WFMU: Irwin Chusid: Playlist from August 21, 2013

Listener comments!
	👻 3:01pm rrg: Howdy do.
	3:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Foist !
	👻 3:01pm Alison Porchnik: She has bad posture.
	3:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: D'oh!
	👻 3:02pm rrg: There are a lot of cat pictures on the Internet. Even here.
	👻 3:03pm G: Edit is a hell of a sideplayer.
	👻 3:04pm G: The cat is about to eat a bug. Seen it a million times.
	3:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I thot it was a Mark Ryden - but the tag says D_R_Wilson - which is not yeilding this sorta Art w/ a quick&easy Search...
	3:05pm Irwin: Jeez, RRN63, click on the damned art.
	3:05pm still b/p: No one can eat a bug until the queen eats a bug.
	👻 3:06pm rrg: I'm on day 4 of a 5-day azithromycin blister pack and I'm doing much better, thanks.
	3:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I did - I get D_R_Wilson - this is Ryden : media-cache-ec2.pinimg.com...
	3:08pm Laura L: Clicked link but no time to go to the funny farm just now--maybe later.
	3:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Oh - LeftClick - like - 'Click'...
	3:09pm Irwin: LL: Please click on the link. I get 35% of all kitty art sales on the interwebs.
	3:10pm Sean D. Daily: Sorry I'm late to the party.
	👻 3:10pm G: click for your life dammit. it's the interwebb's newest invention yall
	👻 3:11pm rrg: "Introduction by Carrie Fisher." Well, I'll have to read that. But later. LL and I will read it later.
	3:12pm Sean D. Daily: Come for the kitty art. Stay for the slow-motion Matrix olives.
	3:13pm Laura L: Well, whyn't you say so earlier! I hope the interwebs won't break when everybody gets on the interwebs and buys kitty art tonight! Is there enough bandwidth?
	3:14pm Fever: I don't even know what I'm listening to, but my love recommend it, so hi...
	3:15pm still b/p: On the site's Introduction by Carrie Fisher page, I like the maniacally grinning chimp with the asparagus scepter, and I think The Maniacally Grinning Chimp With the Asparagus Scepter is one of the sequels to The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.
	👻 3:15pm rrg: All right, I would like more information about this Passionate and Objective Jokerman.
	👻 3:16pm rrg: Also a good name for a band.
	👻 3:16pm G: These are the O.J. tracks we ran out of time on last week. Settle in.
	3:17pm Droll: How is a Goatman different from a minotaur? Is this one of those 51% things?
	👻 3:17pm rrg: JokerFAN. Not Jokerman. I can never fix that typo. Never. I don't have the power.
	3:17pm Caryn: So, apparently the cat is Kathleen, who is visited by the Virgin Mary in the guise of a housefly. Hmm, this is clearly WFMU-appropriate art.
	👻 3:18pm G: I have an alternate rhyme word for Italy.
	3:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - & my choice of Ryden Link gets better...
	👻 3:18pm rrg: From a blog called "the first song for your mix tape", concerning Mr. Jokerfan: "It was sometime last year that I stumbled upon this less than conventional musician..."
	3:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'wittily' - ?? If that was the singer's rhyme - I'll quittily...
	3:21pm Laura L: So play it all today, Irwin!
	3:22pm Droll: Sadly, there are only about a dozen Incorrect Music archives, most of IM predates the archive. wfmu.org... We want IM airchecks and bootlegs!
	👻 3:22pm rrg: Did you have to pay for these new Jokerfan songs, Irwin? "Commission" kind of implies that you did.
	👻 3:23pm Alison Porchnik: Don't forget Marian McPartland, Irwin.
	👻 3:23pm rrg: So say we all. Droll and me, anyway.
	👻 3:24pm G: i'll throw in on that demand.
	👻 3:26pm G: extremely polite and deferential request. sorry :p
	3:26pm Droll: I used to be on the Cat-Free Internet, but there's tons of cats in costumes on it! It's not worth the extra fees, their cat box filtering technology isn't worth the litter it's made from.
	👻 3:27pm rrg: There were cassette premiums of Incorrect Music in the past (or at least of "Atrocious Music", its predecessor--or maybe calling it a predecessor is an incorrect presumption). I wonder if any of those still exist.
	👻 3:28pm rrg: You can't say the name of this album on the air. Even though this is fucking America!
	👻 3:30pm Alison Porchnik: This is the best thing Chuck Berry ever did.
	👻 3:30pm rrg: One of the best things about Chuck Berry is that he's still alive. We can't all say that.
	3:31pm lou: The Muldaurs do a nice version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OnXXM-IhM8
	3:31pm Droll: What's this "Atrocious Music"? Never heard of it before, who's been holding out on me?! I NEED the music that doesn't even qualify as Incorrect Music, whatever it's called, I NEED it.
	3:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'JoJo Gunne' by Chuck is impressively ProtoRap - you may be right though...
	3:34pm ADL: Wow, good to remind myself of "Havana Moon" whenever "My Ding-A-Ling" crosses my mind.
	👻 3:34pm Anthony Blanche: "P-p-please take me to Charles's unhealthy pick-tyures!"
	👻 3:35pm rrg: Hey, My Ding-A-Ling is good too.
	3:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'All the best people are dead.' - Tim Leary when terminal.
	3:36pm Mike Sin: Enjoying the show, Irwin. I feel like I never heard "Forever Changes" correctly until one of the CD issues in the '90s or so. A lot of depth and quite dynamic. So many US vinyl versions of that LP up until that time sounded dull and flat -- I guess it was tough to master because of the range and length.
	3:37pm ADL: I'm sure it is, RRG.
	👻 3:37pm G: i'll leave talking about my ding a ling to a certain once and future ex politician
	3:37pm Caryn: Man, today has just been full of interesting and bizarre news and discoveries: "Atrocious Music", Donald Roller Wilson, the fabulous slowed-down version of "Jolene", the astronaut who almost drowned on his spacewalk...
	3:38pm Jan: Mighty Fine Program today! Likin Melody's Echo Chamber
	3:39pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: Chuck Berry factoid according to wikipedia: In the late 1980s, Berry bought a restaurant in Wentzville, Missouri,and in 1990 he was sued by several women who claimed that he had installed a video camera in the ladies' bathroom. Berry claimed that he had the camera installed to catch red-handed a worker who was suspected of stealing from the restaurant. Though his guilt was never proven in court, Berry opted for a class action settlement with 59 women. It cost Berry over $1.2 million plus legal fees.Reportedly, a police raid on his house did find videotapes of women using the restroom, and one of the women was a minor.
	👻 3:39pm rrg: The first time I heard "My Ding-A-Ling" was at a Chuck Berry concert in about 1970. A real crowd-pleaser, that one. I had forgotten that I've seen Chuck Berry live. I'm so old that I forget having seen legends in their own time.
	👻 3:41pm rrg: I've heard the slowed-down version of "Jolene", and I'm a real fan of messing-around-with-audio, but I honestly don't get what all the fuss is. I love the original full-speed version (and will play it again as soon as this Irwin thing is done for the day) and I think it's fine the way it is.
	👻 3:42pm G: @Caryn: Scand. note -- saw Andrew Zimmern the other day on a repeat sampling Surströmming on the roof of the Swedish Embassy in DC
	👻 3:42pm rrg: But what's all this about an almost-drowned astronaut? You're not going to make me go to the Internet, are you?
	3:43pm ADL: It's amazing, RRG, that in 1970 Chuck Berry was already transitioning (transitioned?) to nostalgia act (though I'm sure he was great live). Kind of crazy how he really got there first with so much.
	3:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's a great line rrg (legends in time). - Yes, the Artist (Berry) who most archetypally represents the form of Rock'n'Roll has a few idiosyncracies. & Pete Townshend who helped invent the 6' amplifier & wrote 'MyGeneration' & smashed guitars was sexually abused as a child. - Any questions - ??
	3:44pm tonyb: i dig chuck's pronunciation of "horizon"...
