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Favoriting March 5, 2023: Wayne Shorter, RIP.

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The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Favoriting Congliptious  Nessa  1968   
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Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 

The Perfect Man   Favoriting

My Brother The Wind, Vol. I 

Saturn Research 

1970 

 

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Wayne Shorter Quartet  Prometheus Unbound   Favoriting Emanon  Blue Note  2013   
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Wayne Shorter Quartet  Adventures Aboard the Golden Mean   Favoriting 2016.12.01 - Monte Carlo  [boot]  2016   
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Wayne Shorter, Terri Lyne Carrington, Esperanza Spalding, Leo Genovese  Midnight in Carlotta's Hair   Favoriting Live at the Detroit Jazz Festivavl  Candid  2017   
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Wayne Shorter Quartet  Zero Gravity to the 10th Power   Favoriting Without a Net  Blue Note  2013   
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Wayne Shorter  Orbits   Favoriting Alegría  Verve  2003   
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Wayne Shorter  Valse Triste   Favoriting Footprints Live!  Verve  2002   
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Music behind DJ:
Kirk Lightsey & Harold Danko 

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Wayne Shorter featuring Milton Nascimento  Diana   Favoriting Native Dancer  Columbia  1975   
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Wayne Shorter  Moto Grosso Feio   Favoriting Moto Grosso Feio  Blue Note  1970/1974   
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Wayne Shorter  Joy   Favoriting Odyssey of Iska  Blue Note  1971   
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Wayne Shorter  Dindi   Favoriting Super Nova  Blue Note  1969   
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Wayne Shorter  Miyako   Favoriting Schizophrenia  Blue Note  1969   
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Music behind DJ:
Kirk Lightsey & Harold Danko 

Iris   Favoriting

 

 

 

 

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Miles Davis  Sanctuary   Favoriting Bitches Brew  Columbia  1969   
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Miles Davis  Masqualero   Favoriting Live in Europe 1967 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 1  Columbia  1967/2011  November 2, 1967, Copenhagen 
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Miles Davis  Nefertiti (session reel)   Favoriting Freedom Jazz Dance: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 5  Columbia  1967/2016   
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Miles Davis  All Blues   Favoriting The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965, December 23, fourth set  Columbia  1965   
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Music behind DJ:
Kirk Lightsey & Harold Danko 

Dance Cadaverous   Favoriting

 

 

 

 

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Wayne Shorter  Footprints   Favoriting Adam's Apple  Blue Note  1966   
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Wayne Shorter  Infant Eyes   Favoriting Speak No Evil  Blue Note  1964   
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Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers  Gee Baby, Ain't I Good to You   Favoriting Art Blakey!!!!! Jazz Messengers!!!!!  Impulse!  1961   
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Dudu Pukwana & Spear 

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Caroline 

1975 

 

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Listener comments!

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Uncle Michael:

Morning!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
Jeff Golick:

Well we know you can get up this early. Good morning! And thank you!
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hyde:

hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Jeff Golick:

Hey, @hyde!
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Brian in UK:

Hello Jeff. Wayne Shorter seemed to be a timeless fella.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Uncle Michael:

This is hour-three of my day. I can only take so much night.
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doctorjazz:

Hello Outies!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am
Jeff Golick:

@Brian in UK, hello, and agreed.
G'morning, @doctorjazz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05am
Uncle Michael:

My pleasure!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
Uncle Michael:

WFMU fundraising: all of the gelt...none of the guilt. Take that, NPR.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
listener james from westwood:

Morning, Jeff and all!
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TDK60:

Good morning, Jeff.
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Stork:

It's Wayne-ing in my heart, but I'm here! Hello OO-Trays!!
  9:09am
Listener Gregory:

Morning, all.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:10am
DJpeterDE:

Re: describing his sound, I’ve always remembered a review (Francis Davis maybe?) of Conrad Silvert presents live at the opera: saying the album was uneven but a good place to hear what was then a rare commodity, Wayne’s “inky and enveloping tenor.”
But I’ve never heard a good description of his soprano sound
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
Jeff Golick:

Aloha, @listner james from westwood!
Good morn, @TDK60!
At least the days aren't getting shorter, @Stork. Hiya!
Wassup, @Listener Gregory!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
StringOFperils:

Good morning, Jeff. Good morning everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am
Jeff Golick:

Inky! That is good. Hey, @DJpeterDE!
Welcome, @StringOFperils!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16am
Jeff Golick:

Whoops, I thought I grabbed the full orchestra version of this, but got the quartet instead. I'm not sorry.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:16am
DJpeterDE:

Re: soprano, I do remember a young Branford Marsalis (who absolutely developed a distinct approach to soprano before he achieved one on tenor) saying that he emulated Steve Lacy’s tone but Wayne’s concept. And that is of course how you integrate your influences. But OTOH I remember thinking “can you do that? Isn’t Wayne’s sound indivisible from his concept?”
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:17am
DJpeterDE:

↳ Jeff Golick @9:16
I’m also not sorry as I was going to roll with the chamber orchestra version on my Tuesday show
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:18am
WR:

↳ Song: "Prometheus Unbound" by "Wayne Shorter Quartet"
This Emanon album is my top priority of Wayne Shorter recordings that I missed and want to hear.

Won't be around more than this few minutes. Work emergency and have to go to office I've not been to for over a year.
Avatar 🥁 9:18am
Listener Gregory:

Shorter's later quartet is the logical continuation of Miles's quintet. Miles's own electrification project meant he didn't continue on that path, and Shorter himself went in other directions after leaving it. But both groups were really some of the best and most adventurous groups in jazz. In my humble opinion!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am
Jeff Golick:

↳ DJpeterDE @9:16
Yeah, probably so (concept+sound), but that was perhaps just how Brandford was able to communicate his synthesis in terms we could understand...
Avatar 🥁 9:19am
Listener Gregory:

↳ WR @9:18
The office? What IS that?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:20am
DJpeterDE:

Taking a pill: if you bought Emanon, did you shell out for the edition with comic book? I did
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
Jeff Golick:

↳ WR @9:18
@WR, thanks for stopping by and sorry to hear re work! Emanon comes with a comic book!
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DJpeterDE:

↳ DJpeterDE @9:20
Poll!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Listener Gregory @9:18
I agree with this opinion!
Avatar 🥁 9:26am
Listener Gregory:

Now we will find out whether, as so many of you have questioned, I can fry an egg while listening to the radio. Bets must be placed before the first egg is cracked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am
adamdoesit:

Good morning, Jeff G and excursionists.
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hyde:

↳ Listener Gregory @9:26
i'm shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment
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DJpeterDE:

I was privileged to see the quartet twice a few months apart in 2004. The first time with Bob Hurst subbing, who I prefer to Patitucci in other contexts, but he was in over his head and the band never took flight. Then with JP back in: they launched! One of the highlights of my concert going life!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31am
Jeff Golick:

@adamdoesit! Thank you for taking such fine care of the Drummer stream during your year of adopted parenthood. I don't know how you managed it so that we each got the same amount of ice cream, but know it was appreciated.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:31am
DJpeterDE:

On another topic: following up on our coffee convo, I read a paper that said I roasted beans have carcinogens in them so that the roasting process removes them and so dark roast is better than light (in that respect)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31am
Jeff Golick:

↳ DJpeterDE @9:29
Never saw the quartet. My D:O partner Jeff J. saw the group twice, I believe, and just raved about it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am
Sem:

Good morning, Jeff, D:O-ers, gamblers, bramblers, scramblers, scribblers, dribblers, drabblers, porters, reporters, torters, and Shorters.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am
Jeff Golick:

How do you do, @Sem!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:35am
DJpeterDE:

Wayne deserves more credit for his whistling
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Listener Gregory:

↳ hyde @9:27
Indeed. Should I deliver your winnings to the car?
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adamdoesit:

↳ Jeff Golick @9:31
It was easy, Jeff: I just provided a gallon per day per DJ. It was much easier than pulling together a tribute to a giant who's gone to join the ancestors. Thank you for doing that, for Wayne and for us all.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:36am
doctorjazz:

I got to see the quartet, think it was 2015, at NJ Performing Arts Center, at a woefully underattended performance. I took MsJazz; that was a tactical error. I thought I was hearing a rebirth of the 60's Blue Note Shorter sound-it clearly wasn't that (it wasn't dissonant, which is what led me to believe MsJazz would enjoy it). What it was waw very abstract-melodies are there, but buried in a constant motion, shifting textures, they require a lot of close listening. Even when Shorter played a melody from 60s record, you had to know it, and then dig it out to recognize what he was playing. In short, I dug it, MsJazz, not so much...
Avatar 🥁 9:37am
hyde:

i confess i only saw Wayne Shorter live with Weather Report
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Andrew in Toronto:

Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:39am
doctorjazz:

↳ hyde @9:37
I wish I had seen him with Weather Report...
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ hyde @9:37
Hi hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39am
Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @Andrew in Toronto!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:39am
Doug Schulkind:

So happy to be here enjoying this (not unlike every other Sunday morning). I had been hoping you would do this particular program, Jeff. Somehow, the music always sounds better and more meaningful when you play it.
  9:40am
mic_a:

Hello Jeff and outer circles. Present, on and off.
  9:40am
Dave M:

Love this piece.
  9:41am
Dave M:

("Zero Gravity")
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doctorjazz:

↳ DJpeterDE @9:20
I have the Comic Book Vinyl version as well (which came with a digital download, I believe, which I actually started listening to the day before Shorter passed away, not knowing anything, just interested in it as I hadn't gotten to it all that much...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Jeff Golick:

↳ Doug Schulkind @9:39
That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me, Doug.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Jeff Golick:

@mic_a, let's get orbiting!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:42am
doctorjazz:

Oh, and Happy Erev Marathon!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Jeff Golick:

Izzat DJ Dave M? Greetings, good sir!
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hyde:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:39
hi AiT!
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ doctorjazz @9:42
Hi doc!
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doctorjazz:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:44
Hello Andrew!
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Sem @9:32
Hiya Sem!
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adamdoesit:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:38
Good morning, AiT.
  9:49am
Dave M:

Yup. Loving the show, Jeff.
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Sem:

AiT: good morning from sunny Nova Scotia.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:52am
doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Valse Triste" by "Wayne Shorter"
As we go backwards in time, the music does see (to me) to get less dense, a bit more accompaniment/melody and less texture, abstraction of melody. Though you can hear him going in the directions of the 2000+ quartets here at the start of the 2000's
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:53am
Brian in UK:

↳ doctorjazz @9:39
doc only ever saw him with WR.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am
Jeff Golick:

↳ Dave M @9:49
Aw nice! Can't wait for your marathon shows, Dave. One hour? With prizes? High difficulty quotient!
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Listener Gregory:

↳ doctorjazz @9:52
But if you KEEP on going back... to the live shows with the Miles quintet, you arrive again at the concerts that are very allusive, with soloists going out onto the tiniest twig of a limb. You can almost hear the audience thinking, "Wait, is this still My Funny Valentine??"
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adamdoesit:

↳ Song: "Valse Triste" by "Wayne Shorter"
Little bit of "I Found a New Baby" in there.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz ~
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Andrew in Toronto:

Here`s a link to Wayne`s book:

www.amazon.com...
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doctorjazz:

↳ Listener Gregory @9:55
True dat, though the density of improv seemed different with the Miles group. I'd sorta describe it (hard to find words) as the Miles groups sort of exploding-everything shooting out, getting diffuse in a way. The 2k Shorter groups seem to implode- getting denser rather than more airy. (of course this is very imprecise...)
  10:00am
Dave M:

Jeff: A one-hour Marathon show is hard to do! I've MC'd them but never hosted one myself. Counting on the legendary generosity of the FMU listenership.
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chresti:

Hi Jeff and de outters! Making coffee..
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doctorjazz:

www.nytimes.com...

www.nytimes.com...

