WFMU: The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from September 8, 2024

Listener comments!
	🕰 6:59pm Listener Gregory: Good evening, bobby-soxers. Wait, is this the right show?
	🕰 7:02pm WR: That clock thing again. Ha ha.
	🕰 7:05pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:02 It gets funnier the longer you watch it.
	7:06pm DJ Peter: Hey LG and WR! And anyone lurking! Did y'all celebrate Bandcamp Friday?
	🕰 7:07pm WR: ↳ Song: "555" by "Patricia Brennan Septet" I missed the bandcamp listening session for the Patricia Brennan release (damn that pay the bills job). I wish the left the listening chat up to check out who showed and what questions and comments there may have been.
	🕰 7:07pm Listener Gregory: Peter, what does the album title mean? I got a couple of things but managed to show some restraint.
	7:08pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:07 According to Brennan's PR: "Breaking references her desire to push herself and her bandmates to their limits, to mine the transcendent results of virtuosic imaginations confronted by unexpected challenges. Stretch captures her music’s intense elasticity, its ability to stretch from the taut and minutely focused to the wide-angled and reaching. Those extremes are depicted in the album’s striking artwork, a mix of astronomical and volcanic images, placing the cosmic and the subterranean side by side – the differences between the opposing poles, as in Brennan’s work, at times nearly indistinguishable."
	7:09pm CDToaster: @WR: The prior show seemed to have encountered its problem after I acknowledged the coolness of the website you posted.
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:07 The link is active for at least a short while after the session ends, and you can scroll through. Not sure how long it's available. (If really interested, launch into the window before the thing starts and then leave it in the background.)
	🕰 7:10pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:06 Celebrate? As LG commented, restraint must be mustered.
	🕰 7:10pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:08 Hmm, I would have said that breaking stretch is a bad thing. When you feel the tension in your stretch, stop there and enjoy it. If you break it, you will be sorry later.
	🕰 7:11pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:10 (That comment supplied by my calf muscles.)
	7:12pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:11 My shin muscles for sure relate.
	🕰 7:16pm WR: ↳ CDToaster @7:09 CDToaster, for some reason the host didn't connect today. All the music from about 3:12 ET until DJ Peter started was from the Drummer Stream auto play. The web page of that site I linked that shows the tracks played has to be manually refreshed to show the new tracks played. Unless you use the player on that site, which I usually don't do, I just refresh the browser as needed.
	7:17pm CDToaster: @WR: Thanks, I had a fun and productive day here in Manhattanville with a surprise twist during the previous fine show. I love that link!
	🕰 7:19pm WR: ↳ Song: "Surge" by "Charles McPherson" Wow, a recent Charles McPherson recording! Nice hear that he is still active.
	7:20pm CDToaster: @WR: Thanks for the lesson on how to navigate that site.
	7:21pm doctorjazz: Hello Clockmeisters!
	🕰 7:23pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:19 I encountered Charles McPherson as a member of Mingus's band in the 60s (well, I encountered the records). I wonder if he is the only band member still alive.
	🕰 7:23pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:21 You're late! The clock is frowning.
	7:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:23 Busy day, thrown together dinner (I know, no late pass, I'm in trouble)
	🕰 7:24pm WR: Smoke Sessions also recently released a new Steve Turre recording. I have lots of Smoke Sessions releases in my bc wishlist.
	7:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ CDToaster @7:20 Hi Doc -- you charged up now? McPherson was in the band with I wanna say... Lonnie Hillyer was the trumpet? Not someone who I followed post-Mingus. So McPherson could well be the last living.
	7:25pm DJ Peter: "Sanctuary City" here robbing from Wayne Shorter's "Sanctuary"
	🕰 7:26pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:24 He's 85 now.
	🕰 7:26pm WR: ↳ doctorjazz @7:24 Doctorjazz! Any pup update?
	7:29pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @7:26 She's home, x-tests and blood tests normal (except 1- a low cortisol level. Which could mean a rare condition, Addison Disease, an interactive adrenal gland. Most likely it's a lab error. But likely will mean more testing.)
	🕰 7:31pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:29 Oy. Is she feeling ok (so far as you can tell)?
