WFMU: Eclectical Banana with Julie: Playlist from July 3, 2022

Listener comments!
	10:00pm Robm: Hey Julie
	10:01pm Julie: hiya Rob!
	10:02pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Mixed Fruits! 🍻😎🤙🍌☀️🌏🌻
	10:03pm Julie: hiya Scott!
	10:03pm Robm: Hi again scott67
	10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...the horse really hit those odd high harmonies better than Crosby...
	10:04pm Scott67: G'day Robm!🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:04pm Julie: hiya Rev!
	10:05pm Androu B.: Good Evening, Julie! Glad to see you again, Scott67! 👍😎🍻
	10:05pm Julie: hiya Androu!
	10:06pm Tome: Hiyas Julie great start lovin' IT !<>!
	10:06pm Julie: hiya Tome! Thank you!
	10:07pm Androu B.: Hello, RRN63, Robm, Tome!
	10:08pm Robm: Hey androu
	10:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and exotic daiquiris!
	10:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo All ! ...makin' me think of CaptainBeyond again. Thx.
	10:09pm Robm: Hey ken what’s up
	10:09pm Tome: hi Androu B.
	10:09pm Julie: hi Ken!
	10:10pm Julie: ooh I keep forgetting to check them out
	10:11pm Tome: hi RRN so remember that 1st Captail Beyond Record ,, of course didn't dawn on me to much latter was Rod Evans singing on it too )
	10:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 1st CaptainBeyond album all the way! Too Proggy for the Metalheads - too Metal for the Proggiez. Delicious.
	10:13pm Robm: These Beatles remakes sound better the originals
	10:13pm Julie: it's so nice they are not carbon copies
	10:14pm MHLee: hello
	10:14pm Julie: hiya MHLee!
	10:14pm Androu B.: So, RRN63, what fortunes and fates do the stars hold for us tonight?
	10:14pm Robm: @Julie i so agree
	10:14pm MHLee: Shoot i missed deep purples help...
	10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Better? I dissent. The Purple was real good. Not the Supremes greatest moment imho. But to cover the Fabs & not be ashamed gets points.
	10:15pm Julie: @Rev this is post Diana Supremes... it's a different animal
	10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Aha.
	10:17pm Robm: @RRN63 i am one of those people who if I don’t hear another Beatles song would be okay with me
	10:17pm Julie: I do enjoy the Beatles. But there are other UK bands too.
	10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& I'm a different animal from that.
	10:18pm Tome: !<>!
	10:18pm Robm: I know it is not a popular thing to say @Julie yes there was
	10:19pm Julie: hating on the Beatles is trendy these days. I love them. They changed everything. But there are other greats from that time also.
	10:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah ok - Beatles as prolific & consistent & most representative even - but I balk if the entire Rawk Revolution of the 1960s isn't recognized. Say ...top of the pyramid maybe - probly even - but not in a vacuum.
	10:20pm Robm: @Julie it is just that i hear the same songs over and over, and just gets old
	10:21pm Julie: Yes! When I play them I try to pick something I know less. I've been surprised how many of their songs I don't know that well.
	10:22pm Robm: @Julie noticed that thanks
	10:22pm Julie: I mean, I am not above playing Love Me Do because I love it but I didn't play them for a long time because I felt they had no surprises left for me. I was wrong.
	10:23pm Robm: But when i hear the rest of the djs at the magic factory play them it’s SSDD
	10:23pm Robm: Okay off my Beatles soapbox
	10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Particularly since holding the 2009 Remasters box in one hand - I see the entire Beatles oeuvre as one body of work. I'm in too deep for any to be especially lesser known personally ...but there's great diversity there. TheBeatles were devoted to both the Twin Gawds of Excellence & Change.
	10:24pm Tome: from Rubber Soul to Revolver is just mindblowing though if you think about it just one example ....
	10:24pm MHLee: Here's one I don't know. Very Sabbath
	10:25pm Julie: I feel like Tractor is one of those Clay Pigeon bands
	10:25pm Robm: @MHLee thought the same thing too
	10:25pm Androu B.: Oh, thanx for the Zappa fix, Julie, since I have yet to listen to Medson's Mother's Day show. (Btw, already have this album in an mp3 archive tucked away in one of my hard drives.)
	10:26pm Julie: I feel honored to give you something new, MHlee
	10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Tome I do think the Peak was in the Middle - pretty naturally - that kind of curve...
	10:26pm Julie: Zappa has always been inaccessible to me. I didn't get it. But so many I know do. So I'm exploring from the beginning.