A couple of NY Times articles on Shorter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am
Jeff Golick:

@chresti! I should do that, too...welcome!
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Jeff Golick:

@RevRab! Good Sunday!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Remember the earliest impression & first thing one heard was how much he evoked Coltrane ...with Miles saying - Wayne's a great Writer - just you wait everyone will catch up to that. Long since not a whisper of that anymore !
Avatar 🥁 10:07am
Listener Gregory:

↳ Song: "Diana" by "Wayne Shorter featuring Milton Nascime...
Does anyone know what that sound effect is in this song? Where his saxophone suddenly shimmers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07am
Jeff Golick:

↳ doctorjazz @10:03
Thanks for the links, doc.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:08am
doctorjazz:

Drinkin' my coffee, sittin' in my chair, listenin' on my headphones, waitin' on my sleepin' family, catchin' up on office work, feelin' pretty good, happy to be here with the D.O. fam!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:11am
doctorjazz:

Y'know, Shorter's soprano tone is quite different here than on the 2000+ recordings. It has more bite later, thinner, edgier,
I suspect some of it is age/breath (don't throw things at me...)
Not much vibrato either time period (like Steve Lacy, I suppose)...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:13am
doctorjazz:

I like the clicky-star option (is it new? Never noticed it before), where you can see who clicky-starred a particular tune. I saw that RRN63 had done it for one that I clicky-starred, before he even posted on the board.
Hey RRN63!
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TDK60:

I just tried an online translation of Moto Grosso Feio from Portuguese to English and got: Ugly Thick Bike.
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Listener Gregory:

↳ Song: "Moto Grosso Feio" by "Wayne Shorter"
I don't know this album at all. Native Dancer is my favorite Shorter record. I used to play it late at night before going to sleep.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:18am
Doug Schulkind:

Jeff, my favorite of the umpteen Jazz Messenger configurations was also the one that featured Shorter up front with Lee Morgan. With Bobby Timmons throwing those churchy chords around. Such profound beauty.
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ TDK60 @10:16
Hi TDK60!
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doctorjazz:

Love all of the above, if I'm pulling out Shorter albums, most likely to go for Juju and/or Speak No Evil (boring, I know...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
Jeff Golick:

↳ TDK60 @10:16
Hmmm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am
Jeff Golick:

↳ Listener Gregory @10:17
Moto Grosso Feio and Odyssey of Iska, both bizarrely hard to find -- recall searching for those during the blog era of the mid-to-late aughts.
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TDK60:

Hi Andrew.
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Listener Gregory:

The CES convention apparently has introduced two different refrigerators that have speakers in them, so that you can stream music while making ice cubes. I guess that's progress?
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hyde:

@doc but those are both soooooo good
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ chresti @10:01
Hiya crestikins!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ doctorjazz @10:13
I am the clickyslut of all time. It says more probly if I *don't* clicky☆ something. Rather than using them as bookmarks for, say, something I'm gonna buy (no income, not happening) & look into later - I relate to it as interaction - like fb Likes or the closest we have to applause. & just gives me the illusion of doing one thing more than passively taking it all in like a functionless squalling infant forever @ Mother's musical breast... On Sundays here - which of these heroically accomplished & relevant Artists should not meet with my admiration & approval ?? Why - surely each & every one...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am
adamdoesit:

↳ Listener Gregory @10:22
That opens up new culinary possibilities. Cover and marinate for two hours at medium tempo…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am
Jeff Golick:

↳ Listener Gregory @10:22
The fascination with "smart" devices, and now AI-aided...everything?...is something I don't get and only adds to my grumpy old man bona fides.
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hyde:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:26
i'm using ChatGPT to create my comments now! saves me so much time
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27am
adamdoesit:

↳ doctorjazz @10:11
doc, I'd clicky-star your notes on Shorter if I could; they're the fruit of sustained and careful listening.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:28am
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Listener Gregory @10:22
Pretty sure a massive iPad type screen on every fridge will be the norm inside three years tops. Who doesn't want HiDef displays of 1,000s killed in Earthquakes & Proxy Wars & Donald Drumpf's face every hour when reaching for that leftover snack @ all hours ?? ...I suppose one could have a slideshow of kid's art still...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29am
Jeff Golick:

One of the fun things about the clicky stars (not new, btw, doc, just low profile_ is seeing a song come up that you starred a while back. Like a note from your past self.
  10:30am
mic_a:

Okay, I guess my book report is due. I finished Olga Tokarczuk's "The Books Of Jacob" a couple of weeks ago (took a couple of months). Very good, very worth the journey. Though -- and I think this is a good thing -- she does leave it up to you to work out what you've gotten from it afterwards. I suppose I would just note quickly that although there's a lot of journeying within it, it is no simple-minded 'hero's journey' (and Jacob is certainly no hero, more like crazy cult leader), but a collective narrative with constant movement between many characters, least of all Jacob -- who is mostly a cipher seen through other's eyes. Otherwise... it certainly rubbishes notions of nationalist purity, with borders and leaders constantly shifting; and people and languages in constant flux (and so Tokarczuk gets death threats from the Polish right). There's a lot more to consider (history as non-linear process, the power of extended families, etc), but I'll leave that to you someday, maybe.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30am
Jeff Golick:

↳ hyde @10:27
We are now the machines.
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hyde:

↳ mic_a @10:30
i gotta get on that one
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Joy" by "Wayne Shorter"
Went to my record rack, I do have a French Reissue LP of Iska (which is under-listened by moi, judging by the track just played), don't have Moto Grosso Feio, will have to search it out...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:32am
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Dindi" by "Wayne Shorter"
A couple weeks after Woodstock - similar tumultuous celebratory energy ?? Can I say ? Read Maria Booker was intimidated by these luminaries - & that's why she weeps here. The band rising in appreciation afterwards ...I'm always moved.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32am
Jeff Golick:

↳ mic_a @10:30
Thanks for this, @mic_a! And congrats on finishing. It does sound amazing. And I think it's out in paperback. Quickly approaching the one book in/one book out situation here at home, though. Read the Mick Herron spy novel Slow Horses on recent flights to/from Colorado. Good stuff. Perhaps not Nobel-worthy, but good travel reading.
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TDK60:

I'm a grouch too, Jeff. Many human beings walk around with their "smart" gizmos expecting me to jump out of their way on the sidewalk. I shouted at one the other day, that they were about to run into me, but of course the human couldn't hear me with their "earbuds" on.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:33am
doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Dindi" by "Wayne Shorter"
This has a samba feel...
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Stork:

Loving every pick here !
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DJpeterDE:

↳ Doug Schulkind @9:39
To Doug's point: I have all these records. There's no reason I should be listening, except that context changes the way we listen. Thanks, Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am
Jeff Golick:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:32
I read elsewhere it was because she was going through a rough patch with husband (and guitarist on this date) Walter Booker -- they split up a week after this recording.
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DJpeterDE:

Turn up the volume and hear her break down at the end of her vocal. Extraordinary.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:34
Hm. Both maybe. Never not affected by it.
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adamdoesit:

↳ Jeff Golick @10:26
Yesterday I read that New Yorker article on AI-enabled psychotherapy. Happily, it wasn't fanfic, but I found it infuriating anyway. Why is it easy to throw billions at replacing humans with machines, but unimaginable to train lots more therapists, establish nationwide licensing reciprocity, and force insurers to make it affordable?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:38am
doctorjazz:

↳ DJpeterDE @10:33
What DJpeterDE (and Doug) said, the curating of the tracks is great!
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Stork:

↳ DJpeterDE @10:34
I played this on air a while back and thought I'd heard her choke up, but thought i must be imagining it. nope.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Dindi" by "Wayne Shorter"
Here's the samba again
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Stork:

↳ Song: "Miyako" by "Wayne Shorter"
Wie schöööön!!!
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doctorjazz:

↳ adamdoesit @10:37
I suppose it has to do with corporate profits versus patient care. Removing the human element of care/service seems to always be more cost effective overall...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ doctorjazz @10:40
en.wikipedia.org...
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doctorjazz:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:41
Scary stuff...
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adamdoesit:

↳ doctorjazz @10:40
Priorities, I guess.
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doctorjazz:

Just ordered a copy of Moto Grosso Feio on Discogs...
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Dean:

I have no need for a "smart" device. To the contrary, I would find carrying one around a burden far exceeding any benefits it might occasion. And I, too, am sick of all the hype about AI, as I was in the '80s about all of the silly chatter about Minsky et al., but then I was sick in the '80s and '90s of all the hype about the Internet, the WWW, and so forth. It's the hype, not the technology, that irritates me. For a counter-example, see this NYT story about the use of AI for improved diagnosis of breast cancer: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/technology/artificial-intelligence-breast-cancer-detection.html

Of course capitalism is driving these sorts of innovations, and that's an issue to be dealt with. But on balance it seems to me that technology like this is a good thing. ChatGPT, etc., are another story, as they have no immediately obvious narrow application by which we can measure their utility.
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doctorjazz:

↳ doctorjazz @10:52
If actual patient care was the main goal of US Health Care, we wouldn't have the fractures, spotty system we have...
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DJpeterDE:

Will have to go back to the bookshelf to refresh my memory on this track: basically, was it Teo or Miles who basically just said "let's take two takes one after the other and splice em"
PS I did really like the 33-1/3 edition on Bitches Brew.
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Uncle Michael:

US health care: An intermediary between providers and patients for the express purpose of extracting cash from misery on behalf of shareholders. Monetize everything. Monetize suffering and desperation.
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Listener Gregory:

The problem with the streaming refrigerators and the like is that tech is just added on top of the product, as if people need a refrigerator with speakers, a washing machine with WiFi, a watch that can give therapy, etc.
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Uncle Michael:

I want an app to play me Otis Redding's "You Left the Water Running", when I have.
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mic_a:

I got the UK paperback last year:

https://fitzcarraldoeditions.com/books/the-books-of-jacob

I can imagine the faux stickers and badges and blurbs the US edition will have splattered all over the cover.

Following up on the Pynchon thread a little while back, here's a rather good appreciation of "Gravity's Rainbow" on its 50th anniversary:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/history-is-hard-to-decode-on-50-years-of-thomas-pynchons-gravitys-rainbow/
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

A screen showing what's in the fridge without opening it might be welcome.
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chresti:

↳ Dean @10:52
I welcome any innovations in breast cancer screening that doesn't involve clamps and/or vice grips!
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doctorjazz:

↳ DJpeterDE @10:53
There was Columbia 1998 4 CD box set, with the complete unedited recordings as well as the final product, haven't listened to it in quite a while, but found it really interesting when it came out.
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mic_a:

@Rabbit -- a window would do that.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Uncle Michael @10:58
Srsly ?? ...if the Artificial is so gawdamm Intelligent - why can't we have nice things awlready...
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spodiodi:

good morning, Jeff!
OUTies ☀️
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doctorjazz:

↳ Uncle Michael @10:58
I've set up the YouTube video for Slim Harpo's Baby, Scratch My Back, to be played whenever MsJazz requests the same (but I'd love it automated...)
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Jeff Golick:

↳ chresti @10:59
What, you want healthcare designed with you in mind? Hilarious.
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Jeff Golick:

@spodiodi!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ mic_a @11:00
...?! Yeah, maybe. Why don't we have them then ? ...We don't *wanna* see what's mouldering in there ?? ...much less if our leftovers are twerking on TicToc...
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mic_a:

The romance of mystery...
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mic_a:

That wonderful moment of, "ooh, let's see what we've got in here" as you open the door.
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mic_a:

Please, no inventory on a screen (phoning home to a corporate server).
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...but I can see being in the supermarket & being able to look into the fridge & cupboard ...which - yeah - means Lunch will be Hacked of course - since even the inside of yer fridge won't be private...
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Jeff Golick:

One of the funny (?) things about the chatbot AI stuff is how it turns out the bot is as lazy as any human, making up references and citations to make their (demonstrably false) claims.
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Andrew in Toronto:

↳ spodiodi @11:01
Hiya spodi!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Surveillance Salad...
Like they say AI Art does lousy Hands cause it samples too many lousy Artists who can't do Hands...
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Uncle Michael:

↳ mic_a @11:05
We call that "is there anything good on?"
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chresti:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:07
A "smart refrigerator" tsking you if you don't have fresh vegetables
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adamdoesit:

↳ mic_a @10:58
Thanks for the link. Gravity's Rainbow is such a dusty little historical curiosity. What could a novel about race, sex, empire, music, mathematical certainty, and fascists and their rockets have to say to the reader of today??
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Grey Goo for Dinner...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ adamdoesit @11:09
I've toted the same mass market ed of Gravity's Rainbow around with me for decades, apartment to apartment. Still haven't made it through.
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chresti:

↳ chresti @11:09
or wagging a mechanical finger at you
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adamdoesit:

I'll buy into smart fridges when they automagically cycle edible leftovers to the front, and compost the science experiments that I'm too, uh, intellectually curious to throw away.
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Dean:

I wish I could find that article in New Yorker, Atlantic, Mother Jones, or some such from the '90s in which the author mocks all the hoopla about computing power on a singing birthday card being as much as what was powering the Apollo moon missions. It was hilarious, and exactly correct.
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:10
I think I have the same edition Timothy Leary had: www.reddit.com...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Song: "Nefertiti (session reel)" by "Miles Davis"
Listen for a convo between the band and Teo about five minutes into this one...
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adamdoesit:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:10
I made reading it a summer project a couple three years ago. Very pleasurable and worth it. Tough going at first, but stay with it, let the words carry you, and you'll find yourself able to grok it. There's a great and freaky jazz episode tucked away inside…
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Uncle Michael:

Technology: "Believe it if you need it. If you don't just pass it on."
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doctorjazz:

↳ Uncle Michael @11:20
😊
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Nefertiti (session reel)" by "Miles Davis"
Very cool!!!
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DJpeterDE:

↳ doctorjazz @10:59
yeah of course! I was thinking I'd have to go to that collection, and the Chambers bio, and the Troupe "autobio," and the 33-1/3, and then i got exhausted and thought "maybe i'll just comment here and someone will save me the trouble"
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DJpeterDE:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:07
It's when the chatbot starting saying
"you don't love your wife you love me" that I shifted from "okay this isn't funny anymore"
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DJpeterDE:

Also the guy who taught ChatGPT that 2+2=5
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Listener Gregory:

I reread Gravity's Rainbow last year and really enjoyed it.
Also, this Plugged Nickel box set is what I was referring to earlier—a high point in music.
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Jeff Golick:

Wayne enters slowly here, but goes places.
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adamdoesit:

Apropos of… something to do with technology, my wife replaced her 20 year old clock radio, which was making weird popping sounds (speaker cutting in and out unbidden). I thought I'd open it up and DeOxIt before setting it out on the stoop. Five screws, and it came apart to reveal a board scattered with microswitches, all linked by clever plastic fingers to the familar dial-and-button interface on the outside.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Jeff Golick @11:28
He goes quite out...
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Jeff Golick:

↳ adamdoesit @11:31
That is cool! I used to love taking apart dead or near-dead electronics to see what's up. So much harder to do that now...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "All Blues" by "Miles Davis"
The Coltrane spirit coming thru strong just then ...which was always more than okay from where I sit... I won't even ask which band was in front just then. It's a stupid question...
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DJpeterDE:

↳ adamdoesit @11:31
the new Fisher Price phonograph is completed faked too
twitter.com...
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adamdoesit:

↳ DJpeterDE @11:34
That is so weird. I had a Fisher Price record player once upon a time. A kid could look at the thing, and begin to undrstand how it worked…
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "All Blues" by "Miles Davis"
This tune sounded so different all the different times Miles played/recorded it.
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hyde:

so the Shorter tribute needs to be longer?
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Listener Gregory:

Shorter's second greatest composition is Lester Left Town.
@Hyde: Ha!
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StringOFperils:

↳ hyde @11:40
A longer Shorter life would have been preferable.
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Footprints" by "Wayne Shorter"
Has a bit more "swing" in the rhythm than the Miles version.
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DJpeterDE:

↳ adamdoesit @11:38
it's terrible. maybe even worse than the "get a soundform of your dead grandma's voice tattooed on your arm"
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Footprints" by "Wayne Shorter"
Think there was a quick nod to A Love Supreme in there...
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Andrew in Toronto:

That was a lovely tribute !
Thanks Jeff!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ hyde @11:40
Haha yes. I guess so.
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DJpeterDE:

↳ Song: "Footprints" by "Wayne Shorter"
I have a recording of my post-college trio and the pianist spontaneously goes into this tune and you can hear me say "oh no," didn't like the tempo or the fact that I had to hold down the bassline. Had only heard this version then, didn't have the Miles record.
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doctorjazz:

Almost the end, huh (went by SOOOOO quickly)? Great Tribute!! Looking forward to part 2.
Thanks Jeff!
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Listener Gregory:

There's a good 13 minutes left, so this is NOT the end!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ adamdoesit @11:38
This is so so so stupid. (But a great thread.)
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @11:43
My pleasure, Andrew!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ DJpeterDE @11:44
hahaha. Some of the tempos of that Miles group took on the classic book -- insane.
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Stork:

Saving the biggee for the last! What a schweet shew, Jeff! Thank you!
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Yvang:

Hi Jeff. Beautiful tribute, indeed!
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adamdoesit:

Agreed, beautiful tribute, Jeff G. I have to admit, I haven't put in the time listening to Wayne the way many of you have. I see that I have a lot to look forward to. Thank you for the primer.
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Stork:

and now for something completely Mark E -
www.wfmu.org...
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doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Infant Eyes" by "Wayne Shorter"
That;s so beautiful!
(getting in some Blakey, cool!
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Doug Schulkind:

Loved every minute of it, Jeff.
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Uncle Michael:

Thanks for the Shorter. I wish it was longer.
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spodiodi:

Thanks Jeff!
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Jeff Golick:

↳ Yvang @11:52
Hey, @Yvang! Glad you were here!
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hyde:

awesome show, thanks!
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mic_a:

Thanks Jeff! Best wishes, all. Stay away from the Artificial Idiots, kids -- they'll steal your underwear and sell it to the higest bidder.
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Listener Gregory:

↳ Song: "Gee Baby, Ain't I Good to You" by "Art Blakey & t...
You are good to us, Jeff. Thanks!
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Yvang:

↳ Uncle Michael @11:56
I repressed the urge to say exactly this
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Uncle Michael:

↳ Yvang @11:58
WHY?!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
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listener james from westwood:

Thanks kindly, Wayne and Jeff!
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Yvang:

↳ Uncle Michael @11:59
My brain is producing puns all the time...
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Jeff Golick:

Praise Wayne! Thanks one and all!
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chresti:

Thanks Jeff!
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StringOFperils:

Thanks Jeff!
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TDK60:

Thanks, Jeff.
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