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Favoriting December 15, 2011: OCCUPY GOLDMAN SACHS / WORLD FINANCIAL CENTER

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Listener comments!

  6:04pm
Matt from Springfield:

Yes, Goldman DOES suck!
Hiya Clay!
  6:04pm
Clay:

Hello.
  6:06pm
kata:

afternoon Clay and Matt.
  6:07pm
Clay:

Hi Matt! Good evening, Kata.
  6:07pm
Matt from Springfield:

Afternoon kata!
  6:07pm
Marmalade Kitty:

Yo Clay, Matt, Kata & all!!!
  6:09pm
Matt from Springfield:

Hey MKitty!
How are things in Mad-chester? :)
  6:10pm
phillip:

Hello everybody! Has anybody seen Rick Perry's website? Dear O dear!
  6:10pm
Matt from Springfield:

Baritone bugles are not class warfare--they're math!
That's a Repub slander!
  6:12pm
Matt from Springfield:

Good evening phillip.
What, the video or the front page of:
"Skip to website >
Contribute $"
  6:12pm
kata:

ooh, dig the pigeon-shadows image Clay!
  6:12pm
david:

anarcho-syndicalism sounds like some Wobbly action to me...
  6:14pm
Matt from Springfield:

Wow, that is a good Pidge visual!
@david: I always think of the Spanish Civil War when I see "anarcho-syndicalism", that's the furthest A-S got in practice.
  6:17pm
Not on the meds:

Are all your interviewees on them? And are they all nuts? No, of course not. This is America! Show 'em the flag, boys!
And get "medicated."
  6:17pm
phillip:

I think Perry's run will finally get him out of the Governor's seat here in Texas. With Perry and G.W running this state for the last 20 plus years it is long overdue now. Oh yes Matt, no solutions and issues, but just a straight up donation page? HA! Political suicide.
  6:18pm
david:

MFS agreed - the general strkes in the first decades of the 20th c. America had some A-S elements to them...
  6:19pm
Fredericks:

Listening "live" for the first time in weeks. It's more fun this way!
  6:19pm
Clay:

Ken and Fab were hanging out. Good to see you guys here.
  6:20pm
kata:

@phillip -- every time Perry opens his mouth is political suicide..
  6:21pm
Clay:

Hey Fredericks!
  6:21pm
Fredericks:

Ken and Fabio are where Clayton?
  6:21pm
Matt from Springfield:

Rick's Kamikaze Political Machine!
  6:22pm
Matt from Springfield:

While Ben & Jerrys is a more responsible corporation than most, I bet they'll be the first to exploit OWS for $. I can see it now, "OccuPie WallNut"...
  6:22pm
Clay:

They were here in the studio, Fredericks, fraternizing with me. One-Hour Martinizing.
  6:23pm
Matt from Springfield:

Sweet cream ice cream with walnuts, chunks of pecan pie filling and caramel swirl. Sounds good, but I'm always uneasy about expropriating other things for one's own interest.
  6:23pm
kata:

oh go to sleep you tourist bags!
  6:24pm
phillip:

Sadly, Perry only brought in minimum wage jobs to Texas, but he sees it as careers being made. So McDonald's, Burger King, Carl's Jr., Wal-Mart, Target, and Cinnabon are "careers"?
  6:24pm
kata:

[I wasn't saying that to you guys, I was talking to that lady Clay interviewed...]
  6:25pm
Clay:

Tourist bags!
  6:25pm
david:

"The right of the First Amendment is protected, BUT..."
  6:25pm
Marmalade Kitty:

I'd love to visit NY and experience the occupy
  6:26pm
Matt from Springfield:

@phillip: What about the tipping point when no one can afford to go out, and instead take restaurant leftovers where they work and eat hot dogs without buns--the lack of any base is eventually going to implode even those places.
  6:26pm
Danne D:

I'm having a craving for donuts
  6:26pm
david:

Occupy a Twilight ticket line, y'hippies!
  6:26pm
Clay:

You'd love it, Kitty. New York awaits.
  6:27pm
kata:

