WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 13, 2013

Listener comments!
	9:05pm G: Nice start for a Sunday night... ends of weekends are always a little blue...
	9:06pm Dave M.: Thanks, G. And good evening, everyone.
	9:07pm bloopy: Good evening DM!!
	9:09pm Dave M.: Hey, bloopy.
	9:28pm G: EST is now Nov to March. They keep shortening it. Daylight time used to only be during the summer, and now runs most of the year (March to Nov.), because most people work 9-5 and want light in the evening. They don't know or care if it's light at 5AM in the summer, they want an hour of that morning light shifted into the evening when they're awake and off work...
	9:29pm JTKMDNY: Standard Time is when it is not Daylight Savings Time so if you just say "Eastern Time" it will be the applicable time (Standard or Daylight Savings)
	9:35pm Droll: "Standard" time is 3 months long. The non-standard part is 9 months long. Congress decides this, so it should seem obvious.
	9:36pm G: I always just say/write Eastern time. You know how many times in online work I've seen people forget whether they actually want/need EST or EDT for months at a time?
	9:38pm G: Yes, Droll, Daylight Saving (singular) Time started out 100 years ago as "summer time". It keeps expanding because of many office workers wanting it, or the government sees it (accurately or not) as an energy-saving thing. In England, they call standard time "winter time", which would make much more sense as a term here in the US these days. :-)
	9:39pm fred von helsing: cool stuff
	9:43pm Droll: Computerstuff that read invites and automagicaly schedule them do require all the arcane notation to be correct. . o O ( Speaking of computers, the one in my oven appears to be malfunctioning... dinner needs attention, back soon )
	9:45pm dave: the durutti column is one of those bands you hear far too rarely and you really can't hear enough of.
	9:45pm Andrew Waterloo: The idea of DST is that you're aligning those who wake up with the clock with those who wake up with the sun
	9:46pm JTKMDNY: Why would you put a computer in the oven?
	9:48pm fred von helsing: Nowadays DST is mainly so kids don't walk to school in the dark. Why not just move around school starting times ?
	9:50pm G: Farmers hate the time change twice a year, AW, and that's why a few places in the US don't do it. (For ex., the whole state of AZ.)
	9:54pm G: And on a mellotron you can only hold a note or chord for eight seconds max, because that's how long the tape snippet for each note was :-)
	9:55pm Dave M.: @G: Correct. 60 inches of tape at 7 1/2 ips!
	9:56pm Andrew Waterloo: I wish Mello Tron was robot they sent into calm riots
	9:56pm Droll: Damnit! I missed the Mellotron part of the show?! Archives. for sure. What makes Mellotron great is Lawrence Welk strings. It's an irreplaceable melancholy, Chamberlain can't compare. (That, and it's the instrument of choice for Prog)
	9:56pm G: Yep, you can always hear 70s mellotron players holding down sustained chords but making sure not to let them go on too long :-)
	9:57pm Dave M.: @Droll: Just one song, but it did have a bunch of Mellotrons on it.
	9:58pm Dave M.: There's an iPhone app called Ellatron where you can get sounds just like a Mellotron. It's hard to play, though. There may be better ones out there.
	10:11pm fred von helsing: @andrew LOL
	10:16pm fred von helsing: you wouldn't consider moving your show to a more europe-friendly time would you ? :)
	10:18pm Dave M.: @fvh: It's out of my hands, unfortunately. It's not all that NY-friendly either.
	10:18pm G: Come on, fred, it's only about 4:15AM on the continent hahaha
	10:18pm Dave M.: Archives!
	10:25pm fred von helsing: archives - check! it's already 525 over here (hellsinki)
	10:25pm G: This isn't dead air, it's life support air :-)
	10:27pm Dave M.: @G: I thought I was so cool about it that no one would even notice.
	10:28pm G: Uh huh, it worked!
	10:30pm Droll: I'm dependent on the archives, but somehow shows on archive seem less like radio and more like a mix tape with someone talking over it. More than once I freaked out at the station ID because I thought it was the top of the hour but it wasn't. The comments are like forgotten graffiti, adding to it is like screaming in space nobody will hear.
	10:31pm Droll: Heh, I thought this was going to be a Dear Prudence cover!
	10:31pm Dave M.: @G: I knew it!
	10:32pm fred von helsing: It's cool that usually the comments make little sense after an FMU show. They're so bound up with the mood of the show and the particular songs.
	10:32pm G: @Droll: I listen to archives if the show topic or focus makes me. Even if I don't listen to every archive, I check out the playlist for interesting items.
	10:34pm Dave M.: I have to confess that I like to listen live. But there are always shows that are hard to hear in real time. For me it's the 3-6 a.m. shows.
	10:36pm Dave M.: You may not know this, but if someone posts a comment to the playlist after the show's over, the DJ automatically gets an email. So we see every one of those comments
	10:39pm G: Often the comments on a show I missed tell me which song(s) to make sure to find and listen to inside the show, if I don't have time to listen to the whole archive. It's always easy to tell if particular comments on an archived show are about the music that's playing, the mic break, things the music reminded people of, reactions to earlier comments, etc. :-)
	10:40pm G: If you missed mellotron earlier, listen up. 1969 mellotron.
	10:44pm Droll: DM, That must be a great random fun generator! I love the ephemeral nano-blogging unthreaded comments, but I also hope it matures into something where there's some long-term continuity to it. Maybe that just means we get accounts so we can see responses to our comments someday, too. . o O ( I can never say enough kind things about KC )
	10:47pm cubicle carl: I think the tail end of the Crimson tune is what is officially known as noodling.
	10:49pm G: The whole instrumental part was supposedly 100% improvisation. Fripp trimmed out a couple of minutes of it (including the infamous "Surrey with the Fringe" quotation) in a recent remaster, but left the full 1969 version as a bonus track.
	10:50pm Dave M.: The tough part will be hitting the stop button just before "In the Court of the Crimson King" starts. It's pretty tight.
	10:50pm Droll: CC, One man's noodling is another man's filler. I say 1) Thankfully an album side is no more than 23 minutes long, limiting damage (unless you're Yes), and 2) I love KC (especially the Belew era)
	10:53pm G: The flute notes in the ballad were mellotron, but I'm not sure there was mellotron in the improv...
	10:57pm Dave M.: Right, there's some at the beginning, but I don't think there's any during the long instrumental section.
	10:58pm Dave M.: There's so much of it on the rest of the record...
	11:00pm Fred: DJ Shadow .... that beat sounds familiar
	11:19pm George of Troy: Hiya Dave. Made it in for the final third, happy to be basking in the sounds.
	11:25pm Dave M.: Hey, George. Welcome.
	11:44pm Deep Curtains: Do you like The Necks?
	11:45pm Dave M.: I do. I played them on my show just a week or two ago.