	7:32pm CDToaster: @DJ Peter: Hi! DJ, I think you sent me a message you meant to send a different listener. If not, thanks for the information but I'm not an enthusiast per se (lol)
	7:32pm doctorjazz: Haven't been to Smoke in a while-nice club, though they do pack them in to much (but what club doesn't? At the Vanguard you can feel the breath of the people at the next table)
	🕰 7:33pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:24 What's the cut off on Mingus alumni? There were some youngish players with him in the mis 79s. Maybe Ricky Ford was the youngest.
	7:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:31 She seems fine (after scaring us vomiting vomiting blood 3 times this morning). Eating, playful, usual self.
	7:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ CDToaster @7:32 Yeah I was gonna say something about the website but WR handled it so I canceled that message. (And sent you the one for Doc instead.) We're all family here.
	7:37pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:33 Well this is one of those questions that provokes fun arguments... do you only count "working band" and not "recording session"? E.g. "Three or Four Shades of Blues" featured John Scofield, Philip Catherine, and Larry Cornell. But do they count?
	🕰 7:37pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:33 Yeah, some of the latest bands have living personnel. John Scofield played with him, though maybe only on one album.
	🕰 7:37pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:34 Good!
	🕰 7:38pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:37 Peter, please don't steal my comments!
	🕰 7:40pm WR: Am I totally spaced or what? I did not notice you doing back announce a few minutes ago and the track playing doesn't seem like the personnel you list for the Kurt Rosenwinkel recording.
	🕰 7:41pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:40 See if you're on the right stream. That has happened to me, shamefully.
	🕰 7:44pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:41 LOL, you are right. I accidentally started the Turre Session recording on the bandcamp page. 🤪
	7:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:38 We long ago revealed that we think much alike, Gregory.
	7:45pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "A Shifting Design" by "Kurt Rosenwinkel" This was cool-I think of Rosenwinkel as a straight ahead jazzer, not exactly "out", but pretty abstract (in a Wayne Shorter sorta way).
	7:45pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:44 I've done that. and been very confused.
	7:47pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:45 Yeah, I don't know his leader albums that well actually. "not exactly out" is a good way to put it -- he was a Paul Motion sideman, so...
	🕰 7:48pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 I have commented on music that was playing on a different program. I assume the readers concluded that I was insane.
	🕰 7:49pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 When on a computer the multiple sources play so I at least know something odd is happening. I'm on my phone which only plays 1 audio source and evidently "segued" smoothly enough that I was fooled.
	7:50pm DJ Peter: Ranaan is a young 'un, just found this profile online: insearchofmag.com...
	🕰 7:51pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:48 A not unusual event with listeners often multiple stream listening.
	🕰 7:54pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:50 She's good. The thing is, there have always been young new players. It is just that they seem younger to us each year.
	7:57pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:54 I heard that
	🕰 7:58pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:50 Nice interview of Neta Raanan, thanks for the link.
	8:01pm doctorjazz: I'm guilty of the posting on the wrong board thing as well...embarassing.
	🕰 8:01pm Listener Gregory: Did I read that Joel Ross left BlueNote to sign with Nonesuch? That seems strange to me. I think he didn’t want to be pigeonholed as a jazz musician.
	8:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello dj peter... et al
	8:04pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @7:54 Must be a function of aging-she looks like a teen to me... (was at a wedding last weekend-seemed the couple needed someone to put them to bed and sing a lullabye...)
	8:04pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:01 Oh I don't know. But you read Downbeat I think? Maybe there? Hey tom tom the pipers son!
	8:04pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @8:04 (MY aging...)
	8:05pm Dean: I need to investigate Raanan (and I agree with WR; it doesn't help to treat the perhaps young as merely young). But I do hope artists (or their agents or the media) will give up with the "passion" shit. Nobody on this planet understands what passion entails.
	8:07pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:05 i'd like to know ho this 'passion' idiocy started
	🕰 8:08pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Dean @8:05 I once passed a warehouse that sold pallets (you know, for piling boxes on), and they had a big sign saying “Pallets are our passion!” Reductio ad absurdam.
	8:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:08 ha ha!
	8:10pm tom tom the pipers son: but on the other hand...there's 'crashin' from passion' by betty davis who i take at her word
	8:12pm Jeff g. via app: Hi! It’s cool out, but it’s cooler in here.
	8:13pm Dean: To me, passion means the disposition of Jesus Christ at his crucifixion. I don't happen to believe in any of that story, but I do believe in not fucking with language for purposes of marketing commodities. Cut it out, peeps. Your "passion" is more likely "something I'd get a kick out of doing for awhile."