	10:28pm MHLee: @Julie Freak Out is fun and in a lot of styles... Joe's garage is also approachable... water melon in the easter hay is a great gilmore style guitar solo
	10:29pm David Shortell: I never liked anything of his but "Freak Out" and "The World's Greatest Sinner".
	10:29pm Julie: He goes everywhere, which is probably why I have so much trouble with him but also makes it more likely I'll find something I like
	10:29pm Julie: hi David!
	10:29pm MHLee: I also like we're only in for the money as a savage parody of the hippy ethos... i haven't listened to much more
	10:30pm Julie: yes those are the two I have, that one and freak out
	10:30pm Robm: I have tried to listen to zappa but he is just too strange for me
	10:30pm MHLee: The Sonic's actually covered "Anyway the Wind Goes" as a nice ballad
	10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zappa is so sardonic & cynical - can leave a bitter aftertaste. Sometimes felt like he'd rather be writing for orchestras & was just slumming it with Rawk audiences. Not that I always disagree with his views - in fact he was a super-relevant Voice in the Culture - something like what Jello Biafra became later. & what brings me back to Zappa & the Mothers is - mygawd - the Musicianship ! It got simply incredible. & of course ...a lot of the time he is really freaking funny.
	10:32pm Julie: oh he was a great voice, always like him as a person just had trouble getting into his music.
	10:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah he was off on his own to a real extent.
	10:32pm Robm: @RRN63 i guess frank is an aqquaried taste
	10:33pm Scott67: G'day Androu!🍻😎🤙💨🍺 Sorry mate, I was on phone with Mum.
	10:33pm MHLee: Zappa was highly intellectual, my friend who composes classical music. arranges orchestra, and plays in a metal band is super into him but he has the same classical influences
	10:33pm MHLee: Stravinsky and the atonals
	10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: IQ in the high stratosphere for sure.
	10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 1st album 1966 yes.
	10:34pm MHLee: And a double album
	10:35pm David Shortell: "We're Only in It for the Money" seems inspired by geographical snobbery--i.e., LA versus San Fran. Todd Haynes' documentary indicates that the Velvet Underground hated Zappa and the San Franciscans equally.
	10:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: AndrouB - the Astrological thing I'm thinking of today is it's the 1st day of the 260 day cycle in the MesoAmerican Calendar : www.azteccalendar.com - which is Crocodile. Very Primal & Maternal energy.
	10:38pm MHLee: @Daivd recently read about that feud... they eventually came around... but yeah he hated the Andy Warhol heroin cliche... Lou inducted him into the hall of fame
	10:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'd differentiate between CountryRawk & SouthernRawk ...GramParsons not withstanding...
	10:39pm Androu B.: @RRN63 @10:31 That being said, there's still a chance that another Zappa cult following will emerge in these weird, harsh times we've just found ourselves in.
	10:39pm MHLee: faroutmagazine.co.uk...
	10:40pm Robm: @androu and they will like Donald Trump too
	10:40pm MHLee: @RRabbit there's a really good discussion of the three currents (country rock, southern rock, and west coast county) in the acid archives book
	10:40pm MHLee: Did the stream just take over?
	10:40pm David Shortell: I always saw the Byrds' "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" as the first Flying Burrito Brothers album.
	10:41pm MHLee: I love that album, but I played in a bluegrass band
	10:42pm Julie: oh no
	10:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Seems like robostream alright. MHLee - acid archives book?
	10:43pm Robm: @MHLee did not really notice
	10:43pm MHLee: psychedelic-rocknroll.blogspot.com... a guide to private press, extremely expensive
	10:44pm MHLee: i paid like 50 for it used, but I was trying really hard to identify a song
	10:44pm Julie: hang tight guys not sure what's wrong definitely on my end
	10:45pm Robm: Well goinh to bed got a busy day tomorrow
	10:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx MHLee.
	10:46pm Julie: okay I think i am back...nite Robm
	10:46pm MHLee: william is back
	10:47pm MHLee: a little soft
	10:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Back ! ...@ least on FMU the autostreams are listenable too...
	10:47pm MHLee: maybe i turned down the stream
	10:48pm Androu B.: Yes, can confirm that the rabbit broke into the stream at my end as well. But at least it was playing something appropriately French, following Rich Whig's spotlight on Quebecoise bands earlier.
	10:50pm Androu B.: Speaking of which...
	10:51pm Julie: yeah the robot is louder than my broadcast generally
	10:52pm MHLee: You know, I need to relisten to cohen, I know his 2 albums and death of a ladies man pretty well... and the last album but the rest not really
	10:55pm Dean: Sorry to say I am no fan of Cohen. Like Springsteen, he writes songs that never sound like they needed to have been written.
