WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from July 20, 2023

Listener comments!
	9:01am Dances with Moomins: Hi Trouble and Modernists of the world
	9:01am Yetz: Somebody's knockin' on the door Somebody's ringin' the bell
	9:01am Andrea C: Hello :)
	9:02am rx scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	9:02am bradford: Good Morning Trouble & all!
	9:03am Robm: morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:04am love2laf: Good morning Trouble, looking forward to the music and the mic breaks. Always illuminating. Hello fellow modernists, and pixie for Handy, K8, NGH, Krys O, and rx scabin.
	9:06am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all! Happy Moon Day! I was less than a month old today in 1969. My dad held wee me up to see the moment of the moon landing.
	9:06am Trouble: good morning earthlings! i forgot all about my fave historical space landing moment, o dear...
	9:06am Yetz: ↳ Song: "ladies and gentleman we are floating in space" by... Are you trying to make me weep this morning, Trouble? Because if you are, it's working. This one gets me every time!
	9:06am Ironside: Good Morning Trouble and Moderns! Hope everyone's having a great morning so far!
	9:06am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:04 morning love2laf lotta pixie today for our fellow chatter’s, its well deserved
	9:06am Malcolm: Good morning
	9:08am βrian: Buenas! It's sunny and temperate on the isthmus today.
	9:08am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:06 Good morning to you Robm, hoping you have no need for pixie but sending to you regardless. Hope the air is better by you today, and you're free to go outside.
	9:09am rx scabin: @Yetz occasional weeping is good for you.
	9:09am rx scabin: @love2laf good morning.
	9:09am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:08 thanks love it’s 92 AQ here and if it gets higher staying inside @Yets howdy
	9:10am Strandlund: I'm ready to get into Trouble!!
	9:10am βrian: ↳ Song: "half asleep" by "Helen Money/Will Thomas" This is luffly!
	9:11am Robm: ↳ Yetz @9:06 between handy and krys o it’s been that kind of morning unfortunately
	9:11am love2laf: ↳ rx scabin @9:09 How is the writing going for your mom's obit? And how is your daughter doing? As my sister would say, hoping today brings medium times.
	9:13am rx scabin: Local (to rx scabin) Bird News: the hummingbirds are in the bee balm and there are three Merlins in the neighborhood, a female, an older male, and a young male. The younger male keeps "trying to beat the older one's time" with the female; bird drama ensues.
	9:14am βrian: I see no Handy here.
	9:15am HyperDose: This is so delightfully spooky
	9:16am Robm: ↳ βrian @9:14 brian check out the accu for clays show
	9:17am rx scabin: @love2laf my daughter is OK. She has a security camera now and is waiting for court dates. Patience is a super power. The obituary is done but for a final read through for flow. Both siblings approved. I was smart/lucky enough to send a rough draft. My brother said, "Looks good, needs a little polishing." It was more back and forth with my sister
	9:19am βrian: ↳ Robm @9:16 Ach, the beloved Bagpipe!
	9:19am love2laf: ↳ rx scabin @9:17 I'm glad for your daughter that she's taking these steps, and you're so right, patience is a super power. Kind of you to have the back and forth with your sister, it's part of her grieving process, and you did a good thing there.
	9:21am TDK60: ↳ Song: "tonnow" by "gwenno" Good morning, Trouble. Glad to be in time for Gwenno's Cornish. Or is it Welsh?
	9:21am Robm: ↳ βrian @9:19 i think it happened late yesterday
	9:22am love2laf: In very sad bird news, my phoebes will not be successful in raising young ones this year. The pine marten put an end to their parenting. Both phoebes are still in the area, and I am hopeful they will be more successful next year.
	9:23am βrian: I mentioned here, about a year ago, that our furry orange man had been diagnosed with a tumor. Amazingly, he's still around and doing well, thanks to regular meds and potassium. He spends at least an hour or two in the garden every day, dreamily nestled in the oregano.
	9:23am Webhamster Henry: Excellent Thursday Music here, Trouble!
	9:24am Mike W and Dusty: My low-rent version of clicky-starring is just taking a photo of my phone screen, and g.d. it to h., Trouble, i have so many screen caps taken these three hours every week
	9:25am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Song: "as it is" by "liz durette" Summer of Soup! Good morning.
	9:27am love2laf: ↳ βrian @9:23 Glad to hear he's doing well, and I love the dreaming in the oregano part of his day.
	9:34am Bethany in deBary, FL: Glitertastic LP day on Bastille day?????? How am I not in the tristate area anymore!
	9:35am Robm: i thought that was done during matts show on tuesday?
	9:35am Bethany in deBary, FL: We heard ittttt
	9:35am Karl: I am alerted via MP3 stream
	9:35am bradford: loud & clear Trouble!
	9:36am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:35 And I feel like it was on another show as well, and we have been alerted 3 times in total this week.
	9:37am Zinn The Mood: Hello Trouble and T-Makers. Got to sleep in today. Sitting at the kitchen table with the daily chicory and espresso coffee and smoothie (mango, banana, peanut butter and flax with almond milk). Son has a book on Civil War asking me questions. Have made it policy in our home that we don’t have play guns or glorify warfare, etc. So I’m trying to navigate this the best way. Steering to conversation toward the great John Brown and the atrocities of slavery that he sought to selflessly sacrifice himself for. Ironically my latest book is “The Haitian Revolution and the Early United States.” Like the Cuban Revolution we purposefully are told very little or nothing about these successful Caribbean uprisings. Question everything, folks. I tell my kids this often.
	9:37am Amber: The truth is out there
	9:37am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:36 too much of a good thing?????
	9:38am Robm: ↳ Amber @9:37 cuing the xfiles amber:)
	9:39am Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "malaak" by "fatima al qadiri" "Medieval Femme" is such a great title.
	9:40am Mike W and Dusty: I’m sure we’ll be somewhat grateful to have the EBS if the day comes that, i dunno, the aliens attack or something, but the directives will probably be very helpful along the lines of, “Move to a safe space immediately”
	9:41am pot8o: good morning troublemakers!
	9:41am Amber: ↳ Robm @9:38 Haha ;)
	9:41am Robm: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @9:40 or kiss your ass goodbye
	9:43am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @9:40 We got a Tornado Warning at about 4:50 AM the other day in Ulster County... a warning, not a watch! ... but it wasn't even particularly windy here. The classic EBS warning failure is that it didn't go off on 9/11.
	9:44am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:43 I got that, too (Dutchess County). It was merely cloudy at the time.
	9:44am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "the simple story" by "jane birkin with feist" Watched Agnes Varda's "Jane B by Agnes V" on Sunday night-- really cool film, and essential for any fan of Birkin.
	9:44am Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "the simple story" by "jane birkin with feist" Paix à son âme.
	9:46am Slaboch: Wow! Never heard Guilherme Coutinho before, this sounds fantastic! Reminds me of that Frankie Reyes Boleros album on Stones Throw. Hope you are doing well!
	9:49am Amber: This music makes me wanna dance like Snoopy :3
	9:49am Trouble: hey michael! this is the only long playing record he made, cult classic re-issued by mr bongo. he died in the early 80's, young
	9:57am Son Of Pantz: If only Chairface had finished carving his name on the Moon, it would be worth looking at.
	9:58am Listening Out There: Good program t’day…
	9:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "way up" by "jamila woods" Loving this cut. The singer has a great instrument!
