WFMU: Talk's Cheap with Jason Sigal: Playlist from November 17, 2011

Listener comments!
	9:04am Good Morning Jason: Dead Corporate Eyes
	9:04am Cheri Pi: Ooo I love this style of horns & glockenspiels.very 80's/
	9:05am Cheri Pi: well-maybe there are no horns,,, did I imagine it?
	9:08am Dead Corporate Eyes: the brain is a tricky thing, as are the ears. Has anyone hit any animals while driving?
	9:10am Cheri Pi: Not that I know of, but my mom hit a black bear on the highway last year.
	9:12am Dead Corporate Eyes: a bear--wow, coming out slugging. I thought we'd start with squirrells and skunks, but a bear!
	9:14am Jason: good morning!
	9:15am Cheri Pi: She had just crossed the Macinac bridge going south at night, not much traffic luckily going about 80. Totalled the passenger door and the bear ran into the woods. She was able to make it back to Cincy just fine.
	9:16am Jason: have never hit an animal while driving knock on wood
	9:16am dc pat: the bear lives in Cincy?
	9:16am r i s k y: Go jay!!!
	9:19am AbeSomething: Just tuning in, maybe I missed something at the start of this song but - what makes this version of "Little Johnny Jewel" a rarity? Sounds like the album version...
	9:21am glenn: what album version? it was released as a 2 sided single on ork records.
	9:23am Dead Corporate Eyes: my brain always says "Girls on Film" when I hear that guitar lick, though.
	9:23am Marmalade Kitty: Great opening set Jason!!
	9:24am Jason: Little Johnny Jewel is a bonus track on Marquee Moon reissue
	9:24am AbeSomething: @Glenn Until this moment I always thought the track was on Marquee Moon. I see now that it was on the CD release as an extra.
	9:25am Cheri Pi: No this was a UP bear in Michigan. We go up there a lot and now always cross our fingers when we're on that stretch of highway.
	9:25am BSI: @DCE: Regarding the roadkill question: My wife took out my brand new earth-killing SUV for the first time (2000) and promptly nailed a gorgeous bright red cardinal. The thing exploded like a tiny supernova. The vents were open. I'll say no more.
	9:27am BSI: postscript: after moving back to dc, promptly sold it. Felt like driving a huge buffalo on the beltway. Thing was ideal for southern AZ but not so good for city driving. Now proudly car-free for several years...
	9:29am dc pat: congrats BSI. I don't know why people even thinking of having those things in the city. Big moby dicks trying to fit into tiny parking spots...
	9:29am dc pat: I love Abner Jay. he did his own thing..
	9:30am Dead Corporate Eyes: @ BSI--that cardinal was kind of a canary in a coal mine.
	9:31am Dead Corporate Eyes: I've been driving 25 + years and have been lucky enough to never have smushed nothing. I see so many dead animals along the road, I just kind of wonder who is the jerk who hits them all?
	9:33am pgw in mntclr: don't stop Sharrockin'
	9:34am glenn: in the springtime here, i can easily see 100 dead raccoons on the road in a 20 mile stretch.
	9:34am Jason: hey everybody been following the Stop Online Piracy Act? It's dangerous and very real -- check out the links at the top of the page and we'll chat about it at 10:30 with media piracy expert Joe Karaganis
	9:34am Cheri Pi: I love this album! And Monkey Pockie Boo
	9:34am BSI: ...grew up in DC, and seeing the gridlock (and the long lines during the '70s gas crisis), never wanted to drive. Didn't even learn until age 31.... Though i will say, taking the xterra up those goat-path mountain roads between tucson & sedona was plenty awesome. But back home, it's nasty business.