	3:45pm MD: First show in Two years!!! LANCASTER COUNTY PRISON....LIVE AT THE BOHEMIAN BEER GARDEN IN ASTORIA QUEENS!! THE ORIGINAL AND OLDEST BEER GARDEN! SATURDAY AUGUST 24TH... SHOW STARTS AT 8PM... www.lancastercountyprison.com look us up on Facebook
	👻 3:46pm G: what's your parole date? :p
	👻 3:46pm rrg: Was that an advertisement? I'm just askin'.
	3:46pm Mike East: Joe Frank? Dark? Well this I have to hear. :)
	3:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - say 'Hi' to Chuck.
	3:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - in prison I mean...
	👻 3:48pm G: Chuck's 87 in a month or two. Appreciate him while you have him.
	3:50pm Caryn: @rrg: I think the "Jolene" is just lovely in how it doesn't sound slowed down. I think part of the credit has to go to Dolly for enunciating the words the way she does. The astronaut story, though? Here ya go, wouldn't want to have you go on the internet: www.universetoday.com...
	3:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I always think of Lennon on the Mike Douglas Show making the point that Chuck Berry was a fantastic poet & songwriter (implication: not just the originator of thee riff) - who influenced him & Dylan & everybody. Absolutely.
	3:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - always interested in hearing more from / learning about Peter Ivers.
	👻 3:53pm rrg: It's certainly interesting (such things usually are) though I'm not sure it still sounds like Dolly. The opening guitar intro (it's a guitar, right?) is so familiar to me that I recognized it as "Jolene" before I was told what I was listening to.
	👻 3:54pm rrg: And thanks for the astronaut link.
	3:54pm glenn: (chuck stole that riff from t bone walker)
	3:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lennon: 'If you needed another name for Rock'n'Roll, you could call it ChuckBerry.' - & you aren't gonna say anything better than Lennon.... - Oh yeah - that's the interesting thing about ChuckBerry - how he brought together those influences - Swing, Country...'New' looks different every time you change your lense's resolution...B.B. King credits T-BoneWalker big too...
	3:58pm Sean D. Daily: Can I say, "Zoroaster, I was evil?"
	3:59pm A: Sho makes me legall. Could do citizens arrest with ur connections
	3:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Manicheanism to Mosh to
	👻 3:59pm G: I suppose this is another one of those sweetness and light tales :)
	4:00pm Sean D. Daily: Me, I'm waiting for Mr. Goodbar.
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Joe wiki : Born August 19, 1938 (age 75 [now]) Strasbourg, France
	👻 4:01pm G: Clef Garry Clef Bass
	4:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Manichaeism : en.wikipedia.org... - I spell purty one day...
	4:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - he's not gonna close this sale... ...I can certainly relate to a job where everyone's a drag except for one or a few you hope to see...
	👻 4:06pm G: SPOILER ALERT: This is not going to go well.
	4:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - his delivery - definitive.
	4:10pm Caryn: @rrg: I don't think it really sounds like Dolly anymore, but it sounds like a cover of the song, not a slowed-down version, which is rare for slowed-down tracks. Whenever that happens, I'm quite thrilled.
	👻 4:14pm rrg: @Caryn: you know, you're right, it's a fine thing.
	👻 4:22pm G: He felt absence was very present to him.
	4:23pm glenn: speaking of john lennon - arts.nationalpost.com...
	4:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I read the News today - ohboy...
	4:26pm Sean D. Daily: I'm waiting for Godot.
	4:26pm Caryn: Oh lord, speaking of the astronaut, apparently the Alan Parsons Project has dedicated a song to him during a concert and beamed it to the ISS. Honestly? For some reason I had remained ignorant that the APP was still going.
	4:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - okay - he closed the sale, but got it home & found it meaningless...
	👻 4:27pm rrg: Me too.
	👻 4:29pm G: The APP is now an app automatically writing albums via logarithm. It doesn't need any human assistance to keep going.
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the production on these Tom Waits - or is it Arrangement - these sounds...
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the Eye in the Sky...
	4:30pm Carmichael: Yes, APP is still going, and still going strong. I don't know why he hasn't even been sniffed at by the R&R Hall of Fame committee. For his producing and engineering, if nothing else.
	4:30pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin. An excellent choice to follow Mr. Frank too.
	4:31pm still b/p: After listening to that on a trip over the weekend, the sound and style of Tom's questioning in it was adapted several times to what we encountered on the road.
	4:33pm Droll: Carm, I know what keeps AP out of the RRHoFaM. In a word: Prog. The RRHoFaM dismisses prog, it's in the bylaws.
	4:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the way Joe articulated the nature of Romance so convincingly even in this jaded age - & then totally trashes it.
	4:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - it's a dumbass popularity contest - they don't even know what producing and engineering is.
	4:40pm Carmichael: That's as good an explanation as any, RR63.
	4:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Walton wiki : en.wikipedia.org...
	4:43pm Matthyou Springwater: Cooool Jazz Message for this steamin' day... Hi Irwin and Irwinites!
	4:44pm Caryn: My relationship to all awards is complicated: whenever someone I like wins one, I'm thrilled about the recognition and proof of the awesomeness of the person or group I admire. Then, whenever someone is ignored or nominated but beaten by someone I view as less worthy, the awards are dumb and not proof of anything. I'm a hypocrite, but I'm aware of it, so I feel less bad.
	4:44pm Matthyou Springwater: @Carm: G has also pointed out that if you ever pissed off Jann Wenner or Ahmet Ertegun, you're probably on their shitlist for life.
	4:45pm Carmichael: In this case, he pissed off Clive Davis. That'd probably be enough.
	4:46pm Matthyou Springwater: The Big Clivehuna--yep, that's big!
	4:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trio workin' out this Monk & taking it to a beautiful place...
	👻 4:48pm G: the vacuum cleaner is way far back in the mix
	4:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they stumble on some of undeniable Merit - because we the people have chosen it & made it huge & they don't want to be embarrassed. Does anybody consider whether or not someone is the RRHoF before digging it? ...A friend of mine was worried she was too old to be in a band & people wouldn't let her - I said, 'Since when is Rock'n'Roll about asking for permission - ?!?'...
	4:52pm Droll: Awards in the music business would make more sense if musicians wrote/recorded music specifically to win awards in the way some books, movies and TV shows are made not for commercial potential, but for the prestige. In the grand scheme of things, the RRHF is totally legit compared the the Billboard Circle-Jerk awards.
	4:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - like, if they get inducted, maybe sales go up w/ yuppies for a week?
	4:54pm Carmichael: No, you get to jam at the R&R HoF concert with all the fellow band members you now hate.
	4:55pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: Jazzerclean Vol. 1, with Irwin Chusid!
	4:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - well - that's worth seeing.
	👻 4:57pm G: The opening lyric of the first post-Atlantic "Union" album by Yes is something like: Begone you ever piercing power play machine Cutting our musical solidarity... For I am out of thee, with a vengeance. I imagine Ahmed's response is: You are out of the RRHOF, with a vengeance, smartasses.
	4:57pm Matthyou Springwater: 80s psych?
	4:57pm Carmichael: Hey, pre/post/during Fairport Convention!
	4:58pm glenn: a merry go round song. by emmitt rhodes.
	4:58pm Carmichael: "I am a clock, I am a camera ..."
	4:59pm Droll: G, Joni made it into the RRHF despite "Free Man in Paris". That was about David Geffen!
	5:00pm northguineahills: Hello Everybody!
	👻 5:00pm rrg: Emitt Rhodes? Holy cow. Good old Irwin.
	5:00pm Carmichael: I just noticed Iain Matthews' name, and Fairport covered it a long time ago.
	👻 5:00pm G: Ahmet holds a longer grudge than Geffen???
	5:01pm Matthyou Springwater: Hey NGH!
	5:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I can see the value of a Museum were it an actual resource center & commemoration - but the focus is skewed from that. What is the model - Sports?
	5:02pm Matthyou Springwater: I would imagine so G, esp. since Ahmet is older, longer and now DEAD but he still holds more sway than Geffen does (Neil Young has been admitted at least twice).
	5:03pm northguineahills: Been in meetings all day and yesterday, been missing my WFMU.
