WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 24, 2022

Listener comments!
	6:00pm Rolando: Looking forward to today’s show.
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Show us on the Shaving Fun Ken where Bad Olivia hurt you, Mark. And hello, Mark and the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm DanFA: @Handy, hahaha
	🤖 6:01pm PaulRobeson1922: Warm Greetings one & all!!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicoids.
	🤖 6:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hello Mark and all!!!
	6:02pm DanFA: @Handy, don't mess with Bad Olivia, or she'll cut you.
	6:02pm Franco Twinkie: Hi Mark.
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, I'm honing my lickspittle skills as we speak, DanFA!
	🤖 6:03pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:03pm DanFA: @Handy, on your knees, worm.
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Ha, Escape from Flavortown! There it is Evening, David! A friend's business that might interest you: www.corkandcrown.co.uk...
	🤖 6:05pm chresti: Hi Mark and technoffs!
	🤖 6:06pm PaulRobeson1922: Points, badges, challenges, levels, leaderboards : gamification
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: It's why I always race across any large bun that I see on the ground. www.wfmu.org...
	🤖 6:06pm David (in London): Handles, I can see myself dropping in on Brockley Market soon!
	6:07pm Ciggy: We don’t need no stinking badges
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining this evening!
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Techtonic Friends! Gamification has been going on for decades, really. Even Mark's own Creative Good Forum (which you should all join) is full of badges !
	6:08pm Ike: We used to have badges on our electronic profiles at Large Audiobook Co. but nobody cared that much about them. Just like the stupid badges/medals in Silly Cat Game on my phone. The medals don't even give you any awards or anything.
	🤖 6:08pm Handy Haversack: Fantastic, David! If Chris is there, tell him I sent you!
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: The Badges of course leverage the surveillance that you approved of in that cookie notification.
	6:09pm tim from washington: Hi Mark and everybody! I really enjoyed that last interview with Adrian and thought his previous book was fantastic.
	6:09pm Franco Twinkie: 2020!! That was the beginning of dark times.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @Handy good choice of gif - that was Burger Time, right?
	🤖 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: E.G. This is your fifth interaction! I now dub you "experienced h4x0r"
	🤖 6:10pm Handy Haversack: Right, Mark -- it's what Matt uses on his playlist page. Also: did the book arrive this time?
	🤖 6:10pm Folsom: I remember when I used waze, they gamified that by having badges on offering traffic reports, speed traps, etc.
	🤖 6:10pm Handy Haversack: WFMU pledging is gamified, too, of course. Collect them all!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: @Handy no book yet but folks here have an eye out for it during mail pickup...
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @Franco glad to see your robot icon - thanks for your support!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: Very weird -- it would have gone out from Manhattan this time so really should have arrived. I might have to drop one off!
	🤖 6:11pm PaulRobeson1922: Young men can be made to do anything with a pat on the back & a “good job johnny” from an authority
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: My sister was a proto-game designer in the 1980's. If I remember, it sounded like a totally whack job.
	🤖 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and tech warriors!
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP welcome
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: Your welcome Mark. I couldn't stand NOT having a robot face.
	6:15pm MarciB: Never played any video games so I can't speak to how fun they can be. But the whole "gamification" thing seems kinda infantilizing to me. But my idea of gaming is backgammon so what do I know!
	6:15pm Sam: Walking is fine if the zombies are slow
	6:16pm Sam: You’re right Marci B. Adults should not be playing video games, except as a rare novelty thing.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: My idea of gaming is trying to knock beer bottles off the fence with a tennis ball.
	6:18pm MarciB: @Sam- and I mean the analog game- just got a great vintage tournament set! But yes the video game industry seems focused on controlling adults -esp men.
	🤖 6:20pm PaulRobeson1922: The Moving Image is like the Golden Calf
	6:21pm Tome: !<>!ZorK!<>!
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: There are dishonest, toxic books, too, of course. Even TTRPGs have wildly different amounts of corporate groupthink vs. real creativity.
	6:22pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Mark. Reading a book is quickly becoming an uncommon as cheap gasoline.