	8:13pm tom tom the pipers son: hi jeff.....!
	8:13pm CDToaster: @DJ Peter: You're so right and there's nothing like feeling at home with family - the fmu family. Thanks dj.
	8:14pm Dean: And yet I do have a passion for pallets.
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:14 "Pallets! There where you'll find what's for dinner!"
	8:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 yes it is a marketing ploy... but there's a psychology to it to embed marketing in the consciousness
	8:16pm Dean: Firesign Theatre?
	🕰 8:17pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:04 Can't find any evidence for that Joel Ross news I just passed, so I may have hallucinated it. Or perhaps there's a massive conspiracy... Anyway, don't bet any serious money on that "news."
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app @8:12 Hey Jeff -- looking forward to going out with Marion Brown via archive (boarded a plane mid show). Hope you had a good time spinning tracks!
	8:18pm Jeff g. via app: :)
	8:19pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Point of No Return" by "Rein de Graaff/Dick Venni... Purty piano playin'!
	8:20pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 and that you bring religion into it is resonant...passion in it's current use is an elision of religion and marketing
	🕰 8:20pm Listener Gregory: This Dutch stuff is really good.
	🕰 8:21pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Dean @8:13 FYI, commenting is my passion!
	8:23pm doctorjazz: WE met a dog at the Vet ER named Shayna Meidel Puppick, which is yiddish for "pretty girl bellybutton" -?????
	8:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Point of No Return" by "Rein de Graaff/Dick Venni... Lotta Tyner...
	8:24pm tom tom the pipers son: i wonder about the milieu that this dutch scene took place in..most likely gov't supported and the artist individually gov't supported not that that makes me think less of it
	8:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:24 Not a bad thing to ply your trade/art, and be able to afford room and board.
	8:25pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:24 I don't recall right now what Kevin Whitehead's NEW DUTCH SWING book says about government support
	🕰 8:25pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:17 The good news is that my searching for that led me to find that I could DL and read a recent issue of Downbeat.
	8:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @8:24 yes not implying that
	8:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:25 oh...
	8:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:25 implying that it wasn't
	8:28pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @8:25 I don't know how substantial the support from the government is, but they do support jazz artists in the Netherlands.
	8:29pm Dean: So, very first entry in OED for the noun "passion": A narrative of Jesus's Passion (see sense I.1c), esp. an account from the Gospels. Also: (esp. in later use) a piece of music, play, etc., representing or depicting the Passion. Cf. passion play n. 1. My gripe is two-fold: Most people who use "passion" are wittingly or not being figurative, and their readers are unwittingly hearing the word as somehow literal. Okay, whatever, that's fine. Second, to my mind nobody is passionate about anything. Maybe capitalists are passionate about profit, but I actually doubt it. Wanting something real bad is not passion.
	8:33pm tom tom the pipers son: there was a soap opera called 'passions' and i think elizabeth taylor's perfume was called 'passion'...i think
	8:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:33 correct^^^^^^^
	🕰 8:35pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @8:28 The book Is Jazz Dead?: Or Has It Moved to a New Address? argues that the popular decline of jazz in the US is due to lack of support as an art form. Maybe out of date now, but it discusses the economic differences between Europe and the US.
	8:35pm doctorjazz: Gotta take my daughter to the train back to NYC, will listen in the car, but giving thanks for the great sounds now. Thanks, DJ Peter. Great Week All (and I could use a better one...)
	8:36pm DJ Peter: Hang in there Doc and Doc-fam!
	8:36pm tom tom the pipers son: take care dr.jazz
	🕰 8:39pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Hat and Beard" by "Junko Onishi" I was a big fan of Onishi and v disappointed when she left the (US?) scene.
	8:44pm Dean: I have yet to peel open my copy of the Hutcherson Mosaic box.
	8:47pm spodiodi: greetings, DJ Peter and all! (here for a song or two), wish i heard more
	8:49pm DJ Peter: Hey spodiodi... you know we have a way for you to hear archived shows... :-)
	8:50pm DJ Peter: I don't know if Onishi has played in the US, but you are right that her Japanese albums have not been distributed Stateside since... yikes 1998's Fragile on Blue Note? But she has a dozen albums since mostly on "Somethin' Cool"
	8:51pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:44 Many riches lie within, Dean!
	8:51pm spodiodi: ↳ DJ Peter @8:49 indeed, i do :) grazie
	🕰 8:52pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:50 Somethin’ Else?
