WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 17, 2012

Listener comments!
	9:03am earwax: Good morning Trouble and Troubled listeners
	9:03am Ken From Hyde Park: Today's puzzle - How many triangles in the picture?
	♥ 9:04am trouble: good morning all!
	9:05am moose: good morning world of trouble
	♥ 9:06am trouble: good morning moose! lots of typing happening mi casa these days! always sending out thank yous to you thru the solar system!
	9:12am moose: fantastisch
	9:20am ranjit: more organs!
	9:21am annie: good morning all!!
	9:21am dale: morning trouble. watching a red bellied woodpecker at the suet and the bee gees - little pleasures!
	9:22am annie: what is it about the beegees? they don't get old with me..
	9:24am tDK60: Thanks for Brutal Ardour. It's always haunted; that whole album too.
	♥ 9:26am trouble: just listened to that eno yesterday and had forgotten how fabulous it is! tell that woodpecker hello for me, dale
	9:27am BSI: Behold! Crinkly cosmic pillow man thing!
	9:30am erella!: Nice to hear this Scritti Politti song. I went to see them live in toronto in 2008 or something and I think there 20 people in the audience. Crazy.
	9:37am annie: erella! hey!
	9:38am erella!: Morning Annie!
	9:40am dale: princess leia would not make a good deejay.
	9:40am still b/p: Emergency! Everybody to get from street!
	9:40am annie: emergency emergency, all people to get from street!
	9:41am annie: bp! you owe me a beer or maybe i owe you
	9:41am still b/p: Jinsk!
	9:41am healey: good morning to all in the modern world
	9:42am BSI: I'll settle this. Both of you can owe ME a beer. I am the peacemaker. Yes the hell I am.
	9:42am annie: and then there's this: "don't do that no more!!" on the way bsi...
	9:43am still b/p: Emergency! Everybody to cover BSI bar bill!
	9:44am BSI: ...and some opera glasses, please. I can't see the TV from this booth. Sunderland will surely be punished, but can't see how badly...
	9:46am dc pat: what did Sunderland do?
	9:47am BSI: They showed up, which was enough.
	9:49am tony: Like that film too. Big fan of Carl Reiner. Today is Andy Kaufman's birthday.
	9:52am dc pat: surely you mean Swansea?
	10:00am annie: so, trouble, did dj icepack finally get his typewriter? everytime i see one at a yard sale i think of him.
	♥ 10:04am trouble: that is very sweet of you to ask annie. yes listener moose contributed one to the cause and it rocks! he loves it. it occupies a place on honor in the den.
	10:04am Skirkie: I just read on the internet that it was Françoise Hardy's birthday.
	10:05am annie: oh cool, i was thinking that's what that earlier comment was.. typewriters are so cool, i love them..
	10:09am pgw in mntclr: oh Françoise... swoon.
	10:09am Jennique: lightning = foudre
	10:09am BSI: DCP: neh, it was a replay from 14jan, I think. I'm firmly in the "anybody but chelsea" camp, but I'd rather watch those blue goons than the other sports on offer.
	♥ 10:10am trouble: bonjour jennique! ca va?
	10:11am BSI: Light crowds at the Elephant & Castle on Pennsylvania Ave., which was surprising given the MLK festivities.
	10:12am Jennique: Ca va okay. Back from my whirlwind tour of California and missing it. Saw so many great things including my pops - post hip surgery. Highlights were whale spouts out on the Pacific, dolphins, seals, hummingbirds, and the ever favorite pelican.
	10:22am dc pat: I see. Yeah I'm with you on Chelsea. How do they stay in the top 4, dammit?
	10:26am DaveInSoDak: "To honor our French friend, we have French fries, French toast, French dressing, and to drink - Peru!" - [Better Off Dead]
	♥ 10:34am trouble: i need to remind myself to tell you about the this is the modern world with trouble facebook pagee thinggeeee: www.facebook.com...
	♥ 10:35am trouble: today's fab artwork is by the lovley patrick o'rorke. sort of a semi installation shot, but fab none the less!
	10:48am Brian in UK: "He speaks French" Newt slagging off Mitt (yes we are on first name terms) Is that the worst he can come up with? Republicans doing their best to mess things up. Makes tricky dicky look classy. PS hello, heard several woodpeckers in the woods on sunday walking el doggo.
	10:49am Mike East: didn't his mama teach him not to put a plastic bag over his head!