	6:22pm yippie: when I was a kid i used to play a videogame called drugwars
	🤖 6:22pm Folsom: I figured Custer's Revenge would be high on Mark's list
	🤖 6:23pm Webhamster Henry: My son writes games, but they are not games you actually win, it's more like the game engine is used for storytelling.
	🤖 6:25pm PaulRobeson1922: Some games are just fun to play & every minute is a brand new day @Franco
	6:25pm yippie: I think wishbringer was cooler than zork
	6:25pm Franco Twinkie: If you're reading a book at a cafe, you might as well have your pants on backwards.
	6:26pm Rolando: Who has time to play a game fire two hours? Ain’t nobody got time for that!
	6:26pm Tome: it's all about Ultaviolence now but if "your ""Kid:""" sees any kind of innocent nudity we cover their eyes
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Franco, you should see me reading a book while bent over a candle at a bar while I wait for someone to show up. It confusilates people.
	6:27pm Sam: If I buy one more 24 pack of Wrigley’s gum I’ll reach CVS Extra Care Platinum status!
	🤖 6:27pm Deano de los Muertos: Great show so far, Mark
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @Deano thanks
	6:28pm ?: From 85 - 89 I serviced coin op video games (arcade games they were called). Most were quite fun. As for home video systems, never bothered. It would've been like a busman's holiday for me.
	6:28pm Franco Twinkie: Handy, I use a candle to find my seat at a large music venue.
	6:30pm Sam: Politics has almost completely become a game.
	🤖 6:31pm Deano de los Muertos: Definitely easy for me to get lost in Elden Ring or a real-time strategy game for too long
	🤖 6:31pm PaulRobeson1922: Look @Mexico over the last 100 years
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: Those social media platforms' engagement numbers are close to meaningless because they are measuring an ephemeral emotion that lasts seconds.
	6:31pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all .. must run !!!!
	6:31pm Mark Hurst: @morphe' thanks for joining
	6:32pm DanFA: Growing up, Mortal Kombat taught me everything I needed to know about geopolitics. FLAWLESS VICTORY!
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: FINISH HIM
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: ALL OF YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO THE OLIGARCHY.
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: Gauntlet taught me plenty about the rapaciousness of capitalism. Add 25 cents to continue?
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Wizard needs food... badly
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Somebody shot the food!
	6:34pm misfit: UnearthU
	6:34pm yippie: I played a lot of those infocom games and I drew maps
	6:34pm DanFA: @Mark, have you ever watched the Black Mirror episode USS Callister? I think it's up your alley with its representation of tech bros.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: @yippie my favorite was Hitchhiker's Guide
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @DanFA indeed, that was a great episode
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Valkyrie is about to die.
	🤖 6:36pm Folsom: Coin detected in pocket!
	6:37pm Sam: I love when they laud online gambling for all the billions it brings in. Where do you think that money comes from? It’s so predatory!
	6:37pm Rolando: Loved marks interview way back about slot machine design
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: "Linguo dead?!" "Linguo is dead ..."
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: @DanFA the game developers in FREE GUY are occasionally accurate, but mostly not. The most accurate depiction of Game programmers was in WAR GAMES though. For the time, that is.
	🤖 6:39pm Analog Nights: Use Mango Languages program. Available through many libraries including Brooklyn. Free.
	6:39pm Sam: Once you know basic grammar, watch movies and TV in the foreign language with subtitles. You learn a ton, and you’ll pronounce it right.
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @Analog thanks, good pointer - hadn't heard of Mango Languages before. Does it use gamification?
	6:40pm DanFA: @Webhamster Henry, and then Matthew Broderick's character grew up to work for the NSA, then became a whistleblower.
	🤖 6:40pm chresti: WFMU is like a game in some ways
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: The Black Mirror ep. "Fifteen Million Merits" might have more to say about gamification and the use cases for it that surveillance capitalism has found.
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: @Handy Black Mirror's "Nosedive" is kind of like that too.
	6:43pm DanFA: Can someone make a WFMU version of ann 8-bit video game like the original Donkey Kong game?
	🤖 6:43pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, a different point on the possible curve, WHHenry.