	9:59am HyperDose: Erasure in America is alive and well
	10:01am Bethany in deBary, FL: Trouble, I appreciate you keeping us updated and framing these issues
	10:01am Sean: Edward Blum
	10:03am Robm: ↳ Bethany in deBary, FL @10:01 @Bethany i second that, and the other djs are pretty good at it too
	10:06am jan: Birkin bags- costly fetishes these days!
	10:07am Amber: ↳ Bethany in deBary, FL @10:01 I third that, thank you Trouble and everyone at WFMU for speaking up about these things <3
	10:07am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:03 Thirded. Trouble has a knack for framing it in such a matter of fact way. Gives me hope that there is a voice of reason in this mad world.
	10:09am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:07 one of the very few L2L
	10:09am Trouble: thanks@sean: i didn't mention his name b/c it's my little way of not giving precedence to the enemy by naming him
	10:10am Amber: ↳ love2laf @10:07 Hey, I was third first lol jk :)
	10:10am Trouble: thanks all! i am an educator so this ruling has crushed me. I teach mostly students of color, who are often first generation college attendees.
	10:11am love2laf: ↳ Amber @10:10 I know, I owe you a pepsi now right? :)
	10:11am chresti: Hi Trouble and troubled!
	10:12am Amber: ↳ love2laf @10:11 Haha don't worry about it :) we can both be third!
	10:14am dougseidel: Thanks for this show always!
	10:15am chris in the redwoods: hi, Trouble, chresti, everyone!
	10:20am Jane B fan: This is a genius chord progression
	10:20am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "jane b" by "jane birkin serge gainsbourg" very sensual 😍
	10:20am Roberto: ↳ Song: "jane b" by "jane birkin serge gainsbourg" Avec une contribution de Frederic Chopin
	10:21am Amber: ↳ Trouble @10:10 I can't even imagine how heartbreaking that must be. We'll continue to fight the good fight and hopefully get some of these awful changes reversed <3
	10:21am coco: nice choice of songs . Lovely tribute
	10:22am Yetz: birkinstock.shoes - sandals made from destroyed Birkin bags (sold out immediately)
	10:24am Marie in Queens: I'll never grow tired of this song. Hey Trouble, hey all!
	10:24am iiibeat: RFK Jr. testifying before Congress on censorship this morning . .
	10:25am Zinn The Mood: (in middle of laundry here, hanging clothes on roof…) Just finished an academic book on James Baldwin’s writings about the “criminal power” of the American justice, law enforcement and corrections sectors, and how extends to housing, schooling, etc. Basically, as white folks so totally removed from the stark and unavoidable realities of Institutional Racism, it is near impossible to have the requisite empathy necessary to reverse 4 centuries of sadistic dehumanization. Reading history reveals it’s been a common thread throughout that white people are conditioned to feeling indignant about losing their supremacy, real or imagined. Just read about the Negro Seaman’s Act, which was the frightened response of S Carolina in the 1830’s to the Denmark Vescey revolt and its alleged ties to the Haitian Rev, making it legal to imprison black British freedman sailors, just because. American history goes on and on like this. Not surprised by the Catholic fascists on the SCOTUS. They’ve each lived lives of privilege and exceptional separateness under which they’ve not ever had the visceral feeling of the degradation of institutional racism in all of its psychological and material dimensions. Rejoice though. It couldn’t be more clear, in these and many other ways, that the end of the American Empire is close at hand. There will be a brighter day. But is must get darker just before the Dawn.
	10:26am love2laf: ↳ Trouble @10:10 I am grateful your students have you to clearly discuss these issues. That's worth a lot to them, and to all of us waiting for these horrible rulings to be reversed.
	10:26am chris in the redwoods: ↳ Song: "Je T'aime Moi Non Plus avec serge gainsbourg" by ... the line about her body being without issue always gets me. such a groovy tune
	10:28am βrian: Gomez Addams is going nuts.
	10:30am Amber: ↳ βrian @10:28 Lol XD
	10:30am The Oscar: I don't think I grasped what a big deal Jane and Serge were in France until I went to Paris-- their pictures are everywhere!
	10:32am βrian: ↳ The Oscar @10:30 Bigger than Jerry Lewis and Mickey Rourke?
	10:34am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	10:36am Zinn The Mood: Good discussion yesterday between two great black scholars/authors about the whitewashing and erasure of black history, and the affirmative action decision and its history. www.youtube.com...
	10:36am love2laf: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" I always imagine Dave Gahan listening to Trouble every week, and when trouble plays a Depeche Mode song, I smile even bigger picturing his joy in hearing her play his music.
	10:36am Spikey BXL: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" think the title is favourite stranger - but that's a detail, lovely track
	10:37am Dance the Blues: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" Get a room!
	10:48am katharsis: Hellos trouble and modernists
	10:48am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... here come the waterworks. an instant American classic 😭
	10:49am Dances with Moomins: ain't it the truth
	10:49am chris in the redwoods: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... hahaha love this
	10:49am love2laf: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... Oh this is choice!
	10:49am chresti: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... woo-hooo!
	10:49am Zinn The Mood: “Well, if one really wishes to know how justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class. One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law's protection most! — and listens to their testimony. Ask any Mexican, any Puerto Rican, any black man, any poor person — ask the wretched how they fare in the halls of justice, and then you will know, not whether or not the country is just, but whether or not it has any love for justice, or any concept of it. It is certain, in any case, that ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.” James Baldwin, “No Name in the Street” (1972)
	10:50am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... Figured this one had to be a Mark Hurst special!! Love it!
	10:51am bluecharlie: Not, 'Google Maps!' 🤣
	10:57am Trouble: check this out if you are not a fan of plastic destroying the earth: www.breakfreefromplastic.org...
	11:02am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Trouble @10:57 in re: plastics, look up Judith Enck: www.beyondplastics.org...
	11:04am LizGig: Hi Trouble! The children's comedian Olaf Felafel has just published a great picture book about plastic. It's called Blobfish. Blobfish tries to make a friend, meets a plastic bag, has a great time dancing, and then gets trapped in the bag. Also contains knock knock jokes. I don't know if it has been released in the US, but if you need a picture book, look out for it. It's the best young kid's book I've seen on plastic. No preaching, no po-face.
	11:07am Trouble: thanks @ lizgig: will look for it!
	11:10am jan: Destroyed Birkin bags?! How does that happen? Better that the Birkenstock factory obtained scrap leather from the manufacture of Birken bags from the Hermes factory than destroying finished objects to make more overpriced talismans.
	11:11am Erella: You are so right. People think that "recycling" removes plastic from the planet somehow. Every bit of plastic we've ever interacted with, every princess phone and calculator is still somewhere on the planet. I found that very sobering.
	11:11am Trouble: @ jan : my mistake, perhaps it is from the off cuts from the process of making the bags, what would normally be destroyed.
	11:13am Zinn The Mood: ↳ LizGig @11:04 Thanks for this; will look at the library! Just driving in car with kids having good conversation about it all, spurred by Trouble’s advocacy. Thanks T!
	11:17am jan: @Trouble, nah- the link says "BIRKENSTOCKS MADE FROM DESTROYED BIRKIN BAGS"
	11:18am northguineahills: ok, back from the interview....
	11:19am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 how did it go?
	11:19am Jason from Houston: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 Heyyyyyy... Good? Get in okay?
	11:19am Trouble: hmmm, @ jan, that does sound weird: why would they destroy an expensive bag that has a mad waiting list?
	11:19am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 How did your interviews go from yesterday and today? Still spreading pixie madly about for you!
