WFMU: Optical Sound with Mike Sin: Playlist from December 27, 2010

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Love	Love Is More Than Words Or Better Late Than Never	Out Here	MCA	1990	CD	from 1969.		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Curtis Mayfield	We Got To Have Peace	Roots	Rhino	1999	CD	from 1971. Check out an awesome live version from the BBC's "Old Grey Whistle Test" television show right HERE!		0:09:51 (Pop-up)
Marvin Gaye	Purple Snowflakes "Purple Snowflakes" by "Marvin Gaye"	VA: A Christmas Present From Motown, Volume 1	Motown	2001	CD	From 1964		0:14:27 (Pop-up)
Staple Singers	Who Took The Merry Out Of Christmas	Ultimate Staple Singers: A Family Affair 1955-1984	Ace	2004	CD box set	from 1970		0:18:24 (Pop-up)
Steve Miller Band	Seasons "Seasons" by "Steve Miller Band"	The Best of 1968-1973	Capitol	1990	CD	from 1969.		0:19:43 (Pop-up)
Consortium	Copper Coloured Years "Copper Coloured Years" by "Consortium"	VA: Tea & Symphony - The English Baroque Sound 1967-1974	Castle	2007	CD	from 1970.		0:23:25 (Pop-up)
Everly Brothers	Hard Hard Year "Hard Hard Year" by "Everly Brothers"	Two Yanks In England	Collector's Choice	2005	CD	from 1966. The Everly Bro-Fo's go to England and cut an album backed by the Hollies.		0:26:30 (Pop-up)
Sight & Sound	Little Jackie Monday	VA: Let's Ride - Fairytales Can Come Come True, Volume 3	Psychic Circle	2008	CD	from 1968. featuring Rick Price (later of the Move) and Mike Sheridan.		0:28:53 (Pop-up)
Rolling Stones	Salt Of The Earth "Salt Of The Earth" by "Rolling Stones"	Beggar's Banquet	ABKCO	2002	CD	from 1968		0:31:11 (Pop-up)

Real Kids	Better Be Good "Better Be Good" by "Real Kids"	The Real Kids	Norton	1991	CD	from 1978.		0:45:40 (Pop-up)
Greenhornes	Need Your Love "Need Your Love" by "Greenhornes"	****	Thirdman	2010	CD		*	0:48:51 (Pop-up)
Los Brincos	Nadie Te Quiere Ya "Nadie Te Quiere Ya" by "Los Brincos"	Contrabando	BMG	2001	CD	from 1968. Spain!		0:51:18 (Pop-up)
Jinx	I Can't Go On Loving You "I Can't Go On Loving You" by "Jinx"	VA: Fort Worth Teen Scene, Volume Two	Norton	2004	CD	from 1967, but unreleased at that time.		0:53:45 (Pop-up)
Rob Hoeke Rhythm & Blues Group	Rain Snow Misery	VA: The V-Lips Greatest Hits	Frizzbee	1985	LP	from 1966.		0:55:51 (Pop-up)
Zephyrs	She's Lost You "She's Lost You" by "Zephyrs"	VA: That Driving Beat, Volume 2	Past & Present	2001	CD	from 1965.		0:58:31 (Pop-up)

Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band	Plastic Factory	Safe As Milk	Buddha	1999	CD	from 1967. RIP Don Van Vliet. Check out this clip of Don interviewed by David Letterman right HERE!		1:08:29 (Pop-up)
Fut	Have You Heard the Word "Have You Heard the Word" by "Fut"	In the Lap of the Gods and in the Hands of the Beatles	Wizardo	1975?	LP	from 1969 featuring Maurice Gibb of the Bee Gees and the members of Tin Tin. This track ended up on numerous Beatles' bootlegs such as this one described as an unreleased Beatles' track.		1:11:28 (Pop-up)
Drag Set	Day and Night "Day and Night" by "Drag Set"	VA: Rare 60's Beat Treasures, Vol. 4	Gone Beat	1999	CD	from 1966		1:16:04 (Pop-up)
Cilla Black	Step Inside Love "Step Inside Love" by "Cilla Black"	VA: The Songs Lennon and McCartney Gave Away	EMI	1979	LP	from 1968. Cilla does it live on her television show right over here! Yeah!		1:18:20 (Pop-up)
Brian Wilson Shock Treatment	The Moons of Jupiter	Druid Time Lords	Slutfish	2010	CD		*	1:20:43 (Pop-up)
Insomniacs	Get Better "Get Better" by "Insomniacs"	Just Enjoy It	Screaming Apple	2011	LP	to be released in January 2011.	*	1:22:57 (Pop-up)
Dentists	Strawberries Are Growing in My Garden (And It's Wintertime)	VA: Children of Nuggets - Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era 1976-1996	Rhino	2005	CD box set	from 1985. A clip of the reformed band performing this track in 2010 is right over here!		1:25:52 (Pop-up)
Bulldog Breed	When the Sun Stands Still	Made in England	Acme/Lion	2004	CD	from 1969		1:29:05 (Pop-up)
Zir	Man Kiam "Man Kiam" by "Zir"	VA: Raks! Raks! Raks! 17 Golden Garage Nuggets from the Iranian '60s Scene	Raks	2009	CD	This track is essentially "I'm A Believer" in Persian.		1:31:42 (Pop-up)

Who	Rael 1 & 2 "Rael 1 & 2" by "Who"	The Who Sell Out (deluxe edition)	MCA	2009	CD box set	from 1967. Original mono mix.		1:46:22 (Pop-up)
Twice As Much & Vashti	The Coldest Night of the Year	Sittin' On A Fence: The Immediate Anthology	Immediate	1999	CD	from 1968. Originally on the LP "That's All"		1:49:07 (Pop-up)
Steve & the Board	Margot "Margot" by "Steve & the Board"	... and the Giggle Eyed Goo	Acension	2000	CD	from 1966. Australia! Steve Kipner later formed Tin Tin		1:52:25 (Pop-up)
Sorrows	Gonna Find a Cave "Gonna Find a Cave" by "Sorrows"	The Sorrows	Sequel	1991	CD	from 1966, but unreleased at that time.		1:54:55 (Pop-up)
Poets	Wooden Spoon "Wooden Spoon" by "Poets"	Scotland's No. 1 Group	Dynovox	2000	CD	from 1967.		1:57:21 (Pop-up)

Jason Crest	King Of The Castle "King Of The Castle" by "Jason Crest"	Collected Works of Jason Crest	Wooden Hill	1998	CD	from 1968		2:06:53 (Pop-up)
Les Fleur De Lys	Tick Tock "Tick Tock" by "Les Fleur De Lys"	Reflections	Blueprint	1997	CD	from 1967		2:09:49 (Pop-up)
Common People	Those Who Love "Those Who Love" by "Common People"	Of the People/By The People/For the People from the Common People	Acid Symposium	2006	CD	from 1969.		2:12:28 (Pop-up)
Les Breastfeeders	Laisse Autant Le Vent Tout Emporter	Dejeuner Sur L'Herbe	Blow the Fuse	2004	CD			2:15:36 (Pop-up)
Iggy Pop & James Williamson	Kill City	Kill City	Alive Naturalsound	2010	CD	originally released in 1977	*	2:18:20 (Pop-up)
Diplomats of Solid Sound	I Can't Wait for Your Love (Pistol Allen)	What Goes Around Comes Around	Pravda	2010	CD		*	2:20:48 (Pop-up)
Dog Rose	Fame and Fortune "Fame and Fortune" by "Dog Rose"	VA: Mixed Up Minds Part 1 – Obscure Rock & Pop From The British Isles 1970 to 1973	Past & Present	2010	CD	from 1972	*	2:24:52 (Pop-up)
Michael Lynch	Come What May "Come What May" by "Michael Lynch"	Come What May	Nanker	2010	CD-R	six-song CD EP!	*	2:27:35 (Pop-up)

