WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from October 10, 2024

Listener comments!
	10:13am Michael C St Lou: and others/same corps profit from the incarceration
	10:13am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): let the power fall am i right
	10:14am Mxter Baba: Those of us who choose to tune into Trouble welcome the Trouble we hear here. Freeform for the deform!
	10:14am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Prison might have once been about rehabilitation. Now it's only about punishment and cheap labor.
	10:15am Webhamster Henry: Our large prison population - many of whom have no vote - is why our country is so safe! (?) Oh look at the 13th amendment exception clause: www.history.com...
	10:20am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @10:14 Besides license plates, what do they make in prison?
	10:22am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	10:22am Jason from Houston: And dang that's a good Burchfield!!!
	10:23am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 All kinds of stuff! At Wallkill they made prescription lenses. And incarcerated workers get paid maybe twenty five cents an hour if they're lucky.
	10:23am Trouble: how prison labor contributes to the US economy www.npr.org...
	10:24am Trouble: more info on captive labor: www.aclu.org...
	10:25am βrian: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 In Wisconsin, they make toxic furniture from formaldehyde-laden fiber board crap.
	10:25am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:23 Is Wallkill connected to Walmart?
	10:28am Planet Ø Tyler: If we don't rehab people in prison, they more likely re-offend when released. Prison keeps their $ coming in, GOP still gets elected on fear.
	10:28am Franco Twinkie: ↳ βrian @10:25 Mmmm. In California they stopped using formaldehyde is plywood years ago.
	10:28am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:25 Wouldn't surprise me. Another important part of prison economics are the usurious prices inmates are charged at commissaries.
	10:30am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 All the people I knew who went to prison are dead now, so forget about asking them anything...
	10:31am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 a lot of things that are 'made in america'
	10:31am Alanthepainter: Good Morning Trouble et. al, Greetings from S. Philly!
	10:31am Franco Twinkie: I see.
	10:31am Micheal: ↳ Song: "conquest of the stars" by "space project" Envisioning Lindsay Wagner and Lee Majors taking down some hooligans to this beat.
	10:32am Toothgrinder Tom: Re Conquest of the Stars at times this sounds a bit like the Battlestar Galactica theme (which is great) with a disco beat added.
	10:32am D Rok: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @10:14 I think Prison has always about cheap (slave) labor... If I'm reading the 13th amendment correctly.
	10:32am Zip7: One of the best books I've read about the carceral mindset is "Violence" by James Gilligan. Highly recommended!
	10:32am StringOFperils: Prison inmate welfare concerns aren't cost effective; they'll negatively impact the bottom line for stock-holders. It's business, baby. Those convicts are disposable assets, and their replacements are farmed outside on the streets. www.investopedia.com...
	10:33am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 Are you still teaching a class in a prison?
	10:34am βrian: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:28 Modern living.
	10:34am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "conquest of the stars" by "space project" Going crazy trying to think of which DJ has used this as talkover music-- is this in Fabio's rotation?
	10:35am d-_-b __Listener Jonny in MA: ↳ Song: "party people (heaven)" by "J.R.C.G." Trippy!
	10:35am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:33 Starting again in Spring -- a course on freedom of expression at Taconic women's prison in Westchester. The irony of that topic in that context is not lost on me.
	10:37am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 Zip7, did you read Chain-Gang All-Stars?
	10:37am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "Space Talk" by "Asha Puthli" oh i luvvvvvv dis one
	10:37am Zip7: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:37 New to me
	10:39am Trouble: on that note @zip: the US govt put together art shows of ab-ex art for the foreign market to 'sell' democrary and freedom to the world. so weird.
	10:39am Zip7: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 Looks good -- thanks for the rec!
	10:39am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 Thought of you as I read it. Brutal book.
	10:43am D Rok: I love it when you go disco on us, Trouble!
	10:43am maurer: great set DJ Trouble! If you are not a myth, what is real?
