!
	9:10pm ironybread: #IShouldBeShotPointBlankInTheStamperTonight
	👻 9:10pm Cp304: ❤️
	9:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Ooops! THIS is the final track! Sorry about that
	9:11pm Buddy Runyan: Lick your stamper!
	9:12pm Mr Fab: ironybread: there was that goofy Vitamin String Quartet that cranked out album after album of "String Quartet Tribute To..." Maybe them?
	9:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Hell, I don't even remember where I git that track!!
	9:14pm Mr Fab: Tom Schnable on KCRW was fooled by the CD which called the uncensored version the "Radio Mix." Oops. After a minute or so, he faded it down, har har.
	👻 9:15pm Cp304: Sis said “that is is driven me nuts”. I says, you gotta here kasey say f snuggles.. then you’ll understand
	9:16pm ironybread: Fab: Well I don't see a String Quartet Tribute to Negativland on Discogs, but it's a possibility.

The Hour of Crap with Don-O: Playlist from March 19, 2022

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March 19, 2022: 2022 marks the 31 anniversary of the infamous U2 Negativland. Consider this as a 4 hour audio documentary of what lead up to, during and after this clusterf*uck of indi culture history...well as a series of WFMU marathon plugs, but you know THAT by now..

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	Comments	Approx. start time
Casey Kesem and Henry Gross	Actual Dead Dog Dedication/Shannon			MP3		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
AT40 outtakes	Casey Kesem "Casey Kesem" by "AT40 outtakes"			MP3		0:06:52 (Pop-up)
Don Joyce (interview)	Any Copyright Problems?			MP3	1989	0:13:28 (Pop-up)
Mark Hosler	THAT tape "THAT tape" by "Mark Hosler"			MP3		0:14:32 (Pop-up)
Negativland	I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For	These Guys Are From England & Who Gives A Shit	Seelard	CD	Over The Edge (12/31/89) KPFK-FM	0:23:09 (Pop-up)

Negativland	U2 (live) "U2 (live)" by "Negativland"	These Guys Are From England & Who Gives A Shit	Seelard	CD		0:35:39 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Special Edit Radio Mix I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For	These Guys Are From England & Who Gives A Shit	Seelard	CD		0:53:26 (Pop-up)
Don Joyce	reading of the lawsuit (pt. 1)	OTE: Celebrity Night - September 1991		MP3		0:59:10 (Pop-up)

Don Joyce	reading of the lawsuit (pt. 2)	OTE: Celebrity Night - September 1991				1:05:54 (Pop-up)
Mark Hosler	The Follow-Up "The Follow-Up" by "Mark Hosler"	unknown		MP3		1:30:03 (Pop-up)
Casey Kesem	...on Negativland "...on Negativland" by "Casey Kesem"			MP3		1:38:32 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Long Distance Dedication #1/Copying Is A Criminal Act (live)	These Guys Are From England & Who Gives A Shit	Seelard	MP3		1:40:26 (Pop-up)

Father Alominato & Art Damage	Phone Introduction/Assult On The Island Of U2	FU2: A Tribute To Negativland		MP3		1:56:49 (Pop-up)
Rev. Ivan Stang & Violence & The Sacred	Deposition/Give Yourself Away	FU2: A Tribute To Negativland		MP3		2:01:02 (Pop-up)
Don Joyce	Crosley Bendix Discusses The Copyright Act	Dead Dog Records	Seeland	MP3		2:06:53 (Pop-up)
Dick Orkin & Bert Berdis	Puffy Sleeves & Stupid	Puffy Sleeves		MP3	http://taylorjessen.blogspot.com/	2:32:43 (Pop-up)

Negativland	Part One: Snuggles "Part One: Snuggles" by "Negativland"	Dead Dog Records	Seeland	MP3		2:40:11 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Part Three: Please Don't Sue Us	Dead Dog Records	Seeland	MP3		2:42:45 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Part Four: Gimme The Mermaid	Dead Dog Records	Seeland	MP3		2:45:22 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Part Nine: Only A Sample	Dead Dog Records	Seeland	MP3		2:51:19 (Pop-up)