	10:56pm MHLee: I'm not a springsteen fan
	10:56pm Julie: wow I don't know Ladies Man at all...hiya Dean, I' not sure what that means actually. Too mundane?
	10:56pm MHLee: I'm not from New Jersey, I don't get it
	10:56pm MHLee: This is proto-gothic
	10:57pm Julie: the synth on this is fab
	10:58pm Julie: james newton howard who played with Elton if I remember right
	10:58pm MHLee: @Julie DOALM was scolded by the press as "Leonard Cohen's doo-wap nightmare". Phil Spector held people at gunpoint to produce it. I find it full of extremely catchy earworms with enigmatic lyrics
	10:58pm David Shortell: I'm from New Jersey and I don't get it either, Lee.
	10:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Spector & his guns. Synth reminds me of some KeithEmerson.
	11:00pm Dean: I have to add that even though I don't enjoy Cohen's writing, I like the fact that now and then I get to hear him thanks to y'all. Mundane is one way to put it. Mostly I'm not favorably impressed with his poetry and music. Which isn't to say I'm not at all impressed. I can smell a Cohen tune a mile away. A buddy of mine stayed with us last weekend. He revealed that his favorite live rock album is this Renaissance album! And in fact he referred to "Ashes Are Burning" as an example!
	11:01pm Julie: oh wow...I found this double LP for like $1 at the WFMU record fair!
	11:02pm MHLee: I have a few Rennaisance live albums and one studio album on cd. The live albums are great.
	11:02pm Dean: I caught Renaissance live around this time at the Greek Theater in LA. Jean Luc-Ponty opened. I once owned the album, but sold it. Just a week ago I found it again for two bucks, but I wasn't happy with the condition.
	11:03pm Julie: I saw them live a few years ago, don't know how many of THEM are there, maybe it's just Annie and her backing band now, but they were amazing. I think they're playing this fall at either the beacon or town hall I forget.
	11:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Startled to read so many dismiss Cohen. Think of him as Dylan's strongest contender for the pole position. Couldn't imagine a world without those songs. Basically the opposite opinion. Will note however that Cave observed that everyone interprets Cohen in such a po-faced manner. He's actually very funny.
	11:03pm Dean: I'm thinking my favorite live album is Yessongs or Allman Brothers at Fillmore East. Yeah, I don't like Nick Cave, either. My thing.
	11:04pm David Shortell: I seem to have hocked my Renaissance debut LP with the two Yardbirds on it. Renaissance did not achieve quite the same success as that other group which rose out of the Yardbirds.
	11:04pm Julie: oh yeah there's definitely a droll sense of humor at work there.
	11:05pm Dean: First two Renaissance albums were the Yardbirds offshoot. By the time the first other Renaissance album appeared, there was no direct connection to Yardbirds.
	11:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never needed Springsteen very much myself - but I think the earlier stuff with too many words to be trendy is pretty high quality.
	11:06pm Julie: I know those first two the least. I have them but I'm all about Annie, really
	11:06pm Julie: @Rev i think that is the general FMU position. although I enjoy a couple of his hits, I think he's overrated.
	11:07pm Julie: by the time I heard springsteen he felt like a mellencamp knockoff to me
	11:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: NickCave I think is incredible - but I don't too often want to 'go there' - to that Noir world. Someone can be really good - & just present a World you don't want to emotionally or consciously inhabit.
	11:08pm MHLee: What's Rennasainces first, is it not on an island?
	11:10pm Julie: it's just called Renaissance and no Annie on it, Keith's wife instead
	11:10pm Dean: Saw Johnny Cougar at the Whisky opening for The Jam. A punk wannabe dressed in a trench coat, a complete poseur. He never transcended that image.
	11:10pm Julie: that was not his successful phase
	11:11pm Julie: they wanted to make him Bowie, it didn't work
	11:11pm MHLee: I'm not a huge Cave fan actually, he's the one in the classic group that I avoid... did like his last album though
	11:12pm Dean: Make Cave Bowie, you mean? Not Cougar...?
	11:13pm David Shortell: Jane Relf is Keith's sister.
	11:14pm Julie: no, I mean Cougar...there are some johnny eyeliner pictures... Oh thanks David, I didn't know that!
	11:15pm Julie: he was with bowie's manager early on
	11:16pm Julie: dangerousminds.net...
	11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interview with Jim McCarty, drummer from the yARdiRdS & Renaissance - lots on KeithRelf & how it all went down : thestrangebrew.co.uk...
