WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from October 5, 2023

Listener comments!
	9:00am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled. Recently did the production editing on a book related to the title of today's episode: cup.columbia.edu...
	9:00am bradford: Good morning Trouble & all!
	9:00am dreamyandseedy: good morning Trouble and all!
	9:00am Robm: good morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:02am kev: Hi
	9:02am Strandlund: Trouble is my middle name...
	9:02am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Super curious to see what a Wollstonecraft-themed Thursday wil bring, Trouble. Hello troublemakers.
	9:04am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:02 Some sort of new colossus?
	9:04am Marley P. Dogg: Morning troublers
	9:04am Karl: ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Thought this was Arthur Russell for sure. This is great!
	9:04am Zip7: Good mornng, Troubled modernists! Good soundtrack for a foggy mornng in the Hudson Valley . . .
	9:05am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Beautiful start to the show. I'm heading out for a run and will gladly take Lori and her cello along. I'm with Karl--I thought it was AR.
	9:05am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:04 The Trouble with Modern Girls?
	9:05am alan the painter: Good Morning Trouble, thank you for easing me into my moving day, biggest move to date, a new studio a mile away.
	9:06am Trouble: goood morning october feeling like september
	9:06am Clincher16": Good morning Trouble and Troubled. Well, I'm just a modern guy....
	9:06am Philip: This is a perfect start for me. Thx. Mornin' troublers
	9:07am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ alan the painter @9:05 Congrats on the new studio Alan!
	9:08am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Was looking for the artist on Bandcamp and think it's Goldston not Goldstein? Either way I'm hooked.
	9:08am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:06 Feeling like August
	9:08am Handy Haversack: ↳ Marley P. Dogg @9:04 Hey, Marley! Are you coming across the rivers for Record Fair?
	9:09am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:08 I am! And very excited for it! Not sure which day yet. Which day are you guys going?
	9:09am kevlicki: Morning trouble and all!
	9:10am adampsyche: troubling thursday mornings
	9:10am Clincher16": ↳ Handy Haversack @9:00 Quite the enlightening coincidence. Thanks Handy!
	9:10am Handy Haversack: ↳ Marley P. Dogg @9:09 I'm volunteering both days, 12:30-4. K8 joins me Sunday. We'll probably stick around later on Sunday than I will on Sat. since we're seeing Worriers at the Broadway on Sat. night.
	9:11am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:10 But I'll probably show up an hour early on Sat. so I can take in the sights.
	9:13am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	9:13am slugluv1313: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:08 hi Bryan! Lori Goldston who was a guest with Kendra recently? also collaborator with Laura Cannell?
	9:14am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:11 Nice! I’ll see you there!
	9:15am slugluv1313: good morning, Trouble and Troubles! gotta get back to work here, but happy to be listening with you all 😺😺
	9:16am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln: sounds like trouble… hi all
	9:16am slugluv1313: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:13 (i was wondering the same!)
	9:16am chresti: Morning Trouble and troubled!
	9:16am Irene: Good morning Trouble! Enjoying your usual gentle start to the day.
	9:16am TDK60: Bonjour presenter DJ Trouble and all the Thursday Throng.
	9:16am Trouble: hah! @ handy: i just listened to a podcast called lost ladies of lit where that author was speaking about her new book and Mary. that is how today's show came about...
	9:17am Katharsis: Trouble and troubled hello hello
	9:18am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:16 Just checked the podcast page -- that's our author!
	9:19am slugluv1313: ↳ Song: "A1" by "Catherine Christer Hennix" Catherine Christer Hennix 😻😻 i totally lucked out, was able to see her through Blank Forms -- so mesmerizing, you forgot about the world outside (i feel so blessed)
	9:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:16 I see they have an episode on Sylvia Townsend Warner. I thought Summer Will Show was an excellent book. Haven't read Lolly Willowes yet. I just can't fit podcasts into my deliciously decadent urban lifestyle choices. When I listen to something someone else is putting out there, it's FMU. When I commute, I read.
	9:23am Trouble: @ handylolly willowes is amazing!!! i just listened to that show also, STW was a titan!
	9:25am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:23 We should swap Lolly Wilowes for Summer Will Show! We weren't able to get to the used bookstores in Michigan this year, which hurt.
	9:36am SSS: God! Your right! I'll eat a pumpkin pie, but that flavoring belongs NO where else!!
	9:37am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and spicy pumpkins! 🎃
	9:39am tenacious_bird_of_prey: Thanks for sharing the podcast. My wife is an English High School teacher and this is right in her wheel house. She'll love it!
	9:39am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:21 putting Summer Will Show on my list!
	9:41am TDK60: Wollstonecraft, Godwin, the Shelleys. What a crowd. They stepped, pushed further for us. Now, we should take steps also.
	9:41am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:00 hi Handy! and thank you! (& totally agree re: podcasts! would love to listen to some -- but when?!? and same here -- i read books when i am commuting too!)
	9:44am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: Whoa Bernice…this is hitting my ear in the right way
	9:44am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:41 I don't have a spyphone and really dislike having headphones on out in the world anyway -- I want to be able to hear what's going on around me.
	9:46am Trouble: @honest bernardo... they are super, have a couple of releases, hailing from toronto
	9:48am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:05 Called it! :)
	9:48am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ slugluv1313 @9:13 i will go look up that archive! thanks!
	9:49am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 I call that John Caging it.
	9:50am Zip7: If anyone's interested, I put together a 13-page outline looking at the development of the "advanced capitalist state," how neoliberalism took over in the late '70s, and what's next. I did it for the guys at Wallkill Correctional, but if anyone's interested, PM me at zipperhead7@gmail.com and I'll send you a copy.
	9:51am βrian: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 Yes, no pods/headphones unless one's butt is stationary.
	9:51am Trouble: that sounds fabulous@zip7. I'm in!! gracias!!
	9:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @9:50 In! E-mail sent!
	9:53am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:49 Just got a rush of deja vu. We have had this conversation before I think.
	9:53am common: hello trouble, all
	9:53am <3: what year is this from?
	9:55am Trouble: 1997
	9:56am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:53 But it may just be me repeating myself. I searched comments and found this wfmu.org...
	9:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:56 It's timeless advice!
	9:58am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble, people...
	9:58am love2laf: Good morning Trouble, your sets are helping me to get through the morning, much appreciated. Hello Troubled friends, glad to see the talk is as forward thinking as always.
	9:59am tom tom the pipers son: paula rego channeling goya...
	10:02am chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:59 With some Degas?
	10:02am βrian: Lays wahzoh!
	10:03am Handy Haversack: Oh, also, in the "FINALLY, Some Good News" category: www.thecity.nyc...
	10:04am βrian: A coalescence, maybe?
	10:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @10:02 don't think it has degas' elegance and degas didn't work in b/w much nor ink wash like goya, reminds me to see manet/degas show at the met...
	10:07am Philip: hm that sounds innaresting
	10:09am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" Blossom Dearie is always the correct choice.
	10:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" Blossom! What Henry said!
	10:10am judy from croton: If anyone goes to Field & Supply (great fair with food/music/art) in Kingston this wknd, check out my daughter-in-law's booth, Farewell Frances. Clothes made of vintage fabrics.
	10:10am rx "rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	10:12am duke: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" blossom dearie always makes me smile
	10:15am Trouble: oooh @ judy: i so want to go but looks like there is too much on the schedule. would have loved to say hi to your d-i-l
	10:16am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 same here! i want to hear what is going on, & be aware of my surroundings
	10:18am judy from croton: There's one in Spring, too. Very surreal setting in Kingston
	10:18am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:03 YES! good news is sooo needed -- thank you!
	10:20am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:18 Of course then THIS is happening in my neighborhood: nypost.com...
	10:20am love2laf: @Trouble I love that Alice Coltrane is your safety net, I can think of none better for your back up plan.
	10:20am Zip7: ↳ Song: "walking after midnight" by "jackie de shannon" I think this dates from 1956. She was 15 years old!
	10:20am slugluv1313: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 that sounds amazing -- cannot go now -- but i will see if i can make it in Spring 😺😺
	10:20am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "dedication" by "mary perrin" One of my favorite Numero comps-- so lovely and slightly spooky.
	10:23am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 Neat! I may check that out. It's not far from me.
	10:23am love2laf: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 That's horrible Handy, and can only imagine how hard that is for the people who work so hard to bring some green to the neighbourhood. Really wish the NY Post didn't lead off with a pun, little bit of poor judgement on when to use humour there.
	10:24am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:58 hi love2laf
	10:25am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "hum aur tum yeh khush" by "surendra and wahidan bai" like satyajit ray's films and film music from next decade.
	10:25am Handy Haversack: ↳ love2laf @10:23 Well, the Post. Schlock is sort of as high as their bar gets.
	10:26am Robm: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:03 good that would have really fucked things up in the city
	10:26am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 oh geez -- this is horrifying, we NEED more trees! i am so sorry (are there security cameras anywhere in the areas? or does this jerk deliberately go out of their view?)
	10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:25 weegee with words, but that's a compliment
	10:27am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:24 Hello Robm, hope all is well by you. Here the chipmunks are avidly gathering acorns on the deck, and Erin is galumping from one window to the next in hopes that she can catch one through the glass. @Handy oh I get they're schlock, but you don't have a whole article on the sad and horrible and lead off with a pun
	10:27am Stanley: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 Handy - Sorry to hear that. Then we had THIS: www.theguardian.com...
	10:27am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:23 that is the posts MO, i don’t like it too
	10:28am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:26 The new buildings are festooned with cameras! So I guess Amazon knows whodunit, but the rest of us don't. The cops only go after graffiti and protesters these days, though, so there's no hope in getting them to find that footage.
	10:29am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:27 tell erin good luck with that trying to catch them, enjoying the nice weather before it all goes to hell over the weekend
	10:29am Handy Haversack: ↳ Stanley @10:27 I know! I had read those stories. Same death-loving mindset.
