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Favoriting April 18, 2022: Why you should be worried about data brokers

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Today: Why you should be worried about data brokers

First, on Twitter and Elon Musk:

• Takeover bid of Twitter met with "poison pill" defense.

Elon Musk Is Fighting for Attention, Not Free Speech (Renee DiResta in the Atlantic, April 14, 2022): "Twitter serves less as a town square than as a gladiatorial arena. It’s where competitors kill off one another while the crowd cheers, where teams compete in winner-take-all contests, where unending ideological demolition derbies go in circles." (Responding to Elon Musk's comment that Twitter is “the de facto public town square.”)

• I'm stepping away for awhile.

On data brokers

• Credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion

Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO, April 10, 2022)

Spokeo.com, PeopleSmart.com, FamilyTreeNow.com, MyLife.com, Whitepages.com, Intelius.com - see more resources on Mark's Good Reports site

It's not just data brokers

• Intuit (Turbo Tax) and H&R Block: You agreed to what? Tax sites want your data for more than filing. (by Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post, April 12, 2022): revealing "a little-discussed evolution of the tax-prep software industry from mere processors of returns to profiteers of personal data. It’s the Facebook-ization of personal finance."

• Trackers: Who Tracks You When You Read the News? (Bill Fitzgerald, March 8, 2022): "Most people have never heard of the sites that track us when we read the news — and even if we have heard of them, we might not know that they are in the tracking business."

"As one example, Beeswax is used on 24 of the 30 sites in this scan. ... Despite people having no knowledge of Beeswax, the company claims the right to collect a lot of information about us."

"...To summarize: Beeswax can collect your precise location — so, if you’re reading The Washington Post or The Wall Street Journal while sitting at your kitchen table, Beeswax’s privacy policy appears to specify that they can collect and store that information. With that location in hand, Beeswax’s privacy policy states that they can get more data from unnamed third party companies about you. And, if you have more than one device (say, a phone, a connected speaker, and a computer), Beeswax’s privacy policy says it can actively tie all of these devices to you."

• Patient-community and health sites: Health Sites Let Ads Track Visitors Without Telling Them (Wired, Feb 6, 2022): "researchers found that several genetic-testing and digital-medicine companies had shared customer information with Facebook for ad targeting. ... when it comes to vulnerable communities like patients and community organizers, there's a pressing need for clear policies and controls."

• Amazon employees: Amazon's Dark Secret: It Has Failed to Protect Your Data (Wired, Nov 18, 2021): "According to internal documents reviewed by Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting and WIRED, Amazon's vast empire of customer data—its metastasizing record of what you search for, what you buy, what shows you watch, what pills you take, what you say to Alexa, and who's at your front door—had become so sprawling, fragmented, and promiscuously shared within the company that the security division couldn't even map all of it, much less adequately defend its borders. ... Across Amazon, some low-level employees were using their data privileges to snoop on the purchases of celebrities, while others were taking bribes to help shady sellers sabotage competitors' businesses, doctor Amazon's review system, and sell knock-off products to unsuspecting customers."

• Governments: How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens (by Ronan Farrow in the New Yorker, April 25 & May 2, 2022), on "Pegasus, a spyware technology designed by NSO Group, an Israeli firm, which can extract the contents of a phone, giving access to its texts and photographs, or activate its camera and microphone to provide real-time surveillance—exposing, say, confidential meetings. ... there is evidence that Pegasus is being used in at least forty-five countries, and it and similar tools have been purchased by law-enforcement agencies in the United States and across Europe."

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Handy Haversack:

I might have to be on a call early in the show, so I'll leave these here for now, though Mark might have already seen them:

Facebook and disinformation in Africa: www.theguardian.com...

Instagram and sexualized images of children: www.theguardian.com...

Sigh.

