WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from April 17, 2024

Listener comments!
	9:03pm headcleaner: Market long since obliterated. Steeple in the background still proudly standing. The former was a bicycle & sporting goods shop, in more cheerful days - 1940s.nyc...
	🥁 10:00pm Manta: and we're off! like a horse?
	🥁 10:01pm tom tom the pipers son: hello sam and people...
	10:01pm Carmichael: Turn off my radio!?! That’s crazy talk!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @9:03 They’ll never take our steeple!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ Manta @10:00 Absolutely. Everything’s like a horse, as far as I’m concerned.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:01 Hola, Tom Tom!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:01 Who would even suggest such a thing?
	10:04pm chresti: These hooves were made for kicking!
	🥁 10:05pm tom tom the pipers son: have to hand it to pittsburgh for fielding the fullest expression of the breaking of the color barrier in baseball in the late 60's and the whole of the 70's
	10:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ chresti @10:04 Welcome, Chresti!
	🥁 10:10pm tom tom the pipers son: a request... sam, do you know "go doc ellis" by s.f. seals...would you play it, it can only be played on the stream...
	10:10pm zzz: heyoooo DJ SS and folks ✌️
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 Don’t have this one on hand but I can try to track it down for another show. I do love the story of Doc Ellis.
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:10 Buenos Noches, zzz!
	🥁 10:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 thanks, great song
	10:12pm Sam Segal: Or should I say buena noche? That’s less of a “sleep tight” more of a “good night,” I think.
	10:14pm zzz: idk. but “buenos noches, zzz” has a nice ring to it
	10:15pm northguineahills: there's now a new apt building and a citibike station at the pictured location...
	🥁 10:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Sam Segal @10:12 dormir is to sleep, don't know if there's a "dormir"phrase for saying good night....ngh?
	10:18pm chresti: ↳ headcleaner @9:03 Great! Thanks!
	10:19pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:16 Bon dodo?
	🥁 10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @10:19 bon isn't spanish...something like buen dormirte
	10:21pm northguineahills: buenas noches always works...
	🥁 10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: buen dormirse
	10:21pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @10:15 What do you think about these electric citi bikes, NGH? I find the riders of electric citi bikes are often taking bigger risks on the roads…thinking they can pedal assist their way through intersections with very little clearance.
	🥁 10:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:21 does buen dormirse make sense?
	10:23pm northguineahills: ↳ Sam Segal @10:21 i have friends that commute to work on them, but, they're courteous. normally, i'd say let the others get hit by cars, but that would damage the cars.
	10:24pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:23 informally, you can say a dormir for, go to sleep.
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Perhaps I’m just jealous of them as an analog biker myself
	🥁 10:24pm Manta: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:16 "Que descanses", meaning something in the sort of "have a good night's sleep", is the only expression that kind of includes dormir and buenas noches.
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:23 that would mean a rather formal, have a good sleep.
	🥁 10:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Manta @10:24 ah thanks
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:24 what manta said...
	10:26pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:25 my source is my former partner, but since manta is from the same part of the country...
	🥁 10:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:25 like if someone was going to "off" somebody...buen dormirse
	10:28pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 you know, that's never come up in conversation....
	10:28pm northguineahills: (manta is from the same city i met my ex)
	🥁 10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 in a movie
	10:29pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:29 maybe in narcos, but i can't remember
	🥁 10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:28 coinkydinky
	10:30pm northguineahills: 95% of the time, my ex an I (and her friends), conversed in english.
	🥁 10:32pm tom tom the pipers son: problem with half melted pint of ice cream...so easy to eat whole pint....
	10:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:24 i just had a good friend who's into wfmu and especially psyche/noise rock, move from cd mex to monterrey (he was bored w/ mexico city, and now bored w/ mty). he's a professional photographer.
	10:34pm Carmichael: Actually a bit strange that we nowadays need the phrase “analog biker” …
	🥁 10:35pm Manta: ↳ northguineahills @10:32 If CDMX bored you, moving to MTY is definitively a choice.
	🥁 10:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Neon Night (Rain)" by "Jon Hassell" i can hear hassel's sound fitting in a robert wyatt song...shame they didn't work together...to the best of my knowledge
	10:37pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:35 before the zetas effed mty, i found mty enchanting. i like cdmx, but it's so big, you have to travel to find the interesting bits.
	10:38pm northguineahills: found a kimchi western series. will let y'all know if it's any good this weekend.
	10:39pm doctorjazz: Hi folks!
	10:40pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:39 Evening, Doctor!