	10:30am love2laf: Somewhere I have the headline of a local paper to a suburb I lived in that said "Pet Turkey Gunned Down, Foul Play Suspected"
	10:30am Robm: ↳ Stanley @10:27 stanley think they caught the guy
	10:30am slugluv1313: ↳ Stanley @10:27 hi Stanley! ugh, yes, i read about that -- equally horrifying! (& the humans who are saying, "It's just a tree" etc. are beyond infuriating 🤬🤬)
	10:31am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:30 groaner that is a sick headline @Slugluv people suck
	10:33am TDK60: ↳ Stanley @10:27 Hiya Stanley. !Ouch! That hurts. Maybe, if found, the violator could be assigned a new job, planting trees for the rest of their natural life? I know, so cruel I am.
	10:34am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "window over the bay" by "Vashti Bunyan" I love this. Wonderful tunes. Hi Trouble, hi everybody! I love that art too, at the top of the playlist.
	10:34am JReganK: ↳ Stanley @10:27 That sucks! Not a spontaneous act of vandalism. That was done by a professional
	10:34am love2laf: ↳ TDK60 @10:33 Good punishment, send them here, in May, in blackfly season.
	10:35am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:34 Hola, Marie! How's Chicago, today?
	10:35am Webhamster Henry: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 It's also O+ weekend in Kingston, so visitors could be really busy.
	10:36am slugluv1313: ↳ love2laf @10:30 how awful -- like they think that is funny?!? poor turkey reminds of this veterinarian -- in Texas, i think? -- proudly holding up the dead body of an Orange Tabby cat who she had murdered with a crossbow -- her caption was something like, "nothing beats killing a feral cat" -- but, the cat was not feral at all (and even if he was, still inexcusable) -- but someone's beloved family cat -- i believe that the vet eventually lost her license -- but no jail time, unfortunately
	10:37am unpopularfred: A 3fer - Karin Krog, Carla Bley IIda Lupino
	10:38am Marie in Queens: Hey, is this song about WFMU?
	10:41am Handy Haversack: Damn, and someone tossed a Molotov cocktail into the Mississippi Records shop in Portland?! We are why we can't have nice things.
	10:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:36 years ago, a rather forbidding baseball player, a pitcher who threw very hard killed a bird with a pitch and people thought it was funny, he came out at a news conference and strongly opined that he didn't think it was funny. rather unexpected in sports context
	10:43am slugluv1313: ↳ Zip7 @9:50 hello Zip7! yes, just sent you an email 😺😺
	10:43am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "les voyages" by "jeanne moreau" God, I love this. I can understand some of the words... life as voyage, oui, a moi @)
	10:47am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" COME THRU BETTY
	10:48am Karl: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" Hot damn!
	10:48am rx "rexy" scabin: Betty Davis is what I needed to hear. Thank you.
	10:48am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" light in the attic just restocked most of their catalog of her records (minus nasty gal for an unknown reason) and they just reissued Hangin' Out in Hollywood!!!!
	10:48am love2laf: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" Volume up! Getting down with Betty!
	10:49am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:42 hi Tom! i had not heard that! but yes, unexpected -- but i am so grateful that he did that (unlike these idiot soccer players a few years back, an owl had somehow flown and landed on the field -- big tough guy soccer player kicked the poor bird, and everyone behaving like it was funny -- poor owl was taken to a vet, iirc -- but unfortunately died from their injuries)
	10:49am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @10:35 Hey JRK (I hesitate to use that abbrev. @) ). It's nice--cloudy and warm. How about in your environs? Where do you live again?
	10:50am AYAYRON: This Yarborough is the shiz. Great set!
	10:50am slugluv1313: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" BETTY DAVIS!!! ❤️🔥
	10:51am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dreamyandseedy @10:48 i believe hangin' has 'the quintessence of hip' a funny song that describes everything hip and then has the lyric 'bob dylan said so'
	10:51am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" This could almost be an outtake from "Penis Envy" by Crass!
	10:51am Paprika: Ah Betty.
	10:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" Just about to finish reading ASSATA, the autobiography of Assata Shakur.
	10:52am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:49 I'm in Manchester, NJ. The weather's warm and sunny with moderate humidity. Perfect for early October
	10:53am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:49 hi slug, that's a shame, and bird was probably just disoriented, scared
	10:54am Trouble: camille: aalbc.com...
	10:54am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Meetings getting in the way of listening to the show this morning. Grrr.
	10:54am MrDeb: Totes agree with Ayayron. Dooooope!
	10:55am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @10:52 sounds lovely. Hopefully you can spend some quality time outside
	10:56am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:41 Handy, about Miss. Rec. in PDX: Merde! I used to frequent that fine slab joint. One of the better record stores I'd been to. Mostly used LPs. They used to have sign over their door: "Love Over Gold."
	10:56am βrian: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" I believe I heard a reference to a Bill Cosby record for kids.
	10:57am PKNY: ↳ Song: "super good ( answer to super bad) parts 1+2" by "... Every single musician on this track is equally super bad and super good.
	10:57am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:55 But, then I wouldn't be on the message board! :(
	10:57am StringOFperils: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:49 It's what happens when people adopt wearing uniforms and banding together in groups that stand in opposition to other groups, and cheering, and chanting, and submitting to larger frenzy. And it's huge money. It's when it spreads right off the playing field that things get owly for everyone.
	10:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ TDK60 @10:56 I'll forward you the newsletter where the owner gets into what happened.
	10:58am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:55 I'm just a dilemma magnet these days!
	10:58am TDK60: ↳ StringOFperils @10:57 Morning Slugluv and StringO: Still, no excuse. It's not cricket.
	10:58am Mick: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" went to clicky star camille and saw it was pre-clicked. moving pretty slowly today, but very glad to be here!
	10:59am dreamyandseedy: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:51 yes! i'm so excited to hear it, only ever heard a terrible bootleg version, and to read the liner notes, it's a somewhat different sound than her other albums
	10:59am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:57 The good news being a massive show of support from local and far-flung community to get everything that wasn't destroyed cleaned up and back in action.
	11:00am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:59 HH: I'll look forward to seeing, thanks.
	11:00am Phin The Hyooman: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" Just tuned in towards the end of this song, and if this sets the tone for today's set... With Vicki Anderson right after, seems so. HELLZ YEAH!
	11:00am AYAYRON: I want to buy everything I’ve heard in the last 20 minutes
	11:01am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Heyo. Tardy to the party, today started off with a bang. Greets to all!
	11:01am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dreamyandseedy @10:59 yes it is different, maybe a little less funk, more rock ,but interesting ...iirc
	11:01am love2laf: ↳ AYAYRON @11:00 Agreed this whole set is on fire!
	11:02am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:01 Heyo, great meeting you last night! A little sleepy today but glad I got out!
	11:02am rx "rexy" scabin: @AYAYRON I have done that before.
	11:03am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:52 I have that one on my TBR list. Also WTF RE tree killers? People absolutely suck.
	11:03am Virginia: This whole set! Esp. Camille Yarborough! Wow.
	11:03am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:02 yes, i'm all chuffed to see you on the board today
	11:03am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" AWESOME cover!!!
	11:04am JReganK: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" Surpasses the original
	11:04am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:03 Ditto! I hope the trip home wasn't too bad RE subways!
	11:04am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:53 yes! the Barn Owl was an unofficial mascot of the opposing team -- flew on to the field, and was (accidentally) injured by a strike -- he was disoriented, and the referee was clearing the field -- that is when this jerk deliberately kicked the owl
	11:05am Hughie Considine: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" Glorious!
	11:05am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 What a jerkoff
	11:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:04 no, bus was right at terminal and made it back much quicker than going, lucked out
	11:06am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 Wait, what?
	11:06am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:06 Awesome!
	11:07am StringOFperils: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 Well, at least Nature's calling in that debt. Owl for the win.
	11:07am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 it's basically pathological behavior, but the mainstream
	11:08am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 Bingo!
	11:08am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:05 right? no jail time either -- just a fine and suspension from a couple of games (and i always gotta wonder -- would everyone think it so funny if the player did that to an injured human child?)
	11:10am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 true -- that is how/why WFMU and you all are true solace 😺😺
	11:10am TDK60: The Owl Kicker. I could write a song. The owl kicker would face an imaginary tribunal of eminent Druids, New Age Travelers, and Wiccans, to query and judge the owl kicker before their banishment from the realm. Maybe?
	11:10am rx "rexy" scabin: Good bye, Trouble and Everyone. It is time to push the rock up the hill.
	11:10am Hughie Considine: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 Guided By Voices have "Kicker of Elves" -- and Owls totally works.
	11:11am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 Or have them transformed into tiny vermin to be devoured by the owls that hang out in the pocket park across from my apartment and/or the big guy that sometimes uses my AC as a night-time hunting perch facing onto my building concrete courtyard/dead appliance graveyard.
	11:11am slugluv1313: ↳ rx "rexy" scabin @11:10 bye rx, take care!
	11:11am LT: Pt 2 next week of all the music you didn’t get to play today!! Todays program has been so great
	11:12am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 Unfortunately pathological behavior IS the mainstream in many, many parts of American society.
	11:12am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:11 owls in the city... did not know
	11:13am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:08 The irony in the U.S. is that injuring an animal would have probably caused a riot. Where as a person would have resulted in indifference
	11:13am love2laf: ↳ rx "rexy" scabin @11:10 Sounds like a tough rock, pro tip, don't let it roll back down the hill.
	11:13am JReganK: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 The world could use more Druids
	11:14am slugluv1313: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 oh, i would be much more vicious (as with the cat murdering vet, and the tree murderers too!) -- but, i will keep those evil thoughts to myself 😾👿
	11:14am StringOFperils: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:12 In all fairness to the United States, pathological behaviour is blooming all over the planet's surface. It's not pretty. But the USA is not alone on that slippery slope.