	5:04pm Matthyou Springwater: Uggggh...fuckin' cane Sandy! Yours and Ken's online uncensored shows were the only good things about that.
	5:04pm Sean D. Daily: NOT THE NEVER-BEFORENESS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
	5:05pm Mike East: The Sandy one year anniversary for me will be obscured by my daughter's first birthday.
	5:05pm glenn: there's some good stuff on the 1st fairport album.
	👻 5:05pm rrg: Don't get me started. I never got to hear that Sandy show of Irwin's and I never will because IT WASN'T RECORDED.
	5:06pm Caryn: I agree wholeheartedly with Matthyou. Now if only Ken would've archived his uncensored Sandy shows...
	👻 5:06pm rrg: And I was kinda too busy at the time to listen. And also powerless.
	5:07pm Jan: Irwin- You have me looking back to that Wednesday after Sandy. I had to leave my abode and missed your show that day. It wasn't archived was it. I needed you that day to make sense of it, but alas I was left to other devices besides the radio or internet. Was the show taped?
	5:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Are the MC5 in the RRHoF? The New York Dolls? The Nuggets box set? Okay - they got Patti Smith...
	5:08pm Matthyou Springwater: @Caryn: I wonder if anyone did record it... Also, it's been a long day. I didn't even notice I still had my Hearty White moniker up from yesterday. Oh well, I'll just leave it up the rest of this show, start what I finished, etc etc...
	5:09pm glenn: ooh! ooh! magazine! john mcgeoch IS THE GREATEST.
	5:09pm glenn: or was, technically.
	5:09pm Mike East: Its effing hot in here!! Can someone please come through with a $10,000 backline order so my boss can stop laying people off and I can turn the goddamn air on?
	5:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: King Crimson? Hawkwind? - Whose Hall is this thing - ?! I suppose you answered that...
	5:10pm Irwin: The Sandy show -- which included lots of BLUE material -- was not archived, tho the playlist was. www.wfmu.org...
	5:10pm glenn: i'll be there in 5, mike.
	5:13pm Parq: Good comment pieces in the Good Grey Lady Online from Schlessinger and Collingwood, respectively, on their approaches to songwriting.
	👻 5:13pm rrg: I still say you should recreate that show. You have the playlist, you have the memories, you have the Internet.
	5:14pm Jan: As it was not archived, you must do your best to re-enact the program as you special commemorative edition. No doubt the listenership will swell for such a program. Specially if it is promoted on the station for the week before.
	5:14pm Caryn: @Matthyou: I seem to remember someone saying they were recording the show at home, so supposedly there are at least partial records of those shows somewhere. Can't remember who it was, though.
	5:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Thx Parq. This I want to know.
	5:15pm Mike East: Thanks, glenn. Just call in with a credit card if you can. We really appreciate it. :) I'll reserve the Steinway and all our B3's for you.
	5:15pm steve: lol
	5:16pm glenn: thanks. ummmm. i don't play piano.
	5:16pm Parq: Irwin, some of us still remember when you first introduced Jandek to FMU listeners. The wonder of it all, eh?
	👻 5:16pm rrg: Track that person down, Caryn. Who said this and when was it said? Is it on a playlist comment thread somewhere?
	5:18pm lou: Isn't this the guy arrested for having ricin? Very outsider move!
	5:18pm Matthyou Springwater: Rob Alberg needs to put another album out. Does he have a Bandcamp??...
	5:18pm Laura L: Alberg is still single and maybe still in the slammer for making ricin, isn't he.
	5:18pm Irwin: Same guy. Famous!
	👻 5:19pm G: I can't believe no one snapped up this gem of a man. :)
	5:19pm Matthyou Springwater: @Caryn: I'll dig through the playlists later and see who that might have been--I relish looking through our playlists for primary sources!
	5:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - single note samba...
	5:19pm steve: oy, poor Robert
	5:20pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: If he's still in the joint, he'll get the attention of prison groupies at least. Jail has that effect on men--even Milhouse's Dad! :) @RRN63: Good album title.
	5:22pm Caryn: @rrg & Matthyou: yep, it was mentioned on a playlist, but I can't remember if someone said it as the shows were going on or during a later show when we were lamenting the lack of recordings.
	5:22pm Matthyou Springwater: @Irwin: Speaking of which..got your old "Incorrect and Proud" from the Prize Warehouse this year! It's excellent, lived up to my hype! I especially like Rockin' With Barbara's "I Like To". It sounds familiar, did you ever use that melody as bed music?
	5:23pm lou: http://seattletimes.com/html/eastsidenews/2002080339_ricin03m.html
	👻 5:23pm rrg: That's in the Prize Warehouse? Maybe I can get it next year.
	5:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Matt: Thx but 'OneNoteSamba' is a Jazz Standard...
	5:24pm Mike East: ok, glenn. Send me your rider...please leave off the catering/hotels/and transport. That's somebody else's job. ;)
	5:25pm Matthyou Springwater: @rrg: Anything that's still on the list you can order! But you should hurry, it's from 2002 so there might not be many left.
	5:26pm Matthyou Springwater: Just like Antonio Carlos Jobim, stealing that idea just a half-century before we could use it. But, he's Antonio Carlos Jobim, so I can't stay mad at him.
	👻 5:28pm rrg: You can "order" from the Prize Warehouse at any time? Like it was amazon.com, you mean?
	5:28pm Matthyou Springwater: Wooooooo! This is a great Lane & Luis one!! I've said before that if there's any justice, this should be the #1 mainstream pop song in the US.
	5:28pm Droll: Mike, Don't you work at SIR? Maybe you could get Adrian Belew to reimburse SIR for whatever he's doing to their amp -- he's clearly not using it according to the manufacturer's specifications: 24.media.tumblr.com...
	5:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why can't the Stones make records like this 'SuckIt' for themselves...sigh - if i ruled the world...
	5:29pm Denise in DC: I have Incorrect and Proud! It's one of my prize CDs. Especially "Diary of an Unborn Child." I played it at a Xmas party once and literally had someone rolling on the floor laughing with tears running down her face.
	5:29pm Matthyou Springwater: @rrg: I don't think so...I meant order it when Marathontime rolls around. But check out "the consumer marketplace at WFMU's Crapola Central"--some Warehouse items are actually available at FMU's online store year-round.
	5:30pm rsj: perfectly incorrect and red-state like
	5:30pm lou: Apparently Alberg is out, has a 2nd cd from 2011 and is on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robert.alberg.9 http://lighthouse7.tripod.com/ABOUTRMA.HTML
	5:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ..doesn't AdrianBelew help define 'specifications' ? - Is that KimGordan in that phot w/ him? - Oh yes - true - let's all have a yuck about the mentally ill...he doesn't know where we are does he?...
	👻 5:32pm rrg: Hey, I was just there myself.
	5:33pm Denise in DC: Otis has been wed! That's lovely!
	5:33pm Matthyou Springwater: @Denise: That guy should have done a very late night Christian puppet show--stoners wouldn't watch anything else! I think "Diary" is avail for download at the 365 Days Project.
	5:34pm Mike East: @Droll - no, SIR is our competition...at the moment, I think they may be winning. don't tell them that, though.
	👻 5:34pm rrg: It's not ALL beautiful. As you discovered.
	5:34pm glenn: did you have a montreal bagel?
	5:35pm Matthyou Springwater: "Grim Montreal"...is that anything like "Ruined Upsala"? www.flickr.com...
	👻 5:35pm rrg: Well, yes. West Island, actually (Bagel de l'Ouest).
	5:35pm Laura L: Let's ask Otis to put together a GrimMontreal tune for us one day.
	👻 5:35pm rrg: And Cote-St-Luc BBQ.
	5:36pm Matthyou Springwater: Muriel's Treasure! De orizhinal! @glenn: Never been there, but I've long heard that they rival NYC's. Besides poutine it's one of the first things I'd try.
	👻 5:36pm Alison Porchnik: I had a 2-day old Montreal bagel for breakfast this morning. It was pretty good.
	👻 5:36pm rrg: And French Fries with gravy.
	👻 5:37pm rrg: And afternoon tea at the Queen E.
	👻 5:37pm rrg: Not all at the same time, though.