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:52 sister labels.
	🕰 8:53pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "In See" by "Peter Evans" Second Jim Black–trumpet album this year.
	🕰 8:54pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:53 Will check them out.
	8:55pm Dean: Nothing like watching Jim Black maul the skins. He can't stop smiling!
	8:55pm spodiodi: thank you, DJ Peter!
	8:56pm spodiodi: we used to use pillow cases for halloween candy
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks dj peter....
	🕰 8:57pm Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Peter. Your show is my passion!
	8:57pm spodiodi: but i love "candy purse" :) keeping that one ⭐️
	8:58pm CDToaster: DJ Peter is passionate!
	8:59pm Dean: In lieu of "passion" I use "cruddy nose-picker." DJ Peter, you are my cruddy nose-picker!
	8:59pm DJ Peter: Hey everybody, just realized Solo Mon is under the weather... sorry for the mislead!
	🕰 8:59pm Listener Gregory: Peter looks up things so we don’t have to.
	9:00pm DJ Peter: Thanks for being here! Nogood Nick will be covering next Sunday but then I should be back!
	🕰 9:00pm WR: Thank you! Peter!

The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from September 8, 2024

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Obscure musical gems, avant experimentation, and classics worth rehearing. A conurbation of Leslie speakers, timbales, plungers, arch-tops, tablas, and squeaky reeds. Black ties, pork pies, Cuban boots, Nudie suits, bobbysocks, turtlenecks, and high-heeled sneakers. Jazz is the north star but it’s a wide universe, so says The Laughing Clock.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Count Basie	M Squad Theme (excerpt)	Basic Basie	MPS	1969	Eric Dixon (fl) Freddie Green (g) Norman Keenan (b) Harold Jones (d) Chico O'Farrill (arr), et al.		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Red Garland	M Squad Theme "M Squad Theme" by "Red Garland"	Red In Bluesville	Prestige	1969	4/17/1959: Red Garland (p) Sam Jones (b) Art Taylor (d)		0:00:32 (Pop-up)
Patricia Brennan Septet	555 "555" by "Patricia Brennan Septet"	Breaking Stretch	Pyroclastic	2024	September 2023: Brennan (vibes w/ electronics, marimba), Jon Irabagon (alto & sopranino sax), Mark Shim (tenor sax), Adam O'Farrill (trumpet), Marcus Gilmore (drums), Mauricio Herrera (percussion), Kim Cass (bass)	*	0:03:33 (Pop-up)
Zaccai Curtis	Moose the Mooche "Moose the Mooche" by "Zaccai Curtis"	Cubop Lives!	Truth Revolution Recording Collective	2024	Curtis (piano), Willie Martinez (drums, voice, timbales), Camilo Molina (percussion), Reinaldo De Jesus (percussion, drums), Luques Curtis (bass).	*	0:10:12 (Pop-up)
Charles McPherson	Surge "Surge" by "Charles McPherson"	Reverence	Smoke Sessions	2024	November 2023: Terell Stafford (trumpet), Charles McPherson (alto sax,) Jeb Patton (piano), David Wong (bass), Billy Drummond (drums)	*	0:14:15 (Pop-up)
Miguel Zenón	Sanctuary City "Sanctuary City" by "Miguel Zenón"	Golden City	Miel Music	2024	November 2023. Miguel Zenón - alto saxophone. Matt Mitchell – piano. Chris Tordini – bass. Dan Weiss – drums. Miles Okazaki – guitar. Daniel Díaz - congas, tripandero and percussion. Diego Urcola - trumpet and valve trombone. Alan Ferber - trombone. Jacob Garchik - tuba and trombone.	*	0:20:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Don Pullen	Big Alice (alternate take)	Richard's Tune	Sackville		2014 CD reissue of "Solo Piano Album" with two bonus tracks. Recorded 1975.		0:27:07 (Pop-up)
Kurt Rosenwinkel	A Shifting Design	The Next Step Band (Live at Smalls 1996) JULY 26	Heartcore	2024	1996. Mark Turner (ts) Kurt Rosenwinkel (g) Ben Street (b) Jeff Ballard (d)	*	0:31:07 (Pop-up)
Neta Raanan	CY "CY" by "Neta Raanan"	Unforseen Blossom	Giant Step Arts	2024	April 2023: Raanan (tenor sax), Joel Ross (vibes), Simón Willson (bass), Kayvon Gordon (drums)	*	0:40:52 (Pop-up)