	11:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:12 yes, it is scary when you think about it, i try not to think about it in order to function
	11:15am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:14 That vet should have been shot. I'll do it
	11:15am Marie in Queens: at one point, I thought about posting a reward for information about what seemed like someone who was hurting cats in Queens
	11:16am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "i'm not havin it" by "MC Lyte & Positive K" Brought me out for this one. Good greetings, good people.
	11:16am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 People like that bring out my darker nature
	11:16am Marie in Queens: I think a lot of stuff is done by teens--"crazy" teens @)
	11:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 nature as the 'other'
	11:17am Jeezuseffinchrist: ↳ Song: "i'm not havin it" by "MC Lyte & Positive K" hooooo feeling it lol, same
	11:18am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:13 not really -- most "animal cruelty" only gets fines, community service, etc. (not saying that i want the same for human cruelty! abuse/murder of anyone is just evil)
	11:18am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:16 When I lived in the city. I witnessed a lot psychopathic behavior
	11:19am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 You should; on the Astoria Reddit there was in fact a report of one of the "usual" spay and release kitties being killed and left in a prominent place.
	11:19am slugluv1313: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 ugh -- thank you! (i know people who do cat rescue in Queens, an overabundance of abused cats -- dogs too)
	11:20am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:18 Exactly! In many cases, the human on human cruelty isn't properly prosecuted either
	11:20am tom tom the pipers son: you can look at these acts against animals, trees as a psychotic internalization of the forces behind climate change
	11:20am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:18 Yeah, the people who do this stuff are sick in one way or another
	11:21am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:20 Hi, Tom. Can you be more specific
	11:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "you rented a space" by "cristina" Cristina!
	11:21am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 Yup, not just Central Park -- there are at least 2 confirmed varieties just in the tiny little park near me. The first time one hooted on my AC I was startled. I VERY quietly peeked under the blinds to see what it was and yep an owl. So quiet -- they are so big but you NEVER hear them land or take off -- but they hoot to basically say "this is MY rat and mouse infested drainage courtyard, find yer own, kid."
	11:21am Peter in SEA: Bonjour Trouble and Thursday people! That Beverly Bailey: Pow! I like that Paula Rego drawing on the playlist page much more than her paintings! ;-)
	11:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:21 just nature as the 'other'
	11:22am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:20 I remember coming across a cat that was tortured to death. I'll never forget it
	11:22am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:20 Truth to this.
	11:22am Mike W.: more screencaps per playlist per second than any other program
	11:22am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:21 ha!
	11:22am Marie in Queens: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:19 Hey, I know a lovely English lady, Linda, who does cat rescue in Jackson Heights--really sweet. I had her visit my cat whenever I went away (I paid her). And another really nice lady in my building who fed a group of strays every (!) night. I told her she has great cat karma and that has to count for something
	11:23am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 You mean as an adversary?
	11:23am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:22 yeah, I have to avoid things like that because they haunt me. I could never be a vet
	11:23am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:23 as alien to us humans
	11:23am Zip7: A friend in New Jersey had a groundhog living in his yard that was causing havoc. He trapped it and released it out in the country. It was back two weeks later, and he let it stay -- figured it had as much a right to be there as he did.
	11:24am StringOFperils: A lot of social pressures on people in a world with too many people. People who lack education, adequate housing, enough food to eat, and now NEWS. Information- starved, confused, and frightened...and consequently useful to EVIL
	11:24am Karl: ↳ Song: "you rented a space" by "cristina" Cristina forever
	11:24am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:24 agree
	11:25am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:21 oh wow! jealous 🦉🦉 please give all of them my love cannot recall ever seeing an owl myself -- not even when i was growing up in "the sticks"
	11:25am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:23 I'm not sure if I could control myself if I ever got involved with animal rescue. All torturers of animals are sick cowards deserving swift justice
	11:25am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: My super puts out food and a water dish for a few of "our" local strays in said courtyard -- our most usual visitor is a calico cat that also sometimes lives at the Key Food further down 30th Avenue. I know that this particular Key Food also has at least two Basement Cats; another calico and a black cat that live in the downstairs loading area. The loading staff are VERY protective of those cats. Inside the store, if they have the internal loading doors open, you sometimes see eyes glowing out at you. Outside, when they are loading the really heavy stuff down the roller slide, the two cats will come out and sit at the top of the palettes until the giant slidy things are done going down.
	11:27am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 Do you mean we can't relate to nature?
	11:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:27 hostile to it...
	11:28am TDK60: Morning Threemoons: Earlier this morn I stopped into a local grocery. They have a cat who hangs by the front door. I said hello (= putting hand near cat face) and they play attacked me. No scratches. That feline likes me I suppose.
	11:28am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:25 Oh yes, I consider my AC Owl a sort of spirit animal -- it started showing up (or I first discovered it) over Mom's last winter; it hooted late one Sunday after I got back from seeing her. If you think about it, an owl having a perfect perch to see a monochrome area where rodents skitter is sort of an ideal owl setup.
	11:28am tom tom the pipers son: erase you like a drawing
	11:28am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:25 They're everywhere down here. The best is when they talk to each other
	11:28am Marie in Queens: ESG!!!!!!!!
	11:28am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ TDK60 @11:28 I LOVE grocery/bodega cats.
	11:29am Philip: right on. ESG
	11:29am Ken From Hyde Park: On morning or evening walks, I sometimes hear a pair of owls hooting to each other. 🦉
	11:29am slugluv1313: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:22 that is wonderful! Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City -- lots of local cat rescue groups (nothing really here in Hoboken right now) and yes, a lot of us do TNR, tend to local colonies, do cat sitting, etc. 😺😺
	11:29am Philip: read you, write you, ERASE YOU
	11:30am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:27 True. We always fear what we don't understand. Education has always been the key.
	11:30am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:28 We adopted one, Lulu (RIP). She was wonderful. Looks very much like the cat on Trouble's playlists page. I couldn't look at that page for a long while after Lulu died.
	11:31am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:28 Total attitude!
	11:31am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 A calico?
	11:32am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:31 Pure white. Sorry, by "one," I meant "a bodega cat."
	11:32am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:25 Yeah, in the moment, I would prolly "see red" and let loose, but I do think it is better, ideally, to not harm others. (I have seen my violent tendencies crop up, especially when I rode my bike everywhere.) Anger overrides the rational.
	11:32am slugluv1313: ↳ Zip7 @11:23 awww that is so sweet -- he found his way "home" (yes they can be "destructive" -- but i have read of people who have figured out how to co-exist)
	11:32am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:32 Aaah OK. IIRC most all white cats are deaf, or is that just a common misconception?
	11:33am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:32 Well, it's common enough that our vet tested her for it, but Lulu could hear just fine. She was perfect.
	11:33am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:32 Well said.
	11:34am dotpattern: The stray that visits me in Asbury Park got in a fight with, what must be a raccoon. Lots of strays here are sans tail. I wish it would let me attend to it's obvious damage but never lets me approach.
	11:34am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:33 Awwwwwwwwww
	11:34am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:25 awww -- the Basement Cats supervising?!
	11:35am StringOFperils: ↳ dotpattern @11:34 That kind of damage is often from cars too
	11:36am Marie in Queens: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:29 Yeah, it's a wonderful, beautiful thing. And a nice counter to all the "ugly." I want to give money to support local cat/dog rescue places
	11:37am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Zip7 @11:23 Ages ago before Mom sold her house, we had an issue with one that for some reason REALLY only wanted to dig under our really old, lovely Japanese cutleaf maple. We were right up against a state park. So, Mom thought to just dump some cat poop into the basketball-size burrow hole it left (she had her own cat for a long time and then "cat-sat" for my brother while he moved around Asia). Worked like a charm; predator poop scared it away.
	11:37am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:28 that is wonderful -- so cool!
	11:38am dotpattern: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:36 Petco often has rescue cats and dogs, and they need volunteers and temporary foster parents.
	11:39am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:34 Yup, they know enough that when the outdoor load slide comes out, it means that whole palettes of really REALLY dangerous and heavy stuff is about to come barreling down. They find a place outside and look, one at at time, as stuff is hauled off of trucks and pushed down. The loading staff gives them skritches. Then they run back down the second that they pull the loading roller ramp away.
	11:39am JReganK: ↳ dotpattern @11:34 Raccoons are formidable. Luckily, the cat colony, raccoon family and skunks at my place get along or there would be a lot more vet visits and skunk episodes around here
	11:40am Marie in Queens: ↳ dotpattern @11:38 Oh, cool, thanks! I like your username
	11:40am Philip: such a vibe this morn. dig it!
	11:41am Marie in Queens: It helps me to remember that the bad, the hurting of innocent creatures, is truly aberrant, unusual behavior. the vast vast majority of people would never do that. It makes the news cuz it's unusual.
	11:41am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ JReganK @11:39 My Mom's cat never had an issue with any other mammals in the area, but he DID get in with it with the Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake that lived under the front steps. He got bitten up pretty bad but actually survived after a few days of recovery and not going outside for a bit
	11:41am Handy Haversack: ↳ JReganK @11:39 There's a little stretch along the shores of Newtown Creek in Long Island City where a cat colony has made a mutual-defense pact with some Canada geese. They seem to guard each other's young from rats, raccoons, etc. There are times in the spring when you can see kittens and goslings hanging out together. It is even more ridiculous than it sounds. We call it Cat Goose Beach.
	11:42am slugluv1313: ↳ dotpattern @11:38 true -- rescue groups, ideally, want to find permanent homes for the dogs, cats, rabbits, whoever -- but providing temporary foster care is a genuine life saver
	11:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "truly" by "Marcia Griffiths" repurposing 'here comes the bride' funny
	11:42am Marie in Queens: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 I love it, lol
	11:43am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 OK this sounds both adorable and odd, which means I now must see this. Canadian Geese are tremendously aggressive when it comes to their young.