	10:43am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Trouble @10:39 Correction. I still have one friend who was a federal prisoner. But because he had a relatively short sentence (draft evader) He did a short sentence in a city jail, then was kicked out in the street. He told me he just played cards all day with the other inmates.
	10:46am Phillippe: Howdy
	10:47am Trouble: merci@maurer!
	10:49am βrian: ↳ Song: "look up ( long version)" by "patrice rushen" Who knew? Patrice's mom: www.cdcr.ca.gov...
	10:49am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): this chat is reminding me of noname's book club. here's some of the books chosen for this year: nonamebooks.com...
	10:51am Mxter Baba: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @10:49 wow, that looks outstanding! thanks!
	10:52am Mick: Good morning Trouble and Troubledours! Wonderful show, as usual. Life has been such that I haven't been able to join in the comment board reindeer games much lately. But "this is the modern world" is the one show (for me) where the comments are so good that I make sure to read them every week. So, thanks not just to DJ Trouble, but to all y'all
	10:53am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "chango (remix)" by "celia cruz" nice celia cruz... did not know she got this "rootsy"
	10:53am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Mxter Baba @10:51 yeah! looks like there's a lot of book clubs around too
	10:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers. Gotta make my list and make my pledge this week...
	10:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Song: "chango (remix)" by "celia cruz" Lovely track to help get me moving this AM...
	10:54am Trouble: thank you @bixa! wonderful list!
	10:55am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @10:49 Nice, thank you!
	10:55am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	10:56am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Right now, just waiting for the date that they have to turn the heat on in the building. Been extra hard getting out of bed since Fall really finally fell here...
	10:57am Vivian: Just coming in to say good morning and what a wonderful set this is. That's all!
	10:58am Trouble: thanks@ vivian!
	10:58am rx "t-rexy" scabin: ↳ D Rok @10:32 You are. And punishment.
	11:00am Alanthepainter: Good Morning Trouble et. al greetings from S. Philly, waking in a fine way!
	11:00am peter in SEA: Good morning, bonjour, bom dia Trouble and quinta feira people!
	11:01am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Trouble @10:54 yah!
	11:03am tom tom the pipers son: prison is very different in. socialist leaning scandinavian countries where the profit motive in dealing with crime and punishment is deftly side stepped
	11:05am tom tom the pipers son: Finland's prison system is known for its open prisons, low incarceration rate, and rehabilitation-focused approach: Open prisons Prisoners apply to be in open prisons, which don't have locks, gates, or uniforms. Prisoners can earn money, go into town, or study for a university degree.
	11:06am disco_nap_: ↳ Song: "private joy" by "prince" One of my favorite Prince songs as well, thanks for playing, Trouble!
	11:06am disco_nap_: Hello, Troublemakers! Hope you all are having a nice morning.
	11:07am Crownless Gander: Policing in the US has always been about keeping Black people in powerless positions of free or cheap labour, so the prison system has just evolved out of that.
	11:10am Steve Del Sol: Thats' me Baby! Now go play!!
	11:10am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:03 The guys I knew who went to prison were street criminals. They went back to stealing cars and smuggling drugs as soon as they got out. What ever rehabilitation they recieved on the inside was simply put aside so they could continue what got them tossed into the can in the first place.
	11:13am Miketp: Lovely nana.hello trouble & friends
	11:14am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:10 yes return customers to be wrung out for money in the syrtem.....people im sure are already aware of finnish prison, just thought i'd throw it in there as a side note
	11:16am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "honey dijon" by "hot mustard" I'm curious, are all their songs about mustard? Is that the mothersauce?
	11:17am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:14 I think I'm going to let this conversation go.