	11:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Funny ! Mr. MidWest SmallTown Everyman for MTV - a Glamster ! Think he's actually both better & more real now than any previous time. An okay fellow. Just please spare me the Hits.
	11:20pm Julie: theres a guy called Top Topham??
	11:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Gittar in the yARbiRdS before even Clapton.
	11:21pm Dean: Another favorite live album: Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus. Yep, John(ny) Cougar (M...), poseur.
	11:24pm David Shortell: Though "Top" Topham never recorded with the Yardbirds, he made a solo LP I found at a WFMU record fair!
	11:24pm MHLee: My mother loves that little feat album
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Moodys bringing it Live. BBC anyway...
	11:25pm Julie: I was looking at the discogs entry for the top album there's no vocal credit does he sing on it?
	11:26pm MHLee: Oh yeah I meant to say that the Deep Purple version of Help apparently was well liked by paul so they recorded we can work it out (with beethoven in it) on the second album
	11:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never heard Topham ! I'd be curious. Think the story is he left the band cause he was too young & stayed in school !
	11:29pm MHLee: For the fictional character, see Sir Topham Hatt.
	11:29pm Julie: so because he was 15 we got stuck with that other guy
	11:38pm MHLee: Well Sir Topham Hat put me down a rabbithole and now I know some of the Thomas props have been stolen
	11:43pm Julie: ack I always forget about these backing vocals
	11:44pm MHLee: They sounded parodic
	11:45pm Dean: Is this October 1 or January 10? Backing vocalists are on it. You have a problem?
	11:46pm Julie: some guy 50 years later: listen! That's ME
	11:48pm Julie: Dean that's an excellent question. it is october
	11:52pm MHLee: Joe Byrd of the United States of America I assume
	11:53pm Julie: yes!
	11:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh here's an album that's a big gap in my familiarity. Like the next thing after the UnitedStates of America album.
	11:55pm MHLee: I new he went and did out their stuff... he was a professor I recall
	11:55pm MHLee: There's a number of weird forgotten jazz rock things like this
	11:56pm Scott67: Thanks Julie! Take care mate. ✌️😎🤙🌻💜🦜🦜🦜
	11:56pm MHLee: The numbers band comes to mind which I only discovered because of that book
	11:56pm Julie: he made an album of military marches on synth...
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. I say that we stalled out @ the DNC in Chicago 1968. This could be written this week.
	11:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If I ever heard the name 'Insect Trust' - I certainly never knew them.
	12:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Julie ~
	12:01am MHLee: All I recall about insect trust is people like them.
	12:03am MHLee: Would this be called "loner folk"?
	12:04am Androu B.: Thanx so much as always, Julie! A Happy 4th to you and everyone else here! 🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆
	12:05am Julie: thanks everyone!
	12:05am Roberto: Crap, I forgot to banana.
	12:06am Julie: aww sorry Roberto!
	12:06am MHLee: Thanks, Julie!

Eclectical Banana with Julie: Playlist from July 3, 2022

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Wrap up your weekend with an excursion through the flowery underbelly of the 60s and 70s where the roots are deep, the weeds are plentiful and the grass is high. Sunday will never be the same.

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Marisa Berenson, 1967

Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Delia Derbyshire	Doctor Who (Opening Title Theme, 1970)					0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Byrds	Space Odyssey "Space Odyssey" by "The Byrds"	The Notorious Byrd Brothers	Columbia	1968		0:07:23 (Pop-up)
Deep Purple	Help "Help" by "Deep Purple"	Shades of Deep Purple	Tetragrammaton Records	1968		0:11:08 (Pop-up)
The Supremes	Come Together "Come Together" by "The Supremes"	New Ways But Love Stays	Motown	1970		0:17:04 (Pop-up)
Keith Hudson	Darkest Night "Darkest Night" by "Keith Hudson"	The Black Breast Has Produced Her Best, Flesh Of My Skin Blood Of My Blood	Mamba	1974		0:21:03 (Pop-up)
The Mothers Of Invention	Who Are The Brain Police?	Freak Out!	Verve Records	1966		0:24:01 (Pop-up)
Tractor	All Ends Up "All Ends Up" by "Tractor"	Tractor	Dandelion Records	1972		0:27:35 (Pop-up)