	♥ 10:51am trouble: hey brian in Uk, thanks for the clips you sent me! yes "he speaks french" ; pretty deadly with the campaign assaults over here...
	10:52am erella!: So, is it possible that 45% of americans think Mitt Romney's first name is short for Mittens?
	10:54am Brian in UK: Newt is short for Newton so is he defying gravity?
	♥ 10:55am trouble: bonjour erella! i would like to believe that, because it is a lot more poetic than the ugly truth. BUT what source are you looking at?
	10:57am moose: i think it was 3 percent but i like that the rumored percentage is growing
	10:57am Brian in UK: This chorus sounds like 'Be Thankful for What You've Got'
	♥ 10:57am trouble: i would like newtr to be short for fig newton, a delicious cookie...
	10:57am ?: " . . .diamond in the back, sun roof top . . ."
	10:58am Mike East: I believe his name is Mittens, even though I know its not. More fun that way. Was "He speaks French" really used as an insult? What's wrong with the people in this country? (rhetorical, please don't answer)
	11:01am jt: royal trux!
	11:01am DaveInSoDak: Also Benjamin Franklin's birthday. Capricorns are cool.
	11:01am Patrick: royal trux!
	11:01am erella!: I understand he was named after a friend of the family and that Mitt was short for Milton . I think this is so funny though. It is one of the few pleasant Mitt thoughts that comes forth.
	11:02am Mike Sin: Gene Clark's "Roadmaster" LP is perfect for grey, winter days.
	11:02am Brian in UK: It was used as part of a TV/propaganda campaign from Gingrich. The final bad thing that is Romney. I heard it on UK radio this AM. Nearly crashed the car.
	11:02am Patrick: nice art choice today!
	11:06am Skirkie: I've written Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ) already and have received reply that he will in fact oppose the bill.
	11:06am earwax: From a WFMU tweet - Change All Online Instances of "Mitt Romney" to "Mittens Romney:" Extensions for Chrome, Safari & Firefox: http://is.gd/REz4zC
	11:08am herb: what? you're not gonna be here next week? and TODD-O-PHONIC TODD is gonna sub for you? but, but, he's so, so... loud! and, he'd never play BELLE & SEBASTIAN. oh well...
	11:09am Jennique: I keep thinking of a catchers mitt for Romney, or that Eames lounge chair. Charles's vision was for a chair with "the warm, receptive look of a well-used first baseman's mitt" Newt makes me think of the little amphibian.
	11:09am annie: (feel free to join the GMWatch fb page; more news than you care to see. it's a page i created for the website and we have over 3500 fans...)
	11:11am Jennique: Trouble - enjoy LA! Go to the Getty if you haven't already.
	11:12am Brian in UK: Fans of B&S might be interested in this and the principle behind it. http://godhelpthegirl.com/
	11:12am Patrick: the latest news about the sopa bill is that Obama will MOST LIKELY NOT sign it into law if the bill passes congress. http://mashable.com/2012/01/16/obama-sopa-position/ seems consistent with a white house that invited FMU's own Kenny G to speak about the pro's of piracy, plagiarism and appropriation.
	11:16am northguineahills: Man, I miss Little Claw!
	♥ 11:17am trouble: glad you think so patrick! thanks for the obama heads up. jennique i have seen the getty, years ago, want to see the beatrice wood show in santa monica.
	11:20am Mike Sin: For the record -- Some of us who oppose the SOPA bill still think "the pro's of piracy, plagiarism and appropriation" is a bullshit argument, though.
	11:22am moose: enjoy your days people- i'm falling out of the nest- thanks dj
	11:22am rst-wiley: But it's a religion - www.copyism.org
	11:24am Cecile: I am so out of it. I forgot today was Tuesday!
	11:26am Tiresome Pedant: "Pros" does not have an apostrophe.
	11:28am seang: boogie down!
	11:28am annie: i just finished reading an article in a local rag with misplaced apostrophe's every where, make's me annoyed. :-D
	11:31am don: ruby tuesday ridin the proverbial wave
	11:33am Jennique: Beatrice Wood "The Mama of Dada" Nice!
	11:34am Patrick: @ mike sin, i dont disagree with you. im not saying that im pro piracy, and the Obama administration is not taking a pro piracy stance either, they are saying that the bill could get in the way of job creation, through American invention and ingenuity... my nod to kenny was more tongue in cheek, considering the slack he got from both the left and right for that appearance at the White House. i do think that Kenny G makes some interesting points, and his stance on it as a possible tool for education is one of them. i have been slowly working my way through his most recent book and there are plenty of things that are over the top, but he also makes good points. im glad that the guy exists.