Nardwar	Craig Baldwin & Mark Hosler interview pt. 1			MP3		2:58:56 (Pop-up)
The Edge, Don Joyce & Mark Hosler	Mondo 2000 interview excerpt			MP3	Taken from Sonic Outlaws	3:09:39 (Pop-up)

Nardwar	Craig Baldwin & Mark Hosler interview pt. 2			MP3		3:19:32 (Pop-up)
The Weatherman	scanning cellphones			MP3	from Sonic Outlaws	3:22:48 (Pop-up)
Nardwar	Craig Baldwin & Mark Hosler interview pt. 3			MP3		3:28:12 (Pop-up)
The Bran Flakes	He Was A Little Fish Called Snuggles			MP3		3:31:28 (Pop-up)
Mark Hosler	Fuck You "Fuck You" by "Mark Hosler"			MP3		3:33:40 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Encore: Long Distance Dedication (Audience Participation Version)	NegativConcertLand				3:37:44 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Mark Hosler Speaks "Mark Hosler Speaks" by "Negativland"	NegativConcertLand		MP3		3:42:43 (Pop-up)
Negativland	Four Fingers "Four Fingers" by "Negativland"	NegativConcertLand		MP3		3:45:43 (Pop-up)

The 180G’s	I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For	180 To The Future	Seeland	MP3	album title approx.	3:58:59 (Pop-up)
Instamatic	Still Haven't Found It			MP3		4:05:14 (Pop-up)
Negativland	(the clean version) "(the clean version)" by "Negativland"	These Guys Are From England & Who Gives A Shit	Seeland	MP3		4:11:17 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:02pm DJ Babs: Hello Don-O! Let's get to some crap!
	3:03pm Listener Robert: Craig Baldwin's movie "Sonic Outlaws" covered at least part of this ground. I saw it when it was in a theater.
	5:01pm spodiodi: Don-O! let the crap flow!
	5:02pm Otis Fodder: Diddly shhhhhh Diddly shhhhhhh it
	5:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Dear Kasey. LOOK OUT!!
	5:06pm Dolor-X: SHANNON! I’m gonna cry…, 🐶🏝❤️‍🩹
	5:10pm Milkies: FN hilarious
	5:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good Hello Snugglers!!
	5:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Yea, you ARE doing promos inside the promos!
	5:11pm Mr Fab: Yo Don-O, Here for four hours of goddam death dedications.
	5:12pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Damned selfish pets!!
	5:12pm Otis Fodder: Good Golly!
	5:12pm Dolor-X: Ponderous
	5:19pm Listener Robert: But the thing about the Casey Kasem out takes is that nobody can avoid being sypathetic to the guy, because we've all had those times when we wanted to explode like that. It made him more human.
	5:25pm Don-O Snuggle-O: True, but Casey as a much cleaner and more professional image to up hold.
	5:32pm Listener Robert: Maybe the psychology of some doesn't comport with this, but I think the first thing most people think of when they perceive an image like that is to think of its opposite. And then when they do get an example of the opposite, it's like a relief. And new respect, because when you realize what he has to hold in to project that image, it's more impressive. It's like when you learn an announcer is a stutterer.
	5:35pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Image is everything in the entertainment industry and I suspect Casey falls very much in this clause. Plus he got all into 'positivity' when re responding to the groups and protesting fans.
	5:38pm Don-O Snuggle-O: CORRECTION: Please ignore my verbal bellyaching about my voice as I spent 24 hour marathon over two years ago talking about all things Xanadu with Otis. Well, I can blame THAT on him, too.
	5:45pm MHLee: MADE IT
	5:49pm Don-O Snuggle-O: The next track is the official, illegal, starting gun of the shitstorm.
	5:50pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Enjoyed this trip down Nland memory lane, Don-O!