	11:43am love2laf: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 Thank you for this, I needed a cute happy story today.
	11:44am StringOFperils: en.wikipedia.org...
	11:44am Handy Haversack: Canada geese goslings when they get past the golden-fuzzball stage and hit the lanky-gray teenage phase are also just the clearest proof ever that birds are dinosaurs. Just straight-up dinosaurs, full stop.
	11:44am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:41 Amazing how often the dangers are right under our noses. We've had some toxin issues around here from time to time. Cats are pretty resilient
	11:45am miketp: heavy heavy song selections.archiveville.hi trouble & friends
	11:45am StringOFperils: Canada geese are TOTALLY dinosaurs. Right down to the toothed beak
	11:46am JReganK: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 Wow! I have yet to see a natural arrangement that symbiotic
	11:46am chresti: Last time I counted, there were 6 cats at our front porch waiting for breakfast. 3 of them are regular customers, the others seem tame and I am afraid they were abandoned when their owners moved or passed away
	11:47am northguineahills: nice to wake to lovers rock
	11:47am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:47 Hey ngh how is your pre-move visit going?
	11:47am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:47 How was the show, ngh?
	11:47am Marie in Queens: ↳ chresti @11:46 aw, you guys feed em every morning?
	11:48am northguineahills: fantabulous!
	11:48am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:47 i thought it went pretty nice.
	11:48am Marie in Queens: ↳ northguineahills @11:48 nice to hear! You deserve it
	11:48am chresti: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:47 Yes, and evening!
	11:49am JReganK: ↳ StringOFperils @11:45 Birds are so mis categorized and under estimated. Take how we underestimated their intelligence
	11:49am Marie in Queens: ↳ chresti @11:48 sweet!
	11:49am tom tom the pipers son: totally random, but peter zumthor''s lacma museum in times this morning. looking like an airport terminal, cross between templehof airport and saarinen's twa termal, to me...
	11:49am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ chresti @11:46 I have a good friend in Poughkeepsie who was adopted by two different cats. One was a long time stray who just started following her whenever she walked her beagle and eventually realized that she was OK. Her other cat was literally abandoned when its owner moved and some guy was converting the house to an Air BnB. My friend knew the house, and brought the cat back, and the guy was like "oh they just let her go. You can have her." She was immediately adopted on the spot and was so, so happy to be back in a house after a week of wandering around during the winter.
	11:50am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ northguineahills @11:48 Heyo! Great show last night and great meeting you and other WFMU Fam!
	11:50am tom tom the pipers son: good morning, ngh!
	11:50am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:41 WOW! growing up, my Mom's favorite birds were the Mockingbirds -- UNFORTUNATELY they were my first cat Fuzzy's favorite too -- then again, they WOULD dive bomb him when he was dashing across the driveway! they were not as difficult to catch as the Bluejays, but still a challenge -- and of course Fuzzy would try to bring his catch into the house, to show my Mom that he was a great hunter -- my Mom was not amused at all
	11:51am chresti: ↳ JReganK @11:49 I'm pals with a raven couple at work.
	11:51am dotpattern: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:40 Thanks! Check out Camp Happy Tails NYC Rescue in Flushing (when you go to the FMU record fair!)
	11:51am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "you and your smiling face" by "brown sugar" love this
	11:51am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 baby cats and baby geese! so freaking adorable!!!
	11:51am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:49 Amazes me how some people can't bond with a pet
	11:52am Zip7: ↳ JReganK @11:49 Yeah, I learned relatively recently that intelligence is based on brain size as a proportion of body mass. Birds are really smart! Imagine how witless a brontosaurus must have been
	11:52am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:50 Yeah, my Mom's cat was always bringing her "presents." He had the Life of Riley of Cats -- in the AM he got cuddles and breakfast, then he'd ask to be let out. Spend the day prowling around a wooded area, then home to get brushed and checked for ticks and dinner, and then back into his cat bed to supervise my Mom grading papers in her office.
	11:53am JReganK: ↳ chresti @11:51 They're said to be as smart as a 12 year old human
	11:53am Trouble: thanks for sitting in today! an interesting book for some who love reggae : safiaya sinclair "how to say babylon", a memoir about growing up in a rastafari family. Heard her speak on fresh air yesterday, sounds interesting
	11:53am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ JReganK @11:53 And some birds are SUPER smart -- think crows and other corvids like ravens.
	11:54am TDK60: Thanks, DJ T!
	11:54am JReganK: ↳ Zip7 @11:52 Yeah. All basic reptilian brain
	11:54am northguineahills: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:50 yeeah, it was superbly awesome to meet you last night!
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: And thanks for this amazing set!!!!
	11:54am StringOFperils: ↳ JReganK @11:53 A lot of vocal language with ravens. It's almost frightening to realize how wise they are.
	11:54am love2laf: ↳ Trouble @11:53 Thank you Trouble, amazing 3 hours of sounds today. Thank you troubled friends for the company.
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ northguineahills @11:54 Likewise! Good luck! It will all work out in the end; the WFMU Fam has your back!
	11:55am slugluv1313: ↳ chresti @11:46 awwww and they know where the FOOD is (but yes, agreed -- a lot of "stray" cats are abandoned house cats -- horrible) thank you for keeping them fed!
	11:55am bradford: Many thanks, Trouble
	11:55am tom tom the pipers son: t y trouble... all...nice chat
	11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Walk good!
	11:55am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:53 They're the best. It's time for their biannual meetings down here
	11:55am Handy Haversack: Oh, dang, it got late! Thanks, Trouble! Fantastic. Stay Troubled, everyone!
	11:56am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:55 Yup and much more interesting than the 200 page deposition I'm supposed to be reading now....
	11:56am northguineahills: thanks, trouble!
	11:56am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:56 ha ha
	11:56am TDK60: Oh, I look forward to Josh MacP. coming with his Italian rad records...
	11:56am Charles in Chicago: Oops, I missed the whole show! (but I had a nice breakfast). I'll try again next week.
	11:56am JReganK: ↳ StringOFperils @11:54 Time to watch "The Birds" again!
	11:57am Zip7: Thanks for another stellar show, Trouble! And hope all you modernists have a good weekend
	11:57am Marie in Queens: Thanks, Trouble, truly fantastic show. Love the womens!
	11:57am dreamyandseedy: thanks Trouble!
	11:58am StringOFperils: Thank you for all the music!
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Oh, right, no Continental Subway today. Dang it.
	11:58am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:57 A bientôt, Marie!
	11:58am slugluv1313: phenomenal show, as always -- thanks so much, Trouble!
	11:58am JReganK: Thnx, Trouble
	11:58am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:58 HH: Learn that "Dang it" in Esperanto, eh?
	11:59am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:58 merci! a vous, aussi!
	12:01pm chresti: Thanks Trouble!

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October 5, 2023: 'A Vindication of the Rights of Woman'

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Lori Goldston	cold air "cold air" by "Lori Goldston"	high & low	sofaburn records			*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Catherine Christer Hennix	A1 "A1" by "Catherine Christer Hennix"	solo for tamburium	blank form editions			*	0:12:42 (Pop-up)
mireille darc	Hélicoptère "Hélicoptère" by "mireille darc"	paris in the spring: bob stanley/pete wiggs present v/a					0:18:25 (Pop-up)
kristen nogues	marc' h gouez "marc' h gouez" by "kristen nogues"	marc'h gouez	souffle continu			*	0:20:52 (Pop-up)
gia margaret	city song "city song" by "gia margaret"	romantic piano	Jagjaguwar			*	0:25:40 (Pop-up)
julia holter	minerals "minerals" by "julia holter"	4 Women No Cry Vol. 3					0:28:46 (Pop-up)

Peaking Lights	hey sparrow "hey sparrow" by "Peaking Lights"	936					0:38:04 (Pop-up)
bernice	one garden "one garden" by "bernice"	Puff: In the Air Without a Shape					0:41:38 (Pop-up)
laurie spiegel	the unquestioned answer	the expanding universe					0:45:15 (Pop-up)
angela davis	targeting women "targeting women" by "angela davis"	the prison industrial complex			1997 recorded at colorado college		0:51:20 (Pop-up)
fursaxa	karma "karma" by "fursaxa"	Lepidoptera					0:53:11 (Pop-up)
sibylle baier	forget about "forget about" by "sibylle baier"	colour green					0:56:44 (Pop-up)
kalia vandever	stillness in hand "stillness in hand" by "kalia vandever"	we fell in turn	Akp			*	0:59:11 (Pop-up)

blossom dearie	napolean "napolean" by "blossom dearie"	six classic records					1:08:04 (Pop-up)
dorothy ashby	yesterdays "yesterdays" by "dorothy ashby"	in a minor groove					1:11:44 (Pop-up)
jackie de shannon	walking after midnight	the sherry lee show	sundazed music				1:16:08 (Pop-up)
mary perrin	dedication "dedication" by "mary perrin"	Wayfaring Strangers: Ladies From the Canyon (V/A)					1:18:35 (Pop-up)
surendra and wahidan bai	hum aur tum yeh khush	evergreen hits from old films			1940		1:22:15 (Pop-up)
nancy lesh	dhrupad in jhaptal "dhrupad in jhaptal" by "nancy lesh"	nancy lesh cello					1:25:27 (Pop-up)
Vashti Bunyan	window over the bay	just another diamond day					1:31:24 (Pop-up)
karin krog	break of day in molde "break of day in molde" by "karin krog"	break of day					1:33:04 (Pop-up)
brenda holloway	every little bit hurts	the very best of					1:40:07 (Pop-up)
jeanne moreau	les voyages "les voyages" by "jeanne moreau"	jeanne					1:41:00 (Pop-up)
maryrene	Cette fille n'est rien pour lui	Femmes De Paris, Vol.3					1:44:00 (Pop-up)
betty davis	walkin up the road "walkin up the road" by "betty davis"	betty davis					1:46:11 (Pop-up)
camille yarbrough	all hid "all hid" by "camille yarbrough"	Black & Proud Vol.1- The Soul Of The Black Panther Era					1:48:57 (Pop-up)
Vicki Anderson	super good ( answer to super bad) parts 1+2	James Brown's Original Funky Divas					1:54:50 (Pop-up)
P.P. Arnold	speak to me "speak to me" by "P.P. Arnold"	the best of P P Arnold					2:00:21 (Pop-up)
dawn chorus and the blue tits	teenage kicks	Sharon Signs To Cherry Red: Independent Women 1979–1985					2:02:31 (Pop-up)

doris	Did You Give The World Some Love Today Baby?	Did You Give The World Some Love Today Baby?	mr bongo	1970/2022?			2:09:03 (Pop-up)
MC Lyte & Positive K	i'm not havin it	The First Priority Music Family Basement Flavor					2:12:44 (Pop-up)
beverly bailey	i was in love "i was in love" by "beverly bailey"	The Ladies At Joe Gibbs (V/A)					2:16:10 (Pop-up)
cristina	you rented a space "you rented a space" by "cristina"	sleep it off promo					2:20:18 (Pop-up)
latisha	i'm every woman "i'm every woman" by "latisha"	Hustle! Reggae Disco - Kingston-London-New York					2:23:47 (Pop-up)
ESG	erase you "erase you" by "ESG"						2:27:09 (Pop-up)

love joys	sweet feelings "sweet feelings" by "love joys"	reggae goodies vol 2 wackies					2:36:20 (Pop-up)
Marcia Griffiths	truly "truly" by "Marcia Griffiths"	studio one lovers rock v/a					2:38:58 (Pop-up)
maxine harvey	gimme a sign "gimme a sign" by "maxine harvey"	this is lovers rock v/a					2:41:55 (Pop-up)
marie pierre	nothing gained ( from loving you)	love affair					2:45:35 (Pop-up)
brown sugar	you and your smiling face	I'm In Love With A Dreadlocks (Brown Sugar And The Birth Of Lovers Rock 1977-80)					2:48:33 (Pop-up)
the tonettes	i'll give it to you "i'll give it to you" by "the tonettes"	studio one women					2:51:41 (Pop-up)

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	9:00am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled. Recently did the production editing on a book related to the title of today's episode: cup.columbia.edu...
