WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 7, 2024

Listener comments!
	5:55pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtoceanians!
	6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:03pm cosmic matrix: hello all
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Mark, all.
	🤖 6:05pm DjLorraine: Im teched in, Hi Mark and all
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: AI artwork? NFTs? Why not both, in postage stamp form. pivot-to-ai.com...
	6:07pm Glistener MW: “let’s call her listener Lisa S… hmm, no no, that’s much too obvious. Let’s call her listener L Simpson.”
	6:07pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and techies.
	🤖 6:08pm Deano de los Muertos: Hi Mark and folx
	6:09pm traven: Recently John Kerry spoke out against free speech - as he described it as "misinformation".
	6:09pm joe_rosevear: Howdy, all!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, DiL, chresti, cosmic, Handy, DjL, KfHP, MW, Peter, Deano, traven, and joe_r - welcome!
	🤖 6:10pm Webhamster Henry: Today's topic is : Yipe!
	6:14pm spodiodi: greetings, Mark and all
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi spodiodi!
	6:22pm Sam: Good evening. I’m convinced this is the real reason they legalized pot, since that’s one of the laws that millions of ordinary people routinely broke. Pot users would have been up in arms over surveillance, but now you don’t really have to worry about it so they can go back to the comfortable “I’ve got nothing to hide” category.
	6:24pm Billybob: ↳ traven @6:09 Just the other day, Hillary called for increased limits on free speech, otherwise "we lose total control".
	🤖 6:27pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Sam @6:22 that does make a lot of sense. plus the workload of policing of all that weed action
	6:27pm Sam: People say “We’re democracies so we can have the infrastructure of dictatorships and be fine.” That was such an excellent point!
	6:29pm Billybob: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:05 I kinda like some of the AI artwork I've neen seeing on the 'net. On Youtube yesterday, I saw an ad featuring an illustration of a '50s era housewife wearing a dress, preparing food in the kitchen. Everything looked really good, except for her legs which were backwards.
	🤖 6:33pm PaulRobeson1924: Privacy ain’t what it used to be… what’s goin’ on
	🤖 6:34pm PaulRobeson1924: lawenforcementactionpartnership.org...
	6:34pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:24 I would be inclined to say that the Constitution of the United States makes it perfectly clear that there are no infringements on the 1st amendment.
	6:39pm Billybob: ↳ traven @6:34 Some people would like there to be.
	🤖 6:41pm PaulRobeson1924: Drugs are the largest commodity in the world. Where is all that $ going… in the United States we have the right to determine our own behavior with the corresponding obligation to take responsibility for our actions… the law has the ability to make a crime out of things that are not crimes- that is the issue. “The juridical discourse brings to life that which it pronounces”
	6:41pm Sam: Time to go back to cash under the mattress just like during the Depression.
	6:41pm spodiodi: arb's last The Arbitrarium playlist had a sweet picture on it (relative to this show): wfmu.org... love it. love that somebody put that there
	🤖 6:44pm Deano de los Muertos: ↳ spodiodi @6:41 ✝️🔊
	6:44pm Sam: And Elon’s buddy will surely never use any of this cornucopia of information inappropriately against anyone if he wins, given his deep respect for democracy.
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1924: Time is value neutral…
	6:46pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:39 If people like John Kerry or Hillary Clinton (barf) ever get in the driver's seat, the American people are in very deep do- do.
	🤖 6:46pm cosmic matrix: this was a great interview. hooray for silkie and her organization!
	6:46pm ultradamno: I believe, in one event, Musk set back the cause of bringing back the pogo dance fifty years.
	6:47pm Sam: Fantastic interview Mark, thanks!
	6:48pm Sam: Watch out Big Brother, Big Brother Watch is Watching You!
	6:49pm Henry Hudson's Distant Relative: Everything tracked for me until Silkie Carlo promoted Elon Musk's social media platform. That's becoming a deal-breaker for me.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Mark, you can just call it the Corptocracy.
	6:50pm Marie in Chicago: Hey Mark, thanks. APU, great topic. I never knew that that happened to the truckers. That's awful. I'll be signing up for the Big Brow Watch email
	6:50pm Billybob: I wonder what the thinking is of protests designed to prevent others from speaking. My politics began to shift in the 90s when I observed a flyer on a telephone pole in San Francisco, calling for people to come to Berkeley to protest a neo-Nazi from speaking. Now I hate the whole Nazi thing as much as the next guy, but still I thought "this is the home of the free speech movement?".
	6:51pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: ACLU thinking, Billybob, has worked so well thus far !
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: Baby? I am America
	6:52pm Billybob: Oh, the protest in my previous comment was designed to prevent the neo Nazi from speaking.
	6:53pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Billybob @6:52 yep, i remember that and had the same thoughts, it seems.
	6:53pm chris in the redwoods: great interview, Mark. thank you!
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark.
	6:55pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:50 I agree with you 100%.
	🤖 6:55pm Deano de los Muertos: Thank you Mark
	6:55pm spodiodi: thank, Mark! keep doing good work
	6:55pm spodiodi: s*
	🤖 6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Well said, Mark
	6:57pm secret commenter: A lot of countries try to reasonably mitigate misinformation about matters of public health
	6:57pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: Wait, I like healthy fish too.
	🤖 6:57pm cosmic matrix: mark, you are a champ. thank u.
	6:57pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: Mkay
	🤖 6:57pm Noir Lover: Antitrust is sort of bipartisan as well.
	6:57pm Marie in Chicago: john kerry and hillary clinton are actuqlly robots
	6:58pm Sam: ↳ Marie in Chicago @6:57 Is Monica L a robot too?
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
	6:59pm Jeff Moore: I looked for Big Brother Watch on my favorite non-Billionaire-mediated social media agglomeration, Mastodon... ...and all I could find was a reflector bot mirroring BBW's posts from Xitter. It'd be nice if they had a Mastodon presence.
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm chris in the redwoods: could easily be my puppers in that cloud. look at that cutie.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 7, 2024