	5:56pm Mr Fab: Don’t leave yet- There’s THREE more hours of Crap on today’s very special Special, Kenzo!
	5:56pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ALL 4 hours of this chapter. You're all dedicated or crazy....from the guy who put this silly thing together in the first place....
	5:58pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Thanks for making this Don-O, though if this is supposed to be definitive, I am curious as to why you didnt reach out to us for some up to date comments! :)
	6:02pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: About Casey's behavior caught on those tapes we used - years after all this went down I spoke at length with Dr Demento, who worked in the same building as Casey when these tapes were made. He said that Casey acted like that towards his engineers all the time, and had quite a bad rep around the building. And in an earlier years interview in the Boulder Weekly about our U2 record, Casey said that he "wasn't like that anymore," that kind of behavior was behind him. My educated guess is that he had an issue with powders of some sort going up his nose, but eventually got over that habit.
	6:04pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I didn't think you guys were interested in some unoffical like this, so I didn't bug you guys. Plus all the dates and all I had went 'poof' in a house Fire last year....which included my physical copy of TGAFEAWGAS. Sorry for not adding the 'unofficial' part in the discription.
	6:04pm Listener Robert: Whatever it was, it makes his produced product from that time all the more impressive for everyone in its production.
	👻 6:04pm WR: I wish I was listening, hope it gets archived. Well, bio break over. Laters.
	6:05pm Buddy Runyan: The actual CB radio I used to record angry CB radio operators. Still looks new! dumb.negativland.com...
	6:07pm Don-O Snuggle-O: All but the last 20 minutes will be archive on WFMU. The rest. hmmm... I might put it up on Archive dot org...See what happens....
	6:07pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Oh, we admired Casey in many ways. He was a decent celebrity activist, and certainly tried to do some good with his fame.
	6:08pm Listener Robert: Anyway, I do recommend everyone see "Sonic Outlaws". It's about this and approximately 3 other issues having to do with unauthorized reception, copying, sampling, and distribution. And Craig Baldwin ought to know, he's a master at repurposing stuff.
	6:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Agreed. Sonic Outlaws is a worthy musical doc! I saw it in the Nuart Theater near Westwood.
	6:10pm Zipperhead7: Please Please Please archive this show! I said Please! Please! Please! (drops to floor as dog rushes out and covers him with cape)
	6:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ....which will be heard (in part) later in this show....
	6:11pm Zipperhead7: OK I see prayers were answered. Keep shoveling that crap, boys!
	6:12pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Too much Snuggles for you, Z!
	6:12pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Don-O, you've certainly done some impressive crate digging to come up with those old OTE bits and old interviews with us. Hats off to you! There has been some kinda fascinating stuff about the whole insane saga (well, to us, at least) that came to light years after our book came out, but too much to go into here.
	6:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I do not doubt it, Mr, Negativland.
	6:14pm Rich in Washington: can't get the picture of Casey as Shaggy with powders of some sort going up his nose out of my head
	6:15pm Don-O Snuggle-O: In fact, the Mark Hosler lecture I use here (from YouTube) offered no information on where and when.
	6:15pm Rich in Washington: Hi Don-O! Hi Buddy! Hi TGIFNAWGAS! Hi everybody!
	6:16pm Don-O Snuggle-O: It's all about that image, Rich!
	6:16pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Zoinks, Scoob! Hell, Shaggy acted like he was coked up all the time!
	6:17pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Heeeeeeeey, Rich!...and everyone else!
	6:18pm Don-O Snuggle-O: BTW, I'm currently watching plans landing at LAX live on YT.....
	6:19pm Rich in Washington: Oh, BTW, thanks for turning me onto that livestream, Don-O! I recently hijacked the video displays at my work and put them on all of them.
	6:20pm Otis Fodder: Moved over from listening while doing laundry to flashing back while cooking. Top show Don-O!