	11:17am jessica is cool: ↳ Song: "honey dijon" by "hot mustard" love
	11:17am StringOFperils: Adequately funding housing and education. Paying people fairly for their work. Taxing the populace in ways that don't kill people at the bottom while not really limiting 'growth' at the top. These would be where to begin managing a 'prison system' which. in itself, is obviously not too much about rehabilitation at all, something that prospective employers on the outside of the walls (uh, yeah, good luck with that mark of Cain on your forehead pal) know very well. But...all that would be some form of socialism that would have a levelling effect on society. Fairness. Smacks of Satanism to me. Surely the world would end.
	11:19am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:10 Many of the guys I worked with came from circumstances that would have shocked Dickens. Slinging rock or running guns was the only viable livelihood. Many were from the Bronx, and we read the chapter from "The Power Broker" about the Cross-Bronx Expressway. They were astonished: "So that's why it was so f*cked up!"
	11:21am Toothgrinder Tom: @unpopukarfred 11:16 ‘mothersauce connection/ gettin’ girls’ affection/ if you’re lookin’ for a role model/ don’t follow my direction!’ with apologies to the Beastie Boys.
	11:21am tom tom the pipers son: a bit of an obtuse comparison.... but have witnessed roadwork in holland being completed in a day, where in the united states takes months for similar work to be completed....mismanagement to create a mess to make money off of fixxing the problem.....point being the problem with prisons is endemic to the u.s.
	11:22am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @11:19 I didn't know these guy when they were incarcerated, I knew them on the street. I got along fine with all of them, but I also had to be really careful - they were dangerous!
	11:24am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:22 Yeah, you gotta have street smarts and be careful not to get played.
	11:24am tom tom the pipers son: endemic in the u.s.
	11:24am Picante Mint: ↳ Song: "light as a feather" by "azymuth" azymuth!
	11:26am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @11:24 The only thing I learned, was don't hang around with street criminals if you can help it. Like I said, they're all dead now.
	11:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "LFO ( Lupe finds Oliveros)" by "Helado Negro" groovy helado
	11:30am Ken From Hyde Park: New images from the wreck of Shackleton's ship Endurance. www.bbc.com...
	11:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:30 story of franklin expedition to find nw passage...new discovery of wreckage and bodies....evidence of cannibalism.... in ny times
	11:38am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:34 Oh, cool. Interesting!
	11:38am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Raga Thursday
	11:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:38 did you find article?
	11:39am Zip7: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:30 The Endurance story is just incredible. Thanks for the link!
	11:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:34 yes ken thx for those images....
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:38 Yes, is here: www.nytimes.com...
	11:41am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 👍🏻
	11:45am Mick: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 Both those articles are pretty amazing
	11:49am ?: ↳ Song: "for sale" by "beth gibbons" If ..stop...too far,,we?
	11:49am ironybread: "We'll all numb the pain we need to fulfill it" is an awfully good line
	11:50am tom tom the pipers son: thanks trouble....
	11:50am disco_nap_: Wait does Trouble not do the "It's Hard Out Here" segment any more? I enjoyed that
	11:51am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Song: "for sale" by "beth gibbons" ⭐️❤️🥰
	11:51am Trouble: saturday is world migratory bird day! migratorybirdday.org
	11:51am StringOFperils: Thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:52am ?: ↳ Trouble @11:51 Honkers, so thick they darkened the sky
	11:53am Handy Haversack: Chatnanigans! Thanks, Trouble. Lovely show!
	11:54am disco_nap_: Thank you, Trouble!! 💙💙💙
	11:54am βrian: David D is cueing up: wfmu.org...
	11:54am Zip7: Thanks, Trouble. Have a good week, Modernists!
	11:55am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Thank you, Trouble and Everyone.
	11:56am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week.
	11:56am Mick: Thanks Trouble!
	11:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Have a perfect 10/10 day!
	11:56am Handy Haversack: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:50 Oh, hey meant to tell you: I saw a car the other day with your chat handle as its personalized license plate!
	11:56am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Charles Burchfeld. There is a museum near me dedicated to him. In Buffalo acroos the street from a GREAT museum: THe Albright-Knox. Worth a visit.