Caroline Davis	City Flora "City Flora" by "Caroline Davis"	Portals vol. 2: Returning	Intakt	2024	December 2022: Davis (alto sax), Marquis Hill (trumpet), Julian Shore (piano), Chris Tordini (bass), Allan Mednard (drums), Nappy Nina (spoken word lyrics), Joan Anson-Weber (poetry)	*	0:51:25 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mary Lou Williams	Medi I "Medi I" by "Mary Lou Williams"	Zoning	Smithsonian Folkways		1/17/1974, with Bob Cranshaw (bass guitar). DJP edit.		0:56:40 (Pop-up)
Radio Rerun: The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited (1977)
Michiel de Ruyter & Radio Nederland/Dutch World Broadcasting System	Program 6: Rein de Graaff/Dick Vennik Quartet	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited	Radio Nederland	1977			0:59:15 (Pop-up)
Rein de Graaff/Dick Vennik Quartet	Blue Bossa	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited			10/12/1975 (Laren): Dick Vennik (tenor sax), Rein de Graaff (piano), Roger Cooke (bass), Erik Ineke (drums)		1:00:04 (Pop-up)
Rein de Graaff/Dick Vennik Quartet	I Waited For You	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited					1:07:37 (Pop-up)
Rein de Graaff/Dick Vennik Quartet	Point of No Return	The Dutch Jazz Scene Revisited					1:16:54 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ: Susie Ibarra Trio	Dreams (Alternate Take)	Radiance	Hopscotch	1999	7/18/1999: Cooper-Moore (p,harp,diddley-bo) Charles Burnham (vln) Susie Ibarra (d,perc)		1:27:54 (Pop-up)
Anthony Braxton	Composition no. 138 M	Solo (Koln) 1978	Leo	2002	5/4/1978.		1:29:47 (Pop-up)
Junko Onishi	Hat and Beard "Hat and Beard" by "Junko Onishi"	Musical Moments	Somethin' Else	2009	Spring 2009: Junko Onishi (p) Yosuke Inoue (b) Gene Jackson (d)		1:36:22 (Pop-up)
Bobby Hutcherson	Rojo (alternate take)	Classic Bobby Hutcherson Blue Note Sessions 1963-1970	Mosaic	2024	2/8/1966: Bobby Hutcherson (vib) Herbie Hancock (p) Bob Cranshaw (b) Joe Chambers (d)	*	1:41:50 (Pop-up)
Peter Evans	In See "In See" by "Peter Evans"	Extra	We Jazz	2024	August 2023: Peter Evans, piccolo trumpet, flugelhorn & piano. Petter Eldh, bass & synthesizer. Jim Black, drums & electronics	*	1:48:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Joe Chambers Moving Picture Orchestra	M Squad Theme	Live at Dizzy's Club Coca-Cola	Savant	2012	September 2011. Craig Handy (tenor sax), David Weiss (trumpet), Xavier Davis (piano), Dwayne Burno (bass), Joe Chambers (drums, vibes, arranger), Steve Berrios (percussion), et al.		1:53:42 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🕰 6:59pm Listener Gregory: Good evening, bobby-soxers. Wait, is this the right show?
	🕰 7:02pm WR: That clock thing again. Ha ha.
	🕰 7:05pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:02 It gets funnier the longer you watch it.
	7:06pm DJ Peter: Hey LG and WR! And anyone lurking! Did y'all celebrate Bandcamp Friday?
	🕰 7:07pm WR: ↳ Song: "555" by "Patricia Brennan Septet" I missed the bandcamp listening session for the Patricia Brennan release (damn that pay the bills job). I wish the left the listening chat up to check out who showed and what questions and comments there may have been.
	🕰 7:07pm Listener Gregory: Peter, what does the album title mean? I got a couple of things but managed to show some restraint.
	7:08pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:07 According to Brennan's PR: "Breaking references her desire to push herself and her bandmates to their limits, to mine the transcendent results of virtuosic imaginations confronted by unexpected challenges. Stretch captures her music’s intense elasticity, its ability to stretch from the taut and minutely focused to the wide-angled and reaching. Those extremes are depicted in the album’s striking artwork, a mix of astronomical and volcanic images, placing the cosmic and the subterranean side by side – the differences between the opposing poles, as in Brennan’s work, at times nearly indistinguishable."