	9:35am Lee: This Sharrock cut is one of my hands down all time favorite songs. Thanks for the continued RRrockin' Jason
	9:36am nyc: Morning Jason, all. Wow, lot's of conversation already!
	9:36am BSI: also, yes. Looking forward to the Karaganis chat...
	9:37am dc pat: THIS IS AMAZING! Yeah, I don't mind driving Suburbans straight up the mountains in PA. Good stuff...
	9:42am JInx: what was that song played at 9;30....sounded kind of like The Doors, the lyric was something like "got my morning bells..."
	9:44am Cecile: Cheri, I am a'skeered of bears. They are nuts. Glad your mom got home OK.
	9:52am Cheri Pi: The insurance adjuster had never seen dents with bear hair in them.
	9:53am Cecile: well, not down there. LOL! Wolves and big cats (unless they are protecting young) will leave people the hell alone. Bears? You just never know. They go their way, I go mine.
	9:59am John: Your show has driven my coworker to leave the office. she could not stand the woman screaming. Awesome show! thanks,
	9:59am BSI: Ah nice. A favorite TG item there (the live version on, i think it was, Thee Psychick Sacrifice, particularly)
	10:19am Cecile: I'm not a fan of Kristin Hersh musically, but she is a huge model for those of us living with mental ailments and illnesses.
	10:20am Cecile: She's the poster child for how to handle bi-polar disorder right.
	10:26am Yair Yona (Tel Aviv, Israel, Earth): Hello everyone, jumping in
	10:27am dc pat: this set is kicking...
	10:43am rada: copyright infringement is your patriotic duty.
	11:00am earwax: What are the proposed penalties for false accusation of infringement? Would it be possible to shut down a Disney web site with an accusation of infringement or does this sword only cut one way?
	11:00am bw: good to hear that Jason!
	11:00am earwax: Thanks Jason and Joe
	11:01am AbeSomething: Thanks for that interview, Jason. It's an issue we all need to be very aware of. Much appreciated!
	11:02am don: great interview, jason.
	11:06am rada: I loved comment about people naturally wanting to share music. Indeed.
	11:16am nyc: Whoa, Chuck Bettis, two Canty's and Amy Farina!
	11:17am pyropingvin: Sherbet Underground - download all albums legally http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Sherbet+Underground%22
	11:18am Jason: yeah pyropingvin! They were just featured on the Free Music Archive by Radio Net1zen from Subotica http://freemusicarchive.org/member/procedura/blog/Sherbet_Underground_from_Balkan_Recycling_Pit_of_Yesteryear
	11:20am Cecile: I am actually trying to have lerss music in my life but understand and enjoy it more.
	11:22am Jason: hey earwax, I'm not sure what the increased penalties are, anybody know? SOPA infographic: http://americancensorship.org/images/SOPAinfographic.png
	11:26am jason: can anyone help translate this French Explosion de l'ego dans une mercerie de conscience autodidacte ?
	11:39am Carmichael: Where's Pierre when you need him?? Hey hey, everyone.
	11:43am Roy: it means something like: ego explosion in a "(boutique) haberdasher's shop GB, notions store US." of self educated mind.
	11:44am Roy: it´s dificult to translate mercerie
	11:53am Roy: by the way, hello everyone!
	11:54am jason: hey, thanks Roy! They were sayin some insane sounding things in that song, I hope somebody understands what and enlightens us all
	12:00pm Todd 76%: Mercerie means a favor.
	12:00pm coelacanth: Thank you Jason.Great show.Thanks for bringing Joe on .ciao.
	12:01pm Carmichael: OK, I ran it through the Google translator: "Digital elves lost in the Haut Var". " Explosion of the ego in a notion of self-consciousness " " http://tinyurl.com/7st43pw