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 13, 2013

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January 13, 2013

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Albert Nicholas with Art Hodes' All-Star Stompers	How Long Blues	Albert's Back in Town	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Gitta Schäfer	Männerlied "Männerlied" by "Gitta Schäfer"	Translucency	0:06:54 (Pop-up)
David Darling	Earth "Earth" by "David Darling"	Dark Wood	0:11:35 (Pop-up)
Umberto	Boston, 1942 "Boston, 1942" by "Umberto"	Night has a Thousand Screams	0:16:18 (Pop-up)

Musée Mécanique	Like Home "Like Home" by "Musée Mécanique"	Hold This Ghost	0:26:39 (Pop-up)
Pram	Cinnabar "Cinnabar" by "Pram"	North Pole Radio Station	0:30:11 (Pop-up)
Zoltán Pongrácz & Ivan Patachich	The Ballad of Jansci Barna	Hungarian Electroacoustic Music	0:35:18 (Pop-up)
Durutti Column	Sketch for Dawn (1)	LC	0:39:58 (Pop-up)

Pretty Monsters	Patricia Highsmith	Pretty Monsters	0:54:37 (Pop-up)
Scavenger Quartet	Mr. Herrington's Top Hat	Hats	1:02:59 (Pop-up)
The ÖKRÖS Ensemble	Magyarszovati, Szeki Csardas	I Left My Sweet Homeland	1:07:00 (Pop-up)
Muzsikás	Eddig Vendég "Eddig Vendég" by "Muzsikás"	The Prisoner's Song	1:09:43 (Pop-up)
Lau Nau	Juokse Sina Humma "Juokse Sina Humma" by "Lau Nau"	Valohiukkanen	1:13:42 (Pop-up)