Village	Man in the Moon "Man in the Moon" by "Village"	VA: Electric Sugarcube Flashbacks - Rare British Brain Candies from the Psychedelic Sixties!!!	AIP	1993	CD	from 1969.		2:38:58 (Pop-up)
Paul Jones	Free Me "Free Me" by "Paul Jones"	Original Soundtrack: Privilege	Uni	1967	LP	Check out this awesome clip from the original movie right here!		2:43:08 (Pop-up)
Magicians	Ladyfingers "Ladyfingers" by "Magicians"	An Invitation to Cry: The Best of The Magicians	Sundazed	1999	CD	from 1967		2:46:39 (Pop-up)
'N Betweens	Girl, I Am Your Evil Witchman	VA: English Freakbeat, Volume 1	AIP	1992	CD	from 1966. This band later morphed into Slade.		2:49:14 (Pop-up)
Maceys Window	It's Getting Harder	VA: Le Beat Bespoke 4 - 20 Tailor Made Cuts	Circle	2010	CD	from 1971	*	2:51:30 (Pop-up)
Black Hollies	Gloomy Monday Morning		Safety Meeting	2009	7"	Here's a clip of these freaky Jersey City dudes kicking out a stomping, super groovy live version of this track at "TT The Bear" in Cambridge, MA on 11/27/09 right here! hear!		2:53:57 (Pop-up)

Listener comments!
	12:03am dan in Falls Church VA: love the Love, is that Arthur himself playing those crazy guitar leads?
	12:16am EV Snow Princess: I never heard this Marvin Gaye song- it's fab and so appropriate!
	12:34am coelacanth: hi. just in from the snow. this is perfect.
	12:43am Blooze: Hey Mike, I am with you on this snowy, blizzardy night!
	12:49am jackyk: oh yea
	12:49am jackyk: oh yea
	12:50am 10" Inches Of Wet Hard Snow: Your show is so good!
	12:50am Blooze: Greenhornes done gone freakbeat?
	12:53am coalhard: i'm hoping for a sonic youth song--but no matter --i'm tuned in!!!
	1:05am 10" Inches Of Wet Hard Snow: Thx 4 playing Rob Hoeke & Los Brincos! So goood! and Be safe tonite!
	1:22am EV Snow Princess: This show is so hot it's melting the snow
	1:23am dan in Falls Church VA: I really like this "Moons of Jupiter Track" but I'm afraid I find the band name disturbing, in poor taste, and hilarious.
	1:28am Blooze: Was just picking through my CD archives and located Dentists comp. They rule. Probably bought this 7" while shopping with you, too!
	1:31am dan in Falls Church VA: Bulldog Breed! Yeh! I love 'em.
	1:32am dan in Falls Church VA: Bulldog Breed! Yeh! I love 'em.
	1:37am Julia: Mike, thanks so much for this music. Really enjoying the show!
	1:37am dan in Falls Church VA: I should stop repeating myself. I should stop repeating myself.
	1:38am dan in Falls Church VA: I'm really enjoying the show too -- is there anyway I can get on an e-mail list so I can be apprised of your next sub slot, Mike Sin?
	2:12am Steve: Mike, my favorite fill-in, which leads to the question; have you or will you ever have a regular show?
	2:21am dan in Falls Church VA: That (Les Les Breastfeeders) was AWESOME!!!! Good question, Steve, is Mike paying attn to our praise & queries???
	2:24am Madi H: Hanging on to the radio like a life preserver this season. Thanks Mike, outstanding show.
	2:24am DJ Terre T: I love DOSS! Heya!
	2:30am DJ Terre T: My 2 fave Mikes: Sin & Lynch!
	2:33am Steve: Yeah pop!
	2:41am DJ Terre T: If u like LES BREASTFEEDERS check out their WFMU LIVE performance! http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/14237 (They played live on my show February 19, 2005!) And also Mike... Nice story (& song) somehow involving yr polar fleece PJs!
	2:48am DJ Terre T: I only the Patti Smith and Ricki Maiocchi version of this song SET ME FREE! Wow this is great! Now play Patti or Ricki's version! :)
	11:02am liz per: Fine show, Mike! The Everly Bros/Hollies song was a revelation; the DJ patter was most excellent! Wish I coulda been there proddin'...
	11:05am sue french: also liked the Cap. Beefheart and Zir; I fell asleep listening to the show, what a way to snuggle down!
	9:44am John W: This show is the Purple Snowflake of the airwaves!