Heaven & Earth	Feel The Spirit "Feel The Spirit" by "Heaven & Earth"	Refuge	Ovation Records	1973		0:34:05 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Vincent Bell	Goin' Out of My Head (instrumental)					0:38:55 (Pop-up)
Ruth Copeland	To William In The Night	Self Portrait	Invictus	1972		0:45:51 (Pop-up)
Leonard Cohen	Avalanche "Avalanche" by "Leonard Cohen"	Songs of Love and Hate	Columbia	1971		0:56:06 (Pop-up)
Mama Lion	Dark Garden "Dark Garden" by "Mama Lion"	Give It Everything I've Got	Family Productions	1973		1:01:02 (Pop-up)
Renaissance	Ashes Are Burning "Ashes Are Burning" by "Renaissance"	Live at Carnegie Hall	Sire	1976		1:05:12 (Pop-up)
The Moody Blues	House of Four Doors	Live at the BBC 1967-1970	Deram	2007		1:28:00 (Pop-up)
The Ride	Sunshine "Sunshine" by "The Ride"	Psychedelic States:The Dakotas in the 60s	Gear Fab Records	2020	b-side of Lovely To See You, 1971	1:33:51 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Moog Machine	Hey Jude "Hey Jude" by "The Moog Machine"					1:37:15 (Pop-up)
Elton John	Madman Across The Water	Tokyo, Japan 10/1/1971	No Label	1971		1:43:27 (Pop-up)
Judy Ongg	Lonely Summer Day "Lonely Summer Day" by "Judy Ongg"	Futari No Kisetsu (Two Seasons)	Columbia	1968		1:55:10 (Pop-up)
Joe Byrd And The Field Hippies	The Elephant At The Door	The American Metaphysical Circus	Columbia Masterworks	1969		1:57:46 (Pop-up)
The Insect Trust	Declaration of Independence	The Insect Trust	Capitol Records	1968		2:03:11 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dick Hyman	Honey West "Honey West" by "Dick Hyman"					2:05:30 (Pop-up)
Victoria (Domagalski)	Now You're Gone	Victoria	San Francisco Records	1971		2:09:19 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:00pm Robm: Hey Julie
	10:01pm Julie: hiya Rob!
	10:02pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Mixed Fruits! 🍻😎🤙🍌☀️🌏🌻
	10:03pm Julie: hiya Scott!
	10:03pm Robm: Hi again scott67
	10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...the horse really hit those odd high harmonies better than Crosby...
	10:04pm Scott67: G'day Robm!🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	10:04pm Julie: hiya Rev!
	10:05pm Androu B.: Good Evening, Julie! Glad to see you again, Scott67! 👍😎🍻
	10:05pm Julie: hiya Androu!
	10:06pm Tome: Hiyas Julie great start lovin' IT !<>!
	10:06pm Julie: hiya Tome! Thank you!
	10:07pm Androu B.: Hello, RRN63, Robm, Tome!
	10:08pm Robm: Hey androu
	10:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and exotic daiquiris!
	10:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hullo All ! ...makin' me think of CaptainBeyond again. Thx.
	10:09pm Robm: Hey ken what’s up
	10:09pm Tome: hi Androu B.
	10:09pm Julie: hi Ken!
	10:10pm Julie: ooh I keep forgetting to check them out
	10:11pm Tome: hi RRN so remember that 1st Captail Beyond Record ,, of course didn't dawn on me to much latter was Rod Evans singing on it too )
	10:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 1st CaptainBeyond album all the way! Too Proggy for the Metalheads - too Metal for the Proggiez. Delicious.
	10:13pm Robm: These Beatles remakes sound better the originals
	10:13pm Julie: it's so nice they are not carbon copies
	10:14pm MHLee: hello
	10:14pm Julie: hiya MHLee!
	10:14pm Androu B.: So, RRN63, what fortunes and fates do the stars hold for us tonight?
	10:14pm Robm: @Julie i so agree
	10:14pm MHLee: Shoot i missed deep purples help...
	10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Better? I dissent. The Purple was real good. Not the Supremes greatest moment imho. But to cover the Fabs & not be ashamed gets points.
	10:15pm Julie: @Rev this is post Diana Supremes... it's a different animal
	10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Aha.
	10:17pm Robm: @RRN63 i am one of those people who if I don’t hear another Beatles song would be okay with me
	10:17pm Julie: I do enjoy the Beatles. But there are other UK bands too.
	10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& I'm a different animal from that.
	10:18pm Tome: !<>!
	10:18pm Robm: I know it is not a popular thing to say @Julie yes there was
	10:19pm Julie: hating on the Beatles is trendy these days. I love them. They changed everything. But there are other greats from that time also.
	10:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah ok - Beatles as prolific & consistent & most representative even - but I balk if the entire Rawk Revolution of the 1960s isn't recognized. Say ...top of the pyramid maybe - probly even - but not in a vacuum.