	6:43pm Old Dave: @chresti- you said it. I was afraid to. Thanks!
	6:46pm Jeff Moore: "We get emails from people all the time, and they LOVE heroin!"
	6:46pm Sam: “To hear the exciting conclusion of Techtonic…. plunk one more quarter into your radio or computer.”
	🤖 6:46pm PaulRobeson1922: @Chresti: Every minute is a brand new day And there are some games that I'd just love to play! Even bad scenes are for real, there's no time to cry. WFMU is the Radio Station that Gives and Gives and goes on
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: Like gambling addiction- if I keep playing the slot machines, I'll win (but not actually recoup what is lost)
	🤖 6:47pm Analog Nights: @mark not gamified
	🤖 6:47pm chresti: WFMU is a GOOD game!
	6:47pm Rolando: I reckon we’re interviewing a Gemini, a nice kind hearted chap, ripped and torn between two very separate worlds.
	6:47pm DanFA: @Chresti, like that Twilight Zone episode The Fever
	6:48pm DanFA: You have reached the end of the episode. Congratulations! 500 points.
	🤖 6:48pm chresti: Ha Jeff Moore!
	6:49pm dale: this music is like from the show expo '69.
	🤖 6:49pm PaulRobeson1922: Yes! 500 points! now I can Glisten to Hurry On Sundown all night!
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: DanFA, right!
	6:49pm DanFA: @Chresti, FRANKLIN.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Would Green Stamps from the supermarket be an early form of gamification?
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Adrian!
	🤖 6:50pm chresti: Are there PROG video games?
	🤖 6:50pm Deano de los Muertos: The greatest radio station in the world.
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Maybe Dragon's Lair, chresti? Arcade games on laser disk seem pretty prog to me.
	🤖 6:51pm chresti: Fredericks, yes I think so!
	6:53pm Franco Twinkie: Yesterday I found a hard cover book without a dust jacket with a sticker on the cover - $1.00. I'm going to read it without googling the author. No blurbs, no incisive reviews - nothing. I'll tell you about it next week.
	6:53pm Sam: WFMU - the first show’s free. Then you’re hooked.
	6:53pm Ciggy: Is the fundraiser a gameification
	🤖 6:53pm Deano de los Muertos: Anyone remember when Ken is supposed to be doing the “state of the station”?
	🤖 6:53pm PaulRobeson1922: 7 minutes
	6:53pm DanFA: 8pm
	🤖 6:53pm Deano de los Muertos: Oh lol thanks
	6:54pm yippie: Leather Goddesses of Phobos
	🤖 6:54pm DjLorraine: 8 pm?
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: 8 PM Eastern, Deano. After the PROG.
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1922: 67 minutes
	6:55pm DanFA: C'mon!!! Give e'em your stupid money
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: I played that one, yippie. Leisure suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards, too. Many thanks, Mark! And this distinction of WFMU as gift and community is crucial. This is why we pledge.
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: 10 BUCKS!
	6:56pm Old Dave: Up from the Depths Sachs book was a superb read, Mark. Thanks for doing your show, I get great inspiration here.
	6:56pm MarciB: Hey the little FMU icons are worth it - and this is the sort of gamification I can get behind.
	6:57pm wind: 🙏🏽 I believe in you and the message that you preach!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: PREACH Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark.
	6:57pm Blobs: Thank you, Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark and Adrian!!!
	6:59pm DanFA: This should be your new outro music
	7:00pm Ciggy: So nice you played it twice
	7:00pm Fredericks: Anybody else hear a little Sex Pistols in this internet song?
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good chat tonight.
	7:01pm DanFA: @Fredericks, yes but better
	🤖 7:01pm chresti: Maybe WFMU could have a tv show too!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 24, 2022

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October 24, 2022: Adrian Hon, author, "You've Been Played"

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Artist	Track	Approx. start time
Adrian Hon, discusses gamification in his new book, "You've Been Played."
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"	0:00:34 (Pop-up)
	Interview with Adrian Hon "Interview with Adrian Hon"	0:05:06 (Pop-up)
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Pink Tiles	The Internet "The Internet" by "Pink Tiles"	0:54:54 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm Rolando: Looking forward to today’s show.