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October 7, 2024: Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch

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Today: Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch

Big Brother Watch, based in London, is working to “roll back the surveillance state.” The group’s director, Silkie Carlo, explains why privacy matters, and why technologies like facial recognition and digital currency are so dangerous to democracy.

• Big Brother Watch

• BBW’s 2022 report The Streets Are Watching: How Billboards Are Spying on You (or see the PDF):

Many digital billboards are now equipped with high definition cameras that can monitor the public space in front of them. Some of these cameras go beyond simple video recording and contain technology that can detect and analyse somebody’s face, their characteristics or what they are wearing so adverts can be tailored to specific kinds of people.

. . . In since-removed promotional material, ALFI claimed that taxi drivers could make £250 ($350) a month by installing the face-scanning tablets in the back of their vehicles, which is a significant amount of money compared to average driver incomes. Uber drivers in London make an average of £25,000 a year according to the employment transparency website Glassdoor. Additional payments that could add 10 per cent to an average driver’s salary would be an attractive offer for anybody.

• License Plate Readers Are Creating a US-Wide Database of Political Lawn Signs and Bumper Stickers (Wired, Oct 3, 2024):

A search result for the license plates from Delaware vehicles with the text “Trump” returned more than 150 images showing people’s homes and bumper stickers. Each search result includes the date, time, and exact location of where a photograph was taken.

. . . Increasingly, CCTV cameras are being equipped with AI to monitor people’s movements and even detect their emotions. The systems have the potential to alert officials, who may not be able to constantly monitor CCTV footage, to real-world events. However, whether license plate recognition can reduce crime has been questioned.

• A Russian Smartwatch-Enabled Assassination & US Army Apple Watch Warning (Watches of Espionage, Sep 17, 2024):

Ukrainian Intelligence Services used smartwatch data to assassinate a Russian naval commander during his morning jog. The US Army released a Counterintelligence warning to the US Military.

. . . according to an Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) bulletin from June 2023, service members across the military received unsolicited smartwatches in the mail, devices that auto-connected to wifi and other nearby devices. According to the report, the devices included malware that “accesses both voice and cameras, enabling actors to access conversations and accounts tied to smartwatches.” A report from Kaspersky, a cybersecurity company, suggests that the accelerometer data that tracks the movement of your wrist can be analyzed to determine passwords and credit card numbers.