	11:34am Brian in UK: Gotta cut & run. Dada for now. Enjoy the West Coast, trouble.
	11:38am Patrick: im also glad that this conversation exists around this unbelievably anti first amendment bill.
	11:43am Nathan: The bill sucks. We've got the DMCA and safe harbors, surely that should be enough and has been enough, without any legislation that creates further bars to expression on the internet. I'm not a fan of piracy, but the companies whom sponsor these bills should innovate rather than legislate their way out of their problems.
	11:46am Mike Sin: @Patrick -- all points taken, and I liked reading your clarification. The comments page does lend itself to more "hit and run" statements that can be misconstrued... which I was just guilty of doing. As stated, I just don’t like the draconian nature of this bill, but I do indeed have major problems with the amount of piracy and copyright infringement on the internet especially from foreign sites… That said, I do enjoy all of Kenny G’s perspectives. I just get a bit unnerved when one’s stance on a bill such as SOPA gets painted with black-and-white strokes, as it were.
	11:50am Parq: I strongly suspect that SOPA in its current form is a bait-and-switch. The sponsors will make a big show of seeming to cave, and will offer a less draconian bill. What they'll offer will do plenty to restrict free information, and might have been opposed if they'd offered it first-thing. By instead leading with an outrageous proposal, they're setting us up to look at the final one and say, "Oh, that's okay then, I guess we can live with that."
	11:51am annie: exactly what happened to the "food safety" bill
	♥ 11:57am trouble: until our government officials are not bought and sold by private large money enterprise ( ie we need a campaign funding restriction bill NOW) we will continue to have 'legislation' that is mildly hiding its point: letting big business remain big and powerful, making $ hand over fist. i am not a piracy fan, as an artist we should get paid for what we do, but that system does also not exist in the present world. ciao kitties see you in two weeks

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from January 17, 2012

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
peter cusack	beijing wind with caged birds	favourite beijing sounds	kwanyin records				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
eve beglarian	wonder counselor "wonder counselor" by "eve beglarian"	tell the birds					0:02:42 (Pop-up)
brian eno	brutal ardour/three variations on the canon in d major by pachelbel	discreet music					0:12:15 (Pop-up)
bee gees	holiday "holiday" by "bee gees"						0:19:02 (Pop-up)
paul bley jimmy giuffre steve swallow	clarinet zone	The Life of a Trio: Saturday					0:21:58 (Pop-up)
hector macandrew and alice mearns	dean briggs/banks hornpipe	Whaur the Pig Gaed On the Spree: Scottish Recordings by Alan Lomax	drag city			*	0:24:04 (Pop-up)
scritti politti	the sweetest girl (demo)						0:27:02 (Pop-up)

the be good tanyas	human thing "human thing" by "the be good tanyas"	hello love					0:40:44 (Pop-up)
the howling hex	brunette roulette	wilson semiconductors	drag city			*	0:45:01 (Pop-up)
glenda collins	you're gonna get your way						0:53:27 (Pop-up)
zomby	riding with death "riding with death" by "zomby"	dedication				*	0:56:12 (Pop-up)
santogold	L.E.S. Artistes (XXXchange remix)						0:58:39 (Pop-up)
the first class	surfer queen "surfer queen" by "the first class"	starting with the 70's vol 2: evan funk davies 2011 wfmu premium	wfmu				1:02:21 (Pop-up)

billy paul	east "east" by "billy paul"	going east					1:09:23 (Pop-up)
susana baca	el fusil del poeta "el fusil del poeta" by "susana baca"	seis poemas					1:15:49 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	voila "voila" by "francoise hardy"	ma jeuness fout de camp			happy birthday francoise!		1:20:25 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	mon monde n'est pas vrai	soleil					1:23:50 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	j'suis d'accord "j'suis d'accord" by "francoise hardy"	the yeh yeh girl from paris!					1:26:43 (Pop-up)
