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Favoriting May 15, 2024: Traveling Across a Horse Pocked Topography

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Artist Track Album Label Approx. start time
Slint  Ron   Favoriting Tweez  Touch and Go  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Shellac  Watch Song   Favoriting 1000 Hurts  Touch and Go  0:02:51 (Pop-up)
 
STNNNG  Soft Moon, Warm Spider   Favoriting Veterans of Pleasure  Modern Radio  0:14:37 (Pop-up)
Don Caballero  I Never Liked You   Favoriting American Don  Touch and Go  0:17:04 (Pop-up)
Storm & Stress  Piles of Blinkers Slip for New Years   Favoriting Storm & Stress  Touch and Go  0:22:04 (Pop-up)
The Desert Fathers  The Art of Reason   Favoriting The Spirituality  Threespheres  0:24:07 (Pop-up)
A Minor Forest  Speed for Gavin   Favoriting Flemish Altruism (Constituent Parts 1993–1996)  Thrill Jockey  0:26:24 (Pop-up)
Bedhead  Half-thought   Favoriting Transaction De Novo  Numero Group  0:30:19 (Pop-up)
Low  Immune   Favoriting Secret Name  Kranky  0:33:46 (Pop-up)
Palace Music  The Brute Choir   Favoriting Viva Last Blues  Drag City  0:37:17 (Pop-up)
 
Staś Czekalski  Mini Farmer   Favoriting Przygody  Mondoj  0:48:13 (Pop-up)
Birdguy  Ongeveer Daar ft Paper Surgeon   Favoriting Niet Zonder Reden  Something Happening Somewhere  0:51:59 (Pop-up)
Simisea  Cotorra   Favoriting SLINK VOL 1  SLINK  0:54:27 (Pop-up)
Tristan Arp  Polymer   Favoriting The Self Elastic  SLINK  0:59:24 (Pop-up)
Facta  Felt   Favoriting Emeline EP  Incienso  1:03:50 (Pop-up)
ML Buch  Whoosh   Favoriting Suntub  15 Love  1:09:46 (Pop-up)
Papa M  Vivea   Favoriting Hole of Burning Alms  Drag City  1:12:22 (Pop-up)
Loren Connors, Suzanne Langille  Nothing at All   Favoriting Let the Darkness Fall  Secretly Canadian  1:18:37 (Pop-up)
 
Little Kid  What Qualifies as Silence   Favoriting A Million Easy Payments  Orindal  1:25:24 (Pop-up)
Cormac Begley  Cad É Sin Don Té Sin / John Brosnan's Reel (Air & Reel)   Favoriting "B"  Self-Released  1:35:15 (Pop-up)
Danish String Quartet  Sonderho Bridal Trilogy Part III   Favoriting Wood Works  Naxos  1:39:15 (Pop-up)
Geneviève Strosser / Jürg Dähler / Muriel Cantoreggi  Machaut: Ballade XXVI   Favoriting Heinz Holliger / Guillaume de Machaut: Machaut-Transkriptionen  ECM  1:42:39 (Pop-up)
Alexandra Spence & Delphine Dora  Magenta   Favoriting Seasonal Diary II: Lush Abundance  Objects & Sounds  1:47:57 (Pop-up)
Nina Nastasia  Desert Fly   Favoriting The Blackened Air  Touch and Go  1:53:48 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  10:00pm
headcleaner:

Evening, peoples. Dig the signage on the upper left.
  10:01pm
Carmichael:

I like when people are frank with me.
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Manta:

hello all!
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Ike:

Meow!
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Sam Segal:

Evening’s greetings, Headcleaner, Carmichael, Manta, and Ike!
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Sam Segal:

Starting off with a little tribute to the late great Steve Albini tonight.
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WR:

Hi Sam and folks. Before his passing Albini was just a name on other people's album covers. Regret he had to die before I got to hear his recordings of him making music.
  10:13pm
Carmichael:

I was a Guy Caballero fan myself
  10:13pm
Dean:

I am aware of Albini since Big Black, but not at all familiar with his work. What distinguishes his work as an engineer? Why was he dismissive of producers?
  10:15pm
Dean:

I have enjoyed Guy Caballero!
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coelacanth∅:

Greetings Sam, horsepeople
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Sam Segal:

↳ WR @10:09
Yeah, amazing what he accomplished in his own groups. Such a unique, immediately recognizable guitar tone.
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Sam Segal:

↳ coelacanth∅ @10:15
Heyo, Coel!
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @10:13
I guess when it came to the recording side of his work, he wanted to view himself as purely a technician (like a plumber) rather than elevating the role to something that in his mind sounded pretentious or self-important. Something like that.
  10:19pm
Carmichael:

I think he just didn’t like the title. He would rather that it described what he actually did.
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @10:13
As for his sound, I think it really depended on the band he was working with. I hear a lot of similarities across these post-hardcore/noise/math records…a certain cold, crispness to the sound…the drums also feel very “live” and unvarnished.
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tom tom the pipers son:

hello sam and people...
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Sam Segal:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21
Howdy, Tom Tom!
  10:22pm
rw:

Greetings Caballeros!
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Sam Segal:

↳ rw @10:22
Hola, compañero!
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coelacanth∅:

surfer rosa was my introduction to Steve Albini, like many people. but even though that album was Huge for me i never gave any thought about the producer until a few years later when it seemed to be big news that Steve Albini was producing nirvana's new album. then it was easy to put it together, as far as *sound*.
...still i didn't realise the scope of his work until later on when i saw that some of my Scout Niblett albums were produced by him; then i started taking a specific interest in him and what else he had produced.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Sam Segal @10:19
i remember when i was little asking parents &/or older siblings what the "producer" is on the album covers and being very confused, and ultimately unhappy with that title.
i said something like
but the beatles are the ones *producing* the music, aren't they?"
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Sam Segal:

↳ coelacanth∅ @10:29
Hell, I still don’t know what they do! An “engineer” I can picture. Twiddling knobs, moving microphones…that I can picture.
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tom tom the pipers son:

i saw somewhere the reason albini preferred engineer over producer was because most producers he knew didn't know the first thing about engineering
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Sam Segal @10:32
the producer may (or may not) play a bigger role in the *sound* - then directing the engineers to get it....may make suggestion, rearrange songs, etc.
i understand a difference, but i think it's an inappropriate title.
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tom tom the pipers son:

i did condition reporting of art at christies for a short while and i would always refer to the artist's 'production'
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ coelacanth∅ @10:35
"stylist" maybe...
  10:38pm
Dean:

I've heard that, too, tttps, but that's like complaining that we shouldn't call a guitarist a guitarist because they don't know the first thing about drumming.

Anyway, I buy records on occasion almost exclusively because the engineer is a known superior quantity/quality, e.g., Marc Aubort and Joanna Nickrenz, or Marc Rusch. The quality of the recording, its degree of high fidelity, is the draw. Some folks by records according to producer, Eno being a good example. I'm not sure he knows the first thing about high fidelity recording, but he does imprint a sound on his work. Others like Martin Hammett or Steve Lilywhite or Daniel Lanois are all about signature sounds independent of good quality recording.
  10:40pm
Dean:

^some folks buy records
  10:41pm
Dean:

The archetype of producers: Phil Spector.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Dean @10:38
but the act of playing guitar is not as contingent on drumming as producing is on engineering
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coelacanth∅:

with the beatles -as an excellent example -the producer played a very big role in song arrangements and decisions about overall sound, at least in the beginning. he made decisions about what mics to use and how to set them up; choices of instrumentation...etc
but later on, when Geoff Emerick became the main engineer, he made many of these decisions; and he was often the one that figured out how to get the results the beatles desired. there was a lot of crossover.
but the producer gets much more credit, and much more money. Albini thought this is bullshit. which it is.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Dean @10:41
but supporting your comment, when i worked as a set designer, i was sometimes challenged by the lead carpenter on who was the author of the set
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coelacanth∅:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:38
hmm,"stylist". i don't like it but it's better than "producer"
  10:46pm
headcleaner:

Am suddenly intrigued by Duluth, MN
  10:46pm
Dean:

George Martin is a great example! I think I'm getting it. Albini was upset with the inequities of credit. But that seems to me to be an issue distinct from whether or not producers know what they're doing.

