I never saw Pharaoh play a show. But I did see him, among others, play at Ornette Coleman's memorial in '15. He played about five minutes and it was...full (that's the adjective).
Yes, I heard Pharoah Sanders live only once, a long time ago when I was still in college. He was great. I must also mention that I heard Sam Rivers live several times and attended many performances at Studio Rivbe. My thought is that you should go ahead with the Sam Rivers profile and do a full PS retrospective nest week. The each deserve a full three hours and more
Studio RivBea! Wow, @WM, that's wonderful. There is perhaps not enough time to do justice to both, ever? Thankfully, Stork has four, possibly five, hours of Sam Rivers coming up today.
Listener Gregory - Sanders' relation to JohnColtrane is apparent that way in less than a second. When trying to describe what Trane is so special - I've stumbled & sputtered that his Tone is just so - Human. Not @ all descriptive - yet if you know you know. (& *what* Coltrane played on top of always that.)
I want to compare it to Van Gogh & Gauguin or something (except Trane was no Van Gogh in personal relations)...
...obvious things like Pharaoh being 14 years younger than Trane - yet both on Tenor & close collaborators. & of course Trane passing away @ merely 40 in 1967, leaving the whole genre feeling the rug pulled out @ the top of the ride as it were - much like Rawk with Hendrix n a very few year. A very great need to fulfill.
Sem - wondering how you've faired thru that.
'Daoud' one version of 'David' - being one myself. Not a little like 'Good' (dude) - which Urban Dictionary says it is pretty much used for...
Yeah - it's busier but doesn't lose the tenderness of the great Ballad ? Obviously there's the album's intent. Sometimes Trane himself did it with kind of an anxious feel. Alan Broadbent did a version I prefer less to this one I think ? Always thot of 'Naima' as like people whispering to each other who laying next to each other - communicating almost not even in verbal speech...
10:01am
Gary via app:
That was terrific Baraka; who was the backup band?
via discogs, @Gary:
Congas – Akbar Bey, Pat Carrow
Congas, Cowbell – Joseph Armstrong
Congas, Percussion [Shakari] – Charles Jones
Vocals – Gwendolyn Guthrie
Jeff, I bought that Coltrane tribute close to its release date, I would guess. I got it primarily to hear what David Murray would do in that context. That was his first playing with McCoy, and they went on to do at least one record together after that. I thought it was a good album... a bit nostalgic, but the time had passed when you had to avoid Coltrane so as not to sound like a mere acolyte. That was an issue that dogged Pharoah's early career.
I like to think of the new jazz listener in 1966, wandering into the record store looking for something to dip into, seeing John Coltrane's Meditations, and perhaps thinking, "Oh, this might be nice," and then this is track A1. Could've been me (had I been alive in '66 and of album-buying age)!
In the 'Chasing Trane' film - a biographer observes he interviewed over 100 people - & not a single one had anything negative to say about Trane's behavior - even when he was addicted & alcoholic. Beyond Miles finding him unreliable & his clothes too rumpled (which I love was a noted stickler for Davis.)
What a masterpiece this is. At the absolute apex of numerous sonic ascents.
10:52am
mic_a:
Hello all. Thanks for the Pharoah tribute, Jeff. That JCOA album... I have two copies of that. The first one, via mail order from NMDS in the late 70s, is a gatefold with a silver foil cover. A few years later, in a record store that was often good for surprising finds, I stumbled on an earlier (original?) edition -- in a box with a thick booklet. Did I levitate upon opening it? Possibly.
Always think of LarryYoung as having jammed with Hendrix. Maybe one day of his life or something. Still with this here - I can well imagine good things...
Thank you so much for curating this tribute....saving me some trouble for when I do the same on my own upcoming program from Mexico city on Thursday night. (I'll give props to ya!)
Also, for more Pharoah tribute, there is one coming on WFMU, on Tuesday at noon ET, Radio BLT filling in for Michele with a Sanders special: wfmu.org...
I don't see a download it that 11:07 site, removed? (At least not on my phone)
11:16am
Andres:
Good morning, Jeff and all. We’ve been making soft boiled eggs and coffee over here. My wife commented on the very relaxing breakfast music. I’m sure she wasn’t being facetious.
@Andres! I'm just trying to hard boil your eggs from a distance. Hi there.
11:20am
bob0b0b Plasticland:
Jimi Hendrix when asked about Sharrock said he never heard him play but Hendrix said"I heard he doesn't play too orderly like somebody else you might know"talkin bout himself lol
I have to say, for a long time I was one of those who didn't want to hear all the sax players who's sound was very strongly Coltrane. I've come around on that (after all, how could you NOT incorporate Trane? Like players earlier had to incorporate Satch and Bird...)
In another online environment, someone I know related the following: "...went to hear Sonny Sharrock at the Koncepts Kultural Gallery. When the band played "Venus/Upper Egypt" Pharoah Sanders came out from backstage, played with them, and left, without anyone saying aword. After Sanders left Sharrock said, several times, "Wasn't that amazing?"
Strangely, one of the first real jazz concerts I attended was Sam Rivers playing in the Famous Ballroom in Baltimore (77 or 78?). I found him a bit abstract, but I was impressed that the audience seemed to really enjoy the concert. That was an unusual venue with a mixed-race audience and good bbq.
Wondering what I have to do to keep Heather Cox Richardson (credit to UM for cluing me btw) up in my faceborg feed algorithm. Craptialism forbid I should get to simply choose...
@Jeff G
Searching my emails, I just found a note I sent you on Dec. 27, 2011 saying...
"Words is trickling out that Mr. Rivers has passed. A friend of mine in Chicago had interviewed him down in Florida over a year ago, and word was then that Rivers was quite ill. Still devastating though. Rivers' personal history is an amazing slice of American history. My friend sent me a synopsis of his interview, which I idiotically tossed. If I get my hands on it again, I'll share."