13th Amendment	The Stretch "The Stretch" by "13th Amendment"	V/A: Eccentric Soul: Omnibus Vol. 1	1:25:51 (Pop-up)
Minnie Riperton	Les Fleur "Les Fleur" by "Minnie Riperton"	Come to My Garden	1:29:33 (Pop-up)
Angelica Sanchez Quintet	Dare "Dare" by "Angelica Sanchez Quintet"	Wires & Moss	1:33:09 (Pop-up)
King Crimson	Moonchild "Moonchild" by "King Crimson"	In the Court of the Crimson King	1:38:22 (Pop-up)

DJ Shadow	Dreams of a Piece "Dreams of a Piece" by "DJ Shadow"	Total Breakdown: Hidden Transmissions from the MPC Era	1:56:19 (Pop-up)
New York Art Quartet	Karin's Blues	Old Stuff	1:59:06 (Pop-up)
The Naked Future	We Boil the Raven's Skull into Gold	Gigantomachia	2:06:17 (Pop-up)
Honeymoon Killers	Petit Matin "Petit Matin" by "Honeymoon Killers"	Les Tueurs de la Lune de Miel (reissue)	2:15:25 (Pop-up)

Gerry Mulligan	That Old Feeling "That Old Feeling" by "Gerry Mulligan"	Concert Days	2:23:38 (Pop-up)
Doug Carn	Passion Dance "Passion Dance" by "Doug Carn"	Infant Eyes	2:27:35 (Pop-up)
Half High	#8 "#8" by "Half High"	Suspension	2:33:31 (Pop-up)
Nurse With Wound	Spiral Theme "Spiral Theme" by "Nurse With Wound"	A Sucked Orange / Scrag	2:37:11 (Pop-up)