	11:21am jan: @Trouble, and there's a video showing a worker unboxing what appears to be a perfect Alligator or other reptile skin bag, and proceeding to cut it apart. Here's a link to an upcoming Birkin Bag auction I looked at yesterday after reading about Birkin's demise:https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/fashion/handbag/hermes/birkin?page=3
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:19 yesterday went fine, i'm not sure if i answered the questions fully adequately, but I acquitted my rather well, although i felt comfortable w/ those interviewers. today, i believe they thought I was overqualified. then there was the issue that my foot started itching so bad, that I had to take my shoe off (w/ my other foot) and scratch it(again, w/ my foot) while answering questions, as the itching was too distracting (tmi?). But, I sort bombed them w/ info and data.
	11:23am Trouble: @ jan: ok that's sick
	11:23am jan: @Trouble- Why? Because they could transfer talismanic values to an ordinary thing.
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:19 and thanks, i could stand to drown in pixie...
	11:25am Trouble: @jan: the waste in the production of the bag is then tripled in that it is cut up to become a shoe. it's ridiculous, to me.
	11:25am rx scabin: @northguineahills hoping you get the job you want.
	11:25am northguineahills: ↳ Jason from Houston @11:19 it was tricky, and awkward, but I managed (the security guard was friendly, which helped). on the way out, i couldn't get a signal on my phone to order an Lyft, so I had to go way out in the parking lot just to order the car. that driver had no problem following my instructions to get through the gate and actually pick me up in the garage.
	11:25am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:23 Oh how distracting to have such a foot itch! Sounds like you acquitted yourself well in both cases, and you did good. I will keep the pixie going, and await to hear great news from you soon :)
	11:28am northguineahills: ↳ rx scabin @11:25 when, I got (scheduled) the interview for nyc parks, the day before the ConEd one, and I realized that NYC Parks is what I'd prefer to as opposed to a for-profit utility company.... today's job was more of a GIS technician (rather than an analyst or developer) for a public utility (yes, that actually still exists in FL)
	11:31am Mike W and Dusty: There was a lot of talk about our companion animals earlier, as there is pretty much every week — les oiseaux at the least — and I was reminded of this line in a recent book review: “The smoother argument made [here] is that conforming to nature is sanity, whereas conforming to humanity is idiocy. To be in constant grief due to the cruelty of man is not misanthropy, it’s pure logic.”
	11:31am Mike W and Dusty: Listeners, I bought the book.
	11:32am jan: @Trouble- If you have some time to waste, read this "manifesto" copied from the link you posted: MANIFESTO ADDITIONAL STEPS INCREASE RETAIL VALUE THEREFORE: MAKE LUXURY OBJECTS OUT OF OTHER COMPLETE OBJECTS THE PROCESS OF COMMODITY PRODUCTION: AT EVERY STEP A SET OF COMPONENT RESOURCES GOES IN AND A SLIGHTLY MORE WORKED OR ASSEMBLED PRODUCT COMES OUT. ORE IS MINED, SMELTED, CAST INTO STEEL; STEEL AND PLASTIC MEET STAMP AND MOLD TO PRODUCE A RAZOR; A RAZOR GETS PUT IN A PASTEL BOX AND BECOMES A LIFESTYLE SUBSCRIPTION PRODUCT™! AND THERE'S A CONSTANT DRIVE TO EXTEND THESE PROCESSES: IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'VE LEARNED FROM SUBSCRIPTION BUNDLING IT'S THAT ONE MORE STEP IN THE PRODUCTION CHAIN EQUALS ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO UPSELL. LUXURY PRODUCTS USE VALUABLE MATERIALS. MATERIALS DERIVE VALUE FROM THEIR PLACE IN HISTORY AND CULTURE. HISTORICALLY WE MAKE LUXURY OBJECTS OUT OF INHERENTLY VALUABLE MATERIALS. GOLD AND JEWELS ARE PERENNIAL FAVORITES, BUT RARE SPEAKS A LANGUAGE OF ITS OWN: IN THE 1800S WHEN ALUMINUM WAS EXOTIC AND NEW, THE BOURGEOIS ARISTOCRATS OF FRANCE PRIZED THEIR FLIMSY, INCONVENIENT, ALUMINUM CUTLERY MORE THAN THEIR ANTIQUE SILVERWARE. TODAY, BIRKIN BAGS APPRECIATE WITH AN AVERAGE 14% ANNUAL RETURN, CONSISTENTLY BEATING THE S&P 500 - BY THIS METRIC, JUST AS GOLD, THOUGH SHINY, IS NO LONGER THE BASIS OF CURRENCY, WE CAN LOOK TO THE BIRKIN BAG ITSELF AS THE NEW LUXURY RAW MATERIAL PAR EXCELLENCE. SANDALS OF THESEUS WHEN BRANDS COLLABORATE THEY CONFLATE, CROSSOVER, AND CONTEXT-COLLAPSE. A LOGO GETS REPLACED HERE, A BRAND COLOR THERE. IN THE END, WHAT OF THE FLAGSHIP PRODUCT REMAINS? BIRKINSTOCKS, THOUGH, ARE NO COLLABORATION; PERHAPS WE MIGHT MORE PROPERLY CALL THEM A TRANSUBSTANTIATION. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS WHAT ARE BIRKINSTOCKS? EVER MIS-SPELL SOMETHING AND THEN REALIZE YOU ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT? BIRKINSTOCKS ARE THE MOST EXCLUSIVE SANDAL EVER MADE. ALL LEATHER IS SOURCED FROM GENUINE BIRKIN BAGS. HOW WERE BIRKINSTOCKS MADE? BIRKINSTOCKS ARE MADE FROM GENUINE BIRKIN BAGS, WHICH ARE FIRST DISASSEMBLED, THEN FLATTENED. WE THEN CUT OUR PATTERN FROM THIS BIRKIN LEATHER, AND ASSEMBLE IT TOGETHER WITH A BIRKENSTOCK CORK FOOTBED AND RUBBER SOLE. ALL BIRKINSTOCKS ARE CRAFTED BY HAND IN USA. BECAUSE OUR PROCESS STARTS WITH AN INDIVIDUAL BIRKIN BAG, EACH PAIR OF BIRKINSTOCKS IS A SINGULAR BESPOKE OBJECT. THERE IS NO STOCK MODEL. ARE HERMES AND BIRKENSTOCK PART OF THIS COLLAB? MAIS, OUI. ET NON BIRKINSTOCK IS MSCHF DROP #39 EVERY DROP IS DIFFERENT, AND WE NEVER DO THE SAME THING TWICE. DOWNLOAD THE MSCHF APP TO HEAR ABOUT FUTURE DROPS. It's upselling at it's worst. Convince people to distinguish themselves by purchasing an exclusive product.
	11:32am rx scabin: @Mike W and Dusty the title?
	11:34am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "al enim" by "hamlet minassian" this bangs the bell!
	11:34am Mike W and Dusty: ↳ rx scabin @11:32 “Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead,” by Olga Tokarczuk of Poland. I might also buy the reviewer’s book of essays, “Look Alive Out There” (Sloane Crosley).
	11:34am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: Hi Trouble! Hi all! Late to the game this morning. Thanks for the music, Trouble!
	11:36am rx scabin: @Mike W and Dusty thank you
	11:36am Mike W and Dusty: The book was good! Almost breezy, considering the subject (animals taking revenge on their bullies, the humans??), with a handful of crushing profound moments.
	11:37am northguineahills: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @11:36 thanks!