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November 17, 2011: Media Piracy expert Joe Karaganis on Copy Culture in the U.S. and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

As the House considers the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), media piracy expert Joe Karaganis discusses preliminary conclusions from The Copy Culture Survey: Infringement and Enforcement in the US including the revelation that "piracy" is common.

Joe Karaganis is vice president at The American Assembly at Columbia University and former Program Director at the Social Science Research Council. He is the editor of The Politics of Open Source Adoption (2005), Structures of Participation in Digital Culture (2007), and the landmark report Media Piracy in Emerging Economies (2011).

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Sneakers	Ruby "Ruby" by "Sneakers"	Nonsequitur of Silence	Collector's Choice
Meat Puppets	I Am A Machine "I Am A Machine" by "Meat Puppets"	Mirage	Ryko
The Parasites of the Western World	Politico	Politico b/w Zytol Automation	De Stijl			0:07:13 (Pop-up)
Kevin Ayers	Song for Insane Times	Joy of a Toy	Harvest			0:11:05 (Pop-up)
Television	Little Johnny Jewel "Little Johnny Jewel" by "Television"	Rarities		cdr		0:15:02 (Pop-up)
Tommy Jay / Mike Rep	Learn to Ride	The Grim-O Comix Sequence	Columbus Discount			0:22:07 (Pop-up)
Abner Jay	The Reason Young People Do Drugs	True Story of Abner Jay				0:27:30 (Pop-up)
Street Musicians of Yogyakarta	Dangdut Medley	Street Musicians of Yogyakarta	Mississippi		*	0:28:10 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Portrait of Linda in Three Colors, All Black	Black Woman	Vortex			0:32:03 (Pop-up)

Roberto Cacciapaglia and Ann Steel	Media	The Ann Steel Album				0:46:43 (Pop-up)
Zun Zun Egui	Cowboy "Cowboy" by "Zun Zun Egui"	Katang	Bella Union		*	0:50:52 (Pop-up)
Helios Creed	we're flying.com "we're flying.com" by "Helios Creed"	Galactic Octopi	Transparency		*	0:53:56 (Pop-up)
Throbbing Gristle	Five Knuckle Shuffle	Greatest Hits Reissue + Bonus	Industrial		*	0:56:09 (Pop-up)

Jin Hi Kim and Gerry Hemingway	Pale Blue Dot	Pulses		Free Music Archive		1:03:54 (Pop-up)
K-Holes	Window in the Wall "Window in the Wall" by "K-Holes"	Forthcoming LP		Beware of the Blog		1:12:20 (Pop-up)
Kristin Hersh	Crooked "Crooked" by "Kristin Hersh"			Free Music Archive		1:16:51 (Pop-up)
Starving Weirdos	In Our Way "In Our Way" by "Starving Weirdos"	Land Lines	Amish Records	Free Music Archive	*	1:19:50 (Pop-up)
Copy Culture & SOPA The Copy Culture Survey: Infringement and Enforcement in the US As the House considers the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), media piracy expert Joe Karaganis discusses preliminary conclusions from The Copy Culture Survey: Infringement and Enforcement in the US including the revelation that "piracy" is common. Joe Karaganis is vice president at The American Assembly at Columbia University and former Program Director at the Social Science Research Council. He is the editor of The Politics of Open Source Adoption (2005), Structures of Participation in Digital Culture (2007), and the landmark report Media Piracy in Emerging Economies (2011).
	Media Piracy expert Joe Karaganis on Copy Culture in the U.S. and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)					1:35:01 (Pop-up)