	6:21pm Rich in Washington: another good one is Shibuya Crossing in Tokyo, the busiest pedestrian crossing in Japan.
	6:21pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Now YOU'RE giving me streaming ideas, Rich!!
	6:22pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: We were recently interviewed at length about the U2 EP for an Audible podcast called SHELVED, which they say will be out in a few months. There are also some funny stories about the actual recording of The Weatherman's vocals (on here as Buddy Runyan) which have never been told, but not for that podcast. And Buddy- very nice to see that CB radio! Which of course looks brand new.
	6:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Otis, YOU reminded me to do some laundry!
	6:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: "younsters:, :clean-cut"............reeeeeeeeeeeeally!?!?
	6:22pm Rich in Washington: I love that Don's voice lives forever in the Archive dot org archives. Everyone knows about the 24/7 random OTE stream, right? A labor of love of OTE fan Rebecca Loomis.
	6:27pm This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit: Rich- Not aware of that random OTE stream from Rebecca Loomis! Sounds like we ought to have a link to it on our web page.
	6:31pm Rich in Washington: It's here: bananavision.tv... You have to scroll down to the bottom for the links to it.
	6:33pm Rich in Washington: It's wonderful. The audio plays server side, so you can listen on multiple devices around the house and they're all playing the same episode, rather than refresh and you get a different episode. Make sense. Probably not. I'm such a geek.
	6:33pm Buddy Runyan: Oh well, Certain Men.
	6:34pm Rich in Washington: Indeed, Buddy.
	6:36pm spodiodi: let them
	6:36pm Don-O Snuggle-O: We are all geeks for noise here!
	6:36pm Listener Robert: I love that Pepsi song, with all its word play. When Constant Comment won't shut up....
	6:37pm Rich in Washington: Hey, spodiodi!
	6:37pm spodiodi: aloha, Rich in Washington!
	6:39pm Rich in Washington: I often sleep to the OTE stream and have some of the most bizarre dreams. I'm usually awakened by some receptacle caller blurting something and then loudly hanging up their phone.
	6:40pm Listener Robert: Rich, not only do I ot know about that stream, I don't even know what "OTE" stands for. I hope the answer is not the same as given by DUH.
	6:41pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I wonder if he found out which engineer who did it.
	6:41pm Rich in Washington: Oh. Sorry, Listener Robert! Over The Edge, the radio show that Negativland member Don Joyce did for decades on KPFA up until his death in 2015.
	6:42pm Rich in Washington: It's still being done by Negativland member Wobbly as well as a guy named KRob. They sort of trade off weeks.
	6:43pm Listener Robert: You mean it now plays on a continuous loop? I'm afraid to try,I might never get out of it.
	6:44pm Rich in Washington: No. New shows are still on KPFA in Thursday nights/Friday Mornings but someone created a livestream which plays archives of the radio program going back to the 80s.
	6:45pm Listener Robert: I shouldn't be surprised, though. The Hound has a continuous loop of his shows that he's still adding to; same with Tim Weisburg.
	6:46pm Rich in Washington: Oh! I did not know that! I want to make one of those when I die so people can be confused by my radio shows long after I'm gone.
	6:47pm Rich in Washington: I recently found the actual aircheck (sans meltdown) of Casey introducing the 'goddamn death dedication' and it was for the Henry Gross song Shannon.
	6:51pm Mr Fab: that's what started the show today, RIch!
	6:51pm Don-O Snuggle-O: HA! I opened this show with that track!
	6:54pm Rich in Washington: CD liner notes sez: Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 1993
	6:55pm Listener Robert: For some people it's all about which foot the shoe is on. I have a friend who plays fast and loose copying graphics into his for-sale (actually for-donations) work, but then wanted to see how he could stop whoever put his published stuff onto ScribD. Yeah, he's shallow like that, though a very smart and creative guy.
	6:57pm Rich in Washington: Hey, something I've always wondered: Did Greg Ginn every make good on his threat to release a Negativland parody, as mentioned in the Letter U (etc) book?