	11:57am disco_nap_: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 :o!
	11:57am disco_nap_: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 Musta been a cooooooolll cat
	11:58am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): thanks trouble!
	11:58am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am HyperDose: Thanks for the tunage and acknowledging World Mental Health Day! 💜

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from October 10, 2024

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	New	Approx. start time
robert fripp	1989 "1989" by "robert fripp"	let the power fall			0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
June Tyson (feat. Sun Ra & His Arkestra)	walking on the moon	Saturnian Queen Of The Sun Ra Arkestra			0:12:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Yusef Lateef	symphonic blues suite first movement : Folia, second movement: minuet ( hybrid, atonal)	suite 16			0:22:48 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Yusef Lateef	destination paradise	Hush 'N' Thunder			0:26:47 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Barre Phillips	S.C.& W. "S.C.& W." by "Barre Phillips"	three day moon			0:36:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Albinos	bamboo night "bamboo night" by "Albinos"	bamboo night	WRWTFWW Records	*	0:44:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Dren McDonald	beachlight meditation vis	oceanic	appearing rcords	*	0:48:17 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
martin archer, jan todd	soleil levant	private view	discus music	*	0:53:06 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
ANOHNI and the Johnsons	Why Am I Alive Now?	my back was a bridge for you to cross			0:57:31 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

june tyson	if you are not a myth-strange worlds in my mind	Saturnian Queen Of The Sun Ra Arkestra			1:14:32 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Chbb	go go go! "go go go!" by "Chbb"	Chbb	soul sherriff	*	1:16:07 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
black uhuru	boof n' baff n' biff remixed	abductions and reconstructions			1:20:58 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
space project	conquest of the stars	Disco From Another Galaxy			1:27:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
J.R.C.G.	party people (heaven) "party people (heaven)" by "J.R.C.G."	Grim Iconic... (Sadistic Mantra)	Sub Pop	*	1:34:14 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Asha Puthli	Space Talk "Space Talk" by "Asha Puthli"	the devil is loose			1:36:27 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
patrice rushen	look up ( long version)	Remind Me (The Classic Elektra Recordings 1978-1984)			1:41:51 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
prince	private joy "private joy" by "prince"	controversy			1:47:01 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
celia cruz	chango (remix) "chango (remix)" by "celia cruz"	Hammock House: Africa Caribe	fania		1:50:54 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Nilo Espinosa y Orquesta	baby boogaloo	Gozalu! Bugalu Tropical			1:57:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

thievery corporation	saudade "saudade" by "thievery corporation"	saudade			2:10:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
nana caymi	codajas "codajas" by "nana caymi"	remascer			2:11:39 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
hot mustard	honey dijon "honey dijon" by "hot mustard"	mothersauce			2:14:19 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
azymuth	light as a feather "light as a feather" by "azymuth"	Light as a Feather			2:18:57 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Helado Negro	LFO ( Lupe finds Oliveros)	phasor			2:25:25 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
arushi jain	Richer Than Blood "Richer Than Blood" by "arushi jain"	under the lilac sky			2:28:26 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Dagar Brothers	raga malkauns ( sultal)	berlin 1964- the lost studio recording	black truffle records		2:35:09 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Byard Lancaster	last summer "last summer" by "Byard Lancaster"	it's not up to us			2:42:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
beth gibbons	for sale "for sale" by "beth gibbons"	lives outgrown	domino	*	2:45:19 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
William Parker, Cooper-Moore, Hamid Drake	processional	heart trio	Aum fidelity	*	2:49:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:13am Michael C St Lou: and others/same corps profit from the incarceration
	10:13am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): let the power fall am i right
	10:14am Mxter Baba: Those of us who choose to tune into Trouble welcome the Trouble we hear here. Freeform for the deform!
	10:14am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Prison might have once been about rehabilitation. Now it's only about punishment and cheap labor.