Black Math	To You "To You" by "Black Math"	digital single		Free Music Archive	*	2:02:31 (Pop-up)
Sherbet Underground	Žanet "Žanet" by "Sherbet Underground"		Radio Net1zen	Free Music Archive		2:03:01 (Pop-up)
Zellrasen	Dunno What "Dunno What" by "Zellrasen"	Zellrasen	Headphonica	Free Music Archive	*	2:07:14 (Pop-up)
Sad Horse	Loafer "Loafer" by "Sad Horse"	Eggy Tape	Eggy Tape	Free Music Archive	*	2:11:30 (Pop-up)
All Scars	Man O'War "Man O'War" by "All Scars"	Introduction To Humanity		Free Music Archive		2:13:34 (Pop-up)
Hot Garbage	Health Problems "Health Problems" by "Hot Garbage"	Gut Rut		Free Music Archive		2:15:45 (Pop-up)
Audio K	10.11.2011 "10.11.2011" by "Audio K"			Free Music Archive	*	2:19:55 (Pop-up)
Les elfes digitaux perdus dans le Haut Var	L'explication	Explosion de l'ego dans une mercerie de conscience autodidacte		Free Music Archive		2:25:13 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: KVZE	"KVZE"	Kontrast	Budabeats	Free Music Archive		2:38:24 (Pop-up)
Buraka Som Sistema	Tira o Pe "Tira o Pe" by "Buraka Som Sistema"	Komba	Enchufada		*	2:39:00 (Pop-up)
Boom Bip ft. Money Mark	Manzabozh	Zig Zaj	Lex		*	2:42:20 (Pop-up)
Biting Tongues	Boss Toyota Trouble	Fac. Dance: Factory Records 12" Mixes and Rarities 1980-1987	Strut		*	2:46:20 (Pop-up)
Medusa Cyclone	The Smith Can "The Smith Can" by "Medusa Cyclone"	Mr. Devil	Third Gear			2:51:50 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:04am Good Morning Jason: Dead Corporate Eyes
	9:04am Cheri Pi: Ooo I love this style of horns & glockenspiels.very 80's/
	9:05am Cheri Pi: well-maybe there are no horns,,, did I imagine it?
	9:08am Dead Corporate Eyes: the brain is a tricky thing, as are the ears. Has anyone hit any animals while driving?
	9:10am Cheri Pi: Not that I know of, but my mom hit a black bear on the highway last year.
	9:12am Dead Corporate Eyes: a bear--wow, coming out slugging. I thought we'd start with squirrells and skunks, but a bear!
	9:14am Jason: good morning!
	9:15am Cheri Pi: She had just crossed the Macinac bridge going south at night, not much traffic luckily going about 80. Totalled the passenger door and the bear ran into the woods. She was able to make it back to Cincy just fine.
	9:16am Jason: have never hit an animal while driving knock on wood
	9:16am dc pat: the bear lives in Cincy?
	9:16am r i s k y: Go jay!!!
	9:19am AbeSomething: Just tuning in, maybe I missed something at the start of this song but - what makes this version of "Little Johnny Jewel" a rarity? Sounds like the album version...
	9:21am glenn: what album version? it was released as a 2 sided single on ork records.
	9:23am Dead Corporate Eyes: my brain always says "Girls on Film" when I hear that guitar lick, though.
	9:23am Marmalade Kitty: Great opening set Jason!!
	9:24am Jason: Little Johnny Jewel is a bonus track on Marquee Moon reissue
	9:24am AbeSomething: @Glenn Until this moment I always thought the track was on Marquee Moon. I see now that it was on the CD release as an extra.
	9:25am Cheri Pi: No this was a UP bear in Michigan. We go up there a lot and now always cross our fingers when we're on that stretch of highway.
	9:25am BSI: @DCE: Regarding the roadkill question: My wife took out my brand new earth-killing SUV for the first time (2000) and promptly nailed a gorgeous bright red cardinal. The thing exploded like a tiny supernova. The vents were open. I'll say no more.
	9:27am BSI: postscript: after moving back to dc, promptly sold it. Felt like driving a huge buffalo on the beltway. Thing was ideal for southern AZ but not so good for city driving. Now proudly car-free for several years...
	9:29am dc pat: congrats BSI. I don't know why people even thinking of having those things in the city. Big moby dicks trying to fit into tiny parking spots...
	9:29am dc pat: I love Abner Jay. he did his own thing..
	9:30am Dead Corporate Eyes: @ BSI--that cardinal was kind of a canary in a coal mine.
	9:31am Dead Corporate Eyes: I've been driving 25 + years and have been lucky enough to never have smushed nothing. I see so many dead animals along the road, I just kind of wonder who is the jerk who hits them all?
	9:33am pgw in mntclr: don't stop Sharrockin'
	9:34am glenn: in the springtime here, i can easily see 100 dead raccoons on the road in a 20 mile stretch.