	10:41pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Remind me (Chopped N Screwed by Slow D)" by "Patr... oh hell yes SS. i remember this premium from a few yrs back. love these C’d & S’d tracks i’ll actually be going to houston for a few days for work thing in june. wonder what i can get into there
	🥁 10:44pm Manta: ↳ northguineahills @10:37 that's true! gotta find an area you like and stick to it
	10:45pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Train to Thiensan" by "John Zorn" classic
	🥁 10:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @10:41 rothko chapel... de menil foundation
	10:47pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:41 Thanks, zzz! This was a fun premium to put together. You could check out Screwed Up Records & Tapes in Houston, DJ Screw’s former headquarters. I think it’s still an active record store.
	10:47pm Dean: "Analog" seems inapt for the qualification. In the analog/digital sense, I think it refers to encodings (of sound, language, the visual, etc.) that are similar in some significant way to the objects they encode. Hence, an LP is analog, because its fixation of the audio signal resembles the original sound. We can perceive where volume, frequency, and rhythm are encoded in ways that we cannot with digital recordings. An analog bike isn't an actual, original bike, which is also what powered bikes are. The only difference is that there is the power augmentation. They are no less analog for being powered. "Analog" doesn't mean absent technology. I also get weary of the notion that virtual or digital sources of information are not material. Of course they're material, and if you've ever had to maintain a supply of them for people who rely on access to them, as I have, then you know very well how material and demanding of space they can be.
	10:47pm Dean: Good evening, all!
	10:48pm zzz: my friend who is a film prof at new school just told me that Zorn will be one of this years commencement speakers at graduation. need him to try and get me in there to hear that!!
	10:49pm rw: Aloha!
	🥁 10:49pm Bobby: Hey Sam, Horsers around!
	10:49pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:47 Welcome, Dean!
	10:49pm Sam Segal: Aloha, rw and Bobby!
	10:50pm Dean: Is this the same Document label that documents all of those amazing Blues recordings? What a treasure!
	🥁 10:50pm Manta: ↳ Song: "Lonely Nights in Hawaii" by "Aloha Land Serenaders" oh yeah this hits the spot!
	10:51pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:50 Yes, great gospel recordings as well.
	🥁 10:52pm Bobby: ↳ Manta @10:50 second
	10:52pm Carmichael: This reminds me that I found The Danny Kapoi Trio at a late neighbor’s estate sale. Also some Trinidad steel drum music.
	10:52pm Carmichael: The LP, not the trio
	🥁 10:54pm WR: /delurk Hello Samuel and folks. Have been enjoying the eclecticism this evening. /relurk
	10:56pm ?: Are we talking about electric bicycles?? I want in. Or… maybe I don’t.
	10:56pm rw: ? is me. I is ?
	🥁 10:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @10:47 this makes me think of the notion of artificial intelligence being living
	10:57pm zzz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:45 oooooh good call, thx!
	10:58pm Ike: Who’s got pie?
	10:58pm monkeyz: on, cheers!
	🥁 10:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @10:57 looked at de menil site... not sure if it's open...do you know hill country fox? she'd know all the art spaces in houston
	🥁 10:59pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:56 or self determined
	🥁 11:01pm Bobby: The current time: Since then
	11:02pm rw: It’s definitely the 8:00 hour from where I stand.
	11:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ WR @10:54 Thank you for briefly delurking, WR! Glad to have you visible and invisible tonight.
	11:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @10:56 ????? :-)
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ Ike @10:58 I saved you a slice, Ike.
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ monkeyz @10:58 Welcome, monkeyz!
	11:06pm Dean: Whether or not AI is sentient is a metaphysical question. Whether or not electrically impelled bikes are analog is a semantic question. And of course semantics evolve, so maybe by now "analog" does mean not techy.
	11:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @11:02 Now see that’s interesting. Because, for me, and this is just me, it is 11:06. But again, that’s me.
	11:07pm rw: ↳ Sam Segal @11:06 This Santa Ana Excursion is hitting me in the right way right now. And by now I mean 8:07pm
	11:07pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Sam, centaurs
	11:07pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... Quine + Ribot sounding glorious together
	11:09pm Carmichael: Time for me to sit down to a late west coast dinner. Or a REALLY late east coast dinner. Thank Sam and all.
	11:10pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @11:09 Enjoy, Carmichael! Thanks for stopping in.
	11:10pm rw: And Sam, I agree about the e-bike phenomenon. A lot of people are out there riding beyond their abilities. Bike riders are bad enough already. Power just makes things worse.
	11:10pm Sam Segal: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:07 Ahoy, Coel!
	🥁 11:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:06 is it even a metaphysical question or is that fool's gold
	11:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @11:07 So glad I’m now aware of this album. Ticks so many boxes for me.
	11:12pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @11:10 Yes, and they’re trying to have their cake and eat it too…speeding along nearly as fast as a car but dodging through traffic and passing people in the bike lane. It’s added some chaos to the streets in Brooklyn for sure.