	9:00am bradford: Good morning Trouble & all!
	9:00am dreamyandseedy: good morning Trouble and all!
	9:00am Robm: good morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
	9:02am kev: Hi
	9:02am Strandlund: Trouble is my middle name...
	9:02am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Super curious to see what a Wollstonecraft-themed Thursday wil bring, Trouble. Hello troublemakers.
	9:04am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:02 Some sort of new colossus?
	9:04am Marley P. Dogg: Morning troublers
	9:04am Karl: ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Thought this was Arthur Russell for sure. This is great!
	9:04am Zip7: Good mornng, Troubled modernists! Good soundtrack for a foggy mornng in the Hudson Valley . . .
	9:05am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Beautiful start to the show. I'm heading out for a run and will gladly take Lori and her cello along. I'm with Karl--I thought it was AR.
	9:05am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:04 The Trouble with Modern Girls?
	9:05am alan the painter: Good Morning Trouble, thank you for easing me into my moving day, biggest move to date, a new studio a mile away.
	9:06am Trouble: goood morning october feeling like september
	9:06am Clincher16": Good morning Trouble and Troubled. Well, I'm just a modern guy....
	9:06am Philip: This is a perfect start for me. Thx. Mornin' troublers
	9:07am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ alan the painter @9:05 Congrats on the new studio Alan!
	9:08am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "cold air" by "Lori Goldston" Was looking for the artist on Bandcamp and think it's Goldston not Goldstein? Either way I'm hooked.
	9:08am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Trouble @9:06 Feeling like August
	9:08am Handy Haversack: ↳ Marley P. Dogg @9:04 Hey, Marley! Are you coming across the rivers for Record Fair?
	9:09am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:08 I am! And very excited for it! Not sure which day yet. Which day are you guys going?
	9:09am kevlicki: Morning trouble and all!
	9:10am adampsyche: troubling thursday mornings
	9:10am Clincher16": ↳ Handy Haversack @9:00 Quite the enlightening coincidence. Thanks Handy!
	9:10am Handy Haversack: ↳ Marley P. Dogg @9:09 I'm volunteering both days, 12:30-4. K8 joins me Sunday. We'll probably stick around later on Sunday than I will on Sat. since we're seeing Worriers at the Broadway on Sat. night.
	9:11am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:10 But I'll probably show up an hour early on Sat. so I can take in the sights.
	9:13am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all!
	9:13am slugluv1313: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:08 hi Bryan! Lori Goldston who was a guest with Kendra recently? also collaborator with Laura Cannell?
	9:14am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:11 Nice! I’ll see you there!
	9:15am slugluv1313: good morning, Trouble and Troubles! gotta get back to work here, but happy to be listening with you all 😺😺
	9:16am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln: sounds like trouble… hi all
	9:16am slugluv1313: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:13 (i was wondering the same!)
	9:16am chresti: Morning Trouble and troubled!
	9:16am Irene: Good morning Trouble! Enjoying your usual gentle start to the day.
	9:16am TDK60: Bonjour presenter DJ Trouble and all the Thursday Throng.
	9:16am Trouble: hah! @ handy: i just listened to a podcast called lost ladies of lit where that author was speaking about her new book and Mary. that is how today's show came about...
	9:17am Katharsis: Trouble and troubled hello hello
	9:18am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:16 Just checked the podcast page -- that's our author!
	9:19am slugluv1313: ↳ Song: "A1" by "Catherine Christer Hennix" Catherine Christer Hennix 😻😻 i totally lucked out, was able to see her through Blank Forms -- so mesmerizing, you forgot about the world outside (i feel so blessed)
	9:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:16 I see they have an episode on Sylvia Townsend Warner. I thought Summer Will Show was an excellent book. Haven't read Lolly Willowes yet. I just can't fit podcasts into my deliciously decadent urban lifestyle choices. When I listen to something someone else is putting out there, it's FMU. When I commute, I read.
	9:23am Trouble: @ handylolly willowes is amazing!!! i just listened to that show also, STW was a titan!
	9:25am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @9:23 We should swap Lolly Wilowes for Summer Will Show! We weren't able to get to the used bookstores in Michigan this year, which hurt.
	9:36am SSS: God! Your right! I'll eat a pumpkin pie, but that flavoring belongs NO where else!!
	9:37am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble and spicy pumpkins! 🎃
	9:39am tenacious_bird_of_prey: Thanks for sharing the podcast. My wife is an English High School teacher and this is right in her wheel house. She'll love it!
	9:39am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:21 putting Summer Will Show on my list!
	9:41am TDK60: Wollstonecraft, Godwin, the Shelleys. What a crowd. They stepped, pushed further for us. Now, we should take steps also.
	9:41am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:00 hi Handy! and thank you! (& totally agree re: podcasts! would love to listen to some -- but when?!? and same here -- i read books when i am commuting too!)
	9:44am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: Whoa Bernice…this is hitting my ear in the right way
	9:44am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:41 I don't have a spyphone and really dislike having headphones on out in the world anyway -- I want to be able to hear what's going on around me.
	9:46am Trouble: @honest bernardo... they are super, have a couple of releases, hailing from toronto
	9:48am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:05 Called it! :)
	9:48am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ slugluv1313 @9:13 i will go look up that archive! thanks!
	9:49am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 I call that John Caging it.
	9:50am Zip7: If anyone's interested, I put together a 13-page outline looking at the development of the "advanced capitalist state," how neoliberalism took over in the late '70s, and what's next. I did it for the guys at Wallkill Correctional, but if anyone's interested, PM me at zipperhead7@gmail.com and I'll send you a copy.
	9:51am βrian: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 Yes, no pods/headphones unless one's butt is stationary.
	9:51am Trouble: that sounds fabulous@zip7. I'm in!! gracias!!
	9:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @9:50 In! E-mail sent!
	9:53am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:49 Just got a rush of deja vu. We have had this conversation before I think.
	9:53am common: hello trouble, all
	9:53am <3: what year is this from?
	9:55am Trouble: 1997
	9:56am Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:53 But it may just be me repeating myself. I searched comments and found this wfmu.org...
	9:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @9:56 It's timeless advice!
	9:58am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble, people...
	9:58am love2laf: Good morning Trouble, your sets are helping me to get through the morning, much appreciated. Hello Troubled friends, glad to see the talk is as forward thinking as always.
	9:59am tom tom the pipers son: paula rego channeling goya...
	10:02am chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:59 With some Degas?
	10:02am βrian: Lays wahzoh!
	10:03am Handy Haversack: Oh, also, in the "FINALLY, Some Good News" category: www.thecity.nyc...
	10:04am βrian: A coalescence, maybe?
	10:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @10:02 don't think it has degas' elegance and degas didn't work in b/w much nor ink wash like goya, reminds me to see manet/degas show at the met...
	10:07am Philip: hm that sounds innaresting
	10:09am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" Blossom Dearie is always the correct choice.
	10:09am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" Blossom! What Henry said!
	10:10am judy from croton: If anyone goes to Field & Supply (great fair with food/music/art) in Kingston this wknd, check out my daughter-in-law's booth, Farewell Frances. Clothes made of vintage fabrics.
	10:10am rx "rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	10:12am duke: ↳ Song: "napolean" by "blossom dearie" blossom dearie always makes me smile
	10:15am Trouble: oooh @ judy: i so want to go but looks like there is too much on the schedule. would have loved to say hi to your d-i-l
	10:16am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:44 same here! i want to hear what is going on, & be aware of my surroundings
	10:18am judy from croton: There's one in Spring, too. Very surreal setting in Kingston
	10:18am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:03 YES! good news is sooo needed -- thank you!