But patting myself on the Techtonic back: I *finally* Got. Off. Google!
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Handy Haversack:

And the call happened early! Here with you, Mark and all the Techyon Drives! Hope broadcasting from the Athletic Closet is treating you OK, Mark!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonatapanickers In Year Zero!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Handy, ultradamno, all!
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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ultradamno:

Hiya Bas!
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StringOFperils:

Data broker?! Damn near replaced her.
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tim from washington:

Hi Mark! Hi everybody!
  6:04pm
THX1138:

I'm listening in the future.
  6:04pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, ultradamno, Bas, SOfp, tim, everyone!
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Webhamster Henry:

Well this is going to be fun!
  6:05pm
Glistener MW:

evening, Mark, Handy & all! I haven’t been able to listen to TT live since the marathon
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ultradamno:

Hey Handy! DiL!
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tim from washington:

I really can't handle late night talk show types but John Oliver seems alright.
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Claire from Montclair:

I wondered if John Oliver inspired you.
  6:06pm
Glistener MW:

I love the episodes where Lorebroker tries to convince the crew that he’s actually Lt Databroker
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Handy Haversack:

John Oliver was on Community, which was a real peak for any career. Haven't seen him do anything as brilliant since!

Hey, Webhamster H, G MW!

David, how turns, me sprocket?
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🇺🇦 Ike 🇺🇦:

HBO puts portions of Last Week Tonight for free up on You... uh... um, never mind LOL
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StringOFperils:

Hi Handy and all. Nice data! **winks **wolf-whistles
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Webhamster Henry:

Oliver's research is good, he gets pretty silly , sometimes so over the top he comes up on the other side.
  6:06pm
yippie:

my friend josh was a writer on john oliver on hbo
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chris in the redwoods:

hello, Mark and techtonistas. oh boy, seems like i should consume some relaxant for this show...
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Will the Sound Guy:

Hi Mark and all!!!
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Webhamster Henry:

Hey Chatboarders! Let's pool our dough and buy Twitter ourselves!
  6:07pm
David in London:

Handles, I’m on holiday me old china, so all is well.
Ultradamno, ahoy!
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Handy Haversack:

Excellent, David. Very jealous!
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tim from washington:

Unpredictable and creating spectacles? Hmmm. sounds like a well worn method for many unsavory characters in this day and age.
  6:08pm
Glistener MW:

melt MySpace! fricassée Friendster!
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Handy Haversack:

(David: Runza --> pocket --> sprocket. How was that?)
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joe mulligan:

someone suggested Musk would buy twitter to allow trump to get back on it, but personally I think a play with Desantis would be a smarter move for Musk. side note I do not like any of the three don't @me
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Bas NL:

Couldn't we pool and buy the WFMU comments board? To secure our illustrious comments?
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Claire from Montclair:

I deactivated FB, IG, and Twitter in the beginning of the year and I never looked back. Thanks for the inspiration!
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Fredericks:

Destroy truth and rule by spectacle.
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chris in the redwoods:

i learned the other day i'm a few degrees of separation away from one of twitter's in house counselors (lawyers) yeesh, i feel icky about that.
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techlanders!
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StringOFperils:

Musk controlling-share. Another layer of obfuscation. They should then call it DITHER.
  6:11pm
David in London:

Chrestikins! Chris, Tim!
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Will the Sound Guy:

Hi Handy, ultradamno, Bas, James, StringOFperils, tim, THX1138, David, Webhamster Harry, Glistener MW, Claire, Ike, yippie chris, joe, Fredericks, chresti, and anyone I missed!!!
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Handy Haversack:

It has to be more affordable, Bas. You can buy all of my comments for two slices of pizza and a cheap American lager!