My professional email signature identifies me, a librarian, as a "Fact Stylist."
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Dean @10:46
right. some producers know engineering, some don't.
...many engineers eventually become producers.
  10:52pm
Dean:

Happily, Marc Aubort never became a producer. His engineering was supreme. Heretically (is that a word?) from my point of view, he used headphones to engineer! Aaaagh! That should render the entire enterprise deplorable. Yet I adore his work. Some of those recordings are stunningly life-like.
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Sam Segal:

↳ headcleaner @10:46
Wonderful town. Being on Lake Superior makes it feel sort of coastal. Lots of great late 19th century - early 20th century from when Duluth was a busy port city.
  10:56pm
Dean:

Now I need to visit Duluth. Was in Omaha last weekend. Had a great time. I love approximately underdog cities.
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @10:52
Any standout Aubort recordings come to mind, Dean?
  11:02pm
Dean:

Oh, yes. The one that turned me on to him is this Cherubini/Rossini LP:
https://www.discogs.com/release/10067249-Cherubini-Rossini-Los-Angeles-Chamber-Orchestra-Gerard-Schwarz-Sinfonia-In-D-Sinfonia-Al-Conventello

And this Andre Watts Liszt recital is pretty special:
https://www.discogs.com/master/805886-Andr%C3%A9-Watts-Plays-Liszt-Album-1-Six-Grand-Etudes-After-Paganini-Au-Lac-De-Wallenstadt-Il-Penseroso-
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @11:02
Thank you!
  11:08pm
Dean:

By "him" I really mean "them": Aubort and Nickrenz. Unsurprisingly, she gets short shrift.
  11:25pm
Dean:

There's also inside noise.
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @11:25
The noise made by one’s bodily functions?
  11:26pm
Dean:

Yes, but of course not mine! I make no bodily noises.
  11:27pm
Dean:

That was the dog!
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tom tom the pipers son:

if you're in a totally soundproofed room you hear the blood coursing through your body probably ears first
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "What Qualifies as Silence" by "Little Kid"
like this, didn't think it would play this long...
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Sam Segal:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:34
I like how it just maintains that same vibe for the whole nearly 10 minute song.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Sam Segal @11:36
u huh. i think i mentally checked out of it for a minute, but it was right there when i came back
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northguineahills:

got lost after putting my horse to pasture. found my way back...
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Sam Segal:

↳ northguineahills @11:42
And your horse…?
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northguineahills:

the a. di mattina co. is now NYC DOT property now...
  11:45pm
Dean:

Check out the Orlando Consort complete(?) series of recordings on Harmonia Mundi of Machaut's vocal music. Nothing like it. Perfect. Sublime.
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northguineahills:

↳ Sam Segal @11:43
hijo de...!!! perdi mi caballo! soy un idioto. (i mean, it's in the show's title)
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Sam Segal:

↳ Dean @11:45
I will definitely check this out.
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northguineahills:

↳ Song: "Sonderho Bridal Trilogy Part III" by "Danish Stri...
whom's composition was this?
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Sam Segal:

↳ northguineahills @11:47
Danish folk tune.
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northguineahills:

↳ Song: "Half-thought" by "Bedhead"
ack, missed bedhead, a fave indie band of mine....
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Ike:

A horse is a hearse, of course, of course/ And no one can talk to a hearse, or curse/ That is, of course, unless the hearse is the infamous... Judge Dredd?
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Sam Segal:

↳ northguineahills @11:48
I have mainly listened to that Transaction De Novo record. Need to dig into more of their discography.
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tom tom the pipers son:

thanks sam ...have a nice week...
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Sam Segal:

You too, Tom Tom!
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northguineahills:

↳ Song: "Magenta" by "Alexandra Spence & Delphine Dora"
alexandra spence related to alexander spence?
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northguineahills:

↳ Sam Segal @11:51
their live record at the empty bottle is amazing...
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Manta:

↳ Song: "Desert Fly" by "Nina Nastasia"
this was a great send-off song. thanks, Sam!
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WR:

Thank you, Sam and folks. Laters.
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northguineahills:

amazing, sam, wish i got in earlier. thanks again!
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northguineahills:

↳ northguineahills @11:56
amazingly soul crushing good....
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northguineahills:

nice irish gaelic!
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Ike:

Thanks, SS!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Sam!
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doctorjazz:

Queens picture, don't have to go nuts...
In the last set (lots of good live shows Thursday, but catching up now).
Really like that last set, as a general rule, and today. Some ACCORDIAN!
Thanks Sam!
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