	11:17pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 iron pyrite
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:10 it's suddenly overrun here with motorized bikes and motorized scooters. just a few hours ago i walked down a sidewalk and a woman on a motorized bike was approaching toward me. i wasn't planning to alter my path, and she must've known she was wrong to be riding on the sidewalk, so she hops the curb, into oncoming cars on a very narrow road, in a barely controlled wobble. brilliant. ... and i can't help but think about the eloi in the time machine when i see all these people preparing their muscles for complete atrophy.
	🥁 11:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... this sounded so familiar to me like it was a semi genre or something in the late 90's
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 indeed
	🥁 11:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 i think the beaches in san diego are a large part, fool's gold, pretty spectacular...
	11:20pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:18 i've knocked people off of bikes on sidewalks before, as i wouldn't alter my path (bikes belong on the street, as do all electric conveyances). even had a 18 year old punch me a few times in the face for my trouble.
	11:20pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:19 now i have the stone roses stuck in my head...
	🥁 11:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:20 do they have a song about that...?
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @11:20 maybe next time stick a drum stick or a pipe into his spokes
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:21 (the front wheel, of course!)
	🥁 11:23pm Bobby: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 Song title!
	11:23pm Dean: Well, we don't exactly know what "sentient" means. Or maybe we do? I do know that I've had the good fortune to hear John Butcher a time or two live. Marvelous.
	11:23pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:21 i got up after each time he hit, me, and never hit back. my ex was not amused of my antics, saying, "i couldn't have really gotten hurt". well, duh. I take cycling and pedestrian safety seriously....
	🥁 11:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Bobby @11:23 fool's gold...?
	11:24pm northguineahills: ↳ Dean @11:23 there's a turing test for that...
	🥁 11:24pm Bobby: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 I think theirs is fools gold
	🥁 11:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Bobby @11:24 oh...thx
	11:25pm rw: coel, I’ll ride a combination of street and sidewalk. Sometimes the street can be dangerous. I feel like I’m pretty good about giving pedestrians plenty of room and passing slowly though
	11:27pm Dean: Turing, meh. Bush, meh. Berners-Lee, meh. These guys steered us wrong. I resent them.
	🥁 11:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:23 that get's to be science fiction
	🥁 11:27pm tom tom the pipers son: gets
	11:27pm rw: ↳ rw @11:25 Oh, wait. I responded to coel but should have said ngh!
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: are san diego beaches significantly iron pyrite? i didn't notice, when i was there. - too many distractions?
	11:30pm northguineahills: ↳ Bobby @11:24 exactly: for tom's reference: www.youtube.com...
	🥁 11:30pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:28 yes i think the beach was called coronado beach, it was sparkling
	11:31pm northguineahills: ↳ rw @11:27 there's a reason I didn't bike in Orlando, drivers are too erratic, even w/ the odd bike lane. Never felt too unsafe in nyc.
	11:31pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:25 i hop onto the sidewalk occasionally if the cars aren't leaving me any room, but not if any walkers are there
	🥁 11:32pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:30 don't remember this
	11:32pm T GRavel: Loving the show tonight Sam! Thanks so much ! Tucked up a creek off the Mississippi and this has been wonderful at keeping me company and drowning out the paper mill nearby
	11:32pm Dean: Coronado Beach? On Coronado Island, where the Hotel Coronado resides? That's where part of the movie Some Like It Hot was filmed. And I believe I was in utero and in San Diego when it was filmed. This Texas chamber music is lovely.
	11:33pm northguineahills: and i would ride my bike down to far rockaway on flatbush ave, having truck mirrors miss my head by inches and dodge potholes, still safer than Orlando (Gainesville is a cycle friendly town, heck even Orange Park (suburb of jacksonville), where my parents live, is somewhat cycle friendly)
	🥁 11:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:32 right... i remember there was a bridge to walk across...was not aware of "some like...."
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:30 wow that sounds beautiful! i remember a "black beach" and didn't catch the names of any others i visited. they were all beautiful.
	11:38pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... I have this album!
	🥁 11:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:35 i think black beaches are made from volcanic rock which is pretty obvious deduction the beaches in san diego were beautiful as well as la jolla
	11:38pm northguineahills: jeese, what would doug do if you go over you're allotted time, sam? ;)
	11:39pm Sam Segal: ↳ T GRavel @11:32 Thanks so much, T! Up a creek off the Mississippi in proximity to a noisy paper mill. What a scene!
	11:40pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @11:38 Reward me for increasing the amount of live programming on the stream of course!