	6:59pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Oh, yea. OJland....or something or other. I actually e-mailed the SST and never got a response.
	7:00pm Otis Fodder: Roscoe/Surface Noise and Stupidland. Been a long time since tape-trading this one around or almost 30 years back. Need to get another copy of this gem, flashing back... back.. back...
	7:00pm Listener Robert: I asked myself how you could either parody or satirize Negativland's oeuvre, but Mad magazine cranked out shit like satires of satire routinely.
	7:02pm Otis Fodder: Art Damage, aka Brian Damage aka Phycus from Montreal (later in the band Unireverse).
	7:04pm Mr Fab: Listener Robert: I was wondering the same thing, how could satirize such arch-satirists as Negativland? But apart from MAD, SCTV did a pretty wicked SNL parody. I can imagine someone doing a Weird Al parody.
	7:07pm Listener Robert: What was SCTV's SNL parody?
	7:17pm Mr Fab: Oh I just remember one of them was doing a Belushi parody, and said that he couldn't do something "...because I'm stoned!" And the mock SNL audience whooped and cheered.
	7:23pm Aitch: Bonus Don-O! Hey all
	7:24pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good Hello, Aitch!
	7:25pm Rich in Washington: Aitch!
	7:28pm Mr Fab: It’s the LAST DAY of the Sheena’s Marathon - if you haven’t pledged yet, NOW’S THE TIME! Don't miss our Premium - the Sheena’s CD/download is packed with tracks not available ANYWHERE else.
	7:28pm Aitch: Hard to sit down already Mr Fab
	7:28pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Pass the wallet, y'all!!
	7:30pm ironybread: "I think no harm was done. What do you think?"
	7:31pm ironybread: Want to hear the sources for ol' Crosley's razor tape? Enjoy: taylorjessen.blogspot.com...
	7:32pm ironybread: Rich: No, Greg Ginn's great campaign to discredit and embarrass Negativland started and ended with his release of the "Live" CD in which he misspelled the name of the band.
	7:33pm ironybread: Bless Dick & Bert
	7:34pm Mr Fab: Thanks for that link, ironybread. I am STILL finding goodies from your blog.
	7:36pm ironybread: It's true, throw $25000 at me and I'm almost guaranteed never to bother you again.
	7:39pm Rich in Washington: While I'm pretty much a Negativland completist, I never did score that SST Negativeland Live CD. I understand the mix of that release was really poor as well.
	7:41pm ironybread: Greg Ginn mastered "Negativeland" from a cassette, basically as a "fuck you" to Negativland. I bought it only because it's historically important (in the same way that gay men bought Anita Bryant's autobiography; it's more for the evidence locker).
	7:48pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Speaking of which!
	7:48pm ironybread: Don't miss the epic music video for "Mermaid" by Tim Maloney (who was a Disney employee at the time he made this, and edited it using Disney hardware) www.youtube.com...
	7:49pm ironybread: (All the cats in the video are Tim's own cats! They're adorable.)
	7:55pm Mr Fab: I feel bad about this whole mess. I don't feel bad for U2, but SST was a huge part of my musical life in the '80s. But I know - apart from this, Ginn is also notorious for not paying his artists royalties. But he really introduced Negativland to a much greater audience (inc me) as well as all those other great SST acts. And at least he didn't go all Phil Spector.
	7:57pm Rich in Washington: there's still time
	7:57pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I suspect this whole episode changed pretty much everybody, especially with all of the lawyers in the middle of it all. Lawyers cab do that.
	7:58pm Mr Fab: Ha, true, Rich.
	7:59pm Buddy Runyan: Found my matchstick!
	7:59pm Rich in Washington: Oh wow, Don-O! had I known you were doing this, I coulda sent you the audio of a live Q&A that Negativland's then lawyer Kohel Haver did after a screening of Sonic Outlaws I did in Portland! It was pretty hilarious. He had some good stories.
