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Favoriting May 18, 2022: "Horse," as a Term, Has No Inherent Horse-Like Qualities

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Artist Track Album Label Approx. start time
Ustad Shujaat Khan & Enayet Hossain  Raga: Pahari   Favoriting Sweet Melodies  Aimrec  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Mehdi Hassan  Patta Patta Boota Boota   Favoriting Ghazals (Vol II)  EMI  0:15:24 (Pop-up)
Asha Bhosle & Bhupinder  Kisi Nazar Ko   Favoriting Aitbaar  Super  0:19:54 (Pop-up)
Pankaj Udas  Choom Kar Madh Bhari Aankhen   Favoriting Na-Yaab  Music India  0:26:56 (Pop-up)
Anuradha Paudwal & Amit Sana  Thi Meri Dastan   Favoriting Kalyug  Saregama India  0:32:59 (Pop-up)
Lata Mangeshkar  Tujhse Naraz Nahin Zindagi   Favoriting The Best of Gulzar Ever, Vol. 3  Saregama India  0:37:20 (Pop-up)
Lata Mangeshkar  Aye Dil E Nadan   Favoriting Razia Sultan  Saregama India  0:40:43 (Pop-up)
 
Smt. Rajeswari Pariti  Venkata Chala   Favoriting Carnatic Veena Recital By Smt. Rajeswari Pariti  The Orchard  0:53:02 (Pop-up)
Ganesh & Kumaresh  Raga Karnaranjani   Favoriting Thillanas: A Confluence Of Rhythm & Melody  Living Media India  0:57:17 (Pop-up)
Heeralal Dhandhada  Raga Maand   Favoriting Mewar Re Mira  Navras  1:02:02 (Pop-up)
Nirmala Rajasekar  Sarasuda Varnam (Raga Saveri, Aadi Tala)   Favoriting Into the Raga  Innova  1:06:32 (Pop-up)
Sabri Khan  Sham Kalyan   Favoriting Sarangi  EMI  1:13:00 (Pop-up)
Emani Sankara Sastry  Raga Vachaspathi   Favoriting Inde Du Sud - Concert De Vina, Par E.S.Sastry  Ocora  1:18:10 (Pop-up)
 
Ashwini Bhide Deshpande  Raga Bhimpalasi   Favoriting The Best of Hindustani Vocal, Vol. 1  Living Media India  1:28:25 (Pop-up)
Kala Ramnath  Maand - Hori   Favoriting Country Classics from India - Violin Recital  Kalashree  1:35:46 (Pop-up)
Nazakat & Salamat Ali Khan  Thumri In Raga Pahadi   Favoriting Raga Darbari Kanarra  Network  1:42:56 (Pop-up)
G.S.Sachdev  Romantic Dialogue   Favoriting Bansuri - The Bamboo Flute Of India  Lyrichord  1:58:15 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05pm
coelacanth∅:

unlike,say, "grub"
Avatar 🥁 10:05pm
DL in LA:

I lost my horse! (I can't be the only commenter to ever say that.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06pm
Sam Segal:

@Coel, or "glug," for that matter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06pm
coelacanth∅:

greetings Sam, stablemates & unstablemates
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07pm
Sam Segal:

You've come to the right place, DL!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08pm
zzz:

DJ SS, all folks: hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08pm
coelacanth∅:

yes, and "POP"
Avatar 10:08pm
Listener Gregory:

My horse was lost but now is found, was blind but now it sees.
I'm just here for a few minutes. Loving the raga.
Avatar 🥁 10:09pm
DL in LA:

Cool. I had a weird feeling this was the right place for me. The raga already confirms it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10pm
coelacanth∅:

bratt avenue, huh... i grew up on bratt avenue.
well, okay it wasn't called that until i was living there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm
doctorjazz:

Hi Sam and equestrians! Be in and out for the last 2 hours of my birthday (another shameless hint for birthday wishes).
Avatar 10:13pm
Listener Gregory:

Will this be the raga-and-bone shop of my heart??
I don't celebrate birthdays, @doctorj, but I hope today is not too awful for you.
Avatar 10:15pm
northguineahills:

@coel: So, you went to the Bratt Inst as well?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15pm
zzz:

happy bday docjazz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
doctorjazz:

Had to take my aging pooch Ozzie to the Vet, likely arthritis we were told ($600 later-that's lots of LPs and CDs...)
Avatar 10:17pm
Listener Gregory:

Wouldn't Ozzie be happier listening to your CDs than getting that nasty medicine?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:17pm
Sam Segal:

Welcome, zzz, Listener Gregory, Doc, and NGH!
Avatar 10:18pm
northguineahills:

I hope you had a whinnying bday today, dr. jazz, see rouncey, you hear.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18pm
doctorjazz:

Thanks, zzz!
Some Raga and Roll, amirite?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18pm
Sam Segal:

Happy birthday, Doc! Always feel free to plug your day on this comments board. Hope Ozzie's joints feel better soon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19pm
zzz:

i am looking forward to getting schooled tonight on ragas/indian classical music/etc. i recently picked up a reissue of a brij bhushan kabra release that i’ve been obsessed with. listened to it on repeat for a couple days, but overall very unfamiliar with all of these amazing sounds
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:19pm
WR:

seems like bodegan sprawl. Ridgewood was Arabic singers, now Sam is raga-ing out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Sam Segal:

WR! Gary's influence is inescapable...especially on Wednesdays.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22pm
doctorjazz:

Thanks-definitely on world tour since 5 pm today, very nice!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22pm
Sam Segal:

@zzz, I've never listened to Brij Bhusan Kabra. Very intrigued by him based on my quick Google just now.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:22pm
WR:

zzz, it seems like you are already deep into Indian classical and related musics, but, of course, once we start learning, we will always be students.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22pm
🇺🇦 Ike 🇺🇦:

I know it's not a competition, but GtDR is killing it. Killing what exactly? I have no idea!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24pm
doctorjazz:

Always like hearing Indian music, but have to sayi know nothing about it. (So much music, so little time...)
  10:24pm
Dean:

Nikhil Banerjee is my go-to for straight-ahead classical raga recitals.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
Sam Segal:

Ike! Thank you! We aims to kill...or wait, maybe not.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
Sam Segal:

Same here, Dean. Nikhil Banerjee was the first Indian classical artist I ever got really into, other than general exposure to Ravi Shankar as a kid.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
zzz:

we might be hearing some later, but Dean, Sam, any
particular release you recommend for checking out Banerjee?
  10:28pm
Dean:

Decades ago I managed to go to an India festival in Long Beach, CA, at a large venue. Performers danced, played, and sang, including Lakshmi Shankar, which was a big deal. I was in my usual t-shirt and jeans, but most of the female attendees were in saris. I sat next to one, who said to me, "You are the most comfortable person here."
Avatar 10:28pm
Listener Gregory:

Sam, what makes a composition a raga in particular? Use of a certain scale?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
Sam Segal:

I listen to the album "Afternoon Ragas" (1992) by Nikhil Banerjee a lot...often in the afternoon.
  10:30pm
Dean:

For Banerjee, yes: this live recording from De Kosmos in Amsterdam, 1972, and beyond that anything from Raga:
https://www.discogs.com/master/2321113-Nikhil-Banerjee-Live-At-De-Kosmos-Amsterdam-1972
  10:31pm
rw:

Good evening! Happy to be without my horse here for a couple hours.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
Sam Segal:

@ListenerGregory, I am far from an expert, but my understanding is that a raga is sort of like a specific combination of different scales.
  10:31pm
Dean:

Ragas are scales, and one performs them in a form not unlike sonata form inasmuch as there are rules for proceeding from one segment to the next.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
doctorjazz:

Ragas are based on scales...
"What is a Raga? - Raag Hindustani" raag-hindustani.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
zzz:

thanks for the recs!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32pm
Sam Segal:

rw, you make a great point...it never occurred to me that being without a horse might be a good thing!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32pm
Sam Segal:

Dean's explanation makes more sense than mine.
Avatar 10:35pm
Listener Gregory:

Thanks for the raga ed, everyone.
  10:35pm
rw:

I have a friend who was taking sitar lessons... he had a funny story I'm sure won't be so funny if I retell it... basically, he had learned a morning raga and had been practicing it. His teacher then taught him an afternoon raga so he would have something to play in the afternoon. My friend said, but I can still practice the morning raga at other times of day, right? The teacher paused and said, ...I wouldn't.
  10:37pm
Dean:

God bless George Harrison for making sure we heard Ravi.
Avatar 10:38pm
Listener Gregory:

@rw, why tempt the fates?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39pm
Sam Segal:

Hahahaha that is a great story, rw. In this book I was reading, "Finding the Raga: An Improvisation on Indian Music" by Amit Chaudhuri, he talks about how the time of day associated with each raga is non-mimetic...like there's no "morning" quality in a morning raga. That is what led to this week's episode title.
  10:43pm
rw:

Really, Sam? I thought for sure there was some quality I was just too uneducated to notice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44pm
Sam Segal:

I had the same thought for years, but apparently not!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44pm
doctorjazz:

That is a cool story rw!
  10:44pm
Dean:

Western classical music isn't all that different. The pursuit of mimesis and verisimilitude really needs to be applied cautiously.
Avatar 10:50pm
Listener Gregory:

I pursued mimesis until the court order came down. I don't say that proudly.
Avatar 10:57pm
Listener Gregory:

The talkover music reminded me of an album I used to listen to in the previous century by jazz saxophonist John Handy and a number of Indian musicians. It was a cassette I used to play when I had to work on the weekends. At some point, I began to notice that the music was really deviating from Western scales. Then I realized that the cassette tape was stretching and getting farther and farther from reality with each playing. I never found the album on LP or disc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
Sam Segal:

Wow, I'd love to hear that album, both the warped un-warped versions.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
doctorjazz:

Love that, LG!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
doctorjazz:

Was this it?
"John Handy & Ali Akbar Khan – Two Originals: Karuna Supreme & Rainbow (CD) - Discogs" www.discogs.com...

"Rainbow (John Handy album) - Wikipedia" en.m.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04pm
doctorjazz:

Ok, loving this, back in a bit...
Avatar 11:05pm
Listener Gregory:

I think the album was Rainbow, with Ali Akhbar Kahn and L. Subramaniam. Ooops, you beat me to it, @doctorj. I should try to find Karuna Supreme.
  11:06pm
rw:

Is there a way to slow down a CD player? Drag your thumb on the edge or something?
Avatar 11:10pm
Listener Gregory:

@rw, I think you have to speed yourself up instead.
  11:11pm
rw:

Ah! LG. Of course.
Avatar 11:16pm
Listener Gregory:

I sadly have to leave, to see a man about a horse. Thanks, Sam! And many happy returns, @doctorj!
Avatar 11:16pm
northguineahills:

laters, LG!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17pm
Sam Segal:

Glad to have you aboard, LG!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17pm
zzz:

this sounds so good
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18pm
Sam Segal:

Sabri Khan really rips it up on that one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
Sam Segal:

Interesting to hear the Veena without the drone on this track. I love the tone of this instrument.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20pm
zzz:

very cool sounds on these lead strings
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23pm
doctorjazz:

HI-back from Headspace-ing!
This Raga Vachaspathi at times sounds like country blues, other times like Jewish Cantorial/Chazanish music...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30pm
Sam Segal:

I can hear both of those vibes in that piece as well, Doc. To bring it back to this book that inspired the show, Amit Chaudhuri had a term for his experience of hearing the blues in a raga. He called it "double hearing." Sounds like you may have uncovered "triple hearing."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31pm
Sam Segal:

This is the book, by the way: www.nyrb.com...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:39pm
WR:

Kala Ramnath gets my top clicky star tonight. Lovely.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
Sam Segal:

Glad you like it too, WR. If I'm not mistaken, a "Hori" is a light classical song form traditionally performed around the Holi festival of colors.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56pm
chresti:

Hello listening! And Learning about what one can and cannot carry on a plane. You can pack an axe or hatchet in check-in luggage only, for example
Avatar 11:56pm
northguineahills:

lost internet, and am back for the end.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
Sam Segal:

Never know when you might need your hatchet, Chresti!
  11:57pm
rw:

chresti, how are you supposed to build a campfire on your way to the Bay?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59pm
doctorjazz:

Almost time for the stable, thanks for the subcontinental sounds Sam, night all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00am
doctorjazz:

chresti-Madison Cawthorn learned that the hard way...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02am
caroline from atlanta:

been listening while doing some cleaning and really enjoyed the show, ty sam!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02am
coelacanth∅:

Thank you Sam!
Happy post-birthday doctor!
  12:04am
rw:

That was quick. Thank you Sam! Fun AND interesting. Good night everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:04am
zzz:

this was a great show, thanks SS! goodnight, all
(LOVED the Ali Khan brothers track)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:04am
coelacanth∅:

what the hell! since when does the drummer stream cut off live programming?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 12:04am
WR:

Thank you Sam!

doctorjazz, starting count down to your next birthday!
  12:05am
rw:

Sam, you pulled the plug on yourself. Good night!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:05am
coelacanth∅:

that's some bunny shit!

...Thanks Sam
tchau peeps
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:05am
Sam Segal:

Wow, lost internet at the perfect time. Not sure what happened on my end. Thank you all for being here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:06am
Sam Segal:

Just to clarify, it was an internet issue on my end, not the stream's fault.
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