	🥁 11:41pm tom tom the pipers son: Why is the sand glittery at Coronado Beach? The long sandy beaches here are special and literally sparkle, thanks to the mineral mica in its golden sand. It's just one of the reasons Coronado was ranked No. 15 on Tripadvisor's 2022 Travelers Best tally of best beaches in the United States, and has regularly landed on other top-beaches lists.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @11:33 oh man truck mirrors are scary. but not just truck mirrors. i was hit by a car mirror once, but i wasn't riding. i was an oblivious pedestrian. the tripod with a nikon fe mounted took off like a missile, and the side mirror of the caprice classic bounced up the road. . .
	11:45pm rw: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 Yikes! How did the camera fare?
	11:46pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 NYC drivers are mostly predictable. FL drivers, anything but.
	🥁 11:48pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 i imagine having a dream about breaking a camera to be equivalent of dream about breaking teeth
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:45 the tripod came down camera first. the flash unit mounted on top exploded! the extreme macro lens on it no longer mounted smoothly but still worked. the camera seemed to be okay, miraculously, except the flash mount.
	🥁 11:50pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:48 both... a pet fear for me
	🥁 11:51pm Bobby: Always a pleasure, Sam. Will be checking out the Brian Baumbusch immediately after your show. Thanks!
	🥁 11:52pm tom tom the pipers son: see ya bobby
	11:52pm rw: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:50 Nice.
	11:52pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:48 i don't think i've ever had a scary camera dream! (despite having scary camera events!) OR a breaking teeth dream, fortunately.
	🥁 11:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:52 i haven't either but i fear having them
	11:53pm Sam Segal: ↳ Bobby @11:51 Adios, Bobby! Thanks for hanging.
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:52 yeah, i think the flash unit mediated the camera's impact
	11:55pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:50 woah////
	11:56pm northguineahills: muchas domo dankes, sam!
	🥁 11:57pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks sam...nice spending time here
	11:57pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:54 ...the woman stopped her car a few hundred yards up; came walking back with her sideview mirror in her hand, wires hanging out... i had already gotten up. i was dazed but maybe appeared fine to her. she said "you okay?you really ought to watch where you're walking!" and walked away.
	12:00am zzz: thx Sam ‘night all
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	🥁 12:00am Manta: thanks, Sam!
	12:00am Dean: Many thanks!
	12:00am rw: Thank you Sam! Always a pleasure. ‘Night all!
	🥁 12:01am WR: Thank you! Sam!
	9:25pm marjorie courtney-latimer: Frosted Fool's Gold Flake!
	5:29pm doctorjazz: At the end of my catch up listen (getting tougher-I like to listen to the Drummer Stream Thursday shows, and Sounds Under 64). The last set is up my alley! Also got to the 1st half of the Accordion Marathon CD-great stuff (I'm a bit fan of cool accordion music). Thanks, Sam!

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April 17, 2024: Listen: These Are Its Hooves: It Has Gone Off, Like a Horse

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Joe Bataan	Eulogy For Roberto (Goodbye Adios)	Drug Story	Ghetto	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Joe Acosta	Una Traicion "Una Traicion" by "Joe Acosta"	The Power of Love	Ghetto	0:05:24 (Pop-up)
Orquesta La Fantastica	M&M "M&M" by "Orquesta La Fantastica"	From Ear To Ear	Ghetto	0:12:49 (Pop-up)

Lumpeks	Mazurek "Mazurek" by "Lumpeks"	Lumpeks	Umlaut	0:20:30 (Pop-up)
Le Cri du Caire	Kon Kama Kano "Kon Kama Kano" by "Le Cri du Caire"	Le Cri du Caire	Les Disques du Festival Permanent	0:25:34 (Pop-up)
Jon Hassell	Neon Night (Rain) "Neon Night (Rain)" by "Jon Hassell"	Further Fictions	Ndeya	0:29:33 (Pop-up)
Ambient Hawaiʻi	Aloha Therpay "Aloha Therpay" by "Ambient Hawaiʻi"	Aloha Therapy	FOA	0:34:45 (Pop-up)
Patrice Rushen	Remind me (Chopped N Screwed by Slow D)	YouTube Chopped N Skrewed (IYLYH 2021 Premium)	WFMU Premium	0:37:50 (Pop-up)
John Zorn	Train to Thiensan "Train to Thiensan" by "John Zorn"	The Gift	Tzadik	0:44:39 (Pop-up)
Aloha Land Serenaders	Lonely Nights in Hawaii	Hawaiian Rainbow’– Hawaiian Music on Edison Records (1916 – 1929)	Document	0:48:23 (Pop-up)
Ralph Hart and the Texas Musical Harts	Ain't No Grave Gonna Hold My Body Down	Hillbillies In Hell: Country Music's Tormented Testament (1952-1974) The Final Chapter	The Omni Recording Corporation	0:52:27 (Pop-up)

Ikue Mori with Robert Quine and Marc Ribot	Santa Ana Excursion	Painted Desert	Avant	1:03:29 (Pop-up)
Anders P. Jensen	X6 "X6" by "Anders P. Jensen"	Det Foranderlige Instrument	Escho	1:09:22 (Pop-up)