	8:00pm spodiodi: Nardwuar <3
	8:00pm Buddy Runyan: I’m “some other guy.”
	8:01pm Rich in Washington: Hi again, Buddy!
	8:01pm ironybread: Legativ Land. (Spoiler: Nardwuar is kind of an idiot.)
	8:01pm ironybread: Hi Buddy!!!
	8:01pm Rich in Washington: Legitivman
	8:01pm Don-O Snuggle-O: A very noisy idiot!
	8:01pm Buddy Runyan: Hi, Rich and ironybread!
	8:02pm Don-O Snuggle-O: UT! You're awake, Buddy!
	8:03pm Rich in Washington: Nardwuar's nuts! Love his interviews but somehow wonder how he's still alive (and not even talking about his health issues).
	8:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I suspect Nardwar has too much energy to read.
	8:03pm spodiodi: i should have listened first </3 (but i still do)
	8:04pm Buddy Runyan: Mark just told me just a moment ago, “Read the book!”
	8:04pm Rich in Washington: The episodes where he makes these badass Hip Hop dudes practically tear up with the sentimental things he dredges up from their pasts.
	8:04pm ironybread: Yes, folks, if you don't own "Fair Use" please head directly to Negativland's site and buy one of those babies. It's not just educational, it's HILARIOUS
	8:06pm Rich in Washington: Indeed! I'm looking through mine right now.
	8:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: There is some screaming involved. It must be a Nardward interview....or fight.
	8:07pm ironybread: (Spoiler: Grg Gnn is NOT a good person)
	8:08pm spodiodi: olo
	8:08pm Rich in Washington: Oh that's hilarious! When I went to buy a license to exhibit a print of Sonic Outlaws as a fundraiser for KBOO, Baldwin came back with 'KBOO? I LOVE you guys!' and granted the license for a mere $66.6.
	8:08pm Don-O Snuggle-O: ....and living in Texas......
	8:09pm Rich in Washington: Yeah, the list of bands who used to be on SST who've had to sue them over royalties or breach of contract is insane.
	8:10pm Listener Robert: I just about wore out Tribulation 99 rewatching!
	8:10pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I get the feeling this wasn't planned and N. cornered them in the alley way......
	8:12pm Buddy Runyan: Got another brain so I can be a half-wit!
	8:13pm Listener Robert: As to how Nardhuar can still be alive after all these encounters, why do you think he's called The Human Serviette?
	8:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I almost wore out my VHS copies of Tribulation 99 and Sonic Outlaws. Thank goodness for DVDs.
	8:15pm Rich in Washington: When my wife used to be a librarian, she brought Tribulation 99 home on VHS after a patron returned it and complained about it.
	8:16pm ironybread: You know what they say: When the patrons complain, don't pour that VHS down the drain! Take it out of circulation, Keep that copy of Tribulation
	8:17pm Don-O Snuggle-O: One More Hour To Go! I Wanna Be Sedated!!!
	8:19pm Rich in Washington: There is a legend (which is probably best left a legend) that The Edge secretly paid for the production of Negativland's next album Free.
	8:19pm Rich in Washington: Have some lemon and honey, Don-O!
	8:20pm ironybread: Shit, I'd better ask Mark about that the next time I talk to him, Rich
	8:22pm Don-O Snuggle-O: O. P. P. Other Peoples P*ssy. Other Peoples Properly.
	8:22pm spodiodi: this is hilarious
	8:24pm Rich in Washington: I'm afraid to ask things like that out of fear I'll sound like Brian Johns of Money Talks (second SCTV reference of the day).
	8:24pm Rich in Washington: Love this bit. Buddy, you lawbreaker, you!
	👻 8:26pm Cp304: The weather man
	8:26pm Buddy Runyan: I wonder where those two guys are now?
	8:27pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Het, Cp304! Welcome to this stupid silly party!!
	8:28pm Don-O Snuggle-O: They are probably Republicans these days.