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Show us on the Shaving Fun Ken where Bad Olivia hurt you, Mark. And hello, Mark and the Techyon Drives!
	6:01pm DanFA: @Handy, hahaha
	🤖 6:01pm PaulRobeson1922: Warm Greetings one & all!!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonicoids.
	🤖 6:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hello Mark and all!!!
	6:02pm DanFA: @Handy, don't mess with Bad Olivia, or she'll cut you.
	6:02pm Franco Twinkie: Hi Mark.
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, I'm honing my lickspittle skills as we speak, DanFA!
	🤖 6:03pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:03pm DanFA: @Handy, on your knees, worm.
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Ha, Escape from Flavortown! There it is Evening, David! A friend's business that might interest you: www.corkandcrown.co.uk...
	🤖 6:05pm chresti: Hi Mark and technoffs!
	🤖 6:06pm PaulRobeson1922: Points, badges, challenges, levels, leaderboards : gamification
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: It's why I always race across any large bun that I see on the ground. www.wfmu.org...
	🤖 6:06pm David (in London): Handles, I can see myself dropping in on Brockley Market soon!
	6:07pm Ciggy: We don’t need no stinking badges
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: Hi all, thanks for joining this evening!
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Techtonic Friends! Gamification has been going on for decades, really. Even Mark's own Creative Good Forum (which you should all join) is full of badges !
	6:08pm Ike: We used to have badges on our electronic profiles at Large Audiobook Co. but nobody cared that much about them. Just like the stupid badges/medals in Silly Cat Game on my phone. The medals don't even give you any awards or anything.
	🤖 6:08pm Handy Haversack: Fantastic, David! If Chris is there, tell him I sent you!
	🤖 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: The Badges of course leverage the surveillance that you approved of in that cookie notification.
	6:09pm tim from washington: Hi Mark and everybody! I really enjoyed that last interview with Adrian and thought his previous book was fantastic.
	6:09pm Franco Twinkie: 2020!! That was the beginning of dark times.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: @Handy good choice of gif - that was Burger Time, right?
	🤖 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: E.G. This is your fifth interaction! I now dub you "experienced h4x0r"
	🤖 6:10pm Handy Haversack: Right, Mark -- it's what Matt uses on his playlist page. Also: did the book arrive this time?
	🤖 6:10pm Folsom: I remember when I used waze, they gamified that by having badges on offering traffic reports, speed traps, etc.
	🤖 6:10pm Handy Haversack: WFMU pledging is gamified, too, of course. Collect them all!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: @Handy no book yet but folks here have an eye out for it during mail pickup...
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: @Franco glad to see your robot icon - thanks for your support!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: Very weird -- it would have gone out from Manhattan this time so really should have arrived. I might have to drop one off!
	🤖 6:11pm PaulRobeson1922: Young men can be made to do anything with a pat on the back & a “good job johnny” from an authority
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: My sister was a proto-game designer in the 1980's. If I remember, it sounded like a totally whack job.
	🤖 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and tech warriors!
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: @KfHP welcome
	6:14pm Franco Twinkie: Your welcome Mark. I couldn't stand NOT having a robot face.
	6:15pm MarciB: Never played any video games so I can't speak to how fun they can be. But the whole "gamification" thing seems kinda infantilizing to me. But my idea of gaming is backgammon so what do I know!
	6:15pm Sam: Walking is fine if the zombies are slow
	6:16pm Sam: You’re right Marci B. Adults should not be playing video games, except as a rare novelty thing.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: My idea of gaming is trying to knock beer bottles off the fence with a tennis ball.
	6:18pm MarciB: @Sam- and I mean the analog game- just got a great vintage tournament set! But yes the video game industry seems focused on controlling adults -esp men.
	🤖 6:20pm PaulRobeson1922: The Moving Image is like the Golden Calf
	6:21pm Tome: !<>!ZorK!<>!
	🤖 6:21pm Handy Haversack: There are dishonest, toxic books, too, of course. Even TTRPGs have wildly different amounts of corporate groupthink vs. real creativity.