John Allpass	The March Hare "The March Hare" by "John Allpass"	A Web of Braided Willow (The Folklore of the Wickerman)	Folklore Tapes	1:13:07 (Pop-up)
Paddy Steer	SOLKA "SOLKA" by "Paddy Steer"	When the Frog from the Well Sees the Ocean (Reports from English UFOlklore)	Folklore Tapes	1:15:49 (Pop-up)
Pigbaby	It's A Long Way Down From Here	Palindromes	PLZ Make It Ruins	1:17:32 (Pop-up)
John Butcher	Laval "Laval" by "John Butcher"	The Very Fabric	Hitorri	1:21:53 (Pop-up)
Miklós Perényi	Sonata (1948/53): Dialogo. Adagio, rubato, cantabile (Ligeti)	Britten, Bach, Ligeti	ECM	1:24:06 (Pop-up)
Kory Reeder	Adjacent Spaces (2020)	Texas: Vol. III - Chamber Music	Self-Released	1:28:54 (Pop-up)

Brian Baumbusch	Tides: Movement 2	Murmuration	Other Minds	1:38:33 (Pop-up)
Michael Bisio Quartet	Still "Still" by "Michael Bisio Quartet"	MBefore	TAO Forms	1:46:11 (Pop-up)
Sungjae Son, Yulhee Kim, Suwuk Chung, Soojin Suh	Ebyul	Near East Quartet	ECM	1:50:21 (Pop-up)
Ruben Machtelinckx + Arve Henriksen	Lessness	A Short Story	Aspen Edities	1:53:43 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03pm headcleaner: Market long since obliterated. Steeple in the background still proudly standing. The former was a bicycle & sporting goods shop, in more cheerful days - 1940s.nyc...
	🥁 10:00pm Manta: and we're off! like a horse?
	🥁 10:01pm tom tom the pipers son: hello sam and people...
	10:01pm Carmichael: Turn off my radio!?! That’s crazy talk!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ headcleaner @9:03 They’ll never take our steeple!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ Manta @10:00 Absolutely. Everything’s like a horse, as far as I’m concerned.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:01 Hola, Tom Tom!
	10:03pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @10:01 Who would even suggest such a thing?
	10:04pm chresti: These hooves were made for kicking!
	🥁 10:05pm tom tom the pipers son: have to hand it to pittsburgh for fielding the fullest expression of the breaking of the color barrier in baseball in the late 60's and the whole of the 70's
	10:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ chresti @10:04 Welcome, Chresti!
	🥁 10:10pm tom tom the pipers son: a request... sam, do you know "go doc ellis" by s.f. seals...would you play it, it can only be played on the stream...
	10:10pm zzz: heyoooo DJ SS and folks ✌️
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 Don’t have this one on hand but I can try to track it down for another show. I do love the story of Doc Ellis.
	10:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:10 Buenos Noches, zzz!
	🥁 10:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 thanks, great song
	10:12pm Sam Segal: Or should I say buena noche? That’s less of a “sleep tight” more of a “good night,” I think.
	10:14pm zzz: idk. but “buenos noches, zzz” has a nice ring to it
	10:15pm northguineahills: there's now a new apt building and a citibike station at the pictured location...
	🥁 10:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Sam Segal @10:12 dormir is to sleep, don't know if there's a "dormir"phrase for saying good night....ngh?
	10:18pm chresti: ↳ headcleaner @9:03 Great! Thanks!
	10:19pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:16 Bon dodo?
	🥁 10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @10:19 bon isn't spanish...something like buen dormirte
	10:21pm northguineahills: buenas noches always works...
	🥁 10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: buen dormirse
	10:21pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @10:15 What do you think about these electric citi bikes, NGH? I find the riders of electric citi bikes are often taking bigger risks on the roads…thinking they can pedal assist their way through intersections with very little clearance.
	🥁 10:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:21 does buen dormirse make sense?
	10:23pm northguineahills: ↳ Sam Segal @10:21 i have friends that commute to work on them, but, they're courteous. normally, i'd say let the others get hit by cars, but that would damage the cars.
	10:24pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:23 informally, you can say a dormir for, go to sleep.
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Perhaps I’m just jealous of them as an analog biker myself
	🥁 10:24pm Manta: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:16 "Que descanses", meaning something in the sort of "have a good night's sleep", is the only expression that kind of includes dormir and buenas noches.
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:23 that would mean a rather formal, have a good sleep.
	🥁 10:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Manta @10:24 ah thanks
	10:25pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:24 what manta said...
	10:26pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:25 my source is my former partner, but since manta is from the same part of the country...