	10:15am Webhamster Henry: Our large prison population - many of whom have no vote - is why our country is so safe! (?) Oh look at the 13th amendment exception clause: www.history.com...
	10:20am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @10:14 Besides license plates, what do they make in prison?
	10:22am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	10:22am Jason from Houston: And dang that's a good Burchfield!!!
	10:23am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 All kinds of stuff! At Wallkill they made prescription lenses. And incarcerated workers get paid maybe twenty five cents an hour if they're lucky.
	10:23am Trouble: how prison labor contributes to the US economy www.npr.org...
	10:24am Trouble: more info on captive labor: www.aclu.org...
	10:25am βrian: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 In Wisconsin, they make toxic furniture from formaldehyde-laden fiber board crap.
	10:25am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:23 Is Wallkill connected to Walmart?
	10:28am Planet Ø Tyler: If we don't rehab people in prison, they more likely re-offend when released. Prison keeps their $ coming in, GOP still gets elected on fear.
	10:28am Franco Twinkie: ↳ βrian @10:25 Mmmm. In California they stopped using formaldehyde is plywood years ago.
	10:28am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:25 Wouldn't surprise me. Another important part of prison economics are the usurious prices inmates are charged at commissaries.
	10:30am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:28 All the people I knew who went to prison are dead now, so forget about asking them anything...
	10:31am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 a lot of things that are 'made in america'
	10:31am Alanthepainter: Good Morning Trouble et. al, Greetings from S. Philly!
	10:31am Franco Twinkie: I see.
	10:31am Micheal: ↳ Song: "conquest of the stars" by "space project" Envisioning Lindsay Wagner and Lee Majors taking down some hooligans to this beat.
	10:32am Toothgrinder Tom: Re Conquest of the Stars at times this sounds a bit like the Battlestar Galactica theme (which is great) with a disco beat added.
	10:32am D Rok: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @10:14 I think Prison has always about cheap (slave) labor... If I'm reading the 13th amendment correctly.
	10:32am Zip7: One of the best books I've read about the carceral mindset is "Violence" by James Gilligan. Highly recommended!
	10:32am StringOFperils: Prison inmate welfare concerns aren't cost effective; they'll negatively impact the bottom line for stock-holders. It's business, baby. Those convicts are disposable assets, and their replacements are farmed outside on the streets. www.investopedia.com...
	10:33am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 Are you still teaching a class in a prison?
	10:34am βrian: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:28 Modern living.
	10:34am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "conquest of the stars" by "space project" Going crazy trying to think of which DJ has used this as talkover music-- is this in Fabio's rotation?
	10:35am d-_-b __Listener Jonny in MA: ↳ Song: "party people (heaven)" by "J.R.C.G." Trippy!
	10:35am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:33 Starting again in Spring -- a course on freedom of expression at Taconic women's prison in Westchester. The irony of that topic in that context is not lost on me.
	10:37am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 Zip7, did you read Chain-Gang All-Stars?
	10:37am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "Space Talk" by "Asha Puthli" oh i luvvvvvv dis one
	10:37am Zip7: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:37 New to me
	10:39am Trouble: on that note @zip: the US govt put together art shows of ab-ex art for the foreign market to 'sell' democrary and freedom to the world. so weird.
	10:39am Zip7: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 Looks good -- thanks for the rec!
	10:39am Handy Haversack: ↳ Zip7 @10:37 Thought of you as I read it. Brutal book.
	10:43am D Rok: I love it when you go disco on us, Trouble!
	10:43am maurer: great set DJ Trouble! If you are not a myth, what is real?
	10:43am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Trouble @10:39 Correction. I still have one friend who was a federal prisoner. But because he had a relatively short sentence (draft evader) He did a short sentence in a city jail, then was kicked out in the street. He told me he just played cards all day with the other inmates.
	10:46am Phillippe: Howdy
	10:47am Trouble: merci@maurer!
	10:49am βrian: ↳ Song: "look up ( long version)" by "patrice rushen" Who knew? Patrice's mom: www.cdcr.ca.gov...