francoise hardy	in the sky "in the sky" by "francoise hardy"						1:28:23 (Pop-up)
bot'ox	blue steel "blue steel" by "bot'ox"						1:30:47 (Pop-up)
pulsallama	oui oui "oui oui" by "pulsallama"						1:35:47 (Pop-up)
telephone	le vaudou "le vaudou" by "telephone"	telephone					1:39:49 (Pop-up)
Black Bananas	tv trouble "tv trouble" by "Black Bananas"	rad times xpress I V	drag city			*	1:42:01 (Pop-up)
Fabienne DelSol	take your seat "take your seat" by "Fabienne DelSol"						1:45:48 (Pop-up)
gene clark	shooting star "shooting star" by "gene clark"	roadmaster	sundazed	1972		*	1:49:19 (Pop-up)
class actress	limousine "limousine" by "class actress"	Rapprocher	carpark			*	1:58:14 (Pop-up)

belle and sebastian	act of the apostle	the life pursuit					2:06:44 (Pop-up)
real estate	three blocks "three blocks" by "real estate"	days				*	2:09:23 (Pop-up)
little claw	frankie "frankie" by "little claw"	human taste					2:12:37 (Pop-up)
ric cartey	strange love "strange love" by "ric cartey"						2:17:22 (Pop-up)
neon indian	terminally chill "terminally chill" by "neon indian"	psychic chasms					2:19:05 (Pop-up)
ey vallah	pooran "pooran" by "ey vallah"	Rangarang:Pre revolutionary Iranian Pop	vampi soul			*	2:24:06 (Pop-up)
peter bjorn and john	young folks "young folks" by "peter bjorn and john"						2:26:50 (Pop-up)
minitel rose	magic powder "magic powder" by "minitel rose"						2:33:19 (Pop-up)
blossom dearie	i'm hip "i'm hip" by "blossom dearie"	Blossom Dearie for Café Aprés-midi					2:34:51 (Pop-up)
savannah churchhill and her all star seven	Fat Meat Is Good Meat	barbecue Any Old Time: Blues From the Pit 1927-1942	old hat			*	2:37:47 (Pop-up)
hortense ellis	i'm just a girl "i'm just a girl" by "hortense ellis"	studio one women v/a					2:40:10 (Pop-up)
onra	one for the wu "one for the wu" by "onra"	chinoiseries pt 2	all city recordings			*	2:47:54 (Pop-up)
seu jorge	o samba tai "o samba tai" by "seu jorge"	carolina					2:48:58 (Pop-up)
kim ki o	zorlar, zorlar "zorlar, zorlar" by "kim ki o"	dans					2:53:49 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03am earwax: Good morning Trouble and Troubled listeners
	9:03am Ken From Hyde Park: Today's puzzle - How many triangles in the picture?
	♥ 9:04am trouble: good morning all!
	9:05am moose: good morning world of trouble
	♥ 9:06am trouble: good morning moose! lots of typing happening mi casa these days! always sending out thank yous to you thru the solar system!
	9:12am moose: fantastisch
	9:20am ranjit: more organs!
	9:21am annie: good morning all!!
	9:21am dale: morning trouble. watching a red bellied woodpecker at the suet and the bee gees - little pleasures!
	9:22am annie: what is it about the beegees? they don't get old with me..
	9:24am tDK60: Thanks for Brutal Ardour. It's always haunted; that whole album too.
	♥ 9:26am trouble: just listened to that eno yesterday and had forgotten how fabulous it is! tell that woodpecker hello for me, dale
	9:27am BSI: Behold! Crinkly cosmic pillow man thing!
	9:30am erella!: Nice to hear this Scritti Politti song. I went to see them live in toronto in 2008 or something and I think there 20 people in the audience. Crazy.
	9:37am annie: erella! hey!
	9:38am erella!: Morning Annie!
	9:40am dale: princess leia would not make a good deejay.
	9:40am still b/p: Emergency! Everybody to get from street!
	9:40am annie: emergency emergency, all people to get from street!
	9:41am annie: bp! you owe me a beer or maybe i owe you
	9:41am still b/p: Jinsk!
	9:41am healey: good morning to all in the modern world
	9:42am BSI: I'll settle this. Both of you can owe ME a beer. I am the peacemaker. Yes the hell I am.
	9:42am annie: and then there's this: "don't do that no more!!" on the way bsi...
	9:43am still b/p: Emergency! Everybody to cover BSI bar bill!
	9:44am BSI: ...and some opera glasses, please. I can't see the TV from this booth. Sunderland will surely be punished, but can't see how badly...
	9:46am dc pat: what did Sunderland do?