	5:38pm Sean D. Daily: "Smell hater!" "TASTE FASCIST!"
	👻 5:39pm rrg: Yes, I've heard from Rebecca that there's a place in Brooklyn that gets a shipment of bagels from Montréal every Saturday morning. Some guy leaves there at midnight with a car full of bagels and drives to Brooklyn. That could just be an urban legend, though.
	5:39pm Skippy: Daddy! Where have you been?
	5:39pm Matthyou Springwater: @AP: I watched "Annie Hall" recently, and discovered that Carol Kane's character from that was in the credits as "Alison Portchnik"! Never knew of that connection before! :)
	5:40pm Irwin: "Fascist" = anyone who disagrees with you.
	5:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: : / : D
	👻 5:40pm rrg: There is not, or need not be, any rivalry. They're different things, both worth our attention. We need not choose.
	5:40pm Skippy: I disagree
	👻 5:41pm G: It has been harder to get real boiled bagels in recent years. Caveat bagel emptor.
	5:41pm Droll: I knew smelly tongues looked just as they felt, but I had no idea they were also fascists.
	5:41pm Matthyou Springwater: I'm sure Sexton would like the smell of ichthammol ointment then; the most putrid petrol-based ointment I've found thus far.
	👻 5:41pm G: I am woman, see me travel
	👻 5:42pm rrg: Wait, you're not saying that "Allison Porchnik" is a pseudonym, are you? Damn, you can't trust anyone. All the rest of us are using our real names, AP.
	5:42pm Matthyou Springwater: Hmm, Helen Reddy was a Cilla Black vocal-and-brass type at some point? Should've stayed with this style.
	5:42pm Denise in DC: I recognized Helen Reddy's voice immediately. Should I be worried?
	5:43pm Denise in DC: Also, the WFMU website refuses to let me log in.
	👻 5:43pm Alison Porchnik: @Matthyou The original is spelled (in the credits) with two Ls but I had to spell it with one for reasons I don't remember. @RRG - it is true, you're referring to Mile End (never been). I believe there is also another establishment that imports the raw materials to the city and is making them here.
	5:43pm Matthyou Springwater: Yeah, I know rrg! It's why I once greeted you as "errrgg".
	👻 5:43pm G: Porchnik is one of the commonest names in the NY/NJ area.
	5:43pm glenn: there's two bakeries. fairmount and st. viateur. most people, west island included, sell fairmount.
	👻 5:44pm rrg: We don't believe you. What have you done with the REAL Denise?
	👻 5:45pm rrg: They bake them themselves at the place to which I was referring (Bagel de l'Ouest on Sources Rd. in Roxboro).
	5:46pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: I used to think a Porchnik family had a racket on all the borscht counters in NY, but I discovered that they were all different operators with the same last name.
	👻 5:46pm rrg: There are a lot more than two bagel bakeries on the island of Montreal, I would contend.
	5:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...you'd think being a porch-nik would be primarily a Southern preoccupation...
	5:48pm glenn: huh. i stand (or sit) corrected.
	👻 5:48pm rrg: AP, if there is a place in New York (or "even" Brooklyn) that's baking its own Montreal-style bagels, I would love to know where it is.
	👻 5:48pm G: O.J. redux.
	5:49pm glenn: really, there aren't.
	👻 5:49pm rrg: P&OJ
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - it's a porch - go ahead & swing corrected...
	5:50pm Denise in DC: OMFG. I love this. ^meaningful comment that adds substance to the discussion
	5:50pm Parq: It's not a Porch, it's a Ferrari. (Punchline of old joke).
	5:51pm Droll: Montreal-style bagels? Like the ones at Tim Horton's? Those are called doughnuts here in the states. Montreal isn't even the Great White North, Seattle is further north than Montreal.
	5:51pm Matthyou Springwater: DeFeudis horribly mistuned/mistimed "Desperado" is a true treasure. Another artist deserving his own Anthology box set.
	👻 5:53pm rrg: Lumineers cover! Love the voices of these girls.
	5:53pm glenn: the google machine says mile end deli. www.mileenddeli.com...
	5:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...has anyone used AutoTune to detune anything for 'authenticity' yet?...
	5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: rrg: Yup.
	5:55pm glenn: maybe, but montreal's about 50 degrees colder in the winter.
	5:56pm Denise in DC: Holy shit. A song for Phil Milstein! I used to work with him in a typesetting shop in Cambridge.
	👻 5:56pm rrg: Ah, "Mlle End" is a Mtl neighborhood so I was confused. It's also the name of this Brooklyn deli. But it says right there that someone drives bagels to Brooklyn weekly from St-Viateur Bagel in Montreal, doesn't it?
	5:56pm Andrew Waterloo: The best bagel I've had in awhile was a massive thing that came from Lindsay Ontario.
	5:56pm Matthyou Springwater: P&OJ as the musical guest on SNL, David Rees hosting. Not gonna happen in this universe, but that's an ideal selection I would make were it in my power.
	5:56pm Droll: Thanks Irwin, "You know weird stuff in a corner of the basement of the world".
	👻 5:58pm rrg: What, we're done? But I'm not finished rambling yet. Except I guess I am. Night, all. Thanks for another fun show, Mr. Irwin. À bientôt.
	5:58pm Matthyou Springwater: Thanks Irwin, for the tunes great, not-so-great, and the atrocious ones too! Have a great day everyone!
	5:58pm glenn: lindsay is my favourite place that shares the name of an ex girlfriend.
	5:59pm glenn: well, that and mindemoya.
	6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I didn't ☆ five trax. - Thx for the rest though!...
	11:54am kat330: @Alison Porchnik @3:01pm : I sense her slight stoop is from shouldering the weight of the world.