	11:38am Dance the Blues: Cars were a bad idea
	11:38am northguineahills: 17c
	11:41am kevlicki: Morning Trouble! Speaking of the commons, I love returning to Billy Bragg version of the world turned upside down. I get choked up every time it gets to the repression of the diggers
	11:41am The Oscar: As a writer on the internet, I hope AI dies quickly and soon. As a reader on the internet, it's leaving me with fewer and fewer places to rely on for non-gibberish.
	11:41am northguineahills: AI==Spinning Jenny, nice!
	11:42am chresti: the easier life is, the lazier and more complacent people get
	11:42am Fred and Alan: Hello everyone
	11:43am northguineahills: ↳ The Oscar @11:41 there was always plenty of gibberish online before AI....
	11:43am rsj: was it bill hicks? now we have so much more time for internet/porn! ny times article about splintering of workforce and relating to henry ford, assembly line, that nazi
	11:43am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:42 or so it seems
	11:43am Ironside: ↳ Fred and Alan @11:42 Hey Fred and Alan!
	11:44am HyperDose: ↳ Fred and Alan @11:42 Nice to see you guys! Hope you're well
	11:46am joe mulligan: my wife was given a fake Birkin bag and I tried to sell it on ebay. somehow ebay caught on that it wasn't authentic and wouldnt let me sell it, even if I called it a copy/replica. the terrible labor conditions to make the bags upset me, but it also bugs me that ebay is not leaving options for keeping the copycat bags from the landfill
	11:46am The Butterman: “Blue Magic, Doobie Brothers, David Boo-e, it was cool, but can you imaging doobie in yo funk? Ho!” George Clinton. Sorry, I have to write that EVERY time I hear Blue Magic.
	11:47am Jane B fan: Love makin' jams
	11:47am joe mulligan: ↳ joe mulligan @11:46 actually it was Facebook Marketplace. oh Zuck
	11:49am Trouble: want to read more about what the privatization of land meant to society? ( and most especially women) files.libcom.org...
	11:50am Katharsis: ngh such an adventure! Yay NYC parks!….Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead inspired a very long dance piece by a troupe I follow. I haven’t watched it yet…the threads, the threads-spindle and distaff…the use of the word “staff” to indicate “workers”…. I just read a new poem for the first time last night that speaks of such things
	11:50am Trouble: @kevlicki: i will look out for that. merci!
	11:50am Robm: ↳ Trouble @11:49 bookmarked it trouble for a good read later
	11:52am Vivian: ↳ joe mulligan @11:46 Have you tried selling it on Facebook?
	11:53am northguineahills: ↳ Katharsis @11:50 you just packed so much awesomeness in one comment, i don't know where to start. now i want to read the book suggested by mike and dusty, want to see that dance troupe, investigate some more proto-capitalism etymologies, and what poem?
	11:53am Katharsis: I have finally started the caliban and the witch. It’s heady and small print. I actually bought a pair of reading glasses so I can read this book.
	11:54am jan: @joe- recycling fake handbags into shoes would be a green strategy. As a side note: Apparently fake luxury bags are becoming more and more indistinguishable from the real.
	11:54am northguineahills: Trouble, thanks for another educational foray through a savanna of sounds to susurrate us in the sun!
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Thank you, Trouble. Didn't have it in me to comment really this morning. But deep appreciation for the sounds and the sanity.
	11:56am love2laf: Thank you Trouble for your thoughtful and inspiring mic breaks with fabulous music weaving in and out of the airwaves in style. Thank you fellow modernists for so much great info and chat.
	11:56am chris in the redwoods: thanks, Trouble! always a pleasure to listen to your show.
	11:56am chresti: ↳ jan @11:54 Mushroom leather!
	11:56am Robm: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:54 condolences handy
	11:56am Ironside: Thank you so much Trouble! Such a great show!
	11:56am listener james from westwood: Trouble, always a delight to listen and to learn!
	11:56am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am rx scabin: Thank you and goodbye for now, Trouble and Everyone.
	11:57am jan: love this final track
	11:57am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	11:58am Yes: <333 thank you, trouble
	11:58am Katharsis: I do notice the book has pictures! so once I get through the first few chapters I imagine it will roll along a little more
	11:58am bradford: Many thanks Trouble!
	11:58am Zinn The Mood: ↳ Song: "collapse" by "Y la bamba" Bass line reminiscent of Bjork’s “Army of Me.”
	11:58am Vivian: ↳ joe mulligan @11:47 I just noticed your comment re: FB. Another avenue- I know there consignment sites on the web - like ThredUp. Alternate way to keep it out of the landfill- donate to a university or college. Some have donation closets for students. Or just regift it.
	11:59am Chris Hiatt: Thanks, DJ Trouble.
	12:00pm gauche knee: ↳ Trouble @11:49 A crucial read! Your show is both mind & heart expanding for us troubled & trouble makers on & off the chat…a bit fun too! 🙏🏾
	12:04pm joe mulligan: ↳ Vivian @11:58 those are great ideas thanks!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	New	Approx. start time
henry wolff, nancy hennings with drew gladstone	clear light	tibetan bells					0:00:00 (Pop-up)
spiritualized	ladies and gentleman we are floating in space	ladies and gentleman we are floating in space					0:04:40 (Pop-up)
Helen Money/Will Thomas	half asleep	trace	thrill jockey			*	0:07:24 (Pop-up)
wobbly	family "family" by "wobbly"	additional kids	hausu mountain			*	0:10:19 (Pop-up)
gwenno	tonnow "tonnow" by "gwenno"	tresor	heavenly/PIAS			*	0:15:06 (Pop-up)
liz durette	as it is "as it is" by "liz durette"	primordial soup	feeding tube			*	0:21:47 (Pop-up)

fatima al qadiri	malaak "malaak" by "fatima al qadiri"	medieval femme					0:36:46 (Pop-up)
jane birkin with feist	the simple story						0:39:37 (Pop-up)
guilherme coutinho	tema pro alvarito	Guilherme Coutinho E O Grupo Stalo	mr bongo	1978		*	0:43:26 (Pop-up)
roland p young	vastness "vastness" by "roland p young"	Spontaneous Bounce	EM records			*	0:50:48 (Pop-up)
jamila woods	way up "way up" by "jamila woods"	HEAVN					0:53:47 (Pop-up)

angel olsen	something on your mind		light inthe attic		7"	*	1:03:47 (Pop-up)
Schneider TM	ibot ( with a soul) "ibot ( with a soul)" by "Schneider TM"	A Simple Desultory Techtonic: Mark Hurst's 2023 WFMU Marathon Premium				*	1:06:46 (Pop-up)
jane birkin	ou est la ville? "ou est la ville?" by "jane birkin"	fictions					1:13:53 (Pop-up)
jane birkin serge gainsbourg	jane b	jane birkin serge gainsbourg					1:17:51 (Pop-up)
jane birkin	Je T'aime Moi Non Plus avec serge gainsbourg				7"		1:21:14 (Pop-up)
jane birkin	comment te dire adieu ( cover francoise hardy)	Arabesque					1:25:07 (Pop-up)
jane birkin	encore lui "encore lui" by "jane birkin"	di doo dah					1:30:42 (Pop-up)
depeche mode	My Favourite Stranger	memento mori				*	1:33:50 (Pop-up)
vulcans	star trek "star trek" by "vulcans"	star trek					1:38:28 (Pop-up)
gaudi	dub's nine lives ( with adrian sherwood)	100 years of theremin ( the dub chapter)	Dubmission Records			*	1:40:26 (Pop-up)
doris	Did You Give The World Some Love Today Baby?	Did You Give The World Some Love Today Baby?vulcans					1:44:06 (Pop-up)
Si-mark and scott-funkel	the sounds of surveillance	a simple desultory techtonic 2023 marathon premium					1:47:56 (Pop-up)