Optical Sound with Mike Sin: Playlist from December 27, 2010

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Love	Love Is More Than Words Or Better Late Than Never	Out Here	MCA	1990	CD	from 1969.		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Curtis Mayfield	We Got To Have Peace	Roots	Rhino	1999	CD	from 1971. Check out an awesome live version from the BBC's "Old Grey Whistle Test" television show right HERE!		0:09:51 (Pop-up)
Marvin Gaye	Purple Snowflakes "Purple Snowflakes" by "Marvin Gaye"	VA: A Christmas Present From Motown, Volume 1	Motown	2001	CD	From 1964		0:14:27 (Pop-up)
Staple Singers	Who Took The Merry Out Of Christmas	Ultimate Staple Singers: A Family Affair 1955-1984	Ace	2004	CD box set	from 1970		0:18:24 (Pop-up)
Steve Miller Band	Seasons "Seasons" by "Steve Miller Band"	The Best of 1968-1973	Capitol	1990	CD	from 1969.		0:19:43 (Pop-up)
Consortium	Copper Coloured Years "Copper Coloured Years" by "Consortium"	VA: Tea & Symphony - The English Baroque Sound 1967-1974	Castle	2007	CD	from 1970.		0:23:25 (Pop-up)
Everly Brothers	Hard Hard Year "Hard Hard Year" by "Everly Brothers"	Two Yanks In England	Collector's Choice	2005	CD	from 1966. The Everly Bro-Fo's go to England and cut an album backed by the Hollies.		0:26:30 (Pop-up)
Sight & Sound	Little Jackie Monday	VA: Let's Ride - Fairytales Can Come Come True, Volume 3	Psychic Circle	2008	CD	from 1968. featuring Rick Price (later of the Move) and Mike Sheridan.		0:28:53 (Pop-up)
Rolling Stones	Salt Of The Earth "Salt Of The Earth" by "Rolling Stones"	Beggar's Banquet	ABKCO	2002	CD	from 1968		0:31:11 (Pop-up)

Real Kids	Better Be Good "Better Be Good" by "Real Kids"	The Real Kids	Norton	1991	CD	from 1978.		0:45:40 (Pop-up)
Greenhornes	Need Your Love "Need Your Love" by "Greenhornes"	****	Thirdman	2010	CD		*	0:48:51 (Pop-up)
Los Brincos	Nadie Te Quiere Ya "Nadie Te Quiere Ya" by "Los Brincos"	Contrabando	BMG	2001	CD	from 1968. Spain!		0:51:18 (Pop-up)
Jinx	I Can't Go On Loving You "I Can't Go On Loving You" by "Jinx"	VA: Fort Worth Teen Scene, Volume Two	Norton	2004	CD	from 1967, but unreleased at that time.		0:53:45 (Pop-up)
Rob Hoeke Rhythm & Blues Group	Rain Snow Misery	VA: The V-Lips Greatest Hits	Frizzbee	1985	LP	from 1966.		0:55:51 (Pop-up)
Zephyrs	She's Lost You "She's Lost You" by "Zephyrs"	VA: That Driving Beat, Volume 2	Past & Present	2001	CD	from 1965.		0:58:31 (Pop-up)

Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band	Plastic Factory	Safe As Milk	Buddha	1999	CD	from 1967. RIP Don Van Vliet. Check out this clip of Don interviewed by David Letterman right HERE!		1:08:29 (Pop-up)
Fut	Have You Heard the Word "Have You Heard the Word" by "Fut"	In the Lap of the Gods and in the Hands of the Beatles	Wizardo	1975?	LP	from 1969 featuring Maurice Gibb of the Bee Gees and the members of Tin Tin. This track ended up on numerous Beatles' bootlegs such as this one described as an unreleased Beatles' track.		1:11:28 (Pop-up)
Drag Set	Day and Night "Day and Night" by "Drag Set"	VA: Rare 60's Beat Treasures, Vol. 4	Gone Beat	1999	CD	from 1966		1:16:04 (Pop-up)
Cilla Black	Step Inside Love "Step Inside Love" by "Cilla Black"	VA: The Songs Lennon and McCartney Gave Away	EMI	1979	LP	from 1968. Cilla does it live on her television show right over here! Yeah!		1:18:20 (Pop-up)
Brian Wilson Shock Treatment	The Moons of Jupiter	Druid Time Lords	Slutfish	2010	CD		*	1:20:43 (Pop-up)
Insomniacs	Get Better "Get Better" by "Insomniacs"	Just Enjoy It	Screaming Apple	2011	LP	to be released in January 2011.	*	1:22:57 (Pop-up)
Dentists	Strawberries Are Growing in My Garden (And It's Wintertime)	VA: Children of Nuggets - Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era 1976-1996	Rhino	2005	CD box set	from 1985. A clip of the reformed band performing this track in 2010 is right over here!		1:25:52 (Pop-up)
Bulldog Breed	When the Sun Stands Still	Made in England	Acme/Lion	2004	CD	from 1969		1:29:05 (Pop-up)
Zir	Man Kiam "Man Kiam" by "Zir"	VA: Raks! Raks! Raks! 17 Golden Garage Nuggets from the Iranian '60s Scene	Raks	2009	CD	This track is essentially "I'm A Believer" in Persian.		1:31:42 (Pop-up)

Who	Rael 1 & 2 "Rael 1 & 2" by "Who"	The Who Sell Out (deluxe edition)	MCA	2009	CD box set	from 1967. Original mono mix.		1:46:22 (Pop-up)
Twice As Much & Vashti	The Coldest Night of the Year	Sittin' On A Fence: The Immediate Anthology	Immediate	1999	CD	from 1968. Originally on the LP "That's All"		1:49:07 (Pop-up)
Steve & the Board	Margot "Margot" by "Steve & the Board"	... and the Giggle Eyed Goo	Acension	2000	CD	from 1966. Australia! Steve Kipner later formed Tin Tin		1:52:25 (Pop-up)
Sorrows	Gonna Find a Cave "Gonna Find a Cave" by "Sorrows"	The Sorrows	Sequel	1991	CD	from 1966, but unreleased at that time.		1:54:55 (Pop-up)
Poets	Wooden Spoon "Wooden Spoon" by "Poets"	Scotland's No. 1 Group	Dynovox	2000	CD	from 1967.		1:57:21 (Pop-up)

Jason Crest	King Of The Castle "King Of The Castle" by "Jason Crest"	Collected Works of Jason Crest	Wooden Hill	1998	CD	from 1968		2:06:53 (Pop-up)
Les Fleur De Lys	Tick Tock "Tick Tock" by "Les Fleur De Lys"	Reflections	Blueprint	1997	CD	from 1967		2:09:49 (Pop-up)
Common People	Those Who Love "Those Who Love" by "Common People"	Of the People/By The People/For the People from the Common People	Acid Symposium	2006	CD	from 1969.		2:12:28 (Pop-up)
Les Breastfeeders	Laisse Autant Le Vent Tout Emporter	Dejeuner Sur L'Herbe	Blow the Fuse	2004	CD			2:15:36 (Pop-up)
Iggy Pop & James Williamson	Kill City	Kill City	Alive Naturalsound	2010	CD	originally released in 1977	*	2:18:20 (Pop-up)
Diplomats of Solid Sound	I Can't Wait for Your Love (Pistol Allen)	What Goes Around Comes Around	Pravda	2010	CD		*	2:20:48 (Pop-up)
Dog Rose	Fame and Fortune "Fame and Fortune" by "Dog Rose"	VA: Mixed Up Minds Part 1 – Obscure Rock & Pop From The British Isles 1970 to 1973	Past & Present	2010	CD	from 1972	*	2:24:52 (Pop-up)
Michael Lynch	Come What May "Come What May" by "Michael Lynch"	Come What May	Nanker	2010	CD-R	six-song CD EP!	*	2:27:35 (Pop-up)