	7:09pm CDToaster: @WR: The prior show seemed to have encountered its problem after I acknowledged the coolness of the website you posted.
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:07 The link is active for at least a short while after the session ends, and you can scroll through. Not sure how long it's available. (If really interested, launch into the window before the thing starts and then leave it in the background.)
	🕰 7:10pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:06 Celebrate? As LG commented, restraint must be mustered.
	🕰 7:10pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:08 Hmm, I would have said that breaking stretch is a bad thing. When you feel the tension in your stretch, stop there and enjoy it. If you break it, you will be sorry later.
	🕰 7:11pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:10 (That comment supplied by my calf muscles.)
	7:12pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:11 My shin muscles for sure relate.
	🕰 7:16pm WR: ↳ CDToaster @7:09 CDToaster, for some reason the host didn't connect today. All the music from about 3:12 ET until DJ Peter started was from the Drummer Stream auto play. The web page of that site I linked that shows the tracks played has to be manually refreshed to show the new tracks played. Unless you use the player on that site, which I usually don't do, I just refresh the browser as needed.
	7:17pm CDToaster: @WR: Thanks, I had a fun and productive day here in Manhattanville with a surprise twist during the previous fine show. I love that link!
	🕰 7:19pm WR: ↳ Song: "Surge" by "Charles McPherson" Wow, a recent Charles McPherson recording! Nice hear that he is still active.
	7:20pm CDToaster: @WR: Thanks for the lesson on how to navigate that site.
	7:21pm doctorjazz: Hello Clockmeisters!
	🕰 7:23pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:19 I encountered Charles McPherson as a member of Mingus's band in the 60s (well, I encountered the records). I wonder if he is the only band member still alive.
	🕰 7:23pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:21 You're late! The clock is frowning.
	7:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:23 Busy day, thrown together dinner (I know, no late pass, I'm in trouble)
	🕰 7:24pm WR: Smoke Sessions also recently released a new Steve Turre recording. I have lots of Smoke Sessions releases in my bc wishlist.
	7:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ CDToaster @7:20 Hi Doc -- you charged up now? McPherson was in the band with I wanna say... Lonnie Hillyer was the trumpet? Not someone who I followed post-Mingus. So McPherson could well be the last living.
	7:25pm DJ Peter: "Sanctuary City" here robbing from Wayne Shorter's "Sanctuary"
	🕰 7:26pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:24 He's 85 now.
	🕰 7:26pm WR: ↳ doctorjazz @7:24 Doctorjazz! Any pup update?
	7:29pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @7:26 She's home, x-tests and blood tests normal (except 1- a low cortisol level. Which could mean a rare condition, Addison Disease, an interactive adrenal gland. Most likely it's a lab error. But likely will mean more testing.)
	🕰 7:31pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:29 Oy. Is she feeling ok (so far as you can tell)?
	7:32pm CDToaster: @DJ Peter: Hi! DJ, I think you sent me a message you meant to send a different listener. If not, thanks for the information but I'm not an enthusiast per se (lol)
	7:32pm doctorjazz: Haven't been to Smoke in a while-nice club, though they do pack them in to much (but what club doesn't? At the Vanguard you can feel the breath of the people at the next table)
	🕰 7:33pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:24 What's the cut off on Mingus alumni? There were some youngish players with him in the mis 79s. Maybe Ricky Ford was the youngest.
	7:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:31 She seems fine (after scaring us vomiting vomiting blood 3 times this morning). Eating, playful, usual self.
	7:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ CDToaster @7:32 Yeah I was gonna say something about the website but WR handled it so I canceled that message. (And sent you the one for Doc instead.) We're all family here.
	7:37pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:33 Well this is one of those questions that provokes fun arguments... do you only count "working band" and not "recording session"? E.g. "Three or Four Shades of Blues" featured John Scofield, Philip Catherine, and Larry Cornell. But do they count?
	🕰 7:37pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:33 Yeah, some of the latest bands have living personnel. John Scofield played with him, though maybe only on one album.
	🕰 7:37pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:34 Good!
	🕰 7:38pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:37 Peter, please don't steal my comments!
	🕰 7:40pm WR: Am I totally spaced or what? I did not notice you doing back announce a few minutes ago and the track playing doesn't seem like the personnel you list for the Kurt Rosenwinkel recording.
	🕰 7:41pm Listener Gregory: ↳ WR @7:40 See if you're on the right stream. That has happened to me, shamefully.