peggy lee	it changes "it changes" by "peggy lee"	peanutty goodness: sounds and songs from the charlie browniverse/testify prmium 2023 WFMU				*	1:50:50 (Pop-up)
Decisive Pink, Kate NV, Angel Deradoorian	dusk	ticket to fame	fire records			*	1:54:10 (Pop-up)

kristine leschper	blue "blue" by "kristine leschper"	the opening or closing of a door	anti-				2:05:16 (Pop-up)
bridget st john	what am i suppoed to do	the new york sessions					2:07:52 (Pop-up)
ferkat al ard	oghneya "oghneya" by "ferkat al ard"	Oghneya	habibi funk			*	2:10:05 (Pop-up)
will epstein	golden "golden" by "will epstein"	wendy	fat possum			*	2:16:35 (Pop-up)
Arlo Parks	blades "blades" by "Arlo Parks"	my soft machine	transgressive			*	2:19:41 (Pop-up)
tim maia	Gostava Tanto De Você "Gostava Tanto De Você" by "tim maia"	tim maia					2:23:17 (Pop-up)
hamlet minassian	al enim "al enim" by "hamlet minassian"	mr bongo record club vol 4					2:27:47 (Pop-up)

blue magic	welcome to the club "welcome to the club" by "blue magic"	tribal rights of the new saturday night: brooklyn disco 1974-5	ace			*	2:40:57 (Pop-up)
cida desvarieux	nou ke sa inmew "nou ke sa inmew" by "cida desvarieux"	mothers garden ( the funky sounds of female africa 1975-1984)					2:45:29 (Pop-up)
akiko yano	onnatachiyo otokotachiyo	ai ga nakucha ne					2:48:59 (Pop-up)
Y la bamba	collapse "collapse" by "Y la bamba"	Lucha	tender loving empire			*	2:56:02 (Pop-up)
hiroshi sato	From Me To You ( the beatles)	Kyōryū Ongaku: Made The Dinosaur Into a Synthesizer wfmu premium/darren mabee					2:57:22 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:01am Dances with Moomins: Hi Trouble and Modernists of the world
	9:01am Yetz: Somebody's knockin' on the door Somebody's ringin' the bell
	9:01am Andrea C: Hello :)
	9:02am rx scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	9:02am bradford: Good Morning Trouble & all!
	9:03am Robm: morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:04am love2laf: Good morning Trouble, looking forward to the music and the mic breaks. Always illuminating. Hello fellow modernists, and pixie for Handy, K8, NGH, Krys O, and rx scabin.
	9:06am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all! Happy Moon Day! I was less than a month old today in 1969. My dad held wee me up to see the moment of the moon landing.
	9:06am Trouble: good morning earthlings! i forgot all about my fave historical space landing moment, o dear...
	9:06am Yetz: ↳ Song: "ladies and gentleman we are floating in space" by... Are you trying to make me weep this morning, Trouble? Because if you are, it's working. This one gets me every time!
	9:06am Ironside: Good Morning Trouble and Moderns! Hope everyone's having a great morning so far!
	9:06am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:04 morning love2laf lotta pixie today for our fellow chatter’s, its well deserved
	9:06am Malcolm: Good morning
	9:08am βrian: Buenas! It's sunny and temperate on the isthmus today.
	9:08am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:06 Good morning to you Robm, hoping you have no need for pixie but sending to you regardless. Hope the air is better by you today, and you're free to go outside.
	9:09am rx scabin: @Yetz occasional weeping is good for you.
	9:09am rx scabin: @love2laf good morning.
	9:09am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:08 thanks love it’s 92 AQ here and if it gets higher staying inside @Yets howdy
	9:10am Strandlund: I'm ready to get into Trouble!!
	9:10am βrian: ↳ Song: "half asleep" by "Helen Money/Will Thomas" This is luffly!
	9:11am Robm: ↳ Yetz @9:06 between handy and krys o it’s been that kind of morning unfortunately
	9:11am love2laf: ↳ rx scabin @9:09 How is the writing going for your mom's obit? And how is your daughter doing? As my sister would say, hoping today brings medium times.
	9:13am rx scabin: Local (to rx scabin) Bird News: the hummingbirds are in the bee balm and there are three Merlins in the neighborhood, a female, an older male, and a young male. The younger male keeps "trying to beat the older one's time" with the female; bird drama ensues.
	9:14am βrian: I see no Handy here.
	9:15am HyperDose: This is so delightfully spooky
	9:16am Robm: ↳ βrian @9:14 brian check out the accu for clays show
	9:17am rx scabin: @love2laf my daughter is OK. She has a security camera now and is waiting for court dates. Patience is a super power. The obituary is done but for a final read through for flow. Both siblings approved. I was smart/lucky enough to send a rough draft. My brother said, "Looks good, needs a little polishing." It was more back and forth with my sister
	9:19am βrian: ↳ Robm @9:16 Ach, the beloved Bagpipe!
	9:19am love2laf: ↳ rx scabin @9:17 I'm glad for your daughter that she's taking these steps, and you're so right, patience is a super power. Kind of you to have the back and forth with your sister, it's part of her grieving process, and you did a good thing there.
	9:21am TDK60: ↳ Song: "tonnow" by "gwenno" Good morning, Trouble. Glad to be in time for Gwenno's Cornish. Or is it Welsh?
	9:21am Robm: ↳ βrian @9:19 i think it happened late yesterday
	9:22am love2laf: In very sad bird news, my phoebes will not be successful in raising young ones this year. The pine marten put an end to their parenting. Both phoebes are still in the area, and I am hopeful they will be more successful next year.
	9:23am βrian: I mentioned here, about a year ago, that our furry orange man had been diagnosed with a tumor. Amazingly, he's still around and doing well, thanks to regular meds and potassium. He spends at least an hour or two in the garden every day, dreamily nestled in the oregano.
	9:23am Webhamster Henry: Excellent Thursday Music here, Trouble!
	9:24am Mike W and Dusty: My low-rent version of clicky-starring is just taking a photo of my phone screen, and g.d. it to h., Trouble, i have so many screen caps taken these three hours every week
	9:25am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Song: "as it is" by "liz durette" Summer of Soup! Good morning.
	9:27am love2laf: ↳ βrian @9:23 Glad to hear he's doing well, and I love the dreaming in the oregano part of his day.
	9:34am Bethany in deBary, FL: Glitertastic LP day on Bastille day?????? How am I not in the tristate area anymore!
	9:35am Robm: i thought that was done during matts show on tuesday?
	9:35am Bethany in deBary, FL: We heard ittttt
	9:35am Karl: I am alerted via MP3 stream
	9:35am bradford: loud & clear Trouble!
	9:36am love2laf: ↳ Robm @9:35 And I feel like it was on another show as well, and we have been alerted 3 times in total this week.
	9:37am Zinn The Mood: Hello Trouble and T-Makers. Got to sleep in today. Sitting at the kitchen table with the daily chicory and espresso coffee and smoothie (mango, banana, peanut butter and flax with almond milk). Son has a book on Civil War asking me questions. Have made it policy in our home that we don’t have play guns or glorify warfare, etc. So I’m trying to navigate this the best way. Steering to conversation toward the great John Brown and the atrocities of slavery that he sought to selflessly sacrifice himself for. Ironically my latest book is “The Haitian Revolution and the Early United States.” Like the Cuban Revolution we purposefully are told very little or nothing about these successful Caribbean uprisings. Question everything, folks. I tell my kids this often.