	6:22pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Mark. Reading a book is quickly becoming an uncommon as cheap gasoline.
	6:22pm yippie: when I was a kid i used to play a videogame called drugwars
	🤖 6:22pm Folsom: I figured Custer's Revenge would be high on Mark's list
	🤖 6:23pm Webhamster Henry: My son writes games, but they are not games you actually win, it's more like the game engine is used for storytelling.
	🤖 6:25pm PaulRobeson1922: Some games are just fun to play & every minute is a brand new day @Franco
	6:25pm yippie: I think wishbringer was cooler than zork
	6:25pm Franco Twinkie: If you're reading a book at a cafe, you might as well have your pants on backwards.
	6:26pm Rolando: Who has time to play a game fire two hours? Ain’t nobody got time for that!
	6:26pm Tome: it's all about Ultaviolence now but if "your ""Kid:""" sees any kind of innocent nudity we cover their eyes
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Franco, you should see me reading a book while bent over a candle at a bar while I wait for someone to show up. It confusilates people.
	6:27pm Sam: If I buy one more 24 pack of Wrigley’s gum I’ll reach CVS Extra Care Platinum status!
	🤖 6:27pm Deano de los Muertos: Great show so far, Mark
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: @Deano thanks
	6:28pm ?: From 85 - 89 I serviced coin op video games (arcade games they were called). Most were quite fun. As for home video systems, never bothered. It would've been like a busman's holiday for me.
	6:28pm Franco Twinkie: Handy, I use a candle to find my seat at a large music venue.
	6:30pm Sam: Politics has almost completely become a game.
	🤖 6:31pm Deano de los Muertos: Definitely easy for me to get lost in Elden Ring or a real-time strategy game for too long
	🤖 6:31pm PaulRobeson1922: Look @Mexico over the last 100 years
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: Those social media platforms' engagement numbers are close to meaningless because they are measuring an ephemeral emotion that lasts seconds.
	6:31pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all .. must run !!!!
	6:31pm Mark Hurst: @morphe' thanks for joining
	6:32pm DanFA: Growing up, Mortal Kombat taught me everything I needed to know about geopolitics. FLAWLESS VICTORY!
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: FINISH HIM
	🤖 6:33pm Webhamster Henry: ALL OF YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO THE OLIGARCHY.
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: Gauntlet taught me plenty about the rapaciousness of capitalism. Add 25 cents to continue?
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Wizard needs food... badly
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: Somebody shot the food!
	6:34pm misfit: UnearthU
	6:34pm yippie: I played a lot of those infocom games and I drew maps
	6:34pm DanFA: @Mark, have you ever watched the Black Mirror episode USS Callister? I think it's up your alley with its representation of tech bros.
	6:34pm Mark Hurst: @yippie my favorite was Hitchhiker's Guide
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @DanFA indeed, that was a great episode
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Valkyrie is about to die.
	🤖 6:36pm Folsom: Coin detected in pocket!
	6:37pm Sam: I love when they laud online gambling for all the billions it brings in. Where do you think that money comes from? It’s so predatory!
	6:37pm Rolando: Loved marks interview way back about slot machine design
	🤖 6:38pm Handy Haversack: "Linguo dead?!" "Linguo is dead ..."
	🤖 6:38pm Webhamster Henry: @DanFA the game developers in FREE GUY are occasionally accurate, but mostly not. The most accurate depiction of Game programmers was in WAR GAMES though. For the time, that is.
	🤖 6:39pm Analog Nights: Use Mango Languages program. Available through many libraries including Brooklyn. Free.
	6:39pm Sam: Once you know basic grammar, watch movies and TV in the foreign language with subtitles. You learn a ton, and you’ll pronounce it right.
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @Analog thanks, good pointer - hadn't heard of Mango Languages before. Does it use gamification?
	6:40pm DanFA: @Webhamster Henry, and then Matthew Broderick's character grew up to work for the NSA, then became a whistleblower.
	🤖 6:40pm chresti: WFMU is like a game in some ways
	🤖 6:40pm Handy Haversack: The Black Mirror ep. "Fifteen Million Merits" might have more to say about gamification and the use cases for it that surveillance capitalism has found.