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August 21, 2013: Toxic and Proud

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Lee Morgan	Yes I Can, No You Can't (edit)	The Gigolo	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Patrick Watson	Beijing "Beijing" by "Patrick Watson"	Wooden Arms	0:03:19 (Pop-up)
Tim Buckley	Sally Go 'Round the Roses	Sefronia	0:07:44 (Pop-up)
The Poems	No Sign of Life "No Sign of Life" by "The Poems"	Young America	0:11:13 (Pop-up)
The Passionate & Objective Jokerfan	Goatman Style	Songs, Singers, Goats, Writers, Critics ... All Sorts of Stuff!	0:13:59 (Pop-up)
Rick Rondone	Ballad of a Continental Cowboy	Gotta Gypsy's Heart	0:15:58 (Pop-up)

Angil & the Hiddentracks	I Need an Enemy	Angil & the Fucking Hiddentracks (EP)	0:24:34 (Pop-up)
Chuck Berry	Havana Moon "Havana Moon" by "Chuck Berry"	Johnny Be Goode	0:28:20 (Pop-up)
Love	Maybe the People Would Be the Times or Between Clark and Hilldale	Forever Changes	0:31:10 (Pop-up)
Melody's Echo Chamber	Be Proud of Your Kids	Melody's Echo Chamber	0:34:31 (Pop-up)
Crown the Invisible	The Spaniard Who Blighted My Life	Revitalize Music Contest	0:38:15 (Pop-up)

Peter Ivers Band with Yolande Bavan	Lord God Love	The Knight of the Blue Communion	0:46:31 (Pop-up)
Secret Twins	Poor Replacements "Poor Replacements" by "Secret Twins"	Ill Fit	0:50:53 (Pop-up)
Darcy Clay	Jesus I Was Evil "Jesus I Was Evil" by "Darcy Clay"	Radio Nyles Vol. 1	0:53:27 (Pop-up)

Tom Waits	What's He Building? "What's He Building?" by "Tom Waits"	Mule Variations	1:26:14 (Pop-up)

Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers	Shaky Jake (comp. Cedar Walton, R.I.P.)	Buhaina's Delight	1:32:44 (Pop-up)
Cedar Walton with David Williams and Billy Higgins	Off Minor	The Trio, Vol. 2	1:38:55 (Pop-up)
Lee Morgan (Cedar Walton, piano)	The Sixth Sense	The Sixth Sense	1:48:07 (Pop-up)
Nick Vernier Band (ft. Iain Matthews and Emitt Rhodes)	Time Will Show the Wiser	Sessions	1:55:04 (Pop-up)

Cliff and Ivy	Radiant "Radiant" by "Cliff and Ivy"	Equilux	2:04:48 (Pop-up)
Magazine	Rhythm of Cruelty "Rhythm of Cruelty" by "Magazine"	Secondhand Daylight	2:07:31 (Pop-up)
Fountains of Wayne	Mexican Wine "Mexican Wine" by "Fountains of Wayne"	Welcome Interstate Managers	2:10:40 (Pop-up)
The Passionate & Objective Jokerfan	Seth Tisue, That Jandek Site You Made is Really Great, Man!	Songs, Singers, Goats, Writers, Critics ... All Sorts of Stuff!	2:14:15 (Pop-up)
Robert Alberg	I've Been Single All My Life	Robert Alberg	2:15:51 (Pop-up)
Turn Me On Dead Man	Killer Sound Waves from Space	God Bless the Electric Freak	2:19:28 (Pop-up)
Dirty Louie	Suck It for the U.S.A.	Suck It for the U.S.A.	2:26:23 (Pop-up)

Lord Kitchener	Muriel and de Bug "Muriel and de Bug" by "Lord Kitchener"	Muriel's Treasure 2006 Vintage Calypso From Vinyl premium CD	2:33:56 (Pop-up)
Sexton Ming	The Smell Haters Meet the Taste Fascists	Crumb Girl	2:36:32 (Pop-up)
Helen Reddy	One Way Ticket "One Way Ticket" by "Helen Reddy"	Lost Jukebox Volume Vol. 24	2:39:52 (Pop-up)
Black Mountain	Bastards of Light "Bastards of Light" by "Black Mountain"	Bastards of Light (EP)	2:42:41 (Pop-up)
The Passionate & Objective Jokerfan	Richie Unterberger, You Write Good Music Articles	Songs, Singers, Goats, Writers, Critics ... All Sorts of Stuff!	2:47:49 (Pop-up)
Ken DeFeudis	Power of Love "Power of Love" by "Ken DeFeudis"	The Very Best of Ken DeFeudis, Vol. 2	2:49:14 (Pop-up)
The Stella Sisters (Lennon & Maisy)	Ho Hey	The Music of Nashville (OST)	2:52:04 (Pop-up)
The Passionate & Objective Jokerfan	Phil X. Milstein, You Know About the Secret Underground Weird Stuff		2:53:56 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	👻 3:01pm rrg: Howdy do.
	3:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Foist !
	👻 3:01pm Alison Porchnik: She has bad posture.
	3:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: D'oh!
	👻 3:02pm rrg: There are a lot of cat pictures on the Internet. Even here.
	👻 3:03pm G: Edit is a hell of a sideplayer.
	👻 3:04pm G: The cat is about to eat a bug. Seen it a million times.
	3:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I thot it was a Mark Ryden - but the tag says D_R_Wilson - which is not yeilding this sorta Art w/ a quick&easy Search...
	3:05pm Irwin: Jeez, RRN63, click on the damned art.
	3:05pm still b/p: No one can eat a bug until the queen eats a bug.
	👻 3:06pm rrg: I'm on day 4 of a 5-day azithromycin blister pack and I'm doing much better, thanks.
	3:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I did - I get D_R_Wilson - this is Ryden : media-cache-ec2.pinimg.com...
	3:08pm Laura L: Clicked link but no time to go to the funny farm just now--maybe later.
	3:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Oh - LeftClick - like - 'Click'...
	3:09pm Irwin: LL: Please click on the link. I get 35% of all kitty art sales on the interwebs.
	3:10pm Sean D. Daily: Sorry I'm late to the party.
	👻 3:10pm G: click for your life dammit. it's the interwebb's newest invention yall
	👻 3:11pm rrg: "Introduction by Carrie Fisher." Well, I'll have to read that. But later. LL and I will read it later.
	3:12pm Sean D. Daily: Come for the kitty art. Stay for the slow-motion Matrix olives.
	3:13pm Laura L: Well, whyn't you say so earlier! I hope the interwebs won't break when everybody gets on the interwebs and buys kitty art tonight! Is there enough bandwidth?
	3:14pm Fever: I don't even know what I'm listening to, but my love recommend it, so hi...
	3:15pm still b/p: On the site's Introduction by Carrie Fisher page, I like the maniacally grinning chimp with the asparagus scepter, and I think The Maniacally Grinning Chimp With the Asparagus Scepter is one of the sequels to The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.
	👻 3:15pm rrg: All right, I would like more information about this Passionate and Objective Jokerman.
	👻 3:16pm rrg: Also a good name for a band.
	👻 3:16pm G: These are the O.J. tracks we ran out of time on last week. Settle in.
	3:17pm Droll: How is a Goatman different from a minotaur? Is this one of those 51% things?
	👻 3:17pm rrg: JokerFAN. Not Jokerman. I can never fix that typo. Never. I don't have the power.
	3:17pm Caryn: So, apparently the cat is Kathleen, who is visited by the Virgin Mary in the guise of a housefly. Hmm, this is clearly WFMU-appropriate art.
	👻 3:18pm G: I have an alternate rhyme word for Italy.
	3:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - & my choice of Ryden Link gets better...
	👻 3:18pm rrg: From a blog called "the first song for your mix tape", concerning Mr. Jokerfan: "It was sometime last year that I stumbled upon this less than conventional musician..."
	3:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'wittily' - ?? If that was the singer's rhyme - I'll quittily...
	3:21pm Laura L: So play it all today, Irwin!
	3:22pm Droll: Sadly, there are only about a dozen Incorrect Music archives, most of IM predates the archive. wfmu.org... We want IM airchecks and bootlegs!
	👻 3:22pm rrg: Did you have to pay for these new Jokerfan songs, Irwin? "Commission" kind of implies that you did.
	👻 3:23pm Alison Porchnik: Don't forget Marian McPartland, Irwin.
	👻 3:23pm rrg: So say we all. Droll and me, anyway.
	👻 3:24pm G: i'll throw in on that demand.
	👻 3:26pm G: extremely polite and deferential request. sorry :p
	3:26pm Droll: I used to be on the Cat-Free Internet, but there's tons of cats in costumes on it! It's not worth the extra fees, their cat box filtering technology isn't worth the litter it's made from.
	👻 3:27pm rrg: There were cassette premiums of Incorrect Music in the past (or at least of "Atrocious Music", its predecessor--or maybe calling it a predecessor is an incorrect presumption). I wonder if any of those still exist.
	👻 3:28pm rrg: You can't say the name of this album on the air. Even though this is fucking America!
	👻 3:30pm Alison Porchnik: This is the best thing Chuck Berry ever did.
	👻 3:30pm rrg: One of the best things about Chuck Berry is that he's still alive. We can't all say that.
	3:31pm lou: The Muldaurs do a nice version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OnXXM-IhM8
	3:31pm Droll: What's this "Atrocious Music"? Never heard of it before, who's been holding out on me?! I NEED the music that doesn't even qualify as Incorrect Music, whatever it's called, I NEED it.
	3:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'JoJo Gunne' by Chuck is impressively ProtoRap - you may be right though...
	3:34pm ADL: Wow, good to remind myself of "Havana Moon" whenever "My Ding-A-Ling" crosses my mind.
	👻 3:34pm Anthony Blanche: "P-p-please take me to Charles's unhealthy pick-tyures!"
	👻 3:35pm rrg: Hey, My Ding-A-Ling is good too.
	3:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'All the best people are dead.' - Tim Leary when terminal.
	3:36pm Mike Sin: Enjoying the show, Irwin. I feel like I never heard "Forever Changes" correctly until one of the CD issues in the '90s or so. A lot of depth and quite dynamic. So many US vinyl versions of that LP up until that time sounded dull and flat -- I guess it was tough to master because of the range and length.
	3:37pm ADL: I'm sure it is, RRG.