	🥁 10:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:25 like if someone was going to "off" somebody...buen dormirse
	10:28pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 you know, that's never come up in conversation....
	10:28pm northguineahills: (manta is from the same city i met my ex)
	🥁 10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 in a movie
	10:29pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:29 maybe in narcos, but i can't remember
	🥁 10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @10:28 coinkydinky
	10:30pm northguineahills: 95% of the time, my ex an I (and her friends), conversed in english.
	🥁 10:32pm tom tom the pipers son: problem with half melted pint of ice cream...so easy to eat whole pint....
	10:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:24 i just had a good friend who's into wfmu and especially psyche/noise rock, move from cd mex to monterrey (he was bored w/ mexico city, and now bored w/ mty). he's a professional photographer.
	10:34pm Carmichael: Actually a bit strange that we nowadays need the phrase “analog biker” …
	🥁 10:35pm Manta: ↳ northguineahills @10:32 If CDMX bored you, moving to MTY is definitively a choice.
	🥁 10:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Neon Night (Rain)" by "Jon Hassell" i can hear hassel's sound fitting in a robert wyatt song...shame they didn't work together...to the best of my knowledge
	10:37pm northguineahills: ↳ Manta @10:35 before the zetas effed mty, i found mty enchanting. i like cdmx, but it's so big, you have to travel to find the interesting bits.
	10:38pm northguineahills: found a kimchi western series. will let y'all know if it's any good this weekend.
	10:39pm doctorjazz: Hi folks!
	10:40pm Sam Segal: ↳ doctorjazz @10:39 Evening, Doctor!
	10:41pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Remind me (Chopped N Screwed by Slow D)" by "Patr... oh hell yes SS. i remember this premium from a few yrs back. love these C’d & S’d tracks i’ll actually be going to houston for a few days for work thing in june. wonder what i can get into there
	🥁 10:44pm Manta: ↳ northguineahills @10:37 that's true! gotta find an area you like and stick to it
	10:45pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Train to Thiensan" by "John Zorn" classic
	🥁 10:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @10:41 rothko chapel... de menil foundation
	10:47pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @10:41 Thanks, zzz! This was a fun premium to put together. You could check out Screwed Up Records & Tapes in Houston, DJ Screw’s former headquarters. I think it’s still an active record store.
	10:47pm Dean: "Analog" seems inapt for the qualification. In the analog/digital sense, I think it refers to encodings (of sound, language, the visual, etc.) that are similar in some significant way to the objects they encode. Hence, an LP is analog, because its fixation of the audio signal resembles the original sound. We can perceive where volume, frequency, and rhythm are encoded in ways that we cannot with digital recordings. An analog bike isn't an actual, original bike, which is also what powered bikes are. The only difference is that there is the power augmentation. They are no less analog for being powered. "Analog" doesn't mean absent technology. I also get weary of the notion that virtual or digital sources of information are not material. Of course they're material, and if you've ever had to maintain a supply of them for people who rely on access to them, as I have, then you know very well how material and demanding of space they can be.
	10:47pm Dean: Good evening, all!
	10:48pm zzz: my friend who is a film prof at new school just told me that Zorn will be one of this years commencement speakers at graduation. need him to try and get me in there to hear that!!
	10:49pm rw: Aloha!
	🥁 10:49pm Bobby: Hey Sam, Horsers around!
	10:49pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:47 Welcome, Dean!
	10:49pm Sam Segal: Aloha, rw and Bobby!
	10:50pm Dean: Is this the same Document label that documents all of those amazing Blues recordings? What a treasure!
	🥁 10:50pm Manta: ↳ Song: "Lonely Nights in Hawaii" by "Aloha Land Serenaders" oh yeah this hits the spot!
	10:51pm Sam Segal: ↳ Dean @10:50 Yes, great gospel recordings as well.
	🥁 10:52pm Bobby: ↳ Manta @10:50 second
	10:52pm Carmichael: This reminds me that I found The Danny Kapoi Trio at a late neighbor’s estate sale. Also some Trinidad steel drum music.
	10:52pm Carmichael: The LP, not the trio
	🥁 10:54pm WR: /delurk Hello Samuel and folks. Have been enjoying the eclecticism this evening. /relurk
	10:56pm ?: Are we talking about electric bicycles?? I want in. Or… maybe I don’t.
	10:56pm rw: ? is me. I is ?
	🥁 10:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @10:47 this makes me think of the notion of artificial intelligence being living
	10:57pm zzz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:45 oooooh good call, thx!
	10:58pm Ike: Who’s got pie?
	10:58pm monkeyz: on, cheers!
	🥁 10:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @10:57 looked at de menil site... not sure if it's open...do you know hill country fox? she'd know all the art spaces in houston
	🥁 10:59pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:56 or self determined
	🥁 11:01pm Bobby: The current time: Since then
	11:02pm rw: It’s definitely the 8:00 hour from where I stand.