	10:20pm Robm: @Julie it is just that i hear the same songs over and over, and just gets old
	10:21pm Julie: Yes! When I play them I try to pick something I know less. I've been surprised how many of their songs I don't know that well.
	10:22pm Robm: @Julie noticed that thanks
	10:22pm Julie: I mean, I am not above playing Love Me Do because I love it but I didn't play them for a long time because I felt they had no surprises left for me. I was wrong.
	10:23pm Robm: But when i hear the rest of the djs at the magic factory play them it’s SSDD
	10:23pm Robm: Okay off my Beatles soapbox
	10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Particularly since holding the 2009 Remasters box in one hand - I see the entire Beatles oeuvre as one body of work. I'm in too deep for any to be especially lesser known personally ...but there's great diversity there. TheBeatles were devoted to both the Twin Gawds of Excellence & Change.
	10:24pm Tome: from Rubber Soul to Revolver is just mindblowing though if you think about it just one example ....
	10:24pm MHLee: Here's one I don't know. Very Sabbath
	10:25pm Julie: I feel like Tractor is one of those Clay Pigeon bands
	10:25pm Robm: @MHLee thought the same thing too
	10:25pm Androu B.: Oh, thanx for the Zappa fix, Julie, since I have yet to listen to Medson's Mother's Day show. (Btw, already have this album in an mp3 archive tucked away in one of my hard drives.)
	10:26pm Julie: I feel honored to give you something new, MHlee
	10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Tome I do think the Peak was in the Middle - pretty naturally - that kind of curve...
	10:26pm Julie: Zappa has always been inaccessible to me. I didn't get it. But so many I know do. So I'm exploring from the beginning.
	10:28pm MHLee: @Julie Freak Out is fun and in a lot of styles... Joe's garage is also approachable... water melon in the easter hay is a great gilmore style guitar solo
	10:29pm David Shortell: I never liked anything of his but "Freak Out" and "The World's Greatest Sinner".
	10:29pm Julie: He goes everywhere, which is probably why I have so much trouble with him but also makes it more likely I'll find something I like
	10:29pm Julie: hi David!
	10:29pm MHLee: I also like we're only in for the money as a savage parody of the hippy ethos... i haven't listened to much more
	10:30pm Julie: yes those are the two I have, that one and freak out
	10:30pm Robm: I have tried to listen to zappa but he is just too strange for me
	10:30pm MHLee: The Sonic's actually covered "Anyway the Wind Goes" as a nice ballad
	10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zappa is so sardonic & cynical - can leave a bitter aftertaste. Sometimes felt like he'd rather be writing for orchestras & was just slumming it with Rawk audiences. Not that I always disagree with his views - in fact he was a super-relevant Voice in the Culture - something like what Jello Biafra became later. & what brings me back to Zappa & the Mothers is - mygawd - the Musicianship ! It got simply incredible. & of course ...a lot of the time he is really freaking funny.
	10:32pm Julie: oh he was a great voice, always like him as a person just had trouble getting into his music.
	10:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah he was off on his own to a real extent.
	10:32pm Robm: @RRN63 i guess frank is an aqquaried taste
	10:33pm Scott67: G'day Androu!🍻😎🤙💨🍺 Sorry mate, I was on phone with Mum.
	10:33pm MHLee: Zappa was highly intellectual, my friend who composes classical music. arranges orchestra, and plays in a metal band is super into him but he has the same classical influences
	10:33pm MHLee: Stravinsky and the atonals
	10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: IQ in the high stratosphere for sure.
	10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 1st album 1966 yes.
	10:34pm MHLee: And a double album
	10:35pm David Shortell: "We're Only in It for the Money" seems inspired by geographical snobbery--i.e., LA versus San Fran. Todd Haynes' documentary indicates that the Velvet Underground hated Zappa and the San Franciscans equally.
	10:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: AndrouB - the Astrological thing I'm thinking of today is it's the 1st day of the 260 day cycle in the MesoAmerican Calendar : www.azteccalendar.com - which is Crocodile. Very Primal & Maternal energy.
	10:38pm MHLee: @Daivd recently read about that feud... they eventually came around... but yeah he hated the Andy Warhol heroin cliche... Lou inducted him into the hall of fame
	10:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'd differentiate between CountryRawk & SouthernRawk ...GramParsons not withstanding...
	10:39pm Androu B.: @RRN63 @10:31 That being said, there's still a chance that another Zappa cult following will emerge in these weird, harsh times we've just found ourselves in.
	10:39pm MHLee: faroutmagazine.co.uk...