	9:47am BSI: They showed up, which was enough.
	9:49am tony: Like that film too. Big fan of Carl Reiner. Today is Andy Kaufman's birthday.
	9:52am dc pat: surely you mean Swansea?
	10:00am annie: so, trouble, did dj icepack finally get his typewriter? everytime i see one at a yard sale i think of him.
	♥ 10:04am trouble: that is very sweet of you to ask annie. yes listener moose contributed one to the cause and it rocks! he loves it. it occupies a place on honor in the den.
	10:04am Skirkie: I just read on the internet that it was Françoise Hardy's birthday.
	10:05am annie: oh cool, i was thinking that's what that earlier comment was.. typewriters are so cool, i love them..
	10:09am pgw in mntclr: oh Françoise... swoon.
	10:09am Jennique: lightning = foudre
	10:09am BSI: DCP: neh, it was a replay from 14jan, I think. I'm firmly in the "anybody but chelsea" camp, but I'd rather watch those blue goons than the other sports on offer.
	♥ 10:10am trouble: bonjour jennique! ca va?
	10:11am BSI: Light crowds at the Elephant & Castle on Pennsylvania Ave., which was surprising given the MLK festivities.
	10:12am Jennique: Ca va okay. Back from my whirlwind tour of California and missing it. Saw so many great things including my pops - post hip surgery. Highlights were whale spouts out on the Pacific, dolphins, seals, hummingbirds, and the ever favorite pelican.
	10:22am dc pat: I see. Yeah I'm with you on Chelsea. How do they stay in the top 4, dammit?
	10:26am DaveInSoDak: "To honor our French friend, we have French fries, French toast, French dressing, and to drink - Peru!" - [Better Off Dead]
	♥ 10:34am trouble: i need to remind myself to tell you about the this is the modern world with trouble facebook pagee thinggeeee: www.facebook.com...
	♥ 10:35am trouble: today's fab artwork is by the lovley patrick o'rorke. sort of a semi installation shot, but fab none the less!
	10:48am Brian in UK: "He speaks French" Newt slagging off Mitt (yes we are on first name terms) Is that the worst he can come up with? Republicans doing their best to mess things up. Makes tricky dicky look classy. PS hello, heard several woodpeckers in the woods on sunday walking el doggo.
	10:49am Mike East: didn't his mama teach him not to put a plastic bag over his head!
	♥ 10:51am trouble: hey brian in Uk, thanks for the clips you sent me! yes "he speaks french" ; pretty deadly with the campaign assaults over here...
	10:52am erella!: So, is it possible that 45% of americans think Mitt Romney's first name is short for Mittens?
	10:54am Brian in UK: Newt is short for Newton so is he defying gravity?
	♥ 10:55am trouble: bonjour erella! i would like to believe that, because it is a lot more poetic than the ugly truth. BUT what source are you looking at?
	10:57am moose: i think it was 3 percent but i like that the rumored percentage is growing
	10:57am Brian in UK: This chorus sounds like 'Be Thankful for What You've Got'
	♥ 10:57am trouble: i would like newtr to be short for fig newton, a delicious cookie...
	10:57am ?: " . . .diamond in the back, sun roof top . . ."
	10:58am Mike East: I believe his name is Mittens, even though I know its not. More fun that way. Was "He speaks French" really used as an insult? What's wrong with the people in this country? (rhetorical, please don't answer)
	11:01am jt: royal trux!
	11:01am DaveInSoDak: Also Benjamin Franklin's birthday. Capricorns are cool.
	11:01am Patrick: royal trux!
	11:01am erella!: I understand he was named after a friend of the family and that Mitt was short for Milton . I think this is so funny though. It is one of the few pleasant Mitt thoughts that comes forth.
	11:02am Mike Sin: Gene Clark's "Roadmaster" LP is perfect for grey, winter days.
	11:02am Brian in UK: It was used as part of a TV/propaganda campaign from Gingrich. The final bad thing that is Romney. I heard it on UK radio this AM. Nearly crashed the car.
	11:02am Patrick: nice art choice today!
	11:06am Skirkie: I've written Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ) already and have received reply that he will in fact oppose the bill.
	11:06am earwax: From a WFMU tweet - Change All Online Instances of "Mitt Romney" to "Mittens Romney:" Extensions for Chrome, Safari & Firefox: http://is.gd/REz4zC
	11:08am herb: what? you're not gonna be here next week? and TODD-O-PHONIC TODD is gonna sub for you? but, but, he's so, so... loud! and, he'd never play BELLE & SEBASTIAN. oh well...
