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Favoriting April 30, 2022: DJ Courtney Noir of KZUM.org - the MYSTERY DATE program RETURNS

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments New Approx. start time
Victim  Strange Thing By Night   Favoriting   Good Vibrations Records  1978  7"  Belfast, Northern Ireland    0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Legion  Anticks   Favoriting Only Yesterday 7"  Off Beat Records  1984  7"  West Yorkshire    0:03:51 (Pop-up)
Mekanik DK  Der Liebe Auf Der Spur   Favoriting Der Liebe Auf Der Spur 7"  Self Released  1984  7"  Deutschland    0:06:49 (Pop-up)
Vibø  World Is Ours   Favoriting One Too Many  Black & White  1983    Belgium    0:10:45 (Pop-up)
The Atrix  Treasure On The Wasteland   Favoriting Procession  Scoff  1981    Ireland    0:13:25 (Pop-up)
 
Romantične Boje  Bez Tebe   Favoriting Romantične Boje  Doomed To Extinction Records  2016    From Niš, a town in Southeastern Serbia (former Yugoslavia) - 1983-1986    0:17:38 (Pop-up)
Decades  Ordre   Favoriting Premières Données  On A Faim !  1987    France    0:20:57 (Pop-up)
Tin Twist  Sometimes It's Funny   Favoriting Sometimes It's Funny 7"  Mo Da Mu  1981  7"  Vancouver Canada    0:24:18 (Pop-up)
ADN' Ckrystall  Mini Romance (Inédit)   Favoriting various  Born Bad Records  2015    Excellent collection of comps - Des Jeunes Gens Mödernes - Get this FRENCH cold wave post punk comp here     0:27:54 (Pop-up)
Pingvinovo Potbalublje  Varaždin   Favoriting Pingvinovo Potbalublje [Demo (Practice Space '82)]  Dirty Old Label  2017    Croatian band formed in 1979 Zagreb    0:31:22 (Pop-up)
 
Headache City  Tearjerker   Favoriting Headache City  Shit Sandwich Records  2005    Heeeey! Something American!    0:35:49 (Pop-up)
The Hussy  Undefined   Favoriting Weed Seizure  Tic Tac Totally! Records  2012    Heeeey! Something else that's American! Get this sick HUSSY jam on Bandcamp here    0:38:29 (Pop-up)
Avale  La Part Du Diable   Favoriting Avale  Neutral  2022    Heeeey! Something new! From France! Amaze FRENCH woman centered band on Bandcamp here  *   0:41:06 (Pop-up)
A Primary Industry  Where Is Your Vortex   Favoriting Heart Of Glass / Where Is Your Vortex 7"  Sweatbox  1987  7"  UK    0:44:35 (Pop-up)
Glass Lady  Glass Lady   Favoriting Glass Lady  Self Released  1985    UK    0:47:45 (Pop-up)
Fancy  Slice Me Nice   Favoriting Slice Me Nice7"  Polydor Records  1984  7"  Deutschland    0:51:43 (Pop-up)
 
Paleface  Burn And Rob (Again)   Favoriting Paleface  Polydor  1991    Yes, he DOES know Beck    0:57:32 (Pop-up)


Listener comments!

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Terre T:

DJ Courtney Noir, host of the program Mystery Date!! on KZUM.org, makes a triumphant return to the Drop In program, bringing you Dark Delights, Power Pearls and Synth Blossoms from across the globe!
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courtneynoir:

Aw craps here we go
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SF Sorrow:

Hello Courtney Noir!
Hello Terre T!
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Frank In Queens:

Alright!
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MOM WHIG:

Hi there SD, Franks in Q's & courtneynoir
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courtneynoir:

Hey everybody!
  6:02pm
clarke:

all right all right!!
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medson:

Hey Courtney and all
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Handy Haversack:

Excellent!