	9:37am Amber: The truth is out there
	9:37am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:36 too much of a good thing?????
	9:38am Robm: ↳ Amber @9:37 cuing the xfiles amber:)
	9:39am Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "malaak" by "fatima al qadiri" "Medieval Femme" is such a great title.
	9:40am Mike W and Dusty: I’m sure we’ll be somewhat grateful to have the EBS if the day comes that, i dunno, the aliens attack or something, but the directives will probably be very helpful along the lines of, “Move to a safe space immediately”
	9:41am pot8o: good morning troublemakers!
	9:41am Amber: ↳ Robm @9:38 Haha ;)
	9:41am Robm: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @9:40 or kiss your ass goodbye
	9:43am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @9:40 We got a Tornado Warning at about 4:50 AM the other day in Ulster County... a warning, not a watch! ... but it wasn't even particularly windy here. The classic EBS warning failure is that it didn't go off on 9/11.
	9:44am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:43 I got that, too (Dutchess County). It was merely cloudy at the time.
	9:44am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "the simple story" by "jane birkin with feist" Watched Agnes Varda's "Jane B by Agnes V" on Sunday night-- really cool film, and essential for any fan of Birkin.
	9:44am Passaic River Blues: ↳ Song: "the simple story" by "jane birkin with feist" Paix à son âme.
	9:46am Slaboch: Wow! Never heard Guilherme Coutinho before, this sounds fantastic! Reminds me of that Frankie Reyes Boleros album on Stones Throw. Hope you are doing well!
	9:49am Amber: This music makes me wanna dance like Snoopy :3
	9:49am Trouble: hey michael! this is the only long playing record he made, cult classic re-issued by mr bongo. he died in the early 80's, young
	9:57am Son Of Pantz: If only Chairface had finished carving his name on the Moon, it would be worth looking at.
	9:58am Listening Out There: Good program t’day…
	9:58am Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "way up" by "jamila woods" Loving this cut. The singer has a great instrument!
	9:59am HyperDose: Erasure in America is alive and well
	10:01am Bethany in deBary, FL: Trouble, I appreciate you keeping us updated and framing these issues
	10:01am Sean: Edward Blum
	10:03am Robm: ↳ Bethany in deBary, FL @10:01 @Bethany i second that, and the other djs are pretty good at it too
	10:06am jan: Birkin bags- costly fetishes these days!
	10:07am Amber: ↳ Bethany in deBary, FL @10:01 I third that, thank you Trouble and everyone at WFMU for speaking up about these things <3
	10:07am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:03 Thirded. Trouble has a knack for framing it in such a matter of fact way. Gives me hope that there is a voice of reason in this mad world.
	10:09am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:07 one of the very few L2L
	10:09am Trouble: thanks@sean: i didn't mention his name b/c it's my little way of not giving precedence to the enemy by naming him
	10:10am Amber: ↳ love2laf @10:07 Hey, I was third first lol jk :)
	10:10am Trouble: thanks all! i am an educator so this ruling has crushed me. I teach mostly students of color, who are often first generation college attendees.
	10:11am love2laf: ↳ Amber @10:10 I know, I owe you a pepsi now right? :)
	10:11am chresti: Hi Trouble and troubled!
	10:12am Amber: ↳ love2laf @10:11 Haha don't worry about it :) we can both be third!
	10:14am dougseidel: Thanks for this show always!
	10:15am chris in the redwoods: hi, Trouble, chresti, everyone!
	10:20am Jane B fan: This is a genius chord progression
	10:20am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "jane b" by "jane birkin serge gainsbourg" very sensual 😍
	10:20am Roberto: ↳ Song: "jane b" by "jane birkin serge gainsbourg" Avec une contribution de Frederic Chopin
	10:21am Amber: ↳ Trouble @10:10 I can't even imagine how heartbreaking that must be. We'll continue to fight the good fight and hopefully get some of these awful changes reversed <3
	10:21am coco: nice choice of songs . Lovely tribute
	10:22am Yetz: birkinstock.shoes - sandals made from destroyed Birkin bags (sold out immediately)
	10:24am Marie in Queens: I'll never grow tired of this song. Hey Trouble, hey all!
	10:24am iiibeat: RFK Jr. testifying before Congress on censorship this morning . .
	10:25am Zinn The Mood: (in middle of laundry here, hanging clothes on roof…) Just finished an academic book on James Baldwin’s writings about the “criminal power” of the American justice, law enforcement and corrections sectors, and how extends to housing, schooling, etc. Basically, as white folks so totally removed from the stark and unavoidable realities of Institutional Racism, it is near impossible to have the requisite empathy necessary to reverse 4 centuries of sadistic dehumanization. Reading history reveals it’s been a common thread throughout that white people are conditioned to feeling indignant about losing their supremacy, real or imagined. Just read about the Negro Seaman’s Act, which was the frightened response of S Carolina in the 1830’s to the Denmark Vescey revolt and its alleged ties to the Haitian Rev, making it legal to imprison black British freedman sailors, just because. American history goes on and on like this. Not surprised by the Catholic fascists on the SCOTUS. They’ve each lived lives of privilege and exceptional separateness under which they’ve not ever had the visceral feeling of the degradation of institutional racism in all of its psychological and material dimensions. Rejoice though. It couldn’t be more clear, in these and many other ways, that the end of the American Empire is close at hand. There will be a brighter day. But is must get darker just before the Dawn.
	10:26am love2laf: ↳ Trouble @10:10 I am grateful your students have you to clearly discuss these issues. That's worth a lot to them, and to all of us waiting for these horrible rulings to be reversed.
	10:26am chris in the redwoods: ↳ Song: "Je T'aime Moi Non Plus avec serge gainsbourg" by ... the line about her body being without issue always gets me. such a groovy tune
	10:28am βrian: Gomez Addams is going nuts.
	10:30am Amber: ↳ βrian @10:28 Lol XD
	10:30am The Oscar: I don't think I grasped what a big deal Jane and Serge were in France until I went to Paris-- their pictures are everywhere!
	10:32am βrian: ↳ The Oscar @10:30 Bigger than Jerry Lewis and Mickey Rourke?
	10:34am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	10:36am Zinn The Mood: Good discussion yesterday between two great black scholars/authors about the whitewashing and erasure of black history, and the affirmative action decision and its history. www.youtube.com...
	10:36am love2laf: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" I always imagine Dave Gahan listening to Trouble every week, and when trouble plays a Depeche Mode song, I smile even bigger picturing his joy in hearing her play his music.
	10:36am Spikey BXL: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" think the title is favourite stranger - but that's a detail, lovely track
	10:37am Dance the Blues: ↳ Song: "My Favourite Stranger" by "depeche mode" Get a room!
	10:48am katharsis: Hellos trouble and modernists
	10:48am HyperDose: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... here come the waterworks. an instant American classic 😭
	10:49am Dances with Moomins: ain't it the truth
	10:49am chris in the redwoods: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... hahaha love this
	10:49am love2laf: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... Oh this is choice!
	10:49am chresti: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... woo-hooo!