	10:49am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): this chat is reminding me of noname's book club. here's some of the books chosen for this year: nonamebooks.com...
	10:51am Mxter Baba: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @10:49 wow, that looks outstanding! thanks!
	10:52am Mick: Good morning Trouble and Troubledours! Wonderful show, as usual. Life has been such that I haven't been able to join in the comment board reindeer games much lately. But "this is the modern world" is the one show (for me) where the comments are so good that I make sure to read them every week. So, thanks not just to DJ Trouble, but to all y'all
	10:53am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "chango (remix)" by "celia cruz" nice celia cruz... did not know she got this "rootsy"
	10:53am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Mxter Baba @10:51 yeah! looks like there's a lot of book clubs around too
	10:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers. Gotta make my list and make my pledge this week...
	10:54am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ Song: "chango (remix)" by "celia cruz" Lovely track to help get me moving this AM...
	10:54am Trouble: thank you @bixa! wonderful list!
	10:55am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: ↳ bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢) @10:49 Nice, thank you!
	10:55am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Good morning, Trouble and Everyone.
	10:56am Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Right now, just waiting for the date that they have to turn the heat on in the building. Been extra hard getting out of bed since Fall really finally fell here...
	10:57am Vivian: Just coming in to say good morning and what a wonderful set this is. That's all!
	10:58am Trouble: thanks@ vivian!
	10:58am rx "t-rexy" scabin: ↳ D Rok @10:32 You are. And punishment.
	11:00am Alanthepainter: Good Morning Trouble et. al greetings from S. Philly, waking in a fine way!
	11:00am peter in SEA: Good morning, bonjour, bom dia Trouble and quinta feira people!
	11:01am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Trouble @10:54 yah!
	11:03am tom tom the pipers son: prison is very different in. socialist leaning scandinavian countries where the profit motive in dealing with crime and punishment is deftly side stepped
	11:05am tom tom the pipers son: Finland's prison system is known for its open prisons, low incarceration rate, and rehabilitation-focused approach: Open prisons Prisoners apply to be in open prisons, which don't have locks, gates, or uniforms. Prisoners can earn money, go into town, or study for a university degree.
	11:06am disco_nap_: ↳ Song: "private joy" by "prince" One of my favorite Prince songs as well, thanks for playing, Trouble!
	11:06am disco_nap_: Hello, Troublemakers! Hope you all are having a nice morning.
	11:07am Crownless Gander: Policing in the US has always been about keeping Black people in powerless positions of free or cheap labour, so the prison system has just evolved out of that.
	11:10am Steve Del Sol: Thats' me Baby! Now go play!!
	11:10am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:03 The guys I knew who went to prison were street criminals. They went back to stealing cars and smuggling drugs as soon as they got out. What ever rehabilitation they recieved on the inside was simply put aside so they could continue what got them tossed into the can in the first place.
	11:13am Miketp: Lovely nana.hello trouble & friends
	11:14am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:10 yes return customers to be wrung out for money in the syrtem.....people im sure are already aware of finnish prison, just thought i'd throw it in there as a side note
	11:16am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "honey dijon" by "hot mustard" I'm curious, are all their songs about mustard? Is that the mothersauce?
	11:17am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:14 I think I'm going to let this conversation go.
	11:17am jessica is cool: ↳ Song: "honey dijon" by "hot mustard" love
	11:17am StringOFperils: Adequately funding housing and education. Paying people fairly for their work. Taxing the populace in ways that don't kill people at the bottom while not really limiting 'growth' at the top. These would be where to begin managing a 'prison system' which. in itself, is obviously not too much about rehabilitation at all, something that prospective employers on the outside of the walls (uh, yeah, good luck with that mark of Cain on your forehead pal) know very well. But...all that would be some form of socialism that would have a levelling effect on society. Fairness. Smacks of Satanism to me. Surely the world would end.