	10:20am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:18 Of course then THIS is happening in my neighborhood: nypost.com...
	10:20am love2laf: @Trouble I love that Alice Coltrane is your safety net, I can think of none better for your back up plan.
	10:20am Zip7: ↳ Song: "walking after midnight" by "jackie de shannon" I think this dates from 1956. She was 15 years old!
	10:20am slugluv1313: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 that sounds amazing -- cannot go now -- but i will see if i can make it in Spring 😺😺
	10:20am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "dedication" by "mary perrin" One of my favorite Numero comps-- so lovely and slightly spooky.
	10:23am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 Neat! I may check that out. It's not far from me.
	10:23am love2laf: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 That's horrible Handy, and can only imagine how hard that is for the people who work so hard to bring some green to the neighbourhood. Really wish the NY Post didn't lead off with a pun, little bit of poor judgement on when to use humour there.
	10:24am Robm: ↳ love2laf @9:58 hi love2laf
	10:25am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "hum aur tum yeh khush" by "surendra and wahidan bai" like satyajit ray's films and film music from next decade.
	10:25am Handy Haversack: ↳ love2laf @10:23 Well, the Post. Schlock is sort of as high as their bar gets.
	10:26am Robm: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:03 good that would have really fucked things up in the city
	10:26am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 oh geez -- this is horrifying, we NEED more trees! i am so sorry (are there security cameras anywhere in the areas? or does this jerk deliberately go out of their view?)
	10:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:25 weegee with words, but that's a compliment
	10:27am love2laf: ↳ Robm @10:24 Hello Robm, hope all is well by you. Here the chipmunks are avidly gathering acorns on the deck, and Erin is galumping from one window to the next in hopes that she can catch one through the glass. @Handy oh I get they're schlock, but you don't have a whole article on the sad and horrible and lead off with a pun
	10:27am Stanley: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:20 Handy - Sorry to hear that. Then we had THIS: www.theguardian.com...
	10:27am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:23 that is the posts MO, i don’t like it too
	10:28am Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:26 The new buildings are festooned with cameras! So I guess Amazon knows whodunit, but the rest of us don't. The cops only go after graffiti and protesters these days, though, so there's no hope in getting them to find that footage.
	10:29am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:27 tell erin good luck with that trying to catch them, enjoying the nice weather before it all goes to hell over the weekend
	10:29am Handy Haversack: ↳ Stanley @10:27 I know! I had read those stories. Same death-loving mindset.
	10:30am love2laf: Somewhere I have the headline of a local paper to a suburb I lived in that said "Pet Turkey Gunned Down, Foul Play Suspected"
	10:30am Robm: ↳ Stanley @10:27 stanley think they caught the guy
	10:30am slugluv1313: ↳ Stanley @10:27 hi Stanley! ugh, yes, i read about that -- equally horrifying! (& the humans who are saying, "It's just a tree" etc. are beyond infuriating 🤬🤬)
	10:31am Robm: ↳ love2laf @10:30 groaner that is a sick headline @Slugluv people suck
	10:33am TDK60: ↳ Stanley @10:27 Hiya Stanley. !Ouch! That hurts. Maybe, if found, the violator could be assigned a new job, planting trees for the rest of their natural life? I know, so cruel I am.
	10:34am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "window over the bay" by "Vashti Bunyan" I love this. Wonderful tunes. Hi Trouble, hi everybody! I love that art too, at the top of the playlist.
	10:34am JReganK: ↳ Stanley @10:27 That sucks! Not a spontaneous act of vandalism. That was done by a professional
	10:34am love2laf: ↳ TDK60 @10:33 Good punishment, send them here, in May, in blackfly season.
	10:35am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:34 Hola, Marie! How's Chicago, today?
	10:35am Webhamster Henry: ↳ judy from croton @10:10 It's also O+ weekend in Kingston, so visitors could be really busy.
	10:36am slugluv1313: ↳ love2laf @10:30 how awful -- like they think that is funny?!? poor turkey reminds of this veterinarian -- in Texas, i think? -- proudly holding up the dead body of an Orange Tabby cat who she had murdered with a crossbow -- her caption was something like, "nothing beats killing a feral cat" -- but, the cat was not feral at all (and even if he was, still inexcusable) -- but someone's beloved family cat -- i believe that the vet eventually lost her license -- but no jail time, unfortunately
	10:37am unpopularfred: A 3fer - Karin Krog, Carla Bley IIda Lupino
	10:38am Marie in Queens: Hey, is this song about WFMU?
	10:41am Handy Haversack: Damn, and someone tossed a Molotov cocktail into the Mississippi Records shop in Portland?! We are why we can't have nice things.
	10:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:36 years ago, a rather forbidding baseball player, a pitcher who threw very hard killed a bird with a pitch and people thought it was funny, he came out at a news conference and strongly opined that he didn't think it was funny. rather unexpected in sports context
	10:43am slugluv1313: ↳ Zip7 @9:50 hello Zip7! yes, just sent you an email 😺😺
	10:43am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "les voyages" by "jeanne moreau" God, I love this. I can understand some of the words... life as voyage, oui, a moi @)
	10:47am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" COME THRU BETTY
	10:48am Karl: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" Hot damn!
	10:48am rx "rexy" scabin: Betty Davis is what I needed to hear. Thank you.
	10:48am dreamyandseedy: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" light in the attic just restocked most of their catalog of her records (minus nasty gal for an unknown reason) and they just reissued Hangin' Out in Hollywood!!!!
	10:48am love2laf: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" Volume up! Getting down with Betty!
	10:49am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:42 hi Tom! i had not heard that! but yes, unexpected -- but i am so grateful that he did that (unlike these idiot soccer players a few years back, an owl had somehow flown and landed on the field -- big tough guy soccer player kicked the poor bird, and everyone behaving like it was funny -- poor owl was taken to a vet, iirc -- but unfortunately died from their injuries)
	10:49am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @10:35 Hey JRK (I hesitate to use that abbrev. @) ). It's nice--cloudy and warm. How about in your environs? Where do you live again?
	10:50am AYAYRON: This Yarborough is the shiz. Great set!
	10:50am slugluv1313: ↳ Song: "walkin up the road" by "betty davis" BETTY DAVIS!!! ❤️🔥
	10:51am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dreamyandseedy @10:48 i believe hangin' has 'the quintessence of hip' a funny song that describes everything hip and then has the lyric 'bob dylan said so'
	10:51am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" This could almost be an outtake from "Penis Envy" by Crass!
	10:51am Paprika: Ah Betty.
	10:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" Just about to finish reading ASSATA, the autobiography of Assata Shakur.
	10:52am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:49 I'm in Manchester, NJ. The weather's warm and sunny with moderate humidity. Perfect for early October
	10:53am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:49 hi slug, that's a shame, and bird was probably just disoriented, scared
	10:54am Trouble: camille: aalbc.com...
	10:54am Listener Bryan (the Professor): Meetings getting in the way of listening to the show this morning. Grrr.
	10:54am MrDeb: Totes agree with Ayayron. Dooooope!
	10:55am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @10:52 sounds lovely. Hopefully you can spend some quality time outside
	10:56am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:41 Handy, about Miss. Rec. in PDX: Merde! I used to frequent that fine slab joint. One of the better record stores I'd been to. Mostly used LPs. They used to have sign over their door: "Love Over Gold."
	10:56am βrian: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" I believe I heard a reference to a Bill Cosby record for kids.
	10:57am PKNY: ↳ Song: "super good ( answer to super bad) parts 1+2" by "... Every single musician on this track is equally super bad and super good.
	10:57am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:55 But, then I wouldn't be on the message board! :(
	10:57am StringOFperils: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:49 It's what happens when people adopt wearing uniforms and banding together in groups that stand in opposition to other groups, and cheering, and chanting, and submitting to larger frenzy. And it's huge money. It's when it spreads right off the playing field that things get owly for everyone.
	10:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ TDK60 @10:56 I'll forward you the newsletter where the owner gets into what happened.
	10:58am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @10:55 I'm just a dilemma magnet these days!
	10:58am TDK60: ↳ StringOFperils @10:57 Morning Slugluv and StringO: Still, no excuse. It's not cricket.
	10:58am Mick: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" went to clicky star camille and saw it was pre-clicked. moving pretty slowly today, but very glad to be here!
	10:59am dreamyandseedy: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:51 yes! i'm so excited to hear it, only ever heard a terrible bootleg version, and to read the liner notes, it's a somewhat different sound than her other albums
	10:59am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:57 The good news being a massive show of support from local and far-flung community to get everything that wasn't destroyed cleaned up and back in action.
	11:00am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:59 HH: I'll look forward to seeing, thanks.
	11:00am Phin The Hyooman: ↳ Song: "all hid" by "camille yarbrough" Just tuned in towards the end of this song, and if this sets the tone for today's set... With Vicki Anderson right after, seems so. HELLZ YEAH!
	11:00am AYAYRON: I want to buy everything I’ve heard in the last 20 minutes
	11:01am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Heyo. Tardy to the party, today started off with a bang. Greets to all!
	11:01am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dreamyandseedy @10:59 yes it is different, maybe a little less funk, more rock ,but interesting ...iirc
	11:01am love2laf: ↳ AYAYRON @11:00 Agreed this whole set is on fire!
	11:02am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:01 Heyo, great meeting you last night! A little sleepy today but glad I got out!
	11:02am rx "rexy" scabin: @AYAYRON I have done that before.
	11:03am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:52 I have that one on my TBR list. Also WTF RE tree killers? People absolutely suck.
	11:03am Virginia: This whole set! Esp. Camille Yarborough! Wow.
	11:03am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:02 yes, i'm all chuffed to see you on the board today
	11:03am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" AWESOME cover!!!
	11:04am JReganK: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" Surpasses the original
	11:04am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:03 Ditto! I hope the trip home wasn't too bad RE subways!