	9:34am Jason: hey everybody been following the Stop Online Piracy Act? It's dangerous and very real -- check out the links at the top of the page and we'll chat about it at 10:30 with media piracy expert Joe Karaganis
	9:34am Cheri Pi: I love this album! And Monkey Pockie Boo
	9:34am BSI: ...grew up in DC, and seeing the gridlock (and the long lines during the '70s gas crisis), never wanted to drive. Didn't even learn until age 31.... Though i will say, taking the xterra up those goat-path mountain roads between tucson & sedona was plenty awesome. But back home, it's nasty business.
	9:35am Lee: This Sharrock cut is one of my hands down all time favorite songs. Thanks for the continued RRrockin' Jason
	9:36am nyc: Morning Jason, all. Wow, lot's of conversation already!
	9:36am BSI: also, yes. Looking forward to the Karaganis chat...
	9:37am dc pat: THIS IS AMAZING! Yeah, I don't mind driving Suburbans straight up the mountains in PA. Good stuff...
	9:42am JInx: what was that song played at 9;30....sounded kind of like The Doors, the lyric was something like "got my morning bells..."
	9:44am Cecile: Cheri, I am a'skeered of bears. They are nuts. Glad your mom got home OK.
	9:52am Cheri Pi: The insurance adjuster had never seen dents with bear hair in them.
	9:53am Cecile: well, not down there. LOL! Wolves and big cats (unless they are protecting young) will leave people the hell alone. Bears? You just never know. They go their way, I go mine.
	9:59am John: Your show has driven my coworker to leave the office. she could not stand the woman screaming. Awesome show! thanks,
	9:59am BSI: Ah nice. A favorite TG item there (the live version on, i think it was, Thee Psychick Sacrifice, particularly)
	10:19am Cecile: I'm not a fan of Kristin Hersh musically, but she is a huge model for those of us living with mental ailments and illnesses.
	10:20am Cecile: She's the poster child for how to handle bi-polar disorder right.
	10:26am Yair Yona (Tel Aviv, Israel, Earth): Hello everyone, jumping in
	10:27am dc pat: this set is kicking...
	10:43am rada: copyright infringement is your patriotic duty.
	11:00am earwax: What are the proposed penalties for false accusation of infringement? Would it be possible to shut down a Disney web site with an accusation of infringement or does this sword only cut one way?
	11:00am bw: good to hear that Jason!
	11:00am earwax: Thanks Jason and Joe
	11:01am AbeSomething: Thanks for that interview, Jason. It's an issue we all need to be very aware of. Much appreciated!
	11:02am don: great interview, jason.
	11:06am rada: I loved comment about people naturally wanting to share music. Indeed.
	11:16am nyc: Whoa, Chuck Bettis, two Canty's and Amy Farina!
	11:17am pyropingvin: Sherbet Underground - download all albums legally http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Sherbet+Underground%22
	11:18am Jason: yeah pyropingvin! They were just featured on the Free Music Archive by Radio Net1zen from Subotica http://freemusicarchive.org/member/procedura/blog/Sherbet_Underground_from_Balkan_Recycling_Pit_of_Yesteryear
	11:20am Cecile: I am actually trying to have lerss music in my life but understand and enjoy it more.
	11:22am Jason: hey earwax, I'm not sure what the increased penalties are, anybody know? SOPA infographic: http://americancensorship.org/images/SOPAinfographic.png
	11:26am jason: can anyone help translate this French Explosion de l'ego dans une mercerie de conscience autodidacte ?
	11:39am Carmichael: Where's Pierre when you need him?? Hey hey, everyone.
	11:43am Roy: it means something like: ego explosion in a "(boutique) haberdasher's shop GB, notions store US." of self educated mind.
	11:44am Roy: it´s dificult to translate mercerie
	11:53am Roy: by the way, hello everyone!
	11:54am jason: hey, thanks Roy! They were sayin some insane sounding things in that song, I hope somebody understands what and enlightens us all
	12:00pm Todd 76%: Mercerie means a favor.
	12:00pm coelacanth: Thank you Jason.Great show.Thanks for bringing Joe on .ciao.
	12:01pm Carmichael: OK, I ran it through the Google translator: "Digital elves lost in the Haut Var". " Explosion of the ego in a notion of self-consciousness " " http://tinyurl.com/7st43pw

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