	11:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ WR @10:54 Thank you for briefly delurking, WR! Glad to have you visible and invisible tonight.
	11:04pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @10:56 ????? :-)
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ Ike @10:58 I saved you a slice, Ike.
	11:05pm Sam Segal: ↳ monkeyz @10:58 Welcome, monkeyz!
	11:06pm Dean: Whether or not AI is sentient is a metaphysical question. Whether or not electrically impelled bikes are analog is a semantic question. And of course semantics evolve, so maybe by now "analog" does mean not techy.
	11:06pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @11:02 Now see that’s interesting. Because, for me, and this is just me, it is 11:06. But again, that’s me.
	11:07pm rw: ↳ Sam Segal @11:06 This Santa Ana Excursion is hitting me in the right way right now. And by now I mean 8:07pm
	11:07pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Sam, centaurs
	11:07pm zzz: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... Quine + Ribot sounding glorious together
	11:09pm Carmichael: Time for me to sit down to a late west coast dinner. Or a REALLY late east coast dinner. Thank Sam and all.
	11:10pm Sam Segal: ↳ Carmichael @11:09 Enjoy, Carmichael! Thanks for stopping in.
	11:10pm rw: And Sam, I agree about the e-bike phenomenon. A lot of people are out there riding beyond their abilities. Bike riders are bad enough already. Power just makes things worse.
	11:10pm Sam Segal: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:07 Ahoy, Coel!
	🥁 11:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:06 is it even a metaphysical question or is that fool's gold
	11:11pm Sam Segal: ↳ zzz @11:07 So glad I’m now aware of this album. Ticks so many boxes for me.
	11:12pm Sam Segal: ↳ rw @11:10 Yes, and they’re trying to have their cake and eat it too…speeding along nearly as fast as a car but dodging through traffic and passing people in the bike lane. It’s added some chaos to the streets in Brooklyn for sure.
	11:17pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 iron pyrite
	11:18pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:10 it's suddenly overrun here with motorized bikes and motorized scooters. just a few hours ago i walked down a sidewalk and a woman on a motorized bike was approaching toward me. i wasn't planning to alter my path, and she must've known she was wrong to be riding on the sidewalk, so she hops the curb, into oncoming cars on a very narrow road, in a barely controlled wobble. brilliant. ... and i can't help but think about the eloi in the time machine when i see all these people preparing their muscles for complete atrophy.
	🥁 11:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... this sounded so familiar to me like it was a semi genre or something in the late 90's
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 indeed
	🥁 11:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:17 i think the beaches in san diego are a large part, fool's gold, pretty spectacular...
	11:20pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:18 i've knocked people off of bikes on sidewalks before, as i wouldn't alter my path (bikes belong on the street, as do all electric conveyances). even had a 18 year old punch me a few times in the face for my trouble.
	11:20pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:19 now i have the stone roses stuck in my head...
	🥁 11:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:20 do they have a song about that...?
	11:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @11:20 maybe next time stick a drum stick or a pipe into his spokes
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:21 (the front wheel, of course!)
	🥁 11:23pm Bobby: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 Song title!
	11:23pm Dean: Well, we don't exactly know what "sentient" means. Or maybe we do? I do know that I've had the good fortune to hear John Butcher a time or two live. Marvelous.
	11:23pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:21 i got up after each time he hit, me, and never hit back. my ex was not amused of my antics, saying, "i couldn't have really gotten hurt". well, duh. I take cycling and pedestrian safety seriously....
	🥁 11:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Bobby @11:23 fool's gold...?
	11:24pm northguineahills: ↳ Dean @11:23 there's a turing test for that...
	🥁 11:24pm Bobby: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 I think theirs is fools gold
	🥁 11:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Bobby @11:24 oh...thx
	11:25pm rw: coel, I’ll ride a combination of street and sidewalk. Sometimes the street can be dangerous. I feel like I’m pretty good about giving pedestrians plenty of room and passing slowly though
	11:27pm Dean: Turing, meh. Bush, meh. Berners-Lee, meh. These guys steered us wrong. I resent them.
	🥁 11:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:23 that get's to be science fiction
	🥁 11:27pm tom tom the pipers son: gets
	11:27pm rw: ↳ rw @11:25 Oh, wait. I responded to coel but should have said ngh!
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: are san diego beaches significantly iron pyrite? i didn't notice, when i was there. - too many distractions?
	11:30pm northguineahills: ↳ Bobby @11:24 exactly: for tom's reference: www.youtube.com...
	🥁 11:30pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:28 yes i think the beach was called coronado beach, it was sparkling
	11:31pm northguineahills: ↳ rw @11:27 there's a reason I didn't bike in Orlando, drivers are too erratic, even w/ the odd bike lane. Never felt too unsafe in nyc.