	11:04am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:53 yes! the Barn Owl was an unofficial mascot of the opposing team -- flew on to the field, and was (accidentally) injured by a strike -- he was disoriented, and the referee was clearing the field -- that is when this jerk deliberately kicked the owl
	11:05am Hughie Considine: ↳ Song: "teenage kicks" by "dawn chorus and the blue tits" Glorious!
	11:05am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 What a jerkoff
	11:06am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:04 no, bus was right at terminal and made it back much quicker than going, lucked out
	11:06am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 Wait, what?
	11:06am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:06 Awesome!
	11:07am StringOFperils: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 Well, at least Nature's calling in that debt. Owl for the win.
	11:07am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:04 it's basically pathological behavior, but the mainstream
	11:08am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 Bingo!
	11:08am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:05 right? no jail time either -- just a fine and suspension from a couple of games (and i always gotta wonder -- would everyone think it so funny if the player did that to an injured human child?)
	11:10am slugluv1313: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 true -- that is how/why WFMU and you all are true solace 😺😺
	11:10am TDK60: The Owl Kicker. I could write a song. The owl kicker would face an imaginary tribunal of eminent Druids, New Age Travelers, and Wiccans, to query and judge the owl kicker before their banishment from the realm. Maybe?
	11:10am rx "rexy" scabin: Good bye, Trouble and Everyone. It is time to push the rock up the hill.
	11:10am Hughie Considine: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 Guided By Voices have "Kicker of Elves" -- and Owls totally works.
	11:11am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 Or have them transformed into tiny vermin to be devoured by the owls that hang out in the pocket park across from my apartment and/or the big guy that sometimes uses my AC as a night-time hunting perch facing onto my building concrete courtyard/dead appliance graveyard.
	11:11am slugluv1313: ↳ rx "rexy" scabin @11:10 bye rx, take care!
	11:11am LT: Pt 2 next week of all the music you didn’t get to play today!! Todays program has been so great
	11:12am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 Unfortunately pathological behavior IS the mainstream in many, many parts of American society.
	11:12am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:11 owls in the city... did not know
	11:13am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:08 The irony in the U.S. is that injuring an animal would have probably caused a riot. Where as a person would have resulted in indifference
	11:13am love2laf: ↳ rx "rexy" scabin @11:10 Sounds like a tough rock, pro tip, don't let it roll back down the hill.
	11:13am JReganK: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 The world could use more Druids
	11:14am slugluv1313: ↳ TDK60 @11:10 oh, i would be much more vicious (as with the cat murdering vet, and the tree murderers too!) -- but, i will keep those evil thoughts to myself 😾👿
	11:14am StringOFperils: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:12 In all fairness to the United States, pathological behaviour is blooming all over the planet's surface. It's not pretty. But the USA is not alone on that slippery slope.
	11:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:12 yes, it is scary when you think about it, i try not to think about it in order to function
	11:15am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:14 That vet should have been shot. I'll do it
	11:15am Marie in Queens: at one point, I thought about posting a reward for information about what seemed like someone who was hurting cats in Queens
	11:16am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "i'm not havin it" by "MC Lyte & Positive K" Brought me out for this one. Good greetings, good people.
	11:16am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 People like that bring out my darker nature
	11:16am Marie in Queens: I think a lot of stuff is done by teens--"crazy" teens @)
	11:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:07 nature as the 'other'
	11:17am Jeezuseffinchrist: ↳ Song: "i'm not havin it" by "MC Lyte & Positive K" hooooo feeling it lol, same
	11:18am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:13 not really -- most "animal cruelty" only gets fines, community service, etc. (not saying that i want the same for human cruelty! abuse/murder of anyone is just evil)
	11:18am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:16 When I lived in the city. I witnessed a lot psychopathic behavior
	11:19am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 You should; on the Astoria Reddit there was in fact a report of one of the "usual" spay and release kitties being killed and left in a prominent place.
	11:19am slugluv1313: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:15 ugh -- thank you! (i know people who do cat rescue in Queens, an overabundance of abused cats -- dogs too)
	11:20am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:18 Exactly! In many cases, the human on human cruelty isn't properly prosecuted either
	11:20am tom tom the pipers son: you can look at these acts against animals, trees as a psychotic internalization of the forces behind climate change
	11:20am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:18 Yeah, the people who do this stuff are sick in one way or another
	11:21am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:20 Hi, Tom. Can you be more specific
	11:21am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "you rented a space" by "cristina" Cristina!
	11:21am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 Yup, not just Central Park -- there are at least 2 confirmed varieties just in the tiny little park near me. The first time one hooted on my AC I was startled. I VERY quietly peeked under the blinds to see what it was and yep an owl. So quiet -- they are so big but you NEVER hear them land or take off -- but they hoot to basically say "this is MY rat and mouse infested drainage courtyard, find yer own, kid."
	11:21am Peter in SEA: Bonjour Trouble and Thursday people! That Beverly Bailey: Pow! I like that Paula Rego drawing on the playlist page much more than her paintings! ;-)
	11:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:21 just nature as the 'other'
	11:22am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:20 I remember coming across a cat that was tortured to death. I'll never forget it
	11:22am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:20 Truth to this.
	11:22am Mike W.: more screencaps per playlist per second than any other program
	11:22am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:21 ha!
	11:22am Marie in Queens: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:19 Hey, I know a lovely English lady, Linda, who does cat rescue in Jackson Heights--really sweet. I had her visit my cat whenever I went away (I paid her). And another really nice lady in my building who fed a group of strays every (!) night. I told her she has great cat karma and that has to count for something
	11:23am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 You mean as an adversary?
	11:23am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:22 yeah, I have to avoid things like that because they haunt me. I could never be a vet
	11:23am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:23 as alien to us humans
	11:23am Zip7: A friend in New Jersey had a groundhog living in his yard that was causing havoc. He trapped it and released it out in the country. It was back two weeks later, and he let it stay -- figured it had as much a right to be there as he did.
	11:24am StringOFperils: A lot of social pressures on people in a world with too many people. People who lack education, adequate housing, enough food to eat, and now NEWS. Information- starved, confused, and frightened...and consequently useful to EVIL
	11:24am Karl: ↳ Song: "you rented a space" by "cristina" Cristina forever
	11:24am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:24 agree
	11:25am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:21 oh wow! jealous 🦉🦉 please give all of them my love cannot recall ever seeing an owl myself -- not even when i was growing up in "the sticks"
	11:25am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:23 I'm not sure if I could control myself if I ever got involved with animal rescue. All torturers of animals are sick cowards deserving swift justice
	11:25am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: My super puts out food and a water dish for a few of "our" local strays in said courtyard -- our most usual visitor is a calico cat that also sometimes lives at the Key Food further down 30th Avenue. I know that this particular Key Food also has at least two Basement Cats; another calico and a black cat that live in the downstairs loading area. The loading staff are VERY protective of those cats. Inside the store, if they have the internal loading doors open, you sometimes see eyes glowing out at you. Outside, when they are loading the really heavy stuff down the roller slide, the two cats will come out and sit at the top of the palettes until the giant slidy things are done going down.
	11:27am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 Do you mean we can't relate to nature?
	11:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ JReganK @11:27 hostile to it...
	11:28am TDK60: Morning Threemoons: Earlier this morn I stopped into a local grocery. They have a cat who hangs by the front door. I said hello (= putting hand near cat face) and they play attacked me. No scratches. That feline likes me I suppose.
	11:28am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:25 Oh yes, I consider my AC Owl a sort of spirit animal -- it started showing up (or I first discovered it) over Mom's last winter; it hooted late one Sunday after I got back from seeing her. If you think about it, an owl having a perfect perch to see a monochrome area where rodents skitter is sort of an ideal owl setup.
	11:28am tom tom the pipers son: erase you like a drawing
	11:28am JReganK: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:25 They're everywhere down here. The best is when they talk to each other
	11:28am Marie in Queens: ESG!!!!!!!!
	11:28am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ TDK60 @11:28 I LOVE grocery/bodega cats.
	11:29am Philip: right on. ESG
	11:29am Ken From Hyde Park: On morning or evening walks, I sometimes hear a pair of owls hooting to each other. 🦉
	11:29am slugluv1313: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:22 that is wonderful! Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City -- lots of local cat rescue groups (nothing really here in Hoboken right now) and yes, a lot of us do TNR, tend to local colonies, do cat sitting, etc. 😺😺
	11:29am Philip: read you, write you, ERASE YOU
	11:30am JReganK: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:27 True. We always fear what we don't understand. Education has always been the key.
	11:30am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:28 We adopted one, Lulu (RIP). She was wonderful. Looks very much like the cat on Trouble's playlists page. I couldn't look at that page for a long while after Lulu died.
	11:31am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:28 Total attitude!
	11:31am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 A calico?
	11:32am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:31 Pure white. Sorry, by "one," I meant "a bodega cat."
	11:32am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:25 Yeah, in the moment, I would prolly "see red" and let loose, but I do think it is better, ideally, to not harm others. (I have seen my violent tendencies crop up, especially when I rode my bike everywhere.) Anger overrides the rational.
	11:32am slugluv1313: ↳ Zip7 @11:23 awww that is so sweet -- he found his way "home" (yes they can be "destructive" -- but i have read of people who have figured out how to co-exist)
	11:32am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:32 Aaah OK. IIRC most all white cats are deaf, or is that just a common misconception?
	11:33am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:32 Well, it's common enough that our vet tested her for it, but Lulu could hear just fine. She was perfect.
	11:33am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:32 Well said.
	11:34am dotpattern: The stray that visits me in Asbury Park got in a fight with, what must be a raccoon. Lots of strays here are sans tail. I wish it would let me attend to it's obvious damage but never lets me approach.
	11:34am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:33 Awwwwwwwwww
	11:34am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:25 awww -- the Basement Cats supervising?!