Roberto Musci & Giovanni Venosta	Dusty Zebra	A Noise, a Sound	2:42:48 (Pop-up)
An Ear for a Leg	Sextet "Sextet" by "An Ear for a Leg"	Music from Dance	2:46:04 (Pop-up)
Zhou Pei	eronz335 "eronz335" by "Zhou Pei"	V/A: China: The Sonic Avant-Garde	2:53:49 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:05pm G: Nice start for a Sunday night... ends of weekends are always a little blue...
	9:06pm Dave M.: Thanks, G. And good evening, everyone.
	9:07pm bloopy: Good evening DM!!
	9:09pm Dave M.: Hey, bloopy.
	9:28pm G: EST is now Nov to March. They keep shortening it. Daylight time used to only be during the summer, and now runs most of the year (March to Nov.), because most people work 9-5 and want light in the evening. They don't know or care if it's light at 5AM in the summer, they want an hour of that morning light shifted into the evening when they're awake and off work...
	9:29pm JTKMDNY: Standard Time is when it is not Daylight Savings Time so if you just say "Eastern Time" it will be the applicable time (Standard or Daylight Savings)
	9:35pm Droll: "Standard" time is 3 months long. The non-standard part is 9 months long. Congress decides this, so it should seem obvious.
	9:36pm G: I always just say/write Eastern time. You know how many times in online work I've seen people forget whether they actually want/need EST or EDT for months at a time?
	9:38pm G: Yes, Droll, Daylight Saving (singular) Time started out 100 years ago as "summer time". It keeps expanding because of many office workers wanting it, or the government sees it (accurately or not) as an energy-saving thing. In England, they call standard time "winter time", which would make much more sense as a term here in the US these days. :-)
	9:39pm fred von helsing: cool stuff
	9:43pm Droll: Computerstuff that read invites and automagicaly schedule them do require all the arcane notation to be correct. . o O ( Speaking of computers, the one in my oven appears to be malfunctioning... dinner needs attention, back soon )
	9:45pm dave: the durutti column is one of those bands you hear far too rarely and you really can't hear enough of.
	9:45pm Andrew Waterloo: The idea of DST is that you're aligning those who wake up with the clock with those who wake up with the sun
	9:46pm JTKMDNY: Why would you put a computer in the oven?
	9:48pm fred von helsing: Nowadays DST is mainly so kids don't walk to school in the dark. Why not just move around school starting times ?
	9:50pm G: Farmers hate the time change twice a year, AW, and that's why a few places in the US don't do it. (For ex., the whole state of AZ.)
	9:54pm G: And on a mellotron you can only hold a note or chord for eight seconds max, because that's how long the tape snippet for each note was :-)
	9:55pm Dave M.: @G: Correct. 60 inches of tape at 7 1/2 ips!
	9:56pm Andrew Waterloo: I wish Mello Tron was robot they sent into calm riots
	9:56pm Droll: Damnit! I missed the Mellotron part of the show?! Archives. for sure. What makes Mellotron great is Lawrence Welk strings. It's an irreplaceable melancholy, Chamberlain can't compare. (That, and it's the instrument of choice for Prog)
	9:56pm G: Yep, you can always hear 70s mellotron players holding down sustained chords but making sure not to let them go on too long :-)
	9:57pm Dave M.: @Droll: Just one song, but it did have a bunch of Mellotrons on it.
	9:58pm Dave M.: There's an iPhone app called Ellatron where you can get sounds just like a Mellotron. It's hard to play, though. There may be better ones out there.
	10:11pm fred von helsing: @andrew LOL
	10:16pm fred von helsing: you wouldn't consider moving your show to a more europe-friendly time would you ? :)
	10:18pm Dave M.: @fvh: It's out of my hands, unfortunately. It's not all that NY-friendly either.
	10:18pm G: Come on, fred, it's only about 4:15AM on the continent hahaha
	10:18pm Dave M.: Archives!
	10:25pm fred von helsing: archives - check! it's already 525 over here (hellsinki)
	10:25pm G: This isn't dead air, it's life support air :-)
	10:27pm Dave M.: @G: I thought I was so cool about it that no one would even notice.
	10:28pm G: Uh huh, it worked!
	10:30pm Droll: I'm dependent on the archives, but somehow shows on archive seem less like radio and more like a mix tape with someone talking over it. More than once I freaked out at the station ID because I thought it was the top of the hour but it wasn't. The comments are like forgotten graffiti, adding to it is like screaming in space nobody will hear.
	10:31pm Droll: Heh, I thought this was going to be a Dear Prudence cover!
	10:31pm Dave M.: @G: I knew it!
	10:32pm fred von helsing: It's cool that usually the comments make little sense after an FMU show. They're so bound up with the mood of the show and the particular songs.
	10:32pm G: @Droll: I listen to archives if the show topic or focus makes me. Even if I don't listen to every archive, I check out the playlist for interesting items.
	10:34pm Dave M.: I have to confess that I like to listen live. But there are always shows that are hard to hear in real time. For me it's the 3-6 a.m. shows.
	10:36pm Dave M.: You may not know this, but if someone posts a comment to the playlist after the show's over, the DJ automatically gets an email. So we see every one of those comments
	10:39pm G: Often the comments on a show I missed tell me which song(s) to make sure to find and listen to inside the show, if I don't have time to listen to the whole archive. It's always easy to tell if particular comments on an archived show are about the music that's playing, the mic break, things the music reminded people of, reactions to earlier comments, etc. :-)
	10:40pm G: If you missed mellotron earlier, listen up. 1969 mellotron.
	10:44pm Droll: DM, That must be a great random fun generator! I love the ephemeral nano-blogging unthreaded comments, but I also hope it matures into something where there's some long-term continuity to it. Maybe that just means we get accounts so we can see responses to our comments someday, too. . o O ( I can never say enough kind things about KC )
	10:47pm cubicle carl: I think the tail end of the Crimson tune is what is officially known as noodling.
	10:49pm G: The whole instrumental part was supposedly 100% improvisation. Fripp trimmed out a couple of minutes of it (including the infamous "Surrey with the Fringe" quotation) in a recent remaster, but left the full 1969 version as a bonus track.
	10:50pm Dave M.: The tough part will be hitting the stop button just before "In the Court of the Crimson King" starts. It's pretty tight.
	10:50pm Droll: CC, One man's noodling is another man's filler. I say 1) Thankfully an album side is no more than 23 minutes long, limiting damage (unless you're Yes), and 2) I love KC (especially the Belew era)
	10:53pm G: The flute notes in the ballad were mellotron, but I'm not sure there was mellotron in the improv...
	10:57pm Dave M.: Right, there's some at the beginning, but I don't think there's any during the long instrumental section.
	10:58pm Dave M.: There's so much of it on the rest of the record...
	11:00pm Fred: DJ Shadow .... that beat sounds familiar
	11:19pm George of Troy: Hiya Dave. Made it in for the final third, happy to be basking in the sounds.
	11:25pm Dave M.: Hey, George. Welcome.
	11:44pm Deep Curtains: Do you like The Necks?
	11:45pm Dave M.: I do. I played them on my show just a week or two ago.

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 13, 2013

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