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Artist	Track	Approx. start time
Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Silkie Carlo "Interview with Silkie Carlo"	0:03:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"	0:43:14 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Highly Effective People	Under Surveillance	0:54:33 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	5:55pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtoceanians!
	6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:03pm cosmic matrix: hello all
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Mark, all.
	🤖 6:05pm DjLorraine: Im teched in, Hi Mark and all
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: AI artwork? NFTs? Why not both, in postage stamp form. pivot-to-ai.com...
	6:07pm Glistener MW: “let’s call her listener Lisa S… hmm, no no, that’s much too obvious. Let’s call her listener L Simpson.”
	6:07pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and techies.
	🤖 6:08pm Deano de los Muertos: Hi Mark and folx
	6:09pm traven: Recently John Kerry spoke out against free speech - as he described it as "misinformation".
	6:09pm joe_rosevear: Howdy, all!
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, DiL, chresti, cosmic, Handy, DjL, KfHP, MW, Peter, Deano, traven, and joe_r - welcome!
	🤖 6:10pm Webhamster Henry: Today's topic is : Yipe!
	6:14pm spodiodi: greetings, Mark and all
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi spodiodi!
	6:22pm Sam: Good evening. I’m convinced this is the real reason they legalized pot, since that’s one of the laws that millions of ordinary people routinely broke. Pot users would have been up in arms over surveillance, but now you don’t really have to worry about it so they can go back to the comfortable “I’ve got nothing to hide” category.
	6:24pm Billybob: ↳ traven @6:09 Just the other day, Hillary called for increased limits on free speech, otherwise "we lose total control".
	🤖 6:27pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Sam @6:22 that does make a lot of sense. plus the workload of policing of all that weed action
	6:27pm Sam: People say “We’re democracies so we can have the infrastructure of dictatorships and be fine.” That was such an excellent point!
	6:29pm Billybob: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:05 I kinda like some of the AI artwork I've neen seeing on the 'net. On Youtube yesterday, I saw an ad featuring an illustration of a '50s era housewife wearing a dress, preparing food in the kitchen. Everything looked really good, except for her legs which were backwards.
	🤖 6:33pm PaulRobeson1924: Privacy ain’t what it used to be… what’s goin’ on
	🤖 6:34pm PaulRobeson1924: lawenforcementactionpartnership.org...
	6:34pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:24 I would be inclined to say that the Constitution of the United States makes it perfectly clear that there are no infringements on the 1st amendment.
	6:39pm Billybob: ↳ traven @6:34 Some people would like there to be.
	🤖 6:41pm PaulRobeson1924: Drugs are the largest commodity in the world. Where is all that $ going… in the United States we have the right to determine our own behavior with the corresponding obligation to take responsibility for our actions… the law has the ability to make a crime out of things that are not crimes- that is the issue. “The juridical discourse brings to life that which it pronounces”
	6:41pm Sam: Time to go back to cash under the mattress just like during the Depression.
	6:41pm spodiodi: arb's last The Arbitrarium playlist had a sweet picture on it (relative to this show): wfmu.org... love it. love that somebody put that there
	🤖 6:44pm Deano de los Muertos: ↳ spodiodi @6:41 ✝️🔊
	6:44pm Sam: And Elon’s buddy will surely never use any of this cornucopia of information inappropriately against anyone if he wins, given his deep respect for democracy.
	🤖 6:45pm PaulRobeson1924: Time is value neutral…
	6:46pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:39 If people like John Kerry or Hillary Clinton (barf) ever get in the driver's seat, the American people are in very deep do- do.
	🤖 6:46pm cosmic matrix: this was a great interview. hooray for silkie and her organization!
	6:46pm ultradamno: I believe, in one event, Musk set back the cause of bringing back the pogo dance fifty years.
	6:47pm Sam: Fantastic interview Mark, thanks!
	6:48pm Sam: Watch out Big Brother, Big Brother Watch is Watching You!
	6:49pm Henry Hudson's Distant Relative: Everything tracked for me until Silkie Carlo promoted Elon Musk's social media platform. That's becoming a deal-breaker for me.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Mark, you can just call it the Corptocracy.
	6:50pm Marie in Chicago: Hey Mark, thanks. APU, great topic. I never knew that that happened to the truckers. That's awful. I'll be signing up for the Big Brow Watch email
	6:50pm Billybob: I wonder what the thinking is of protests designed to prevent others from speaking. My politics began to shift in the 90s when I observed a flyer on a telephone pole in San Francisco, calling for people to come to Berkeley to protest a neo-Nazi from speaking. Now I hate the whole Nazi thing as much as the next guy, but still I thought "this is the home of the free speech movement?".
	6:51pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: ACLU thinking, Billybob, has worked so well thus far !
	🤖 6:51pm PaulRobeson1924: Baby? I am America
	6:52pm Billybob: Oh, the protest in my previous comment was designed to prevent the neo Nazi from speaking.
	6:53pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Billybob @6:52 yep, i remember that and had the same thoughts, it seems.
	6:53pm chris in the redwoods: great interview, Mark. thank you!
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark.
	6:55pm traven: ↳ Billybob @6:50 I agree with you 100%.
	🤖 6:55pm Deano de los Muertos: Thank you Mark
	6:55pm spodiodi: thank, Mark! keep doing good work
	6:55pm spodiodi: s*
	🤖 6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Well said, Mark
	6:57pm secret commenter: A lot of countries try to reasonably mitigate misinformation about matters of public health
	6:57pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: Wait, I like healthy fish too.
	🤖 6:57pm cosmic matrix: mark, you are a champ. thank u.
	6:57pm Yooper_Listener_1970N: Mkay
	🤖 6:57pm Noir Lover: Antitrust is sort of bipartisan as well.
	6:57pm Marie in Chicago: john kerry and hillary clinton are actuqlly robots
	6:58pm Sam: ↳ Marie in Chicago @6:57 Is Monica L a robot too?
	🤖 6:58pm Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
	6:59pm Jeff Moore: I looked for Big Brother Watch on my favorite non-Billionaire-mediated social media agglomeration, Mastodon... ...and all I could find was a reflector bot mirroring BBW's posts from Xitter. It'd be nice if they had a Mastodon presence.
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm chris in the redwoods: could easily be my puppers in that cloud. look at that cutie.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 7, 2024

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