	👻 3:37pm G: i'll leave talking about my ding a ling to a certain once and future ex politician
	3:37pm Caryn: Man, today has just been full of interesting and bizarre news and discoveries: "Atrocious Music", Donald Roller Wilson, the fabulous slowed-down version of "Jolene", the astronaut who almost drowned on his spacewalk...
	3:38pm Jan: Mighty Fine Program today! Likin Melody's Echo Chamber
	3:39pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: Chuck Berry factoid according to wikipedia: In the late 1980s, Berry bought a restaurant in Wentzville, Missouri,and in 1990 he was sued by several women who claimed that he had installed a video camera in the ladies' bathroom. Berry claimed that he had the camera installed to catch red-handed a worker who was suspected of stealing from the restaurant. Though his guilt was never proven in court, Berry opted for a class action settlement with 59 women. It cost Berry over $1.2 million plus legal fees.Reportedly, a police raid on his house did find videotapes of women using the restroom, and one of the women was a minor.
	👻 3:39pm rrg: The first time I heard "My Ding-A-Ling" was at a Chuck Berry concert in about 1970. A real crowd-pleaser, that one. I had forgotten that I've seen Chuck Berry live. I'm so old that I forget having seen legends in their own time.
	👻 3:41pm rrg: I've heard the slowed-down version of "Jolene", and I'm a real fan of messing-around-with-audio, but I honestly don't get what all the fuss is. I love the original full-speed version (and will play it again as soon as this Irwin thing is done for the day) and I think it's fine the way it is.
	👻 3:42pm G: @Caryn: Scand. note -- saw Andrew Zimmern the other day on a repeat sampling Surströmming on the roof of the Swedish Embassy in DC
	👻 3:42pm rrg: But what's all this about an almost-drowned astronaut? You're not going to make me go to the Internet, are you?
	3:43pm ADL: It's amazing, RRG, that in 1970 Chuck Berry was already transitioning (transitioned?) to nostalgia act (though I'm sure he was great live). Kind of crazy how he really got there first with so much.
	3:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's a great line rrg (legends in time). - Yes, the Artist (Berry) who most archetypally represents the form of Rock'n'Roll has a few idiosyncracies. & Pete Townshend who helped invent the 6' amplifier & wrote 'MyGeneration' & smashed guitars was sexually abused as a child. - Any questions - ??
	3:44pm tonyb: i dig chuck's pronunciation of "horizon"...
	3:45pm MD: First show in Two years!!! LANCASTER COUNTY PRISON....LIVE AT THE BOHEMIAN BEER GARDEN IN ASTORIA QUEENS!! THE ORIGINAL AND OLDEST BEER GARDEN! SATURDAY AUGUST 24TH... SHOW STARTS AT 8PM... www.lancastercountyprison.com look us up on Facebook
	👻 3:46pm G: what's your parole date? :p
	👻 3:46pm rrg: Was that an advertisement? I'm just askin'.
	3:46pm Mike East: Joe Frank? Dark? Well this I have to hear. :)
	3:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - say 'Hi' to Chuck.
	3:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - in prison I mean...
	👻 3:48pm G: Chuck's 87 in a month or two. Appreciate him while you have him.
	3:50pm Caryn: @rrg: I think the "Jolene" is just lovely in how it doesn't sound slowed down. I think part of the credit has to go to Dolly for enunciating the words the way she does. The astronaut story, though? Here ya go, wouldn't want to have you go on the internet: www.universetoday.com...
	3:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I always think of Lennon on the Mike Douglas Show making the point that Chuck Berry was a fantastic poet & songwriter (implication: not just the originator of thee riff) - who influenced him & Dylan & everybody. Absolutely.
	3:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - always interested in hearing more from / learning about Peter Ivers.
	👻 3:53pm rrg: It's certainly interesting (such things usually are) though I'm not sure it still sounds like Dolly. The opening guitar intro (it's a guitar, right?) is so familiar to me that I recognized it as "Jolene" before I was told what I was listening to.
	👻 3:54pm rrg: And thanks for the astronaut link.
	3:54pm glenn: (chuck stole that riff from t bone walker)
	3:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lennon: 'If you needed another name for Rock'n'Roll, you could call it ChuckBerry.' - & you aren't gonna say anything better than Lennon.... - Oh yeah - that's the interesting thing about ChuckBerry - how he brought together those influences - Swing, Country...'New' looks different every time you change your lense's resolution...B.B. King credits T-BoneWalker big too...
	3:58pm Sean D. Daily: Can I say, "Zoroaster, I was evil?"
	3:59pm A: Sho makes me legall. Could do citizens arrest with ur connections
	3:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Manicheanism to Mosh to
	👻 3:59pm G: I suppose this is another one of those sweetness and light tales :)
	4:00pm Sean D. Daily: Me, I'm waiting for Mr. Goodbar.
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Joe wiki : Born August 19, 1938 (age 75 [now]) Strasbourg, France
	👻 4:01pm G: Clef Garry Clef Bass
	4:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Manichaeism : en.wikipedia.org... - I spell purty one day...
	4:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - he's not gonna close this sale... ...I can certainly relate to a job where everyone's a drag except for one or a few you hope to see...
	👻 4:06pm G: SPOILER ALERT: This is not going to go well.
	4:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - his delivery - definitive.
	4:10pm Caryn: @rrg: I don't think it really sounds like Dolly anymore, but it sounds like a cover of the song, not a slowed-down version, which is rare for slowed-down tracks. Whenever that happens, I'm quite thrilled.
	👻 4:14pm rrg: @Caryn: you know, you're right, it's a fine thing.
	👻 4:22pm G: He felt absence was very present to him.
	4:23pm glenn: speaking of john lennon - arts.nationalpost.com...
	4:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I read the News today - ohboy...
	4:26pm Sean D. Daily: I'm waiting for Godot.
	4:26pm Caryn: Oh lord, speaking of the astronaut, apparently the Alan Parsons Project has dedicated a song to him during a concert and beamed it to the ISS. Honestly? For some reason I had remained ignorant that the APP was still going.
	4:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - okay - he closed the sale, but got it home & found it meaningless...
	👻 4:27pm rrg: Me too.
	👻 4:29pm G: The APP is now an app automatically writing albums via logarithm. It doesn't need any human assistance to keep going.
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the production on these Tom Waits - or is it Arrangement - these sounds...
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the Eye in the Sky...
	4:30pm Carmichael: Yes, APP is still going, and still going strong. I don't know why he hasn't even been sniffed at by the R&R Hall of Fame committee. For his producing and engineering, if nothing else.
	4:30pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin. An excellent choice to follow Mr. Frank too.
	4:31pm still b/p: After listening to that on a trip over the weekend, the sound and style of Tom's questioning in it was adapted several times to what we encountered on the road.
	4:33pm Droll: Carm, I know what keeps AP out of the RRHoFaM. In a word: Prog. The RRHoFaM dismisses prog, it's in the bylaws.
	4:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the way Joe articulated the nature of Romance so convincingly even in this jaded age - & then totally trashes it.
	4:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - it's a dumbass popularity contest - they don't even know what producing and engineering is.
	4:40pm Carmichael: That's as good an explanation as any, RR63.
	4:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Walton wiki : en.wikipedia.org...
	4:43pm Matthyou Springwater: Cooool Jazz Message for this steamin' day... Hi Irwin and Irwinites!
	4:44pm Caryn: My relationship to all awards is complicated: whenever someone I like wins one, I'm thrilled about the recognition and proof of the awesomeness of the person or group I admire. Then, whenever someone is ignored or nominated but beaten by someone I view as less worthy, the awards are dumb and not proof of anything. I'm a hypocrite, but I'm aware of it, so I feel less bad.
	4:44pm Matthyou Springwater: @Carm: G has also pointed out that if you ever pissed off Jann Wenner or Ahmet Ertegun, you're probably on their shitlist for life.
	4:45pm Carmichael: In this case, he pissed off Clive Davis. That'd probably be enough.
	4:46pm Matthyou Springwater: The Big Clivehuna--yep, that's big!
	4:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Trio workin' out this Monk & taking it to a beautiful place...