	🕰 7:44pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:41 LOL, you are right. I accidentally started the Turre Session recording on the bandcamp page. 🤪
	7:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:38 We long ago revealed that we think much alike, Gregory.
	7:45pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "A Shifting Design" by "Kurt Rosenwinkel" This was cool-I think of Rosenwinkel as a straight ahead jazzer, not exactly "out", but pretty abstract (in a Wayne Shorter sorta way).
	7:45pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:44 I've done that. and been very confused.
	7:47pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:45 Yeah, I don't know his leader albums that well actually. "not exactly out" is a good way to put it -- he was a Paul Motion sideman, so...
	🕰 7:48pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 I have commented on music that was playing on a different program. I assume the readers concluded that I was insane.
	🕰 7:49pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:45 When on a computer the multiple sources play so I at least know something odd is happening. I'm on my phone which only plays 1 audio source and evidently "segued" smoothly enough that I was fooled.
	7:50pm DJ Peter: Ranaan is a young 'un, just found this profile online: insearchofmag.com...
	🕰 7:51pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:48 A not unusual event with listeners often multiple stream listening.
	🕰 7:54pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:50 She's good. The thing is, there have always been young new players. It is just that they seem younger to us each year.
	7:57pm DJ Peter: ↳ WR @7:54 I heard that
	🕰 7:58pm WR: ↳ DJ Peter @7:50 Nice interview of Neta Raanan, thanks for the link.
	8:01pm doctorjazz: I'm guilty of the posting on the wrong board thing as well...embarassing.
	🕰 8:01pm Listener Gregory: Did I read that Joel Ross left BlueNote to sign with Nonesuch? That seems strange to me. I think he didn’t want to be pigeonholed as a jazz musician.
	8:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello dj peter... et al
	8:04pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @7:54 Must be a function of aging-she looks like a teen to me... (was at a wedding last weekend-seemed the couple needed someone to put them to bed and sing a lullabye...)
	8:04pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:01 Oh I don't know. But you read Downbeat I think? Maybe there? Hey tom tom the pipers son!
	8:04pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @8:04 (MY aging...)
	8:05pm Dean: I need to investigate Raanan (and I agree with WR; it doesn't help to treat the perhaps young as merely young). But I do hope artists (or their agents or the media) will give up with the "passion" shit. Nobody on this planet understands what passion entails.
	8:07pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:05 i'd like to know ho this 'passion' idiocy started
	🕰 8:08pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Dean @8:05 I once passed a warehouse that sold pallets (you know, for piling boxes on), and they had a big sign saying “Pallets are our passion!” Reductio ad absurdam.
	8:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:08 ha ha!
	8:10pm tom tom the pipers son: but on the other hand...there's 'crashin' from passion' by betty davis who i take at her word
	8:12pm Jeff g. via app: Hi! It’s cool out, but it’s cooler in here.
	8:13pm Dean: To me, passion means the disposition of Jesus Christ at his crucifixion. I don't happen to believe in any of that story, but I do believe in not fucking with language for purposes of marketing commodities. Cut it out, peeps. Your "passion" is more likely "something I'd get a kick out of doing for awhile."
	8:13pm tom tom the pipers son: hi jeff.....!
	8:13pm CDToaster: @DJ Peter: You're so right and there's nothing like feeling at home with family - the fmu family. Thanks dj.
	8:14pm Dean: And yet I do have a passion for pallets.
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:14 "Pallets! There where you'll find what's for dinner!"
	8:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 yes it is a marketing ploy... but there's a psychology to it to embed marketing in the consciousness
	8:16pm Dean: Firesign Theatre?
	🕰 8:17pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:04 Can't find any evidence for that Joel Ross news I just passed, so I may have hallucinated it. Or perhaps there's a massive conspiracy... Anyway, don't bet any serious money on that "news."
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app @8:12 Hey Jeff -- looking forward to going out with Marion Brown via archive (boarded a plane mid show). Hope you had a good time spinning tracks!
	8:18pm Jeff g. via app: :)
	8:19pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Point of No Return" by "Rein de Graaff/Dick Venni... Purty piano playin'!
	8:20pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @8:13 and that you bring religion into it is resonant...passion in it's current use is an elision of religion and marketing
	🕰 8:20pm Listener Gregory: This Dutch stuff is really good.
	🕰 8:21pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Dean @8:13 FYI, commenting is my passion!