	👻 8:28pm Cp304: Thanks don-o!! I almost forgot with this stupid March madness stuff
	8:28pm Mr Fab: for those of you who haven't seen the film "Sonic Outlaws," right now The Weatherman is adjusting antennas and whatnot as we listen to this conversation coming thru the radio.
	8:29pm Listener Robert: I used to do a lot of unauthorized receiving of FM subcarrier programs using Bruce Elving's Super Snooper, which he built and sold more or less to protest the law against unauthorized reception of programs sent via broadcast FM subcarriers. Nobody to y knowledge was ever prosecuted for doing so, because it really was a victimless crime, except in the few cases of people stealing Muzak. The vast majority of content on subcarriers was not pay radio.
	8:30pm Buddy Runyan: Being republican makes sex, sexier!
	8:31pm Don-O Snuggle-O: "eh!"
	8:32pm Otis Fodder: Ah, Nardwuar... his stint on WFMU was fun a decade back with a lot of interviews, wfmu.org...
	👻 8:32pm Cp304: F snuggles
	8:33pm Otis Fodder: Sent this to Don on cassette in 1996 for OTE.
	👻 8:33pm Cp304: @ Fab, I have not seen sonic outlaws, I’ll check for it
	8:33pm Otis Fodder: Samples from an episode of Blossom.
	8:34pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Check the Slacker box, Otis
	8:35pm Listener Robert: But then, because it's how lawyers make their money, holders of intellectual property often seem to act (law-wise) against their own best interests. Like the Chicago hotel that was enjoined (or threatened into acting as if they were enjoined) against advertising their Monopoly tournament as such. Instead they advertised it as a Monotony tournament.
	8:35pm Otis Fodder: Had Sonic Outlaws on VHS in the mid-90s in a house with rotating roommates. Should watch again, loved it, was on the tube a bit back then.
	8:36pm Mr Fab: I remember a Nardwuar inerview where he kept calling him "Lemmy from Motorhead" and Lemmy kept saying, you can just call me Lemmy, you don't have to keep saying "Lemmy from Motorhead" and Nardwuar would go, "Ok, Lemmy from Motorhead, let me ask you -" "You don't have to call me Lemmy from Motorhead!" "Ok, sorry, Lemmy from Motorhead..."
	8:40pm Listener Robert: IP lawyers act as if anything that MIGHT be considered dilution of one's trademark, copyright, or patent, no matter how harmless, needs to be protected against because of the possibility of loss of rights via failure to defend them. But I don't see how Monopoly could've won against a hotel which, after all, depended on players BUYING the game to play it in the tournament, where the game's reputation would in no way be hurt by advertising it on the marquee.
	8:41pm Buddy Runyan: Here’s the radio I used to receive analog cellular phone calls. dumb.negativland.com...
	8:42pm Don-O Snuggle-O: I know this and he rest of these NCLL tracks were recorded at the Belly Up Bar in San Diego.
	8:47pm ironybread: "Fuckin' ponderous!" "Music radio 1-3-8 oh fuck!" "Castles don't have phones!" "Hey Riff, show us your mummy!" #NegativlandU2 #RockyHorror #SameThing
	8:49pm ironybread: (For listeners at home, Mark, who is wearing gloves, is cutting off the fingers of one hand one by one. Blood is spraying everywhere.)
	8:50pm Listener Robert: Anybody here remember how much the marathon brought in on its last day last year? I'm trying to handicap whether the goal is still reachable by the formal close of the marathon this year.
	8:52pm spodiodi: the images came before i asked. i never had to say a word! too cool, Buddy Runyan! thank you!
	8:52pm Zipperhead7: Jumping in 13 minutes from the end, but better late than never. Interesting points about copyright. I tried to license some clips from BBC and CBS for a documentary, and they work through a clearinghouse that wanted $120 a second! All of it was work-for-hire, so of course the people who actually created it wouldn't see a dime.