	10:49am Zinn The Mood: “Well, if one really wishes to know how justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class. One goes to the unprotected — those, precisely, who need the law's protection most! — and listens to their testimony. Ask any Mexican, any Puerto Rican, any black man, any poor person — ask the wretched how they fare in the halls of justice, and then you will know, not whether or not the country is just, but whether or not it has any love for justice, or any concept of it. It is certain, in any case, that ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.” James Baldwin, “No Name in the Street” (1972)
	10:50am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "the sounds of surveillance" by "Si-mark and scott... Figured this one had to be a Mark Hurst special!! Love it!
	10:51am bluecharlie: Not, 'Google Maps!' 🤣
	10:57am Trouble: check this out if you are not a fan of plastic destroying the earth: www.breakfreefromplastic.org...
	11:02am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Trouble @10:57 in re: plastics, look up Judith Enck: www.beyondplastics.org...
	11:04am LizGig: Hi Trouble! The children's comedian Olaf Felafel has just published a great picture book about plastic. It's called Blobfish. Blobfish tries to make a friend, meets a plastic bag, has a great time dancing, and then gets trapped in the bag. Also contains knock knock jokes. I don't know if it has been released in the US, but if you need a picture book, look out for it. It's the best young kid's book I've seen on plastic. No preaching, no po-face.
	11:07am Trouble: thanks @ lizgig: will look for it!
	11:10am jan: Destroyed Birkin bags?! How does that happen? Better that the Birkenstock factory obtained scrap leather from the manufacture of Birken bags from the Hermes factory than destroying finished objects to make more overpriced talismans.
	11:11am Erella: You are so right. People think that "recycling" removes plastic from the planet somehow. Every bit of plastic we've ever interacted with, every princess phone and calculator is still somewhere on the planet. I found that very sobering.
	11:11am Trouble: @ jan : my mistake, perhaps it is from the off cuts from the process of making the bags, what would normally be destroyed.
	11:13am Zinn The Mood: ↳ LizGig @11:04 Thanks for this; will look at the library! Just driving in car with kids having good conversation about it all, spurred by Trouble’s advocacy. Thanks T!
	11:17am jan: @Trouble, nah- the link says "BIRKENSTOCKS MADE FROM DESTROYED BIRKIN BAGS"
	11:18am northguineahills: ok, back from the interview....
	11:19am Robm: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 how did it go?
	11:19am Jason from Houston: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 Heyyyyyy... Good? Get in okay?
	11:19am Trouble: hmmm, @ jan, that does sound weird: why would they destroy an expensive bag that has a mad waiting list?
	11:19am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:18 How did your interviews go from yesterday and today? Still spreading pixie madly about for you!
	11:21am jan: @Trouble, and there's a video showing a worker unboxing what appears to be a perfect Alligator or other reptile skin bag, and proceeding to cut it apart. Here's a link to an upcoming Birkin Bag auction I looked at yesterday after reading about Birkin's demise:https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/fashion/handbag/hermes/birkin?page=3
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:19 yesterday went fine, i'm not sure if i answered the questions fully adequately, but I acquitted my rather well, although i felt comfortable w/ those interviewers. today, i believe they thought I was overqualified. then there was the issue that my foot started itching so bad, that I had to take my shoe off (w/ my other foot) and scratch it(again, w/ my foot) while answering questions, as the itching was too distracting (tmi?). But, I sort bombed them w/ info and data.
	11:23am Trouble: @ jan: ok that's sick
	11:23am jan: @Trouble- Why? Because they could transfer talismanic values to an ordinary thing.
	11:23am northguineahills: ↳ love2laf @11:19 and thanks, i could stand to drown in pixie...
	11:25am Trouble: @jan: the waste in the production of the bag is then tripled in that it is cut up to become a shoe. it's ridiculous, to me.
	11:25am rx scabin: @northguineahills hoping you get the job you want.
	11:25am northguineahills: ↳ Jason from Houston @11:19 it was tricky, and awkward, but I managed (the security guard was friendly, which helped). on the way out, i couldn't get a signal on my phone to order an Lyft, so I had to go way out in the parking lot just to order the car. that driver had no problem following my instructions to get through the gate and actually pick me up in the garage.
	11:25am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:23 Oh how distracting to have such a foot itch! Sounds like you acquitted yourself well in both cases, and you did good. I will keep the pixie going, and await to hear great news from you soon :)
	11:28am northguineahills: ↳ rx scabin @11:25 when, I got (scheduled) the interview for nyc parks, the day before the ConEd one, and I realized that NYC Parks is what I'd prefer to as opposed to a for-profit utility company.... today's job was more of a GIS technician (rather than an analyst or developer) for a public utility (yes, that actually still exists in FL)
	11:31am Mike W and Dusty: There was a lot of talk about our companion animals earlier, as there is pretty much every week — les oiseaux at the least — and I was reminded of this line in a recent book review: “The smoother argument made [here] is that conforming to nature is sanity, whereas conforming to humanity is idiocy. To be in constant grief due to the cruelty of man is not misanthropy, it’s pure logic.”
	11:31am Mike W and Dusty: Listeners, I bought the book.
	11:32am jan: @Trouble- If you have some time to waste, read this "manifesto" copied from the link you posted: MANIFESTO ADDITIONAL STEPS INCREASE RETAIL VALUE THEREFORE: MAKE LUXURY OBJECTS OUT OF OTHER COMPLETE OBJECTS THE PROCESS OF COMMODITY PRODUCTION: AT EVERY STEP A SET OF COMPONENT RESOURCES GOES IN AND A SLIGHTLY MORE WORKED OR ASSEMBLED PRODUCT COMES OUT. ORE IS MINED, SMELTED, CAST INTO STEEL; STEEL AND PLASTIC MEET STAMP AND MOLD TO PRODUCE A RAZOR; A RAZOR GETS PUT IN A PASTEL BOX AND BECOMES A LIFESTYLE SUBSCRIPTION PRODUCT™! AND THERE'S A CONSTANT DRIVE TO EXTEND THESE PROCESSES: IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'VE LEARNED FROM SUBSCRIPTION BUNDLING IT'S THAT ONE MORE STEP IN THE PRODUCTION CHAIN EQUALS ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO UPSELL. LUXURY PRODUCTS USE VALUABLE MATERIALS. MATERIALS DERIVE VALUE FROM THEIR PLACE IN HISTORY AND CULTURE. HISTORICALLY WE MAKE LUXURY OBJECTS OUT OF INHERENTLY VALUABLE MATERIALS. GOLD AND JEWELS ARE PERENNIAL FAVORITES, BUT RARE SPEAKS A LANGUAGE OF ITS OWN: IN THE 1800S WHEN ALUMINUM WAS EXOTIC AND NEW, THE BOURGEOIS ARISTOCRATS OF FRANCE PRIZED THEIR FLIMSY, INCONVENIENT, ALUMINUM CUTLERY MORE THAN THEIR ANTIQUE SILVERWARE. TODAY, BIRKIN BAGS APPRECIATE WITH AN AVERAGE 14% ANNUAL RETURN, CONSISTENTLY BEATING THE S&P 500 - BY THIS METRIC, JUST AS GOLD, THOUGH SHINY, IS NO LONGER THE BASIS OF CURRENCY, WE CAN LOOK TO THE BIRKIN BAG ITSELF AS THE NEW LUXURY RAW MATERIAL PAR EXCELLENCE. SANDALS OF THESEUS WHEN BRANDS COLLABORATE THEY CONFLATE, CROSSOVER, AND CONTEXT-COLLAPSE. A LOGO GETS REPLACED HERE, A BRAND COLOR THERE. IN THE END, WHAT OF THE FLAGSHIP PRODUCT REMAINS? BIRKINSTOCKS, THOUGH, ARE NO COLLABORATION; PERHAPS WE MIGHT MORE PROPERLY CALL THEM A TRANSUBSTANTIATION. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS WHAT ARE BIRKINSTOCKS? EVER MIS-SPELL SOMETHING AND THEN REALIZE YOU ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT? BIRKINSTOCKS ARE THE MOST EXCLUSIVE SANDAL EVER MADE. ALL LEATHER IS SOURCED FROM GENUINE BIRKIN BAGS. HOW WERE BIRKINSTOCKS MADE? BIRKINSTOCKS ARE MADE FROM GENUINE BIRKIN BAGS, WHICH ARE FIRST DISASSEMBLED, THEN FLATTENED. WE THEN CUT OUR PATTERN FROM THIS BIRKIN LEATHER, AND ASSEMBLE IT TOGETHER WITH A BIRKENSTOCK CORK FOOTBED AND RUBBER SOLE. ALL BIRKINSTOCKS ARE CRAFTED BY HAND IN USA. BECAUSE OUR PROCESS STARTS WITH AN INDIVIDUAL BIRKIN BAG, EACH PAIR OF BIRKINSTOCKS IS A SINGULAR BESPOKE OBJECT. THERE IS NO STOCK MODEL. ARE HERMES AND BIRKENSTOCK PART OF THIS COLLAB? MAIS, OUI. ET NON BIRKINSTOCK IS MSCHF DROP #39 EVERY DROP IS DIFFERENT, AND WE NEVER DO THE SAME THING TWICE. DOWNLOAD THE MSCHF APP TO HEAR ABOUT FUTURE DROPS. It's upselling at it's worst. Convince people to distinguish themselves by purchasing an exclusive product.