	11:35am StringOFperils: ↳ dotpattern @11:34 That kind of damage is often from cars too
	11:36am Marie in Queens: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:29 Yeah, it's a wonderful, beautiful thing. And a nice counter to all the "ugly." I want to give money to support local cat/dog rescue places
	11:37am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Zip7 @11:23 Ages ago before Mom sold her house, we had an issue with one that for some reason REALLY only wanted to dig under our really old, lovely Japanese cutleaf maple. We were right up against a state park. So, Mom thought to just dump some cat poop into the basketball-size burrow hole it left (she had her own cat for a long time and then "cat-sat" for my brother while he moved around Asia). Worked like a charm; predator poop scared it away.
	11:37am slugluv1313: ↳ JReganK @11:28 that is wonderful -- so cool!
	11:38am dotpattern: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:36 Petco often has rescue cats and dogs, and they need volunteers and temporary foster parents.
	11:39am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:34 Yup, they know enough that when the outdoor load slide comes out, it means that whole palettes of really REALLY dangerous and heavy stuff is about to come barreling down. They find a place outside and look, one at at time, as stuff is hauled off of trucks and pushed down. The loading staff gives them skritches. Then they run back down the second that they pull the loading roller ramp away.
	11:39am JReganK: ↳ dotpattern @11:34 Raccoons are formidable. Luckily, the cat colony, raccoon family and skunks at my place get along or there would be a lot more vet visits and skunk episodes around here
	11:40am Marie in Queens: ↳ dotpattern @11:38 Oh, cool, thanks! I like your username
	11:40am Philip: such a vibe this morn. dig it!
	11:41am Marie in Queens: It helps me to remember that the bad, the hurting of innocent creatures, is truly aberrant, unusual behavior. the vast vast majority of people would never do that. It makes the news cuz it's unusual.
	11:41am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ JReganK @11:39 My Mom's cat never had an issue with any other mammals in the area, but he DID get in with it with the Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake that lived under the front steps. He got bitten up pretty bad but actually survived after a few days of recovery and not going outside for a bit
	11:41am Handy Haversack: ↳ JReganK @11:39 There's a little stretch along the shores of Newtown Creek in Long Island City where a cat colony has made a mutual-defense pact with some Canada geese. They seem to guard each other's young from rats, raccoons, etc. There are times in the spring when you can see kittens and goslings hanging out together. It is even more ridiculous than it sounds. We call it Cat Goose Beach.
	11:42am slugluv1313: ↳ dotpattern @11:38 true -- rescue groups, ideally, want to find permanent homes for the dogs, cats, rabbits, whoever -- but providing temporary foster care is a genuine life saver
	11:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "truly" by "Marcia Griffiths" repurposing 'here comes the bride' funny
	11:42am Marie in Queens: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 I love it, lol
	11:43am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 OK this sounds both adorable and odd, which means I now must see this. Canadian Geese are tremendously aggressive when it comes to their young.
	11:43am love2laf: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 Thank you for this, I needed a cute happy story today.
	11:44am StringOFperils: en.wikipedia.org...
	11:44am Handy Haversack: Canada geese goslings when they get past the golden-fuzzball stage and hit the lanky-gray teenage phase are also just the clearest proof ever that birds are dinosaurs. Just straight-up dinosaurs, full stop.
	11:44am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:41 Amazing how often the dangers are right under our noses. We've had some toxin issues around here from time to time. Cats are pretty resilient
	11:45am miketp: heavy heavy song selections.archiveville.hi trouble & friends
	11:45am StringOFperils: Canada geese are TOTALLY dinosaurs. Right down to the toothed beak
	11:46am JReganK: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 Wow! I have yet to see a natural arrangement that symbiotic
	11:46am chresti: Last time I counted, there were 6 cats at our front porch waiting for breakfast. 3 of them are regular customers, the others seem tame and I am afraid they were abandoned when their owners moved or passed away
	11:47am northguineahills: nice to wake to lovers rock
	11:47am love2laf: ↳ northguineahills @11:47 Hey ngh how is your pre-move visit going?
	11:47am Handy Haversack: ↳ northguineahills @11:47 How was the show, ngh?
	11:47am Marie in Queens: ↳ chresti @11:46 aw, you guys feed em every morning?
	11:48am northguineahills: fantabulous!
	11:48am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:47 i thought it went pretty nice.
	11:48am Marie in Queens: ↳ northguineahills @11:48 nice to hear! You deserve it
	11:48am chresti: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:47 Yes, and evening!
	11:49am JReganK: ↳ StringOFperils @11:45 Birds are so mis categorized and under estimated. Take how we underestimated their intelligence
	11:49am Marie in Queens: ↳ chresti @11:48 sweet!
	11:49am tom tom the pipers son: totally random, but peter zumthor''s lacma museum in times this morning. looking like an airport terminal, cross between templehof airport and saarinen's twa termal, to me...
	11:49am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ chresti @11:46 I have a good friend in Poughkeepsie who was adopted by two different cats. One was a long time stray who just started following her whenever she walked her beagle and eventually realized that she was OK. Her other cat was literally abandoned when its owner moved and some guy was converting the house to an Air BnB. My friend knew the house, and brought the cat back, and the guy was like "oh they just let her go. You can have her." She was immediately adopted on the spot and was so, so happy to be back in a house after a week of wandering around during the winter.
	11:50am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ northguineahills @11:48 Heyo! Great show last night and great meeting you and other WFMU Fam!
	11:50am tom tom the pipers son: good morning, ngh!
	11:50am slugluv1313: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:41 WOW! growing up, my Mom's favorite birds were the Mockingbirds -- UNFORTUNATELY they were my first cat Fuzzy's favorite too -- then again, they WOULD dive bomb him when he was dashing across the driveway! they were not as difficult to catch as the Bluejays, but still a challenge -- and of course Fuzzy would try to bring his catch into the house, to show my Mom that he was a great hunter -- my Mom was not amused at all
	11:51am chresti: ↳ JReganK @11:49 I'm pals with a raven couple at work.
	11:51am dotpattern: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:40 Thanks! Check out Camp Happy Tails NYC Rescue in Flushing (when you go to the FMU record fair!)
	11:51am Marie in Queens: ↳ Song: "you and your smiling face" by "brown sugar" love this
	11:51am slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:41 baby cats and baby geese! so freaking adorable!!!
	11:51am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:49 Amazes me how some people can't bond with a pet
	11:52am Zip7: ↳ JReganK @11:49 Yeah, I learned relatively recently that intelligence is based on brain size as a proportion of body mass. Birds are really smart! Imagine how witless a brontosaurus must have been
	11:52am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ slugluv1313 @11:50 Yeah, my Mom's cat was always bringing her "presents." He had the Life of Riley of Cats -- in the AM he got cuddles and breakfast, then he'd ask to be let out. Spend the day prowling around a wooded area, then home to get brushed and checked for ticks and dinner, and then back into his cat bed to supervise my Mom grading papers in her office.
	11:53am JReganK: ↳ chresti @11:51 They're said to be as smart as a 12 year old human
	11:53am Trouble: thanks for sitting in today! an interesting book for some who love reggae : safiaya sinclair "how to say babylon", a memoir about growing up in a rastafari family. Heard her speak on fresh air yesterday, sounds interesting
	11:53am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ JReganK @11:53 And some birds are SUPER smart -- think crows and other corvids like ravens.
	11:54am TDK60: Thanks, DJ T!
	11:54am JReganK: ↳ Zip7 @11:52 Yeah. All basic reptilian brain
	11:54am northguineahills: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:50 yeeah, it was superbly awesome to meet you last night!
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: And thanks for this amazing set!!!!
	11:54am StringOFperils: ↳ JReganK @11:53 A lot of vocal language with ravens. It's almost frightening to realize how wise they are.
	11:54am love2laf: ↳ Trouble @11:53 Thank you Trouble, amazing 3 hours of sounds today. Thank you troubled friends for the company.
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ northguineahills @11:54 Likewise! Good luck! It will all work out in the end; the WFMU Fam has your back!
	11:55am slugluv1313: ↳ chresti @11:46 awwww and they know where the FOOD is (but yes, agreed -- a lot of "stray" cats are abandoned house cats -- horrible) thank you for keeping them fed!
	11:55am bradford: Many thanks, Trouble
	11:55am tom tom the pipers son: t y trouble... all...nice chat
	11:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Walk good!
	11:55am JReganK: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:53 They're the best. It's time for their biannual meetings down here
	11:55am Handy Haversack: Oh, dang, it got late! Thanks, Trouble! Fantastic. Stay Troubled, everyone!
	11:56am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:55 Yup and much more interesting than the 200 page deposition I'm supposed to be reading now....
	11:56am northguineahills: thanks, trouble!
	11:56am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜 @11:56 ha ha
	11:56am TDK60: Oh, I look forward to Josh MacP. coming with his Italian rad records...
	11:56am Charles in Chicago: Oops, I missed the whole show! (but I had a nice breakfast). I'll try again next week.
	11:56am JReganK: ↳ StringOFperils @11:54 Time to watch "The Birds" again!
	11:57am Zip7: Thanks for another stellar show, Trouble! And hope all you modernists have a good weekend
	11:57am Marie in Queens: Thanks, Trouble, truly fantastic show. Love the womens!
	11:57am dreamyandseedy: thanks Trouble!
	11:58am StringOFperils: Thank you for all the music!
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Oh, right, no Continental Subway today. Dang it.
	11:58am JReganK: ↳ Marie in Queens @11:57 A bientôt, Marie!
	11:58am slugluv1313: phenomenal show, as always -- thanks so much, Trouble!
	11:58am JReganK: Thnx, Trouble
	11:58am TDK60: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:58 HH: Learn that "Dang it" in Esperanto, eh?
	11:59am Marie in Queens: ↳ JReganK @11:58 merci! a vous, aussi!
	12:01pm chresti: Thanks Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from October 5, 2023

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