Good on you, Claire!
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ultradamno:

The free speech absolutist whose wife launches DDOS attack on websites she doesn't like...
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joe mulligan:

I loved twitter years ago when it still was a healthy water-cooler party.. 2007-2010. then like any nice kegger the dooshes and cops show up
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chris in the redwoods:

Hey, David!
Hey, Will!
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ultradamno:

HI Will!
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, Will!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and tweety-birds!
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tim from washington:

DiL! DiL! DiL!
  6:13pm
Sam:

Elon’s a good guy. I’m glad he’ll be in charge, not like it actually matters to me one iota. Twitter will probably be a horrific shitshow no matter who runs it, so why not a cool guy like Elon. Healthy adults should have better things to do anyway. Kill your computer and your phone.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Webhamster Henry:

Why to be on Twitter: @ThreatNotation
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dave miss:

Ibid to Wiil the Sound guy’s comment
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ultradamno:

It has been a year the twitter brought in an algorithm that demanded people rethink their potentially inflammatory posts (usually inappropriately, just off keywords) while tailoring their trending topics to things intended to draw you into a flame war...
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Bas NL:

Mmm... you got a line there Handy! Pizza & beers for content.
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joe mulligan:

I dunno Sam, I don't like the whole nuke Mars flippant suggestion, he's super smart but I think too volatile
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Claire from Montclair:

The end of this John Oliver episode was epic!
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DjLorraine:

I'm not attracted to Elon Musk due to his shallowness
Love this topic
  6:16pm
Sam:

Let’s see if Oliver can get through a full 30 seconds without a dick joke
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ultradamno:

@joe Made me think of the Mr Show "nuke the moon" sketch"
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Handy Haversack:

dave miss! It's been too long!

I have no social media to quit, and I already barely have time to read, cut my hair, walk for pleasure, plan a trip, renew my passport, train the kittens, clean (er) anything, or really get into railing publicly against social media. Where's the efficiency solution for the angry Luddite?!
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joe mulligan:

hahaha @ultradamno!
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Little Danny:

hello mark hello cookies
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Handy Haversack:

Tony Soprano at the laptop: "I don't wanna mess around with any of them cookie things!"
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joe mulligan:

As someone who has worked deep in the lead-gen ad tech world, I can vouch that it is one of the shadier sides of the paid advertising ecosystem.
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StringOFperils:

The wind seems to howl a bit when I think about a world that gave up reading in order to spend lifetimes on Twitter
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alanSixº:

hi everybody
  6:19pm
Sam:

Tony Soprano made a point of ripping the GPS out of his Jeep.
  6:19pm
P-90:

“Cookies were not evil. Originally…”
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ultradamno:

Volatile? Didn't he bang his head into a Tesla to demonstrate it's safety when questions were raised and then fired the guy who did? Seems like a stable genius...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I like all the messages about cookies when I'm trying to bake actual cookies - www.goldmedalflour.com... 🍪
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Will the Sound Guy:

tasty cookies!!! mmmmmmm
🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠
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Claire from Montclair:

👋Alan!
  6:21pm
Sam:

Real cookies > internet cookies
  6:21pm
Sam:

I want apple cookies!
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alanSixº:

hi claire!
  6:23pm
Sam:

We’re cookies named after James Cook?
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mespr:

Tracking with cookies predates both Facebook and Google. We called them pixels, they were invisible images. see en.wikipedia.org... Today "pixel" means a slug of javascript that pulls in more scripts and every media page has dozens of these installed from companies from Outbrain to Twitter.
  6:23pm
Sam:

I mean Tim Cook?
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Bas NL:

The WFMU homepage has Google & Twitter trackers embedded...
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StringOFperils:

Cookies were named after your goose is cooked.
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chris in the redwoods:

is this prerecorded? could the recording have been sped up? its getting choppy
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Rich in Washington:

big tech is making bitrate glitches
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joe mulligan:

don't forget brokers like Axciom.. here's a full chart & list:
privacybee.com...
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Claire from Montclair:

I called apple tech support yesterday and they told me to search google to check my internet connection and I’m sure I made an audible noise of disgust lol
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Webhamster Henry:

BIG GLITCH IS AFTER MARK!
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ultradamno:

Mr. Fine Wine was having this very issue on Friday
  6:26pm
Tom from Stirling:

John Oliver show is good. But, man, he talks really fast.
  6:26pm
Sam:

Techtonic meets vocal fry
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ultradamno:

Whatever you say about him, he does jam pack his show.
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mndave:

Yeah, it sounds like 1.25x...
  6:28pm
Sam:

I thought we were past Covid. Are you sure this isn’t pre-recorded?
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chris in the redwoods:

ugh, so frustrating. sorry, Mark!
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Fredericks:

What is that music?
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Paul D:

Why is the station on lock down?
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tim from washington:

Musk is using his firing his Glitch Jammer radar at WFMU!
  6:28pm
P-90:

John Oliver’s show is brilliant, he swings for the fences every time he steps up to the plate. Every episode is either very very good, or totally excellent. Well worth checking out on Sunday nights. Highest recommendation.
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Webhamster Henry:

This show is going to be a great segue into the ARBitrartium!
  6:28pm
Ciggy:

Keep Going
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joe mulligan:

Sam it's the second lockdown.. couple djs got covid.. plus he's commenting it's live
  6:29pm
carrots:

which video game is that? pac man?
  6:29pm
Sam:

Zuck and Cook are messing with the feed cuz they don’t like what you’re saying!!
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Rich in Washington:

I think the music's Terry Riley's Rainbow In Curved Air, but I was never good at Name That Tune.
  6:29pm
Sam:

You’ll never shut Mark up you tech basyards!!
  6:29pm
P-90:

Does anyone really believe we’re “past Covid”?
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arb:

are you calling me a good glitch or a bad glitch WH?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Bas NL:

I suspect Mark's connection suffers from 'moderation'.
  6:30pm
castor:

I wonder if the incoming storm has something to do with it?
  6:30pm
yippie:

sometimes the audio speeds up a little to catch up for the seconds lost due to lag
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Handy Haversack:

arb is the god glitch.
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StringOFperils:

The Wicked Glitch of the West
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spacecadet:

wait, how can we make a take down request to these sites?
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Claire from Montclair:

Even terrestrial radio is glitching yo
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Fredericks:

There it is again!
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Little Danny:

as someone at 0.75 this is perfect
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Will the Sound Guy:

Mark, can you type these sites in the chat
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McGroovey:

The audio sounds choppy, like the sound when you set your audiobook app to play at a too-fast.

And of course, it's cutting out entirely, every few minutes.
  6:31pm
P-90:

Is Mark still using that older model Dell desktop?
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ultradamno:

But whatever we do have to say about Twitter, it does have a Gay Ron Desantis account now. Which could be right up there with Devin Nunez's Cow
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Rich in Washington:

Wasn't a solar flare supposed to slam into us recently?
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spacecadet:

I know this is the opt out for 3P cookies via Oracle: datacloudoptout.oracle.com
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alanSixº:

at least the glitch isnt making his words and ideas unclear - working through it
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Webhamster Henry:

I cannot be baited into glitch shaming, not with my past. www.echonyc.com...
  6:32pm
Sam:

Trippy, man!
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StringOFperils:

There's a snowstorm outside right now. At least as weird as a solar flare.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
ultradamno:

It's been snowing here too, a day late for The Fall "snow on easter sunday/jesus christ in reverse" references.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Will the Sound Guy:

Rich, we've been having many CME and solar flare activity as of late
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ultradamno:

This morning twitter.com...
  6:34pm
Ciggy:

Oliver is threatening to expose the congressional's personal info
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mndave:

I also encourage anyone/everyone to call those 800 numbers from banks/creditors/etc. that sometimes appear at the bottom of the "How We Use Your Data" mailers that you get. It's not always there, but usually it's just a 1 minute phone call that can allow you to release your data from being parroted to third parties.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Warm greetings from Downtown Brooklyn!!
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tim from washington:

I just went to spokeo. I must be doing good because my address listed is 3 years old, phone numbers older than 15 years old.
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Fredericks:

Is it Terry Riley?
  6:35pm
P-90:

Yes! This requires well-considered legislation. We’re a nation of laws, but these tech revolutions happen much faster than the (already sluggish) legislative process can respond.
  6:35pm
Ciggy:

No, Today is tax filing deadline
  6:35pm
castor:

I think the drugs are starting to kick in
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Claire from Montclair:

Turn it off and turn it on again!
  6:36pm
JJ NY-SC:

No. Today is tax filing day. Friday was Good Friday, a holiday as far as they're concerned.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
spacecadet:

Here's the spokeo opt out link: www.spokeo.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Will the Sound Guy:

I think the brokers are going for broke trying to silence Mark...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
JM:

I give up
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StringOFperils:

Both of those tax methods are used in ALL of North America, not just the USA (FYI)
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Fredericks:

Rich: I just got to your comment. Close enough for me.
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BadBob:

Sure hope the archived version is fixed id like to listen to this
  6:38pm
castor:

i support making "facebook" etc an insult
  6:39pm
P-90:

Maybe finally time to upgrade from your trusty Amiga, Mark…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Little Danny:

mark is locked in an unwitting battle with terry riley
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Jeff Moore:

Hmm. One wonders if perhaps you're streaming audio sampled at a different rate than the 44.1k the DAWs are locked at (sample rate, not codec encode bitrate), and some software is doing some sort of incompetent handling of the mismatch instead of the hoped for relatively benign sample rate conversion.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
ultradamno:

A minimalist data attack
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
tim from washington:

@castor - your post was so facebooked!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
chris in the redwoods:

Jeff Moore, weird thing is, it was clear at the outset, then something bad happened...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
PaulRobeson1920:

91.1fm comming in choppy
  6:41pm
P-90:

Yep, it sounds like a sample rate issue of some kind
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Will the Sound Guy:

44.1k and 48k are the most common.. also 24 bit vs 16 bit... can be packets being dropped too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
JM:

Sounds like a cyber attack
  6:42pm
castor:

@tim I'll facebook your ass!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
ultradamno:

Facebook your ass sounds like an appointment for a cam session
  6:45pm
bleubombersune:

interesting investigation by Citizens Lab (John Scott-Railton et al)- called Catalan Gate - democracies using spyware (Pegasus/Candiru) tracking/hacking their own citizens/politicians for nefarious reasons.
  6:45pm
P-90:

“metastasizing data collection” (*shudder*)
  6:45pm
ee:

def a cyber attack
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Little Danny:

dick hyman!
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Rolando:

I have some odd clicky sounds listening to Tectonic today .. not sure why, on another note, I have been using bits of the independent fediverse which seem to be working reasonably well for my social wants.
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ultradamno:

Is Musk holding people in light sabre jail now? pbs.twimg.com...
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Jeff Moore:

Maybe the audio is being burned onto a CD-R which will then be sent in a time machine back about 15 years so some bit rot could age into it just in time to have started playing it at the beginning of this show!
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BadBob:

Clicky sound and then mark drops off and it goes to some song and then mark fades in... Pretty weird
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Maybe it needs at Cat 6 ethernet cable?
  6:47pm
bleubombersune:

Ronan Farrow, just read a brief update of mercenary spyware, using Black Cube
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arb:

should be 44.1
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Ciggy:

Mark - you have 12 minutes left
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mndave:

It already sounds better!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
DjLorraine:

Oh no...congress the opposite of progress...con..pro
  6:48pm
P-90:

Ronan Farrow rocks! Glad to see him joining the digital surveillance crusade.
  6:48pm
Brian:

Is there like synth music coming through ever few seconds for you people too?
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solo mon:

Sounds much better!
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ultradamno:

Well, it does sound like it just cleared up though...
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BadBob:

Yes
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alanSixº:

seems like checking the bitrate helped - thanks ARB and everyone
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P-90:

@Mark: whatever you just fiddled with seems to have fixed the glitch
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StringOFperils:

Espionage derivatives will save us all. Surveillance futures.
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solo mon:

The music is the board operator covering for when mark cuts out.
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BadBob:

Oic
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Ken From Hyde Park:

The cat must have messed up the bitrate when it marched across the keyboard an hour ago.
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Brian:

Ah - I see. For a second it felt like the hackers trying to prevent Mark from getting the word out!
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solo mon:

Much respect to board op! This is prob v stressful for them.
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Brian:

And by hackers I mean - Corporate Tech Giants
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Fredericks:

Hope you're recording this, Mark. Perhaps you can post a cleaner version to the archive.
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alanSixº:

thats me and Arb was giving me pointers to give to Mark as I was connecting her for the next show
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StringOFperils:

Why did it have to be Pegasus? Why couldn't it be a unicorn? I wanna unicorn!
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P-90:

If Pegasus creeps you out, wait until you find out about Palantir.
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Rolando:

Sound greats now down here in OZ. It is truely terrifying that there is even a thing like Pegasus - "Pegasus is spyware developed by the Israeli cyber-arms company NSO Group that can be covertly installed on mobile phones running most versions of iOS and Android. Pegasus is able to exploit iOS versions up to 14.6, through a zero-click exploit."
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mndave:

@alanSixº Killing it, much appreciated!
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solo mon:

Good job alanSix! And arb!
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mespr:

The reason Germany is at the forefront of privacy laws, is they learned the hard way that seemingly benign data can fall into the wrong hands. Today it's annoying mail arriving at your door. Tomorrow it could be the police who looked up your religious affiliation.
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alanSixº:

Mark persisted and multitasked - he's a cool cat
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Jeff Moore:

So creepy. Pegasus, and (different problem space) Clearview AI, and... and...

Oh, and (fingers crossed): your stream sounds great now!
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bobobobob:

Edward Snowden said this a long time ago!!!
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StringOFperils:

Right of centre governments will always insist that all of these companies remain privatized. They'll never publicly agree to regulate.
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mndave:

as someone whose crazy ex showed up years ago on Easter Sunday at his parents' house (whose address had never been disclosed) this is vital information
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chris in the redwoods:

how do we get Mark a magic wand? i want him to have one.
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mespr:

There is an effort to make a difference. The functionality of cookies is being siloed. Look up same site cookies. It became the default for most browsers this year. It's a huge problem for many data brokers and advertisers, just not google and facebook, because they own the apps you use.
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BadBob:

Check ebay
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark!
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StringOFperils:

Good point. Groundswell refusal of the whole shebang. Thanks Mark.
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Great topic.
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Little Danny:

thank you as always mark!
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chris in the redwoods:

thanks so very much, Mark. (and much thanks as well, to Alan and arb! :)
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PaulRobeson1920:

Our society spends Trillions every year on maintaining nuclear bombs…a sick society
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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castor:

Thanks Mark!
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joe mulligan:

In case they are not referenced/being already discussed, here are the largest data brokers (aside from Apple/Google/Amazon)
Acxiom LLC
Epsilon Data Management LLC
Oracle America, Inc.
Equifax Information Services LLC
Experian LLC
CoreLogic
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Sam:

The underlying problem is unfettered capitalism. We need to take profit out of the internet and be happy socialists.
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P-90:

Thanks Mark. And John Oliver, who reaches his own big audience.
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DjLorraine:

Thanks Mark!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Somehow, this episode really clicked with me!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Appreciate you sticking through the transmission annoyance. Probably my sub-standard internet service here at home.
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Rolando:

Fantastic Show Mark, - You have done it again, I so wish and sincerely hope that you will get all the recognition you deserve! THANK YOU.
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Will the Sound Guy:

Muse was pretty awesome in concert...

Thank you Mark!!!
Be well everyone!!!
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joe mulligan:

thanks for the show Mark!
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tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark! You're a champ!
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DjLorraine:

I'd like to see Mark Hurst on John Oliver of visa versa
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Handy Haversack:

Thank you, Mark! Great episode. And CONGRATS for getting off Twitter.
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DjLorraine:

Viceversa
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy thanks!
@Djlorraine maybe I could try the 2nd, anyway (getting him on TT) - maybe he's a WFMU fan
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Mark Hurst:

@Rolando thanks!
@KfHP glad to hear it
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