	11:31pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:25 i hop onto the sidewalk occasionally if the cars aren't leaving me any room, but not if any walkers are there
	🥁 11:32pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @11:30 don't remember this
	11:32pm T GRavel: Loving the show tonight Sam! Thanks so much ! Tucked up a creek off the Mississippi and this has been wonderful at keeping me company and drowning out the paper mill nearby
	11:32pm Dean: Coronado Beach? On Coronado Island, where the Hotel Coronado resides? That's where part of the movie Some Like It Hot was filmed. And I believe I was in utero and in San Diego when it was filmed. This Texas chamber music is lovely.
	11:33pm northguineahills: and i would ride my bike down to far rockaway on flatbush ave, having truck mirrors miss my head by inches and dodge potholes, still safer than Orlando (Gainesville is a cycle friendly town, heck even Orange Park (suburb of jacksonville), where my parents live, is somewhat cycle friendly)
	🥁 11:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:32 right... i remember there was a bridge to walk across...was not aware of "some like...."
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:30 wow that sounds beautiful! i remember a "black beach" and didn't catch the names of any others i visited. they were all beautiful.
	11:38pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Santa Ana Excursion" by "Ikue Mori with Robert Qu... I have this album!
	🥁 11:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:35 i think black beaches are made from volcanic rock which is pretty obvious deduction the beaches in san diego were beautiful as well as la jolla
	11:38pm northguineahills: jeese, what would doug do if you go over you're allotted time, sam? ;)
	11:39pm Sam Segal: ↳ T GRavel @11:32 Thanks so much, T! Up a creek off the Mississippi in proximity to a noisy paper mill. What a scene!
	11:40pm Sam Segal: ↳ northguineahills @11:38 Reward me for increasing the amount of live programming on the stream of course!
	🥁 11:41pm tom tom the pipers son: Why is the sand glittery at Coronado Beach? The long sandy beaches here are special and literally sparkle, thanks to the mineral mica in its golden sand. It's just one of the reasons Coronado was ranked No. 15 on Tripadvisor's 2022 Travelers Best tally of best beaches in the United States, and has regularly landed on other top-beaches lists.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @11:33 oh man truck mirrors are scary. but not just truck mirrors. i was hit by a car mirror once, but i wasn't riding. i was an oblivious pedestrian. the tripod with a nikon fe mounted took off like a missile, and the side mirror of the caprice classic bounced up the road. . .
	11:45pm rw: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 Yikes! How did the camera fare?
	11:46pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 NYC drivers are mostly predictable. FL drivers, anything but.
	🥁 11:48pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 i imagine having a dream about breaking a camera to be equivalent of dream about breaking teeth
	11:50pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:45 the tripod came down camera first. the flash unit mounted on top exploded! the extreme macro lens on it no longer mounted smoothly but still worked. the camera seemed to be okay, miraculously, except the flash mount.
	🥁 11:50pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:48 both... a pet fear for me
	🥁 11:51pm Bobby: Always a pleasure, Sam. Will be checking out the Brian Baumbusch immediately after your show. Thanks!
	🥁 11:52pm tom tom the pipers son: see ya bobby
	11:52pm rw: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:50 Nice.
	11:52pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:48 i don't think i've ever had a scary camera dream! (despite having scary camera events!) OR a breaking teeth dream, fortunately.
	🥁 11:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:52 i haven't either but i fear having them
	11:53pm Sam Segal: ↳ Bobby @11:51 Adios, Bobby! Thanks for hanging.
	11:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ rw @11:52 yeah, i think the flash unit mediated the camera's impact
	11:55pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:50 woah////
	11:56pm northguineahills: muchas domo dankes, sam!
	🥁 11:57pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks sam...nice spending time here
	11:57pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:54 ...the woman stopped her car a few hundred yards up; came walking back with her sideview mirror in her hand, wires hanging out... i had already gotten up. i was dazed but maybe appeared fine to her. she said "you okay?you really ought to watch where you're walking!" and walked away.
	12:00am zzz: thx Sam ‘night all
	12:00am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	🥁 12:00am Manta: thanks, Sam!
	12:00am Dean: Many thanks!
	12:00am rw: Thank you Sam! Always a pleasure. ‘Night all!
	🥁 12:01am WR: Thank you! Sam!
	9:25pm marjorie courtney-latimer: Frosted Fool's Gold Flake!
	5:29pm doctorjazz: At the end of my catch up listen (getting tougher-I like to listen to the Drummer Stream Thursday shows, and Sounds Under 64). The last set is up my alley! Also got to the 1st half of the Accordion Marathon CD-great stuff (I'm a bit fan of cool accordion music). Thanks, Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from April 17, 2024

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