Village	Man in the Moon "Man in the Moon" by "Village"	VA: Electric Sugarcube Flashbacks - Rare British Brain Candies from the Psychedelic Sixties!!!	AIP	1993	CD	from 1969.		2:38:58 (Pop-up)
Paul Jones	Free Me "Free Me" by "Paul Jones"	Original Soundtrack: Privilege	Uni	1967	LP	Check out this awesome clip from the original movie right here!		2:43:08 (Pop-up)
Magicians	Ladyfingers "Ladyfingers" by "Magicians"	An Invitation to Cry: The Best of The Magicians	Sundazed	1999	CD	from 1967		2:46:39 (Pop-up)
'N Betweens	Girl, I Am Your Evil Witchman	VA: English Freakbeat, Volume 1	AIP	1992	CD	from 1966. This band later morphed into Slade.		2:49:14 (Pop-up)
Maceys Window	It's Getting Harder	VA: Le Beat Bespoke 4 - 20 Tailor Made Cuts	Circle	2010	CD	from 1971	*	2:51:30 (Pop-up)
Black Hollies	Gloomy Monday Morning		Safety Meeting	2009	7"	Here's a clip of these freaky Jersey City dudes kicking out a stomping, super groovy live version of this track at "TT The Bear" in Cambridge, MA on 11/27/09 right here! hear!		2:53:57 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	12:03am dan in Falls Church VA: love the Love, is that Arthur himself playing those crazy guitar leads?
	12:16am EV Snow Princess: I never heard this Marvin Gaye song- it's fab and so appropriate!
	12:34am coelacanth: hi. just in from the snow. this is perfect.
	12:43am Blooze: Hey Mike, I am with you on this snowy, blizzardy night!
	12:49am jackyk: oh yea
	12:49am jackyk: oh yea
	12:50am 10" Inches Of Wet Hard Snow: Your show is so good!
	12:50am Blooze: Greenhornes done gone freakbeat?
	12:53am coalhard: i'm hoping for a sonic youth song--but no matter --i'm tuned in!!!
	1:05am 10" Inches Of Wet Hard Snow: Thx 4 playing Rob Hoeke & Los Brincos! So goood! and Be safe tonite!
	1:22am EV Snow Princess: This show is so hot it's melting the snow
	1:23am dan in Falls Church VA: I really like this "Moons of Jupiter Track" but I'm afraid I find the band name disturbing, in poor taste, and hilarious.
	1:28am Blooze: Was just picking through my CD archives and located Dentists comp. They rule. Probably bought this 7" while shopping with you, too!
	1:31am dan in Falls Church VA: Bulldog Breed! Yeh! I love 'em.
	1:32am dan in Falls Church VA: Bulldog Breed! Yeh! I love 'em.
	1:37am Julia: Mike, thanks so much for this music. Really enjoying the show!
	1:37am dan in Falls Church VA: I should stop repeating myself. I should stop repeating myself.
	1:38am dan in Falls Church VA: I'm really enjoying the show too -- is there anyway I can get on an e-mail list so I can be apprised of your next sub slot, Mike Sin?
	2:12am Steve: Mike, my favorite fill-in, which leads to the question; have you or will you ever have a regular show?
	2:21am dan in Falls Church VA: That (Les Les Breastfeeders) was AWESOME!!!! Good question, Steve, is Mike paying attn to our praise & queries???
	2:24am Madi H: Hanging on to the radio like a life preserver this season. Thanks Mike, outstanding show.
	2:24am DJ Terre T: I love DOSS! Heya!
	2:30am DJ Terre T: My 2 fave Mikes: Sin & Lynch!
	2:33am Steve: Yeah pop!
	2:41am DJ Terre T: If u like LES BREASTFEEDERS check out their WFMU LIVE performance! http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/14237 (They played live on my show February 19, 2005!) And also Mike... Nice story (& song) somehow involving yr polar fleece PJs!
	2:48am DJ Terre T: I only the Patti Smith and Ricki Maiocchi version of this song SET ME FREE! Wow this is great! Now play Patti or Ricki's version! :)
	11:02am liz per: Fine show, Mike! The Everly Bros/Hollies song was a revelation; the DJ patter was most excellent! Wish I coulda been there proddin'...
	11:05am sue french: also liked the Cap. Beefheart and Zir; I fell asleep listening to the show, what a way to snuggle down!
	9:44am John W: This show is the Purple Snowflake of the airwaves!

Optical Sound with Mike Sin: Playlist from December 27, 2010

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