Gotta run and feed the neighbors' cats and grab a slice. Back ASAP!
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luka:

good evening
  6:02pm
clarke:

cold pizza??
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MOM WHIG:

clarke, medson, Handy H
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courtneynoir:

@Handy - a cold slice?
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Gaylord Fields:

Hi, Courtney Noir! Thanks for helping feel like I'm 18 again with these songs!
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Donny Brooker:

Slaite Courtney! Started off right with some Belfast punks!
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Pauly from Clifton:

Hiya, Courtney, gang!
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Terre T:

AWW YEAHN da Courtney Noir is in da house!
Starting out STRONG!
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MOM WHIG:

luka, Gaylord, Donny, Pauly
  6:03pm
clarke:

hiya Mom!!!!
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courtneynoir:

@Gaylord - anytime, Gaylord!
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MOM WHIG:

Terre T - good to see you too
  6:04pm
maria c.:

Hello, Good Saturday Evening to you !!!
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Gaylord Fields:

Decades ago, a friend thought the line from the Beatles' "One After 909" was "Move over once/Move over twice/C'mon baby, don't be a cold slice"!
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Pauly from Clifton:

Hiya, MOM WHIG!
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MOM WHIG:

hi there maria c
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courtneynoir:

Thanks as always to TERRE T, the REAL World's Greatest DJ!
  6:05pm
clarke:

decades ahead of my time!!
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Courtney and everyone!
  6:05pm
maria c.:

Hi MOM WHIG . ;D
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MOM WHIG:

Candy - happy youi are here
  6:05pm
clarke:

CANDY!!!
  6:06pm
clarke:

thought you were headed to jazzfest?? NO???
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Gaylord Fields:

@courtneynoir: Terre T is [insert emoji of goat]!
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Candy-O'67:

Thx, Mom! I've been listening to records this afternoon and picking out songs for my show coming up in June
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Gaylord Fields:

Hiya, Mom Whig!
  6:06pm
maria c.:

@ Pauly from Clifton. I'll be moving back to Clifton from N.H.
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Clarke!
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Stu Rutherford:

Hello Courtney & everyone. Thought I was gonna have to catch this in the archives but I made it home in time to catch most of the show!
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Stu!
  6:07pm
clarke:

howdy! u headed nola way next week?
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courtneynoir:

@Stu - I'm honoured, sir
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Terre T:

This.
Mekanik DK.
Is
Sick.
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Candy-O'67:

Yep, Clarke, sure am!
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courtneynoir:

Sorry about the levels on some of these older tunes - I worked really hard at trying to even things out!!!
  6:08pm
clarke:

cool!! (well, it probably won't be cool)
  6:08pm
maria c.:

Hi Terre T. Welcome.
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Candy-O'67:

Sounding good, Courtney!
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Candy-O'67:

Ha, clarke! It's already hot over here, too!
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Donny Brooker:

Lovin da tunes, Courtney!
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Gaylord Fields:

Hi, Stu! Congrats on the new show! Can't wait to tune in!
  6:10pm
clarke:

shall we try for another FMU meet-up?? there's a gang of us in nola. but, i realize time is tight with the fest stuff.
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Gaylord Fields:

@Donny Brooker: That Victim song had me thinking of you, for obvious reasons. ☘️
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courtneynoir:

@Donny Brooker Ta!
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Stu Rutherford:

Hello Candy!
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MOM WHIG:

Good you made it Stu
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Stu Rutherford:

Thanks Gaylord!...and hello!
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Stu Rutherford:

Hi Mom Whig!
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Terre T:

Hellooo SF Sorrow, Frank IN Queens, MOM WHIG, clarke, medson, Handy Haversack, luka, Donny Brooker, Pauly From Clifton, maria c, Candy-O'67, Stu Rutherford
and of course
Gaylord ❣️❣️❣️
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Scott67:

G'day Courtney & Drop-ins!
☕😎🤙☀️🌏🌻
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Frank In Queens:

Hi Terre!
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MOM WHIG:

Scotttty G'day to you too
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Stu Rutherford:

Hi Terre!
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courtneynoir:

This is the one that's gonna get stuck in your head, guys
  6:14pm
clarke:

miss T!!!
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Gaylord Fields:

@Terre T: 🖤 u rooroo!!
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Frank In Queens:

Hi there MOM
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Scott67:

G'day MOM ✌😎🌺
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Terre T:

NICE THE ATRIX!
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Fatherflot:

Hey Courtney! Blasting YOOO!
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Donny Brooker:

U sure you from the Midwest luv,? Some good irish cuts in the set...
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MOM WHIG:

F2 welcome - more LL today
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Fatherflot:

MW. Not today
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courtneynoir:

@Sonny B - if only I weren't
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courtneynoir:

( @Donny B)
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Pauly from Clifton:

@maria c, welcome back to Jersey! A little different from NH, but there is Garrett Mt and Great Falls.
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courtneynoir:

The letters on this keyboard have rubbed off - I'm driving with a blindfold on!
  6:18pm
clarke:

very a serb-ic!!
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Fatherflot:

Courtney. I am one state over in Iowa
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Pauly from Clifton:

Hiya Terre!
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MOM WHIG:

SFS is in NH
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courtneynoir:

@Fatherflot - I lived there once, briefly, in the 80s
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Handy Haversack:

Sounding great, courtneynoir!
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Candy-O'67:

I'll need to play it by ear, clarke. Let me see how it's going while we are there. I gotta run it by my friend. I know we plan on trying to catch some music out on some of the nights, too. That might be a fun meetup
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Pauly from Clifton:

G'day Scotty! How's Sunday morning coming down?
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Terre, Fatherflot, Pauly, Scotty-O, Handy, Donny!
  6:21pm
clarke:

ok, hmm. how to contact? write me at clarke@thebeachcomber.com (gmail), maybe?
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Fatherflot:

CST zone got choonz too
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Pauly from Clifton:

Hiya, Candy-O!
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Fatherflot:

Hey Candy,!
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medson:

Killer show happening
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Fatherflot:

Luv this one
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Candy-O'67:

Hey medson! Been working on picking songs for mt show today😉
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courtneynoir:

Thanks @medson!
  6:26pm
Lfirebrand:

Hi from Omaha. 😻
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Frank In Queens:

Digging this Tin Twist, courtney!
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Fatherflot:

Ottumwa in the house
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courtneynoir:

Hi Lexi!
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Candy-O'67:

Wow, I had clicky starred this one before, courtney. I don't remember hearing it before 😅
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Frank!
  6:27pm
Christina Ginger:

Tin twist has a nice noir garage thing going on. It’s pretty cool!
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courtneynoir:

@Candy I love when that happens ha ha - makes me not feel old & forgetful at all ha ha
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Candy-O'67:

I agree, Christina Ginger. Hey!
  6:28pm
Lfirebrand:

Sounding awesome!
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Candy-O'67:

Right, courtney! Haha!
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MOM WHIG:

hi Christina, Lfirebrand
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Stu Rutherford:

@Candy - I've had similar situations when I discover a cool new song and find out I've had it on a comp for years! BTW, when does your Drop-In air?
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Frank In Queens:

Heya Candy!
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courtneynoir:

Ooh - thanks for adding that link, Terre! (I really need to check Bandcamp more before I spend all that time transferring vinyl to digital)
  6:37pm
Andres:

Hi, Courtney! Hey, all! I am late. I am also immediately liking!
  6:37pm
Christina Ginger:

Hey Candy and MOM!
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MOM WHIG:

hi there Andres
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courtneynoir:

Thanks for tuning in @Andres
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Scott67:

G'day Pauly< Sun's shinning Espresso Machine is heating. For a much needed Triple Espresso, 13 hour session at TRASH CULT yesterday & 2 Bands. Goin back there today for a Band from the US.
How's your World mate?
☕😎🤙🍻🌏
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Frank In Queens:

Scott, what's up man?!
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Terre T:

I freagin love this HUSSY jam!!!
  6:40pm
Andres:

Hi, Mom Whig!
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Donny Brooker:

Lots of bangers tonight. Thanks Courtney
  6:41pm
Christina Ginger:

Terre, I agree- it’s really cool.
  6:41pm
Lfirebrand:

Hi Mom Whig!
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Handy Haversack:

Hate to say it, but I have to run. Many thanks, courtneynoir! Wish I could stay for the whole thing. Sounding great!

Later on, everyone! Stay Dropped In!
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courtneynoir:

Sometimes I play new stuff ..... sometimes
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courtneynoir:

@Handy - thanks!
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DJ PB:

Very cool, courtney!!
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MOM WHIG:

Bye Handy H
  6:43pm
Andres:

Courtney: Is French the dominant foreign language in your playlists or other?
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courtneynoir:

@DJ PB - thanks! I'm actually doing a radio thingy here in town earlier tomorrow so I took off work and will get to listen to your show live for a change
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Scott67:

G'day Candy-O! ☕😎🤙🐶🌵🌻
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Pauly from Clifton:

Scott you are a beast! Rock until you drop! I am enjoying some quiet outdoor time after a bunch of social events the past week. After two years I am out of practice!
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Candy-O'67:

Hey, Stu! I've had that happen,too! Too funny! June 18
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Chris Crash:

Loving the show Courtney!! Always love yr stuff 🙌
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MOM WHIG:

hi there DJ PB
  6:45pm
Lfirebrand:

I want your life, Scott67
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MOM WHIG:

hey there Chris Crash
  6:45pm
Lfirebrand:

Andres, she loves German too
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DJ PB:

Hi Mom Whig!