	10:40pm Robm: @androu and they will like Donald Trump too
	10:40pm MHLee: @RRabbit there's a really good discussion of the three currents (country rock, southern rock, and west coast county) in the acid archives book
	10:40pm MHLee: Did the stream just take over?
	10:40pm David Shortell: I always saw the Byrds' "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" as the first Flying Burrito Brothers album.
	10:41pm MHLee: I love that album, but I played in a bluegrass band
	10:42pm Julie: oh no
	10:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Seems like robostream alright. MHLee - acid archives book?
	10:43pm Robm: @MHLee did not really notice
	10:43pm MHLee: psychedelic-rocknroll.blogspot.com... a guide to private press, extremely expensive
	10:44pm MHLee: i paid like 50 for it used, but I was trying really hard to identify a song
	10:44pm Julie: hang tight guys not sure what's wrong definitely on my end
	10:45pm Robm: Well goinh to bed got a busy day tomorrow
	10:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx MHLee.
	10:46pm Julie: okay I think i am back...nite Robm
	10:46pm MHLee: william is back
	10:47pm MHLee: a little soft
	10:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Back ! ...@ least on FMU the autostreams are listenable too...
	10:47pm MHLee: maybe i turned down the stream
	10:48pm Androu B.: Yes, can confirm that the rabbit broke into the stream at my end as well. But at least it was playing something appropriately French, following Rich Whig's spotlight on Quebecoise bands earlier.
	10:50pm Androu B.: Speaking of which...
	10:51pm Julie: yeah the robot is louder than my broadcast generally
	10:52pm MHLee: You know, I need to relisten to cohen, I know his 2 albums and death of a ladies man pretty well... and the last album but the rest not really
	10:55pm Dean: Sorry to say I am no fan of Cohen. Like Springsteen, he writes songs that never sound like they needed to have been written.
	10:56pm MHLee: I'm not a springsteen fan
	10:56pm Julie: wow I don't know Ladies Man at all...hiya Dean, I' not sure what that means actually. Too mundane?
	10:56pm MHLee: I'm not from New Jersey, I don't get it
	10:56pm MHLee: This is proto-gothic
	10:57pm Julie: the synth on this is fab
	10:58pm Julie: james newton howard who played with Elton if I remember right
	10:58pm MHLee: @Julie DOALM was scolded by the press as "Leonard Cohen's doo-wap nightmare". Phil Spector held people at gunpoint to produce it. I find it full of extremely catchy earworms with enigmatic lyrics
	10:58pm David Shortell: I'm from New Jersey and I don't get it either, Lee.
	10:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Spector & his guns. Synth reminds me of some KeithEmerson.
	11:00pm Dean: I have to add that even though I don't enjoy Cohen's writing, I like the fact that now and then I get to hear him thanks to y'all. Mundane is one way to put it. Mostly I'm not favorably impressed with his poetry and music. Which isn't to say I'm not at all impressed. I can smell a Cohen tune a mile away. A buddy of mine stayed with us last weekend. He revealed that his favorite live rock album is this Renaissance album! And in fact he referred to "Ashes Are Burning" as an example!
	11:01pm Julie: oh wow...I found this double LP for like $1 at the WFMU record fair!
	11:02pm MHLee: I have a few Rennaisance live albums and one studio album on cd. The live albums are great.
	11:02pm Dean: I caught Renaissance live around this time at the Greek Theater in LA. Jean Luc-Ponty opened. I once owned the album, but sold it. Just a week ago I found it again for two bucks, but I wasn't happy with the condition.
	11:03pm Julie: I saw them live a few years ago, don't know how many of THEM are there, maybe it's just Annie and her backing band now, but they were amazing. I think they're playing this fall at either the beacon or town hall I forget.
	11:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Startled to read so many dismiss Cohen. Think of him as Dylan's strongest contender for the pole position. Couldn't imagine a world without those songs. Basically the opposite opinion. Will note however that Cave observed that everyone interprets Cohen in such a po-faced manner. He's actually very funny.
	11:03pm Dean: I'm thinking my favorite live album is Yessongs or Allman Brothers at Fillmore East. Yeah, I don't like Nick Cave, either. My thing.
	11:04pm David Shortell: I seem to have hocked my Renaissance debut LP with the two Yardbirds on it. Renaissance did not achieve quite the same success as that other group which rose out of the Yardbirds.
	11:04pm Julie: oh yeah there's definitely a droll sense of humor at work there.
	11:05pm Dean: First two Renaissance albums were the Yardbirds offshoot. By the time the first other Renaissance album appeared, there was no direct connection to Yardbirds.
	11:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never needed Springsteen very much myself - but I think the earlier stuff with too many words to be trendy is pretty high quality.
