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Favoriting February 17, 2025: Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World"

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Today: Nick Couldry, author, “The Space of the World”

Our social interactions, and our politics, are now moderated and manipulated by extractive Big Tech companies. Nick Couldry returns to Techtonic to discuss his new book, “The Space of the World: Can Human Solidarity Survive Social Media and What If It Can’t?”

• The Space of the World: Can Human Solidarity Survive Social Media and What If It Can’t?, by Nick Couldry

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• Professor Nick Couldry at the London School of Economics

• May 6, 2024 Techtonic with Nick Couldry and Ulises Mejias discussing “Data Grab: The New Colonialism of Big Tech and How to Fight Back”

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  Nick Couldry, author of “The Space of the World,” on how social media is driving us crazy
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonturnians!
  6:01pm
David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids assembled.
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ultradamno:

Hey, in italics! I feel urgent!
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hectic:

hey there mark and techies! this is techtic signing on!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi all!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyons!
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tim:

Hi Mark! Hi everyone!
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Will thee SG OCNY:

Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
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Deano de los Muertos:

Hi Mark!
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Deano de los Muertos:

peeps
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark & Techtrobes!
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ultradamno:

I've been listening to the Chopping Mall soundtrack a lot this week. I suggest some of it for this show, being THE killbot music.
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tak:

POWER.
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Ciggy:

re: Social Media - I'm not connecting with anyone or anything lately
  6:05pm
Listener Robert:

In the context of this show? Social media is this comment pane.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:04
waxworkrecords.com...
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David Shortell:

↳ ultradamno @6:05
I never heard of that flick until I saw it on the MOVIES! network a half hour ago.
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ultradamno:

Like having a president who is addicted to it?
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Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ ultradamno @6:04
#Bigly
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:07pm
ultradamno:

It's a fun movie!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:08pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Nick's previous show — www.wfmu.org...
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herb.nyc:

Oh boy. We’re gonna learn social media is even worse?

Someone fb’d this, but I didn’t click. Fyi:

The Guardian is done. They signed a deal with OpenAl and are letting hundreds of journalists go. The Broligarchy is here. Read Carole Cadwalladr

US COUP GAINS SPEED
BROLIGARCHY.SUBSTACK.COM
US Coup Gains Speed
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DjLorraine:

Evening y'all
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ultradamno:

Last night Steve Martin remarked he had been relaxing on his yacht in the Gulf of Steve Martin
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ultradamno:

↳ herb.nyc @6:09
Well, they might make good on their promise to never bend to Trump...if the bots are programmed that way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:12pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi ultra, DiL, hectic, Bas, Handy, Tim, wtsg, Deano, ciggy, Robert, tak, DjL, David, Ken, and Herb!
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ultradamno:

I like that the robot emoji alone is in italics
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Friends!
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Webhamster Henry:

WFMU social space is still safe!
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MarciB:

Looking forward to getting this book now - just from the intro !
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Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:12
We still get the occasional trolls 🧌🧌🧌 but overall it's 99.9% safe
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ultradamno:

Go cybertruck, go broke www.msn.com...
  6:20pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

loving this conversation ᕦ⁠(⁠ò⁠_⁠ó⁠ˇ⁠)⁠ᕤ
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:21pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, red_door - and hi, Marci!
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:14
We don't have ads, surveys, and cookie permissions pop-ups smacking you in the face either. Marathon's coming up, folks, that's what makes it possible!
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MarciB:

Why can't all this power and money be used for good - or to at least not make things worse?
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MarciB:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:23
Looking forward to all the marathon fun - and happy to donate again!
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Bas NL:

I think the internet reveals how people are in general when in a hurry. Nothing strange or unregulated about it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:28pm
PaulRobeson1925:

The internet is a larger flop than the moving image
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TheDerek:

↳ MarciB @6:23
No profit in that arena. Tesla has become the gold standard of american innovation. Ewok Musk wants to make beat the record of 12 parsecs on the Kessler run. Instead of throwing money into Space, why not develop technology for Cancer research? Always my question
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tak:

"the internet made us stupid"
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Will thee SG OCNY:

Thanks for nothing Broligarchs
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Webhamster Henry:

Yeah, social media is an accelerant.
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hectic:

↳ tak @6:29
yeah...
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Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:23
💯, I love this place... Donate, and donate often
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TheDerek:

↳ tak @6:29
Quoting or making a statement?
  6:34pm
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↳ TheDerek @6:28
controlling the population from space has more profit. curing cancer is not a priority because people are a resource that is just an inventory that is always turning over. Its welfare is irrelevant as it will renew itself.
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NotARealDoctor:

↳ TheDerek @6:28
There's actually a lot of really important reasons for space research, including research about cancer done in space! But that's why it's important to keep that research publicly funded instead of turning it into the for profit ventures that Elon Musk and others are trying to use it for.
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egould:

↳ tak @6:29
"We were always stupid. The internet made us stupid and mean."
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Webhamster Henry:

Sludge Content AND AI slop!
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tim:

Shouldn't what's his name rename the country and North America because they're named after a foreigner?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:38pm
ultradamno:

...or deport his wife?
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MarciB:

↳ TheDerek @6:28
I know, no money in positive engagement - rage and hate sell. It's so damn depressing. Toxic masculinity run amok (though plenty of women buy into this too).
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:38
...or his new best friend?
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Mark Hurst:

“Tools for Conviviality” by Ivan Illich
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:39
Rather than give him IRS taxpayer data abcnews.go.com...
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TheDerek:

↳ NotARealDoctor @6:34
Not knocking Space Research, I'm an organic astronomer(amateur at best) & find great value in Space research. My point was more Rhetorical & disparaging Ewok Musk
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https://arl.human.cornell.edu/linked%20docs/Illich_Tools_for_Conviviality.pdf
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Webhamster Henry:

Nick is describing ECHO. echonyc.com
  6:46pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

leaving social media freed my mind and soul, but I've felt so out of the loop. finding wfmu has made me feel part of something beautiful and connected as I figure out how to navigate this weird tech bro dystopia / society (?). this conversation feels like coming full circle to me.

I miss old style comment boards!!
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Mark Hurst:

Glad you’re with us, red_door
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common:

↳ red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti @6:46
i miss land lines and payphones
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TheDerek:

↳ MarciB @6:38
If I was in the position Ewok was in, I would be narcissistic in wanting to be THE GUY who developed technology aiding in reducing or flat out eradicating diseases
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MarciB:

I miss the 90s before smartphones and when social media was in its infancy and not destructive (yet)
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ultradamno:

external-content.duckduckgo.com...
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Webhamster Henry:

The trick is to build the new, safe, federated system (it needs groups, you developers...) and then use an AI bot to suck your social network into it from wherever it is now.
  6:49pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

coincidence, Ive got a twin peaks ambience video going in the background with hot coffee, and making myself a cup too. cheers!

I pine for the coffee shop social vibe. meet me at the coffee shop. ☕☕
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tak:

↳ TheDerek @6:48
billy gates already played that one
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tak:

very good, thanks Nick
  6:50pm
wimpy:

Old school forums still exist but they’re typically much slower than somebody who’s used to twitter and stuff would be ok with
  6:50pm
Subpope:

Great interview. We are cooked.
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Art:

Maybe mentioned earlier, but Diaspora and Friendica are free open source, non-commodified social media platforms available now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:51pm
ultradamno:

bsky.app...
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:48
Me too. I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I've never been a nostalgic person so it's been weird for me to long for the 90s. I know I am for the reasons you just mentioned plus it was the last time I remember not having a constant feeling of dread.
  6:51pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

wfmu feels like my geocities. I kinda missed the geocities boat but I pine for it !! 🌲
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Deano de los Muertos:

Thanks Mark and Nick…another fine interview
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leshwatt:

Social vs anti-social media

We are far from innocent now unfortunately.
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ wimpy @6:50
The slowness is not a bad thing. Also, more doom-scrolly front-ends can be written for these systems for those who are not from the command line BBS era of social networking.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:53pm
TheDerek:

I grew up ignorant on computers. Antique restoration does not need lithium
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joe mulligan:

I struggle real hard trying to delete FB/IG. i have so many connections there. but I do use both of them less. the social media I love the most is my bike club slack group and the wfmu comments board, becasue they're closed private groups
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hectic:

thank you mark, i love your show! this is techtic signing off
  6:54pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

↳ wimpy @6:50
I'm tryna get in the loop ! I have a few I visit for specific things but idk anyone who would put me onto forums anymore. I also see ppl digging bluesky
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egould:

WFMU accu playlist and comments is the only online interaction I have. Get off social media.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:55pm
TheDerek:

↳ joe mulligan @6:54
I did it & I'm doing fine.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:56pm
tim:

Thanks for the much needed humor, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry:

If you want a really lousy experience, turn on the voice assistant and go to a site that has lots of comments.
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tak:

eyes rolled back so hard i can see the creases in my brain
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ultradamno:

But....the gummy ads!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ ultradamno @6:18
<Nelson Muntz> Ha ha!
Thanks, Mark!
  6:57pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

it sounds like a joke but i know way too many people who talk like they're tweeting💀people have forgotten how to speak earnestly
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joe mulligan:

↳ TheDerek @6:55
everyone has different social maps and methods of communicating. I should say I only use FB messenger but IG is hard to shake
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tak:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:56
did you know youtube is forcing AI dubs on different dialects in some countries? it also ruins the sound of the video. Lousy lousy
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:57pm
DaveMiß:

Nice work mark
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Will thee SG OCNY:

Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
bleubombersune:

Mark Thanks
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PaulRobeson1925:

Ho Ho Ho
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ tak @6:57
that and the automated transcriptions...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
tim:

Thanks Mark ! Thanks everyone for keeping the chats enjoyable!
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egould:

Thanks Mark.
  6:59pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

great show!! will be revisiting and sharing
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:59pm
TheDerek:

Are knuckledraggers (me) allowed on here?
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tim:

↳ TheDerek @6:59
I'm allowed here if that helps - hahaha!
  7:00pm
red_door_whar_for in ypsilanti:

I remember when scrolling icanhascheezburger was the pinnacle of the Internet 💀👴
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 7:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Fun as always!
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