That would be cool, courtney! So much pressure on me now!
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Candy-O'67:

Hey Chris Crash!
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courtneynoir:

@Andres - lots of French, German & Scandinavia stuff, I admit ... I know those languages so I can pronounce them ha ha
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courtneynoir:

@Chris Crash - thanks of course
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Stu Rutherford:

@Candy - I'm marking my calendar!
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Candy-O'67:

Clarke, I can do that. Sorry, just saw your comment
  6:47pm
clarke:

kewl
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courtneynoir:

@Candy-O I'll be tuning in!
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Scott67:

G'day Frank! Goin to TRASH CULT for a Sunday session. 2 acts from USA Franklins Mint & Dr El Suavo.
🍻😎🤙
  6:48pm
Andres:

Appreciating the diversity! While I can manage most Latin based languages, when looking at a record label in a bin I am often without a clue and fear I’ve left behind something interesting.
  6:51pm
ike-o:

peace, tha ks forba great show !
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Mike Sin:

Enjoying the show! Listening in the car while coming back from record shopping actually.
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Terre T:

Damn this show is an otherworldly Percocet driven European fever dream of days of a recent past I never had
  6:52pm
clarke:

whatdja git Mike?
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courtneynoir:

@Terre T - I take that as a HUGE compliment ha ha
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MOM WHIG:

courtneynoir - THANKS for a Super Drop-In today.
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courtneynoir:

@Mike Sin try not to drive off the road from boogying to much to Fancy!
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Scott67:

Pauly, I know what ya mean mate. I don't count TRASH CULT as a social event, more like my cave.
But I am hangin to do some quiet outside time, just me & Gus. Weather's been shit though.
Enjoy cobber! ( Sun gone away now)
🍻😎🤙🐶🌻🌏
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Mike Sin:

@clarke — 45s
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courtneynoir:

Thanks, @Mom
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Donny Brooker:

Legend show Courtney, cheers!
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Candy-O'67:

Thx, courtney!😘😊🤗
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Terre T:

And OMG THIS CHOON??
LUVIN da totes gaye euro disco . . .
"SLICE ME NICE"
🤦‍♀️😜😹
  6:54pm
clarke:

fab sounds, yah!!!
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Independent Record Store Owner.:

If anyone sees Mike Sin let him know his check bounced.
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Candy-O'67:

I really like this Fancy song. Reminds me of dancing all night at #'s back in Houston in the '80's
  6:55pm
Andres:

Thanks, Courtney! Looking forward to catching up with what I missed!
  6:55pm
clarke:

i'm like a cake that wants to be baked
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medson:

Thanks Courtney. Awesome selections
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Candy-O'67:

Thx so much, courtney! Enjoyed it and you really know your game for this style of music! 🙌
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Gaylord Fields:

Courtney, this show has been an exemplar of the form! You are a virtuoso on your instrument! I throw all the thanks in your direction!
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courtneynoir:

@clarke I mean, aren't we all ha ha ha ha
  6:56pm
clarke:

fun show!!! thnx!!
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Scott67:

Hah! Cheers Firebrand. I do sweet FA when not at TRASH CULT, & it's normally only open twice a week. I lead a very boring introverted life normally.
🍻😎🤙
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luka:

all new-to-me jams, but that’s not hard. good stuff.
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courtneynoir:

Thanks everyone!
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Frank In Queens:

Fantastic yet again, Courtney! Please Drop In again soon!
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Scott67:

Terre @6:51. Word!! 😎🤙
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courtneynoir:

Punkest rockest choon
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Stu Rutherford:

Great show, Courtney!
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Terre T:

KUDOS COURTNEY for this amazing show❣️
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Scott67:

Fucken RABBIT!!!!!
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courtneynoir:

Awww MAN the CUT OFF!!!
Thanks so much!!!
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Terre T:

If u guys like this show check her show MYSTERY DATE out on Sunday nights on KZUM.org 11pm EST
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Scott67:

Thanks for your awesomness Courtney!
🍻😎🤙🌻
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courtneynoir:

archives there are up for 2 weeks, not like this fancy place
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LesleyK:

hey Courtney! finally listening on the archives and this show sounds so great!
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