And, there was blowback in earlier generations when a player sounded too much like his idol (Sonny Stitt had to change to tenor, for instance, Mingus yelling to stop playing Bird...)
Gardening w/ today's show in my ears, the sun shining, the brisk post-Fiona clearing breeze from the west raising whitecaps on the high tide estuary.
Glorious and life-affirming. Thanks, Jeff.
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Andrew in Toronto:
Jeff Golick:
hyde:
Alan R:
fred:
It was a little weird hearing that Pharoah Sanders passed away the day after Coltrane's birthday
Jeff Golick:
He is astral travelling now, @Alan R. Hello.
TDK60:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
Good morning, @TDK60!
Aw yeah, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
Listener Gregory:
listener james from westwood:
Yvang:
WR:
Hi Jeff, Drummer Streamers.
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
Listener Gregory:
Andrew in Toronto:
TDK60:
Andrew in Toronto:
TDK60:
WM:
Jeff Golick:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
I want to compare it to Van Gogh & Gauguin or something (except Trane was no Van Gogh in personal relations)...
hyde:
Gary:
Jeff Golick:
Gary:
duke:
Jeff Golick:
@Gary, ok, geez, here is but a sampling.
hyde:
Jeff Golick:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
chresti:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
rw:
chresti:
Jeff Golick:
rw:
Sem:
May the gods bless Mr. Sanders.
doctorjazz:
Dem:
Jeff Golick:
Greetings, @doctorjazz!
rw:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
'Daoud' one version of 'David' - being one myself. Not a little like 'Good' (dude) - which Urban Dictionary says it is pretty much used for...
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
en.wikipedia.org...
Presuming Alice did not mess around with her invocations.
doctorjazz:
Listener Gregory:
Jeff Golick:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Gary via app:
Jeff Golick:
Congas – Akbar Bey, Pat Carrow
Congas, Cowbell – Joseph Armstrong
Congas, Percussion [Shakari] – Charles Jones
Vocals – Gwendolyn Guthrie
Stork:
Gary via app:
Jeff Golick:
TDK60:
Doug Schulkind:
Listener Gregory:
Stork:
WM:
Jeff Golick:
@WM: Yes, I think the whole record was written my Mantler.
Listener Gregory:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff Golick:
WR:
fred:
Stork:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
- Albert Ayler
Andrew in Toronto:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
I like to think of the new jazz listener in 1966, wandering into the record store looking for something to dip into, seeing John Coltrane's Meditations, and perhaps thinking, "Oh, this might be nice," and then this is track A1. Could've been me (had I been alive in '66 and of album-buying age)!
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Listener Gregory:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
Jeff Golick:
hyde:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Doug Schulkind:
mic_a:
Listener Gregory:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Jeff Golick:
The sax player in the credits of this record is listed as "Mystery Guest," generally believed to be Pharoah.
Jeff Golick:
Doug Schulkind:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
doctorjazz:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
en.wikipedia.org...
alanr:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Sonny Sharrock — electric guitar
Pharoah Sanders — tenor & soprano saxophones
Elvin Jones — drums
Charnett Moffett — acoustic bass
Bill Laswell — producer
- last album complete in Sonny's lifetime apparently.
Jeff Golick:
Hams:
Jeff Golick:
Hams:
Jeff Golick:
Also, for more Pharoah tribute, there is one coming on WFMU, on Tuesday at noon ET, Radio BLT filling in for Michele with a Sanders special: wfmu.org...
doctorjazz:
Jeff Golick:
Listener Gregory:
doctorjazz:
Andres:
Jeff Golick:
doctorjazz:
Jeff Golick:
bob0b0b Plasticland:
Jeff Golick:
alanr:
Andres:
doctorjazz:
doctorjazz:
Jeff Golick:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
doctorjazz:
Uncle Michael:
Listener Gregory:
Jeff Golick:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
doctorjazz:
doctorjazz:
Here's todays
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com...
Stork:
www.wfmu.org...
Bring your joints, and let's get oiled!
doctorjazz:
Doug Schulkind:
From what I hear, that was kind of a typical evening at Koncepts.
Listener Gregory:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Listener Gregory:
Doug Schulkind:
Searching my emails, I just found a note I sent you on Dec. 27, 2011 saying...
"Words is trickling out that Mr. Rivers has passed. A friend of mine in Chicago had interviewed him down in Florida over a year ago, and word was then that Rivers was quite ill. Still devastating though. Rivers' personal history is an amazing slice of American history. My friend sent me a synopsis of his interview, which I idiotically tossed. If I get my hands on it again, I'll share."
Still haven't got my hands on it.
Jeff Golick:
Jeff Golick:
doctorjazz:
doctorjazz:
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com...
Andrew in Toronto:
Thanks Jeff!
doctorjazz:
Sem:
Glorious and life-affirming. Thanks, Jeff.
Jeff Golick:
Yah, @Sem! Here's to affirming life!
doctorjazz:
doctorjazz:
TDK60:
Stork:
listener james from westwood:
hyde:
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
~ TY Always DJ JG ~
Yvang:
doctorjazz:
Andres:
b0b0b0b0b0b0b:
.seen Holland .Sam Rivers B Altchal.also
chresti:
Listener Gregory:
Thanks for a great show, Jeff. Even if it's on a sad occasion, the music was anything but sad.
Doug Schulkind:
Jeff Golick:
@TDK60, I didn't even know it was a city. Thanks!
Bye for now, @listener james, @hyde, @Rev Rabbit, @Yvang, @Andres, @58b0b0b0b0b0b0b, @chresti, @LG, @DS. And thank YOU!
See you at @Stork's place: wfmu.org...
WR:
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