	11:32am rx scabin: @Mike W and Dusty the title?
	11:34am northguineahills: ↳ Song: "al enim" by "hamlet minassian" this bangs the bell!
	11:34am Mike W and Dusty: ↳ rx scabin @11:32 “Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead,” by Olga Tokarczuk of Poland. I might also buy the reviewer’s book of essays, “Look Alive Out There” (Sloane Crosley).
	11:34am Listener Jonny in MA............. d-_-b: Hi Trouble! Hi all! Late to the game this morning. Thanks for the music, Trouble!
	11:36am rx scabin: @Mike W and Dusty thank you
	11:36am Mike W and Dusty: The book was good! Almost breezy, considering the subject (animals taking revenge on their bullies, the humans??), with a handful of crushing profound moments.
	11:37am northguineahills: ↳ Mike W and Dusty @11:36 thanks!
	11:38am Dance the Blues: Cars were a bad idea
	11:38am northguineahills: 17c
	11:41am kevlicki: Morning Trouble! Speaking of the commons, I love returning to Billy Bragg version of the world turned upside down. I get choked up every time it gets to the repression of the diggers
	11:41am The Oscar: As a writer on the internet, I hope AI dies quickly and soon. As a reader on the internet, it's leaving me with fewer and fewer places to rely on for non-gibberish.
	11:41am northguineahills: AI==Spinning Jenny, nice!
	11:42am chresti: the easier life is, the lazier and more complacent people get
	11:42am Fred and Alan: Hello everyone
	11:43am northguineahills: ↳ The Oscar @11:41 there was always plenty of gibberish online before AI....
	11:43am rsj: was it bill hicks? now we have so much more time for internet/porn! ny times article about splintering of workforce and relating to henry ford, assembly line, that nazi
	11:43am chresti: ↳ chresti @11:42 or so it seems
	11:43am Ironside: ↳ Fred and Alan @11:42 Hey Fred and Alan!
	11:44am HyperDose: ↳ Fred and Alan @11:42 Nice to see you guys! Hope you're well
	11:46am joe mulligan: my wife was given a fake Birkin bag and I tried to sell it on ebay. somehow ebay caught on that it wasn't authentic and wouldnt let me sell it, even if I called it a copy/replica. the terrible labor conditions to make the bags upset me, but it also bugs me that ebay is not leaving options for keeping the copycat bags from the landfill
	11:46am The Butterman: “Blue Magic, Doobie Brothers, David Boo-e, it was cool, but can you imaging doobie in yo funk? Ho!” George Clinton. Sorry, I have to write that EVERY time I hear Blue Magic.
	11:47am Jane B fan: Love makin' jams
	11:47am joe mulligan: ↳ joe mulligan @11:46 actually it was Facebook Marketplace. oh Zuck
	11:49am Trouble: want to read more about what the privatization of land meant to society? ( and most especially women) files.libcom.org...
	11:50am Katharsis: ngh such an adventure! Yay NYC parks!….Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead inspired a very long dance piece by a troupe I follow. I haven’t watched it yet…the threads, the threads-spindle and distaff…the use of the word “staff” to indicate “workers”…. I just read a new poem for the first time last night that speaks of such things
	11:50am Trouble: @kevlicki: i will look out for that. merci!
	11:50am Robm: ↳ Trouble @11:49 bookmarked it trouble for a good read later
	11:52am Vivian: ↳ joe mulligan @11:46 Have you tried selling it on Facebook?
	11:53am northguineahills: ↳ Katharsis @11:50 you just packed so much awesomeness in one comment, i don't know where to start. now i want to read the book suggested by mike and dusty, want to see that dance troupe, investigate some more proto-capitalism etymologies, and what poem?
	11:53am Katharsis: I have finally started the caliban and the witch. It’s heady and small print. I actually bought a pair of reading glasses so I can read this book.
	11:54am jan: @joe- recycling fake handbags into shoes would be a green strategy. As a side note: Apparently fake luxury bags are becoming more and more indistinguishable from the real.
	11:54am northguineahills: Trouble, thanks for another educational foray through a savanna of sounds to susurrate us in the sun!
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Thank you, Trouble. Didn't have it in me to comment really this morning. But deep appreciation for the sounds and the sanity.
	11:56am love2laf: Thank you Trouble for your thoughtful and inspiring mic breaks with fabulous music weaving in and out of the airwaves in style. Thank you fellow modernists for so much great info and chat.
	11:56am chris in the redwoods: thanks, Trouble! always a pleasure to listen to your show.
	11:56am chresti: ↳ jan @11:54 Mushroom leather!
	11:56am Robm: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:54 condolences handy
	11:56am Ironside: Thank you so much Trouble! Such a great show!
	11:56am listener james from westwood: Trouble, always a delight to listen and to learn!
	11:56am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:57am rx scabin: Thank you and goodbye for now, Trouble and Everyone.
	11:57am jan: love this final track
	11:57am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	11:58am Yes: <333 thank you, trouble
	11:58am Katharsis: I do notice the book has pictures! so once I get through the first few chapters I imagine it will roll along a little more
	11:58am bradford: Many thanks Trouble!
	11:58am Zinn The Mood: ↳ Song: "collapse" by "Y la bamba" Bass line reminiscent of Bjork’s “Army of Me.”
	11:58am Vivian: ↳ joe mulligan @11:47 I just noticed your comment re: FB. Another avenue- I know there consignment sites on the web - like ThredUp. Alternate way to keep it out of the landfill- donate to a university or college. Some have donation closets for students. Or just regift it.
	11:59am Chris Hiatt: Thanks, DJ Trouble.
	12:00pm gauche knee: ↳ Trouble @11:49 A crucial read! Your show is both mind & heart expanding for us troubled & trouble makers on & off the chat…a bit fun too! 🙏🏾
	12:04pm joe mulligan: ↳ Vivian @11:58 those are great ideas thanks!

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