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: @Handy Black Mirror's "Nosedive" is kind of like that too.
	6:43pm DanFA: Can someone make a WFMU version of ann 8-bit video game like the original Donkey Kong game?
	🤖 6:43pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, a different point on the possible curve, WHHenry.
	6:43pm Old Dave: @chresti- you said it. I was afraid to. Thanks!
	6:46pm Jeff Moore: "We get emails from people all the time, and they LOVE heroin!"
	6:46pm Sam: “To hear the exciting conclusion of Techtonic…. plunk one more quarter into your radio or computer.”
	🤖 6:46pm PaulRobeson1922: @Chresti: Every minute is a brand new day And there are some games that I'd just love to play! Even bad scenes are for real, there's no time to cry. WFMU is the Radio Station that Gives and Gives and goes on
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: Like gambling addiction- if I keep playing the slot machines, I'll win (but not actually recoup what is lost)
	🤖 6:47pm Analog Nights: @mark not gamified
	🤖 6:47pm chresti: WFMU is a GOOD game!
	6:47pm Rolando: I reckon we’re interviewing a Gemini, a nice kind hearted chap, ripped and torn between two very separate worlds.
	6:47pm DanFA: @Chresti, like that Twilight Zone episode The Fever
	6:48pm DanFA: You have reached the end of the episode. Congratulations! 500 points.
	🤖 6:48pm chresti: Ha Jeff Moore!
	6:49pm dale: this music is like from the show expo '69.
	🤖 6:49pm PaulRobeson1922: Yes! 500 points! now I can Glisten to Hurry On Sundown all night!
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: DanFA, right!
	6:49pm DanFA: @Chresti, FRANKLIN.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Would Green Stamps from the supermarket be an early form of gamification?
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Adrian!
	🤖 6:50pm chresti: Are there PROG video games?
	🤖 6:50pm Deano de los Muertos: The greatest radio station in the world.
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Maybe Dragon's Lair, chresti? Arcade games on laser disk seem pretty prog to me.
	🤖 6:51pm chresti: Fredericks, yes I think so!
	6:53pm Franco Twinkie: Yesterday I found a hard cover book without a dust jacket with a sticker on the cover - $1.00. I'm going to read it without googling the author. No blurbs, no incisive reviews - nothing. I'll tell you about it next week.
	6:53pm Sam: WFMU - the first show’s free. Then you’re hooked.
	6:53pm Ciggy: Is the fundraiser a gameification
	🤖 6:53pm Deano de los Muertos: Anyone remember when Ken is supposed to be doing the “state of the station”?
	🤖 6:53pm PaulRobeson1922: 7 minutes
	6:53pm DanFA: 8pm
	🤖 6:53pm Deano de los Muertos: Oh lol thanks
	6:54pm yippie: Leather Goddesses of Phobos
	🤖 6:54pm DjLorraine: 8 pm?
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: 8 PM Eastern, Deano. After the PROG.
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1922: 67 minutes
	6:55pm DanFA: C'mon!!! Give e'em your stupid money
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: I played that one, yippie. Leisure suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards, too. Many thanks, Mark! And this distinction of WFMU as gift and community is crucial. This is why we pledge.
	🤖 6:55pm chresti: 10 BUCKS!
	6:56pm Old Dave: Up from the Depths Sachs book was a superb read, Mark. Thanks for doing your show, I get great inspiration here.
	6:56pm MarciB: Hey the little FMU icons are worth it - and this is the sort of gamification I can get behind.
	6:57pm wind: 🙏🏽 I believe in you and the message that you preach!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: PREACH Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark.
	6:57pm Blobs: Thank you, Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark and Adrian!!!
	6:59pm DanFA: This should be your new outro music
	7:00pm Ciggy: So nice you played it twice
	7:00pm Fredericks: Anybody else hear a little Sex Pistols in this internet song?
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good chat tonight.
	7:01pm DanFA: @Fredericks, yes but better
	🤖 7:01pm chresti: Maybe WFMU could have a tv show too!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 24, 2022

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