	👻 4:48pm G: the vacuum cleaner is way far back in the mix
	4:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they stumble on some of undeniable Merit - because we the people have chosen it & made it huge & they don't want to be embarrassed. Does anybody consider whether or not someone is the RRHoF before digging it? ...A friend of mine was worried she was too old to be in a band & people wouldn't let her - I said, 'Since when is Rock'n'Roll about asking for permission - ?!?'...
	4:52pm Droll: Awards in the music business would make more sense if musicians wrote/recorded music specifically to win awards in the way some books, movies and TV shows are made not for commercial potential, but for the prestige. In the grand scheme of things, the RRHF is totally legit compared the the Billboard Circle-Jerk awards.
	4:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - like, if they get inducted, maybe sales go up w/ yuppies for a week?
	4:54pm Carmichael: No, you get to jam at the R&R HoF concert with all the fellow band members you now hate.
	4:55pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: Jazzerclean Vol. 1, with Irwin Chusid!
	4:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - well - that's worth seeing.
	👻 4:57pm G: The opening lyric of the first post-Atlantic "Union" album by Yes is something like: Begone you ever piercing power play machine Cutting our musical solidarity... For I am out of thee, with a vengeance. I imagine Ahmed's response is: You are out of the RRHOF, with a vengeance, smartasses.
	4:57pm Matthyou Springwater: 80s psych?
	4:57pm Carmichael: Hey, pre/post/during Fairport Convention!
	4:58pm glenn: a merry go round song. by emmitt rhodes.
	4:58pm Carmichael: "I am a clock, I am a camera ..."
	4:59pm Droll: G, Joni made it into the RRHF despite "Free Man in Paris". That was about David Geffen!
	5:00pm northguineahills: Hello Everybody!
	👻 5:00pm rrg: Emitt Rhodes? Holy cow. Good old Irwin.
	5:00pm Carmichael: I just noticed Iain Matthews' name, and Fairport covered it a long time ago.
	👻 5:00pm G: Ahmet holds a longer grudge than Geffen???
	5:01pm Matthyou Springwater: Hey NGH!
	5:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I can see the value of a Museum were it an actual resource center & commemoration - but the focus is skewed from that. What is the model - Sports?
	5:02pm Matthyou Springwater: I would imagine so G, esp. since Ahmet is older, longer and now DEAD but he still holds more sway than Geffen does (Neil Young has been admitted at least twice).
	5:03pm northguineahills: Been in meetings all day and yesterday, been missing my WFMU.
	5:04pm Matthyou Springwater: Uggggh...fuckin' cane Sandy! Yours and Ken's online uncensored shows were the only good things about that.
	5:04pm Sean D. Daily: NOT THE NEVER-BEFORENESS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
	5:05pm Mike East: The Sandy one year anniversary for me will be obscured by my daughter's first birthday.
	5:05pm glenn: there's some good stuff on the 1st fairport album.
	👻 5:05pm rrg: Don't get me started. I never got to hear that Sandy show of Irwin's and I never will because IT WASN'T RECORDED.
	5:06pm Caryn: I agree wholeheartedly with Matthyou. Now if only Ken would've archived his uncensored Sandy shows...
	👻 5:06pm rrg: And I was kinda too busy at the time to listen. And also powerless.
	5:07pm Jan: Irwin- You have me looking back to that Wednesday after Sandy. I had to leave my abode and missed your show that day. It wasn't archived was it. I needed you that day to make sense of it, but alas I was left to other devices besides the radio or internet. Was the show taped?
	5:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Are the MC5 in the RRHoF? The New York Dolls? The Nuggets box set? Okay - they got Patti Smith...
	5:08pm Matthyou Springwater: @Caryn: I wonder if anyone did record it... Also, it's been a long day. I didn't even notice I still had my Hearty White moniker up from yesterday. Oh well, I'll just leave it up the rest of this show, start what I finished, etc etc...
	5:09pm glenn: ooh! ooh! magazine! john mcgeoch IS THE GREATEST.
	5:09pm glenn: or was, technically.
	5:09pm Mike East: Its effing hot in here!! Can someone please come through with a $10,000 backline order so my boss can stop laying people off and I can turn the goddamn air on?
	5:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: King Crimson? Hawkwind? - Whose Hall is this thing - ?! I suppose you answered that...
	5:10pm Irwin: The Sandy show -- which included lots of BLUE material -- was not archived, tho the playlist was. www.wfmu.org...
	5:10pm glenn: i'll be there in 5, mike.
	5:13pm Parq: Good comment pieces in the Good Grey Lady Online from Schlessinger and Collingwood, respectively, on their approaches to songwriting.
	👻 5:13pm rrg: I still say you should recreate that show. You have the playlist, you have the memories, you have the Internet.
	5:14pm Jan: As it was not archived, you must do your best to re-enact the program as you special commemorative edition. No doubt the listenership will swell for such a program. Specially if it is promoted on the station for the week before.
	5:14pm Caryn: @Matthyou: I seem to remember someone saying they were recording the show at home, so supposedly there are at least partial records of those shows somewhere. Can't remember who it was, though.
	5:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Thx Parq. This I want to know.
	5:15pm Mike East: Thanks, glenn. Just call in with a credit card if you can. We really appreciate it. :) I'll reserve the Steinway and all our B3's for you.
	5:15pm steve: lol
	5:16pm glenn: thanks. ummmm. i don't play piano.
	5:16pm Parq: Irwin, some of us still remember when you first introduced Jandek to FMU listeners. The wonder of it all, eh?
	👻 5:16pm rrg: Track that person down, Caryn. Who said this and when was it said? Is it on a playlist comment thread somewhere?
	5:18pm lou: Isn't this the guy arrested for having ricin? Very outsider move!
	5:18pm Matthyou Springwater: Rob Alberg needs to put another album out. Does he have a Bandcamp??...
	5:18pm Laura L: Alberg is still single and maybe still in the slammer for making ricin, isn't he.
	5:18pm Irwin: Same guy. Famous!
	👻 5:19pm G: I can't believe no one snapped up this gem of a man. :)
	5:19pm Matthyou Springwater: @Caryn: I'll dig through the playlists later and see who that might have been--I relish looking through our playlists for primary sources!
	5:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - single note samba...
	5:19pm steve: oy, poor Robert
	5:20pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: If he's still in the joint, he'll get the attention of prison groupies at least. Jail has that effect on men--even Milhouse's Dad! :) @RRN63: Good album title.
	5:22pm Caryn: @rrg & Matthyou: yep, it was mentioned on a playlist, but I can't remember if someone said it as the shows were going on or during a later show when we were lamenting the lack of recordings.
	5:22pm Matthyou Springwater: @Irwin: Speaking of which..got your old "Incorrect and Proud" from the Prize Warehouse this year! It's excellent, lived up to my hype! I especially like Rockin' With Barbara's "I Like To". It sounds familiar, did you ever use that melody as bed music?
	5:23pm lou: http://seattletimes.com/html/eastsidenews/2002080339_ricin03m.html
	👻 5:23pm rrg: That's in the Prize Warehouse? Maybe I can get it next year.
	5:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Matt: Thx but 'OneNoteSamba' is a Jazz Standard...
	5:24pm Mike East: ok, glenn. Send me your rider...please leave off the catering/hotels/and transport. That's somebody else's job. ;)
	5:25pm Matthyou Springwater: @rrg: Anything that's still on the list you can order! But you should hurry, it's from 2002 so there might not be many left.
	5:26pm Matthyou Springwater: Just like Antonio Carlos Jobim, stealing that idea just a half-century before we could use it. But, he's Antonio Carlos Jobim, so I can't stay mad at him.
	👻 5:28pm rrg: You can "order" from the Prize Warehouse at any time? Like it was amazon.com, you mean?
	5:28pm Matthyou Springwater: Wooooooo! This is a great Lane & Luis one!! I've said before that if there's any justice, this should be the #1 mainstream pop song in the US.
	5:28pm Droll: Mike, Don't you work at SIR? Maybe you could get Adrian Belew to reimburse SIR for whatever he's doing to their amp -- he's clearly not using it according to the manufacturer's specifications: 24.media.tumblr.com...
	5:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Why can't the Stones make records like this 'SuckIt' for themselves...sigh - if i ruled the world...