	11:09am Jennique: I keep thinking of a catchers mitt for Romney, or that Eames lounge chair. Charles's vision was for a chair with "the warm, receptive look of a well-used first baseman's mitt" Newt makes me think of the little amphibian.
	11:09am annie: (feel free to join the GMWatch fb page; more news than you care to see. it's a page i created for the website and we have over 3500 fans...)
	11:11am Jennique: Trouble - enjoy LA! Go to the Getty if you haven't already.
	11:12am Brian in UK: Fans of B&S might be interested in this and the principle behind it. http://godhelpthegirl.com/
	11:12am Patrick: the latest news about the sopa bill is that Obama will MOST LIKELY NOT sign it into law if the bill passes congress. http://mashable.com/2012/01/16/obama-sopa-position/ seems consistent with a white house that invited FMU's own Kenny G to speak about the pro's of piracy, plagiarism and appropriation.
	11:16am northguineahills: Man, I miss Little Claw!
	♥ 11:17am trouble: glad you think so patrick! thanks for the obama heads up. jennique i have seen the getty, years ago, want to see the beatrice wood show in santa monica.
	11:20am Mike Sin: For the record -- Some of us who oppose the SOPA bill still think "the pro's of piracy, plagiarism and appropriation" is a bullshit argument, though.
	11:22am moose: enjoy your days people- i'm falling out of the nest- thanks dj
	11:22am rst-wiley: But it's a religion - www.copyism.org
	11:24am Cecile: I am so out of it. I forgot today was Tuesday!
	11:26am Tiresome Pedant: "Pros" does not have an apostrophe.
	11:28am seang: boogie down!
	11:28am annie: i just finished reading an article in a local rag with misplaced apostrophe's every where, make's me annoyed. :-D
	11:31am don: ruby tuesday ridin the proverbial wave
	11:33am Jennique: Beatrice Wood "The Mama of Dada" Nice!
	11:34am Patrick: @ mike sin, i dont disagree with you. im not saying that im pro piracy, and the Obama administration is not taking a pro piracy stance either, they are saying that the bill could get in the way of job creation, through American invention and ingenuity... my nod to kenny was more tongue in cheek, considering the slack he got from both the left and right for that appearance at the White House. i do think that Kenny G makes some interesting points, and his stance on it as a possible tool for education is one of them. i have been slowly working my way through his most recent book and there are plenty of things that are over the top, but he also makes good points. im glad that the guy exists.
	11:34am Brian in UK: Gotta cut & run. Dada for now. Enjoy the West Coast, trouble.
	11:38am Patrick: im also glad that this conversation exists around this unbelievably anti first amendment bill.
	11:43am Nathan: The bill sucks. We've got the DMCA and safe harbors, surely that should be enough and has been enough, without any legislation that creates further bars to expression on the internet. I'm not a fan of piracy, but the companies whom sponsor these bills should innovate rather than legislate their way out of their problems.
	11:46am Mike Sin: @Patrick -- all points taken, and I liked reading your clarification. The comments page does lend itself to more "hit and run" statements that can be misconstrued... which I was just guilty of doing. As stated, I just don’t like the draconian nature of this bill, but I do indeed have major problems with the amount of piracy and copyright infringement on the internet especially from foreign sites… That said, I do enjoy all of Kenny G’s perspectives. I just get a bit unnerved when one’s stance on a bill such as SOPA gets painted with black-and-white strokes, as it were.
	11:50am Parq: I strongly suspect that SOPA in its current form is a bait-and-switch. The sponsors will make a big show of seeming to cave, and will offer a less draconian bill. What they'll offer will do plenty to restrict free information, and might have been opposed if they'd offered it first-thing. By instead leading with an outrageous proposal, they're setting us up to look at the final one and say, "Oh, that's okay then, I guess we can live with that."
	11:51am annie: exactly what happened to the "food safety" bill
	♥ 11:57am trouble: until our government officials are not bought and sold by private large money enterprise ( ie we need a campaign funding restriction bill NOW) we will continue to have 'legislation' that is mildly hiding its point: letting big business remain big and powerful, making $ hand over fist. i am not a piracy fan, as an artist we should get paid for what we do, but that system does also not exist in the present world. ciao kitties see you in two weeks

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