	11:06pm Julie: I know those first two the least. I have them but I'm all about Annie, really
	11:06pm Julie: @Rev i think that is the general FMU position. although I enjoy a couple of his hits, I think he's overrated.
	11:07pm Julie: by the time I heard springsteen he felt like a mellencamp knockoff to me
	11:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: NickCave I think is incredible - but I don't too often want to 'go there' - to that Noir world. Someone can be really good - & just present a World you don't want to emotionally or consciously inhabit.
	11:08pm MHLee: What's Rennasainces first, is it not on an island?
	11:10pm Julie: it's just called Renaissance and no Annie on it, Keith's wife instead
	11:10pm Dean: Saw Johnny Cougar at the Whisky opening for The Jam. A punk wannabe dressed in a trench coat, a complete poseur. He never transcended that image.
	11:10pm Julie: that was not his successful phase
	11:11pm Julie: they wanted to make him Bowie, it didn't work
	11:11pm MHLee: I'm not a huge Cave fan actually, he's the one in the classic group that I avoid... did like his last album though
	11:12pm Dean: Make Cave Bowie, you mean? Not Cougar...?
	11:13pm David Shortell: Jane Relf is Keith's sister.
	11:14pm Julie: no, I mean Cougar...there are some johnny eyeliner pictures... Oh thanks David, I didn't know that!
	11:15pm Julie: he was with bowie's manager early on
	11:16pm Julie: dangerousminds.net...
	11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interview with Jim McCarty, drummer from the yARdiRdS & Renaissance - lots on KeithRelf & how it all went down : thestrangebrew.co.uk...
	11:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Funny ! Mr. MidWest SmallTown Everyman for MTV - a Glamster ! Think he's actually both better & more real now than any previous time. An okay fellow. Just please spare me the Hits.
	11:20pm Julie: theres a guy called Top Topham??
	11:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Gittar in the yARbiRdS before even Clapton.
	11:21pm Dean: Another favorite live album: Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus. Yep, John(ny) Cougar (M...), poseur.
	11:24pm David Shortell: Though "Top" Topham never recorded with the Yardbirds, he made a solo LP I found at a WFMU record fair!
	11:24pm MHLee: My mother loves that little feat album
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Moodys bringing it Live. BBC anyway...
	11:25pm Julie: I was looking at the discogs entry for the top album there's no vocal credit does he sing on it?
	11:26pm MHLee: Oh yeah I meant to say that the Deep Purple version of Help apparently was well liked by paul so they recorded we can work it out (with beethoven in it) on the second album
	11:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never heard Topham ! I'd be curious. Think the story is he left the band cause he was too young & stayed in school !
	11:29pm MHLee: For the fictional character, see Sir Topham Hatt.
	11:29pm Julie: so because he was 15 we got stuck with that other guy
	11:38pm MHLee: Well Sir Topham Hat put me down a rabbithole and now I know some of the Thomas props have been stolen
	11:43pm Julie: ack I always forget about these backing vocals
	11:44pm MHLee: They sounded parodic
	11:45pm Dean: Is this October 1 or January 10? Backing vocalists are on it. You have a problem?
	11:46pm Julie: some guy 50 years later: listen! That's ME
	11:48pm Julie: Dean that's an excellent question. it is october
	11:52pm MHLee: Joe Byrd of the United States of America I assume
	11:53pm Julie: yes!
	11:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh here's an album that's a big gap in my familiarity. Like the next thing after the UnitedStates of America album.
	11:55pm MHLee: I new he went and did out their stuff... he was a professor I recall
	11:55pm MHLee: There's a number of weird forgotten jazz rock things like this
	11:56pm Scott67: Thanks Julie! Take care mate. ✌️😎🤙🌻💜🦜🦜🦜
	11:56pm MHLee: The numbers band comes to mind which I only discovered because of that book
	11:56pm Julie: he made an album of military marches on synth...
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. I say that we stalled out @ the DNC in Chicago 1968. This could be written this week.
	11:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If I ever heard the name 'Insect Trust' - I certainly never knew them.
	12:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Julie ~
	12:01am MHLee: All I recall about insect trust is people like them.
	12:03am MHLee: Would this be called "loner folk"?
	12:04am Androu B.: Thanx so much as always, Julie! A Happy 4th to you and everyone else here! 🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆
	12:05am Julie: thanks everyone!
	12:05am Roberto: Crap, I forgot to banana.
	12:06am Julie: aww sorry Roberto!
	12:06am MHLee: Thanks, Julie!

Eclectical Banana with Julie: Playlist from July 3, 2022

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