	5:29pm Denise in DC: I have Incorrect and Proud! It's one of my prize CDs. Especially "Diary of an Unborn Child." I played it at a Xmas party once and literally had someone rolling on the floor laughing with tears running down her face.
	5:29pm Matthyou Springwater: @rrg: I don't think so...I meant order it when Marathontime rolls around. But check out "the consumer marketplace at WFMU's Crapola Central"--some Warehouse items are actually available at FMU's online store year-round.
	5:30pm rsj: perfectly incorrect and red-state like
	5:30pm lou: Apparently Alberg is out, has a 2nd cd from 2011 and is on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robert.alberg.9 http://lighthouse7.tripod.com/ABOUTRMA.HTML
	5:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ..doesn't AdrianBelew help define 'specifications' ? - Is that KimGordan in that phot w/ him? - Oh yes - true - let's all have a yuck about the mentally ill...he doesn't know where we are does he?...
	👻 5:32pm rrg: Hey, I was just there myself.
	5:33pm Denise in DC: Otis has been wed! That's lovely!
	5:33pm Matthyou Springwater: @Denise: That guy should have done a very late night Christian puppet show--stoners wouldn't watch anything else! I think "Diary" is avail for download at the 365 Days Project.
	5:34pm Mike East: @Droll - no, SIR is our competition...at the moment, I think they may be winning. don't tell them that, though.
	👻 5:34pm rrg: It's not ALL beautiful. As you discovered.
	5:34pm glenn: did you have a montreal bagel?
	5:35pm Matthyou Springwater: "Grim Montreal"...is that anything like "Ruined Upsala"? www.flickr.com...
	👻 5:35pm rrg: Well, yes. West Island, actually (Bagel de l'Ouest).
	5:35pm Laura L: Let's ask Otis to put together a GrimMontreal tune for us one day.
	👻 5:35pm rrg: And Cote-St-Luc BBQ.
	5:36pm Matthyou Springwater: Muriel's Treasure! De orizhinal! @glenn: Never been there, but I've long heard that they rival NYC's. Besides poutine it's one of the first things I'd try.
	👻 5:36pm Alison Porchnik: I had a 2-day old Montreal bagel for breakfast this morning. It was pretty good.
	👻 5:36pm rrg: And French Fries with gravy.
	👻 5:37pm rrg: And afternoon tea at the Queen E.
	👻 5:37pm rrg: Not all at the same time, though.
	5:38pm Sean D. Daily: "Smell hater!" "TASTE FASCIST!"
	👻 5:39pm rrg: Yes, I've heard from Rebecca that there's a place in Brooklyn that gets a shipment of bagels from Montréal every Saturday morning. Some guy leaves there at midnight with a car full of bagels and drives to Brooklyn. That could just be an urban legend, though.
	5:39pm Skippy: Daddy! Where have you been?
	5:39pm Matthyou Springwater: @AP: I watched "Annie Hall" recently, and discovered that Carol Kane's character from that was in the credits as "Alison Portchnik"! Never knew of that connection before! :)
	5:40pm Irwin: "Fascist" = anyone who disagrees with you.
	5:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: : / : D
	👻 5:40pm rrg: There is not, or need not be, any rivalry. They're different things, both worth our attention. We need not choose.
	5:40pm Skippy: I disagree
	👻 5:41pm G: It has been harder to get real boiled bagels in recent years. Caveat bagel emptor.
	5:41pm Droll: I knew smelly tongues looked just as they felt, but I had no idea they were also fascists.
	5:41pm Matthyou Springwater: I'm sure Sexton would like the smell of ichthammol ointment then; the most putrid petrol-based ointment I've found thus far.
	👻 5:41pm G: I am woman, see me travel
	👻 5:42pm rrg: Wait, you're not saying that "Allison Porchnik" is a pseudonym, are you? Damn, you can't trust anyone. All the rest of us are using our real names, AP.
	5:42pm Matthyou Springwater: Hmm, Helen Reddy was a Cilla Black vocal-and-brass type at some point? Should've stayed with this style.
	5:42pm Denise in DC: I recognized Helen Reddy's voice immediately. Should I be worried?
	5:43pm Denise in DC: Also, the WFMU website refuses to let me log in.
	👻 5:43pm Alison Porchnik: @Matthyou The original is spelled (in the credits) with two Ls but I had to spell it with one for reasons I don't remember. @RRG - it is true, you're referring to Mile End (never been). I believe there is also another establishment that imports the raw materials to the city and is making them here.
	5:43pm Matthyou Springwater: Yeah, I know rrg! It's why I once greeted you as "errrgg".
	👻 5:43pm G: Porchnik is one of the commonest names in the NY/NJ area.
	5:43pm glenn: there's two bakeries. fairmount and st. viateur. most people, west island included, sell fairmount.
	👻 5:44pm rrg: We don't believe you. What have you done with the REAL Denise?
	👻 5:45pm rrg: They bake them themselves at the place to which I was referring (Bagel de l'Ouest on Sources Rd. in Roxboro).
	5:46pm Matthyou Springwater: @G: I used to think a Porchnik family had a racket on all the borscht counters in NY, but I discovered that they were all different operators with the same last name.
	👻 5:46pm rrg: There are a lot more than two bagel bakeries on the island of Montreal, I would contend.
	5:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...you'd think being a porch-nik would be primarily a Southern preoccupation...
	5:48pm glenn: huh. i stand (or sit) corrected.
	👻 5:48pm rrg: AP, if there is a place in New York (or "even" Brooklyn) that's baking its own Montreal-style bagels, I would love to know where it is.
	👻 5:48pm G: O.J. redux.
	5:49pm glenn: really, there aren't.
	👻 5:49pm rrg: P&OJ
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - it's a porch - go ahead & swing corrected...
	5:50pm Denise in DC: OMFG. I love this. ^meaningful comment that adds substance to the discussion
	5:50pm Parq: It's not a Porch, it's a Ferrari. (Punchline of old joke).
	5:51pm Droll: Montreal-style bagels? Like the ones at Tim Horton's? Those are called doughnuts here in the states. Montreal isn't even the Great White North, Seattle is further north than Montreal.
	5:51pm Matthyou Springwater: DeFeudis horribly mistuned/mistimed "Desperado" is a true treasure. Another artist deserving his own Anthology box set.
	👻 5:53pm rrg: Lumineers cover! Love the voices of these girls.
	5:53pm glenn: the google machine says mile end deli. www.mileenddeli.com...
	5:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...has anyone used AutoTune to detune anything for 'authenticity' yet?...
	5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: rrg: Yup.
	5:55pm glenn: maybe, but montreal's about 50 degrees colder in the winter.
	5:56pm Denise in DC: Holy shit. A song for Phil Milstein! I used to work with him in a typesetting shop in Cambridge.
	👻 5:56pm rrg: Ah, "Mlle End" is a Mtl neighborhood so I was confused. It's also the name of this Brooklyn deli. But it says right there that someone drives bagels to Brooklyn weekly from St-Viateur Bagel in Montreal, doesn't it?
	5:56pm Andrew Waterloo: The best bagel I've had in awhile was a massive thing that came from Lindsay Ontario.
	5:56pm Matthyou Springwater: P&OJ as the musical guest on SNL, David Rees hosting. Not gonna happen in this universe, but that's an ideal selection I would make were it in my power.
	5:56pm Droll: Thanks Irwin, "You know weird stuff in a corner of the basement of the world".
	👻 5:58pm rrg: What, we're done? But I'm not finished rambling yet. Except I guess I am. Night, all. Thanks for another fun show, Mr. Irwin. À bientôt.
	5:58pm Matthyou Springwater: Thanks Irwin, for the tunes great, not-so-great, and the atrocious ones too! Have a great day everyone!
	5:58pm glenn: lindsay is my favourite place that shares the name of an ex girlfriend.
	5:59pm glenn: well, that and mindemoya.
	6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - I didn't ☆ five trax. - Thx for the rest though!...
	11:54am kat330: @Alison Porchnik @3:01pm : I sense her slight stoop is from shouldering the weight of the world.