	11:19am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:10 Many of the guys I worked with came from circumstances that would have shocked Dickens. Slinging rock or running guns was the only viable livelihood. Many were from the Bronx, and we read the chapter from "The Power Broker" about the Cross-Bronx Expressway. They were astonished: "So that's why it was so f*cked up!"
	11:21am Toothgrinder Tom: @unpopukarfred 11:16 ‘mothersauce connection/ gettin’ girls’ affection/ if you’re lookin’ for a role model/ don’t follow my direction!’ with apologies to the Beastie Boys.
	11:21am tom tom the pipers son: a bit of an obtuse comparison.... but have witnessed roadwork in holland being completed in a day, where in the united states takes months for similar work to be completed....mismanagement to create a mess to make money off of fixxing the problem.....point being the problem with prisons is endemic to the u.s.
	11:22am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @11:19 I didn't know these guy when they were incarcerated, I knew them on the street. I got along fine with all of them, but I also had to be really careful - they were dangerous!
	11:24am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:22 Yeah, you gotta have street smarts and be careful not to get played.
	11:24am tom tom the pipers son: endemic in the u.s.
	11:24am Picante Mint: ↳ Song: "light as a feather" by "azymuth" azymuth!
	11:26am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @11:24 The only thing I learned, was don't hang around with street criminals if you can help it. Like I said, they're all dead now.
	11:26am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "LFO ( Lupe finds Oliveros)" by "Helado Negro" groovy helado
	11:30am Ken From Hyde Park: New images from the wreck of Shackleton's ship Endurance. www.bbc.com...
	11:34am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:30 story of franklin expedition to find nw passage...new discovery of wreckage and bodies....evidence of cannibalism.... in ny times
	11:38am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:34 Oh, cool. Interesting!
	11:38am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Raga Thursday
	11:38am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:38 did you find article?
	11:39am Zip7: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:30 The Endurance story is just incredible. Thanks for the link!
	11:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:34 yes ken thx for those images....
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:38 Yes, is here: www.nytimes.com...
	11:41am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 👍🏻
	11:45am Mick: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 Both those articles are pretty amazing
	11:49am ?: ↳ Song: "for sale" by "beth gibbons" If ..stop...too far,,we?
	11:49am ironybread: "We'll all numb the pain we need to fulfill it" is an awfully good line
	11:50am tom tom the pipers son: thanks trouble....
	11:50am disco_nap_: Wait does Trouble not do the "It's Hard Out Here" segment any more? I enjoyed that
	11:51am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Song: "for sale" by "beth gibbons" ⭐️❤️🥰
	11:51am Trouble: saturday is world migratory bird day! migratorybirdday.org
	11:51am StringOFperils: Thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:52am ?: ↳ Trouble @11:51 Honkers, so thick they darkened the sky
	11:53am Handy Haversack: Chatnanigans! Thanks, Trouble. Lovely show!
	11:54am disco_nap_: Thank you, Trouble!! 💙💙💙
	11:54am βrian: David D is cueing up: wfmu.org...
	11:54am Zip7: Thanks, Trouble. Have a good week, Modernists!
	11:55am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Thank you, Trouble and Everyone.
	11:56am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week.
	11:56am Mick: Thanks Trouble!
	11:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Have a perfect 10/10 day!
	11:56am Handy Haversack: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:50 Oh, hey meant to tell you: I saw a car the other day with your chat handle as its personalized license plate!
	11:56am rx "t-rexy" scabin: Charles Burchfeld. There is a museum near me dedicated to him. In Buffalo acroos the street from a GREAT museum: THe Albright-Knox. Worth a visit.
	11:57am disco_nap_: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 :o!
	11:57am disco_nap_: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 Musta been a cooooooolll cat
	11:58am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): thanks trouble!
	11:58am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am HyperDose: Thanks for the tunage and acknowledging World Mental Health Day! 💜

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from October 10, 2024

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