	8:54pm ironybread: A stock video house in Chicago wanted over $120K for 45 minutes of Firesign Theatre footage ten years ago. How did we solve this problem? We waited for them to go out of business & sell their archive to the Library of Congress, and bought the footage from the LOC in high def for $450.
	8:56pm spodiodi: thanks for the Negativland special, Don-O! thanks and love for the Negatilvand, Negativland!
	8:56pm Don-O Snuggle-O: My last break! We're getting some-what near the end. 20 minutes ta goo!!
	8:57pm Buddy Runyan: spodiodi, thank you!
	8:57pm ironybread: PLEASE GIVE
	8:57pm spodiodi: ah good, Don-O! the huge clock suckered me
	8:58pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Now let's see of the FMU archive is going to save the rest of this show. See what happens!
	8:59pm Otis Fodder: Very stu... very stu... very stupendous and anything but dumb!
	9:00pm asheville jon: Fantastic show!
	👻 9:00pm Cp304: Cheers
	9:02pm ironybread: Right before Don Joyce started doing "How Radio Wasn't Done", Mark Hosler told me in an interview that by fighting back against the "U2" lawsuits, Negativland intended to send a message to the record industry, and this was it: "If you fuck with us, we’re just going to humiliate you and turn you into an art project and make you look STUPID, and you’re not going to get any money out of us anyway, so please—just leave us alone. And it worked."
	9:03pm Don-O Snuggle-O: My thanks to all for stick it all out for this 4 hour fanboy fest. Another round o' thanks to Buddy and Mr, Negativland for popping up. I hope you guys don't have to do this again. After THIS, I'm either going to eat or nap...or both. This is Arizona after all.
	9:04pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Good damned for you, Mr. Negativland!!
	9:04pm Zipperhead7: I'll take the 180G's over Bobby McFerrin any day
	9:05pm spodiodi: had been excitedly waiting for this show cheers, The Weatherman, This Guy Is From Negativland And Who Gives A Shit!
	9:05pm Buddy Runyan: Thank you, Don-O Snuggle-O!
	9:05pm Don-O Snuggle-O: WE give a shit!!!
	9:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: The final track!!
	9:06pm Mr Fab: ironybread: that's hilarious. I did notice that Pepsi was noticeably mum after "Dispepsi" came out.
	9:06pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Hey, Buddy. Yu know anything about this track?
	9:07pm Buddy Runyan: Uh-oh, looking for my goddamn matchstick again!
	9:08pm Mr Fab: In mere moments the Sheena's Marathon will be over. THANKS to you all, the crap will flow for another year.
	9:08pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Burnin' It Down like Byrne!!
	9:09pm ironybread: I have no idea who the string quartet is here, but I'm going to say Kronos Quartet, because that's exactly the kind of unsubstantiated rumor I should be propagating. #YouKnowIBelieveIt #NoIGuessIDontBelieveIt
	9:09pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Additional thanks to Mr. Fab and FMU for putting up with this mess! Sorry about this!
	9:10pm ironybread: #IShouldBeShotPointBlankInTheStamperTonight
	👻 9:10pm Cp304: ❤️
	9:11pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Ooops! THIS is the final track! Sorry about that
	9:11pm Buddy Runyan: Lick your stamper!
	9:12pm Mr Fab: ironybread: there was that goofy Vitamin String Quartet that cranked out album after album of "String Quartet Tribute To..." Maybe them?
	9:13pm Don-O Snuggle-O: Hell, I don't even remember where I git that track!!
	9:14pm Mr Fab: Tom Schnable on KCRW was fooled by the CD which called the uncensored version the "Radio Mix." Oops. After a minute or so, he faded it down, har har.
	👻 9:15pm Cp304: Sis said “that is is driven me nuts”. I says, you gotta here kasey say f snuggles.. then you’ll understand
	9:16pm ironybread: Fab: Well I don't see a String Quartet Tribute to Negativland on Discogs, but it's a possibility.

The Hour of Crap with Don-O: Playlist from March 19, 2022

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