Every time people complain about the protests and say "I think they should use other means to get their message across," I'm always like: "such as?" and they never have any suggestions!
  6:27pm
Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: Hi there!
How about the new B&Js flavor? ;)
  6:28pm
Matt from Springfield:

"Know Your Rights"!! One of my fav Clash songs, even from high school.
  6:28pm
depressed Persian cab driver:

Matt is right. Sorry, but the persons with time and energy to spend on this for months on end are supported by parents or somebody with a job or trust fund.They sure don't have kids to look after.
i am sure we will see more next year. Happy 2012 Clay!
  6:28pm
Clay:

Ha hA Danny. Donuts!
  6:28pm
Matt from Springfield:

"You have the right -- to free speech...
Unless of course you're dumb enough
to actually try it!"
  6:29pm
david:

@MK The energy of the NYC ows events, being physically there, is amazing - something that can't quite be captured on video or news stories... (Clay comes closest obviously.)
  6:29pm
Clay:

You got it Matt
  6:31pm
Matt from Springfield:

"As long as you're not dumb enough"...
Just about right though! I used to quote that.
  6:31pm
Danne D:

@Matt I try to stay away from nuts myself, but I think you may have a hit there
  6:31pm
Clay:

Giulliani
  6:32pm
Danne D:

Bernie Kerrick still occupying a jail cell?
  6:32pm
Matt from Springfield:

Ha ha, this guy's straight out of a 1970 Nixon rally!
Only less effective and more tone-deaf!
  6:33pm
Marmalade Kitty:

insult the workers..?
  6:33pm
kata:

Clay, I love your gentle/benign way of asking if someone is a conservative voter generally..
  6:35pm
Danne D:

I'm more circumspect in terms of putting views here on the comments. I think Clay does a great service by getting out and talking to people on all sides around ows, whether or not he agrees with them.
  6:35pm
phillip:

Today on a San Antonio news broadcast, one news anchor had just come back from Mexico and joked about, "not dying and being chopped up into little pieces", while the other anchor laughed and said, "oh and you didn't get kidnapped too".
  6:37pm
Clay:

TY Kata.
TY Danne.
I love Mexico and her people.
  6:37pm
Matt from Springfield:

You see this, phillip?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/birthers-fly-message-over-a-closed-dome-football-s
  6:37pm
Danne D:

Um - Life Expectancy of 100?
  6:37pm
depressed Persian cab driver:

Wow! This is an interviewee worthy of more airplay!
  6:38pm
Clay:

I thought that was odd, too, Danne.
  6:38pm
kata:

Mark Twain: "It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them."
  6:39pm
Clay:

Fair and Unbalanced Coverage, Persian Cab Driver!! That's what I provide.
  6:39pm
Danne D:

Well he works for a brokerage not an insurance company
  6:40pm
Danne D:

The pigeons pictured do not appear to be made of Clay.
  6:40pm
Clay:

Ken put that image up there. Of the pigeons.
  6:41pm
phillip:

@Matt: I will definitely check that one. Just from the description, I'm sure its very laughable.
  6:41pm
Matt from Springfield:

Helping people move their discontent from the cyber to the real world--Occupy has been great for that. Leaders not present nor needed for that either!
  6:42pm
phillip:

Ken always has some great images.
  6:42pm
Clay:

Good point, Matt.
  6:42pm
Danne D:

I thank this guy for George W Bush.
  6:43pm
Danne D:

Really appreciate it.
  6:43pm
kata:

if you eat enough salt-water fishes, kim-chee and and turmeric, you can live to 100 ;)
  6:43pm
Danne D:

So Clay, those are hippie pigeons then?
  6:44pm
Clay:

My Great-grandma Nelson lived to be 104. Her brother was 103. Am I just imagining that? The past becomes a blur. I think it's true.
  6:45pm
kata:

I gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for a long time. When he changed his mind about Palestinian statehood, that was the final straw for me.
  6:45pm
Danne D:

So this guy is denying leaders their humanity.
I can't buy that.
  6:47pm
Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: I'm more realist, so I can understand those who prefer to sit out and keep their ideals. But you won't affect any change that way.
  6:47pm
depressed Persian cab driver:

So, Clay, I'm working on Michael Hiltikz's "The New Deal, A Modern History." It is painful to realize how hard we suffered in the 1930's. This current crap is minor by comparison. Americans were really dying for lack of food then. Now I mostly see Americans dying from the opposite, and unable to fend for themselves.
@kata- exactly! If you mean to lead a country, then do it.
  6:49pm
other david:

@kata - it'll be interesting to see, if re-elected, whether he becomes for forthright on issues like Palestine
  6:50pm
phillip:

I love reading Adbusters. Do you read it also Clay?
  6:50pm
Danne D:

@Matt I'm not quite sure they are effecting change doing what they are doing either. I think it's fine to express your voice. And while I agree with many of the points they make (and more points certainly than the so-called Tea Party people (and they are so called because they do have representation for their taxation)), I'm not seeing the point where an undefined movement works.

Anyhow, I'll hang up and listen.
  6:50pm
Marmalade Kitty:

dPcd: There was food, but no money
  6:51pm
other david:

err, i'm braindead - replace for with more
  6:51pm
Clay:

No, Phillip.
  6:53pm
david:

I'm waiting for the Democrats and Republicans to affect some positive change, but they simply have not made their message clear. You have to have a message if you want it to advance it in the political sphere. (See how I did that?)
  6:53pm
kata:

I think it is extremely clear what the protests are about.. In an "ideal" world, the politicians should listen and act. We have hired the politicians to solve problems. Protesters have a voice, not required or even trained to necessarily form a solution. That's what we elected those assholes to do.
  6:54pm
Clay:

I hope you still have interest in these Occupy shows. I realize that some may wish I would stop. Your input is appreciated. dusty@wfmu.org --- Week-to-week, I have found myself going back to enter the evolving world of OWS. I'll sign-off now. Andy will be here soon. THANKS for listening! Take care and ... always remember! CP 11/11
  6:54pm
Matt from Springfield:

Here's a Christmas gift for Clay, and all the fans of the Occupy series. I was listening live to the Sep 22 2011 episode, the first one to cover this all the way from the beginning. I recently transcribed the short but monumental intro, for your benefit...
  6:54pm
Danne D:

The call backs would get old for me
  6:54pm
Danne D:

Feel like I'm back at Catholic Church
  6:54pm
depressed Persian cab driver:

@MK: The money was apparently worthless. And this all happened before Nixon took us off the gold standard! I hate to think what my neighborhood would become if Obama closed all banks tomorrow.
I want to live in a civil society.
  6:54pm
Marmalade Kitty:

emergency
  6:55pm
Matt from Springfield:

"There's been protesters near Wall Street for the last few days; "Operation Occupy Wall Street", the protesters are calling it. They have hopes of drawing attention to, and getting attention from, financial institutions and government officials whom the protesters feel have facilitated global recession and unemployment over the last few years. I wanted to get down in and amongst the protesters, and the people on the perimeter to find out what was going on. Let's do that on this episode of The Dusty Show." --9/22/11
  6:55pm
Danne D:

@Matt - it's not clear to me

;)
  6:56pm
Clay:

Richie Havens - Freedom - Live at Woodstock
  6:57pm
Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: I think it feels "mindless" to repeat very long ideological tracts in a mic-check, but I LOVE short pointed phrases--it really helps reinforce the message and heartens the protesters.
  6:58pm
Matt from Springfield:

I wanted to make that intro Google-able! :)
Thanks Clay! Have a good night everyone!
  6:58pm
kata:

'nother great show Clay, thank you :) And thanks Matt for the transcription!
  6:58pm
depressed Persian cab driver:

The discussion is still worth it, and thanks Clay!
  6:59pm
david:

MFS - discourse at OWS is usually relegated to practical/strategic issues at hand, not particular ideologies... Ideology considered divisive to a larger movement...
  7:00pm
Matt from Springfield:

@david: We heard some of that in the early days of Zuccotti Park, fortunately it's become more practical since then.
  7:01pm
Marmalade Kitty:

Clay, yours is the only reliable documented source for the OWS movement I have seen
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