	8:23pm doctorjazz: WE met a dog at the Vet ER named Shayna Meidel Puppick, which is yiddish for "pretty girl bellybutton" -?????
	8:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Point of No Return" by "Rein de Graaff/Dick Venni... Lotta Tyner...
	8:24pm tom tom the pipers son: i wonder about the milieu that this dutch scene took place in..most likely gov't supported and the artist individually gov't supported not that that makes me think less of it
	8:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:24 Not a bad thing to ply your trade/art, and be able to afford room and board.
	8:25pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:24 I don't recall right now what Kevin Whitehead's NEW DUTCH SWING book says about government support
	🕰 8:25pm WR: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:17 The good news is that my searching for that led me to find that I could DL and read a recent issue of Downbeat.
	8:25pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @8:24 yes not implying that
	8:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:25 oh...
	8:27pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:25 implying that it wasn't
	8:28pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @8:25 I don't know how substantial the support from the government is, but they do support jazz artists in the Netherlands.
	8:29pm Dean: So, very first entry in OED for the noun "passion": A narrative of Jesus's Passion (see sense I.1c), esp. an account from the Gospels. Also: (esp. in later use) a piece of music, play, etc., representing or depicting the Passion. Cf. passion play n. 1. My gripe is two-fold: Most people who use "passion" are wittingly or not being figurative, and their readers are unwittingly hearing the word as somehow literal. Okay, whatever, that's fine. Second, to my mind nobody is passionate about anything. Maybe capitalists are passionate about profit, but I actually doubt it. Wanting something real bad is not passion.
	8:33pm tom tom the pipers son: there was a soap opera called 'passions' and i think elizabeth taylor's perfume was called 'passion'...i think
	8:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:33 correct^^^^^^^
	🕰 8:35pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @8:28 The book Is Jazz Dead?: Or Has It Moved to a New Address? argues that the popular decline of jazz in the US is due to lack of support as an art form. Maybe out of date now, but it discusses the economic differences between Europe and the US.
	8:35pm doctorjazz: Gotta take my daughter to the train back to NYC, will listen in the car, but giving thanks for the great sounds now. Thanks, DJ Peter. Great Week All (and I could use a better one...)
	8:36pm DJ Peter: Hang in there Doc and Doc-fam!
	8:36pm tom tom the pipers son: take care dr.jazz
	🕰 8:39pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Hat and Beard" by "Junko Onishi" I was a big fan of Onishi and v disappointed when she left the (US?) scene.
	8:44pm Dean: I have yet to peel open my copy of the Hutcherson Mosaic box.
	8:47pm spodiodi: greetings, DJ Peter and all! (here for a song or two), wish i heard more
	8:49pm DJ Peter: Hey spodiodi... you know we have a way for you to hear archived shows... :-)
	8:50pm DJ Peter: I don't know if Onishi has played in the US, but you are right that her Japanese albums have not been distributed Stateside since... yikes 1998's Fragile on Blue Note? But she has a dozen albums since mostly on "Somethin' Cool"
	8:51pm DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @8:44 Many riches lie within, Dean!
	8:51pm spodiodi: ↳ DJ Peter @8:49 indeed, i do :) grazie
	🕰 8:52pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:50 Somethin’ Else?
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:52 sister labels.
	🕰 8:53pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "In See" by "Peter Evans" Second Jim Black–trumpet album this year.
	🕰 8:54pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @8:53 Will check them out.
	8:55pm Dean: Nothing like watching Jim Black maul the skins. He can't stop smiling!
	8:55pm spodiodi: thank you, DJ Peter!
	8:56pm spodiodi: we used to use pillow cases for halloween candy
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks dj peter....
	🕰 8:57pm Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Peter. Your show is my passion!
	8:57pm spodiodi: but i love "candy purse" :) keeping that one ⭐️
	8:58pm CDToaster: DJ Peter is passionate!
	8:59pm Dean: In lieu of "passion" I use "cruddy nose-picker." DJ Peter, you are my cruddy nose-picker!
	8:59pm DJ Peter: Hey everybody, just realized Solo Mon is under the weather... sorry for the mislead!
	🕰 8:59pm Listener Gregory: Peter looks up things so we don’t have to.
	9:00pm DJ Peter: Thanks for being here! Nogood Nick will be covering next Sunday but then I should be back!
	🕰 9:00pm WR: Thank you! Peter!

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