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Favoriting February 14, 2014: Fool's Way of Loving
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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments Approx. start time
Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods  Fool's Way of Loving   Favoriting   ABC Records  1974  45    0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Doc Watson  Tom Dooley   Favoriting The Essential Doc Watson          0:02:49 (Pop-up)
Neil Young & Crazy Horse  Down by the River   Favoriting Live At The Fillmore East March 6 & 7 1970  Reprise  2006  CD    0:05:50 (Pop-up)
The Cowboy Junkies  Run For Your Life   Favoriting The Bird Has Flown: A 40th Annieversary Tribute to the Beatles Rubber Soul  Razor & Tie  2005  CD    0:18:11 (Pop-up)
 
Porter Wagoner  The Cold Hard Facts of Life   Favoriting The Cold Hard Facts of Life / Soul of a Convict  The Omni Recording Corporation  2008  CD  Originally released in 1967  0:26:26 (Pop-up)
Johnny Paycheck  Pardon Me (I've Got Someone To Kill)   Favoriting Nowhere To Run: The Little Darlin' Years 1966-1970  The Omni Recording Corporation  2009  CD    0:30:07 (Pop-up)
Pavel Bobek  Ruby, nechtěj mi lásku brát   Favoriting   Supraphon  1970  45    0:32:34 (Pop-up)
Johnny Cash  Delia's Gone   Favoriting Love God Murder  Columbia Legacy  2000  CD    0:35:31 (Pop-up)
Tom Jones  Deliah   Favoriting The Best of ... Tom Jones  Polygram  1997  CD    0:37:53 (Pop-up)
 
Cher  Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)   Favoriting           0:45:25 (Pop-up)
Cher  Dark Lady   Favoriting           0:48:13 (Pop-up)
Judy Henske  Love, Henry   Favoriting           0:51:45 (Pop-up)
 
Clusone 3  Love Henry   Favoriting Love Henry  Gramavision  1997  CD    1:00:59 (Pop-up)
            Crimes of Passion chat with Andrea Silenzi  1:28:12 (Pop-up)
Jim White  Stabbed in the Heart   Favoriting Wrong-Eyed Jesus!  Warner Bros.  1997  CD    1:28:22 (Pop-up)
Tom Carter and Christian Kiefer  Pretty Polly   Favoriting From the Great American Songbook  Preservation  2008  CD    1:32:13 (Pop-up)
Clara Hawks Tracy  Pretty Polly (The False Hearted Knight)   Favoriting Wolf River Songs  Folkways Records    MP3  Recorded in 1956  1:43:54 (Pop-up)
M.J. Harris/Martyn Bates  The Death of Polly   Favoriting Murder Ballads  Invisible Records  1998  CD    1:48:23 (Pop-up)
 
Robert Johnson  32-20 Blues   Favoriting The Complete Recordings  Columbia  1990  CD  Recorded in 1936  2:05:07 (Pop-up)
Blind Willie McTell  A to Z Blues   Favoriting Pig 'n Whistle Red  Biograph  1993  CD  Recorded in 1950  2:07:56 (Pop-up)
Sonny Boy Williamson  Your Funeral and My Trial   Favoriting His Best: Chess 50th Anniversary Collection  Chess / MCA  1997  CD  Recorded in 1958  2:10:12 (Pop-up)
Hasil Adkins  No More Hot Dogs   Favoriting Out to Hunch  Norton Records  2002  CD    2:12:55 (Pop-up)
Mississippi John Hurt  Frankie and Johnny   Favoriting           2:14:57 (Pop-up)
The Everly Brothers  Down in the Willow Garden   Favoriting           2:18:09 (Pop-up)
Flatt & Scruggs  Dig a Hole in the Meadow   Favoriting At Carnegie Hall  eOne / Koch International  1982  MP3  Recorded in 1962  2:21:19 (Pop-up)
Joan Baez  On the Banks of the Ohio   Favoriting           2:23:31 (Pop-up)
The Rays  Silhouettes on the Shade   Favoriting   Cameo  1957  MP3    2:26:10 (Pop-up)
Mark Dinning  Teen Angel   Favoriting     1960  MP3    2:28:47 (Pop-up)
The Bobbettes  I Shot Mr. Lee   Favoriting     1957  MP3    2:31:27 (Pop-up)
Duane Eddy  Girl on Death Row   Favoriting     1960  MP3  Produced by Lee Hazelwood  2:33:54 (Pop-up)
Sonic Youth / /Lydia Lunch  Death Valley ’69   Favoriting   Homestead / Blast First  1985  12"    2:36:30 (Pop-up)
 
Oki  Bang Bang remix (Joy Division vs Nancy Sinatra)   Favoriting           2:47:33 (Pop-up)
Diem Lien & Nguyen Khang  Kni Xua Ta Be   Favoriting           2:51:18 (Pop-up)
Vanilla Fudge  Bang Bang   Favoriting           2:54:53 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:01pm
common:

hey kurt! did bryce vanish? I missed your banter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:03pm
Caryn:

My bird's still grooving to this!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:05pm
DCE:

hi Kurt
  3:06pm
LovecraftDude888:

heartbeat...why do you MISS when kurt's minotaur kisses me
Avatar 3:07pm
hamburger:

evening, beersies
Avatar 3:07pm
glenn:

doc watson followed by live neil? we are not worthy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:07pm
SeanG:

how long is this song?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

♡BuddyHolly♥
Avatar 3:07pm
Derek Bee:

Wow, Neil Young played this song live for 2 days in 1970 now that's a jam session...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:07pm
DCE:

LONG
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:08pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- ah ! - that's what the Fillmore East was for !...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:09pm
Caryn:

Okay, in honour of tonight's theme, decided to change the way too chirpy bird avatar into something else Kurt might appreciate.
Avatar 3:10pm
Derek Bee:

That's right, they gave the audience sleeping bags on the way in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:10pm
Caryn:

If this is the 2 day version, does that mean Kurt's show will continue until Sunday? Kurt could just leave this on and go to that concert tonight.
Avatar 3:11pm
Kurt Gottschalk:

happy valentine's day, everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:12pm
SeanG:

it's a love-in
Avatar 3:12pm
Kurt Gottschalk:

nice O(+> avatar, caryn!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:13pm
Caryn:

Thanks, Kurt! I like the fact that it seems to be drawn with a purple pen, appropriately enough.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:13pm
Mike East:

diggin' this live Young. Happy V day, Kurt!
Avatar 3:13pm
glenn:

kurt and listeners,
sittin' in a tree.
(not playing kiss) k i s s i n g.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:14pm
Mike East:

my wife brought me flowers today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:14pm
Caryn:

Aw, that's nice, Mike.
Avatar 3:15pm
glenn:

are you gonna sing a duet with her now, mike?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:16pm
Mike East:

maybe with the baby, glenn...she came too.
Avatar 3:16pm
glenn:

as lou reed once said about neil - "the son of a bitch can play guitar".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:16pm
Mike East:

Hey Caryn, have you watched The Turin Horse? that recently blew me away.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:16pm
rsj:

talking guitar
Avatar 3:17pm
Derek Bee:

With Neil Young you can't ever say it's the notes he doesn't play.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- ah Neil - proud proud ♏Scorpios : ) ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:19pm
Caryn:

@Mike: no, I haven't. I don't think it was released here, nor is it available anywhere locally.

BTW, is that someone's tour bus as your avatar?
Avatar 3:20pm
glenn:

single notes only. neil never plays double stop stuff..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:20pm
Caryn:

I forget, Kurt. Was this one of the Beatles songs you hated, or one you defended in the recent "worst Beatles songs" discussion?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:20pm
Mike East:

as a matter of fact, it is Neil Young's tour bus, parked outside Carnegie Hall.

Definitely check it out if it becomes available. Bela Tarr
Avatar 3:21pm
Kurt Gottschalk:

caryn, hated, tho i like this revisionist version
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:21pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Cowboys make me think - maybe this *isn't* such a weak spot in the Beatles' oeuvre...Anyhow - tag the 'Day Tripper'/'We Can Work it Out' single onto the end of 'Rubber Soul' & it's all better...
Avatar 3:22pm
glenn:

oooh. i missed the worst beatles song discussion, but i bet they're all mccartney songs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:23pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- no - that one's Johnny's.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:23pm
Caryn:

That's what I thought, Kurt. Which is why this threw me, since if you hated it, you wouldn't play it (that kind of behaviour is reserved for Ken)? I thought I must have remembered wrong. So, good to know.
Avatar 3:25pm
glenn:

well, yeah, except run for your life isn't even close to being one of the beatles worst songs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:26pm
Caryn:

So, murder love songs. You could just have an hour-long Nick Cave set. I suspect the show will be more varied though.
  3:27pm
67tele:

John Lennon also mentioned how he cribbed that "rather see you dead..." line from Elvis' "Baby Let's Play house"
Avatar 3:27pm
Derek Bee:

Leave McCartney alone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:27pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...it borrows pretty heavily from an Elvis song for starters...always interesting to see where Lennon's head & development were @ - if nothing else...he tended to self-reveal, 1st person - where SirMacca used Pastiche - &tc. ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:28pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- Thx, 67...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:28pm
Caryn:

My view of Porter Wagoner is so Dolly-adjacent and wholesome that I wasn't expecting him to show up tonight.
Avatar 3:28pm
Derek Bee:

Oh dear, this isn't going to end well.
Avatar 3:29pm
Cecile:

"guts" is pretty graphic

The lack of stories kind of mirrors real life -people committing crimes of passion often want to forget the crime. Psychopaths relive it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:29pm
coelacanth:

country death song. (obvious)

...Kurt,have you read "Steppenwolf"? You might appreciate it!
Avatar 3:29pm
glenn:

no way. macca is the greatest rock bass player ever. he's written some great songs. he played the solo on taxman. and he's responsible for some of the worst dreck i can think of.
Avatar 3:30pm
Derek Bee:

You tell 'em glenn!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:30pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...compare to Dylan, or Stones' 'Play w/ Fire' - or even John's own 'You Can't Do That' earlier - 'Run' is pretty weak; 'Rubber Soul' was done very quickly, actually - esp. for a stone cold Classic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:32pm
Caryn:

Let's face it, both Lennon McCartney have written masterpieces. And some absolute pieces of crap. As did George and Ringo, come to think of it. And I feel safe in saying that even the worst Beatles songs were superior to the worst Lennon and McCartney solo stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:32pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- that's interesting C'ec: I've often noted the lack of Motive in Murder Ballads, over Gruesome Detail - like - wtf - ?!?!
Avatar 3:32pm
ät çpd:

I totally agree with glenn but that heart gif is already driving nuts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:32pm
DCE:

lucky me, someone got flowers at work today but they're not here, and now my wife gets flowers and I don't have to pay for flowers
Avatar 3:32pm
Cecile:

you got "snakes crawl at night" by charley pride?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:33pm
DCE:

Ruby!
Avatar 3:33pm
ät çpd:

Also agree with most of what Caryn said.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:33pm
DCE:

in what, Polish?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:34pm
DCE:

czech?
Avatar 3:34pm
glenn:

true, but probably more because george martin produced the beatles, and he could make the howling of feral cats sound like the academy of st. martin in the fields.
  3:34pm
djelrock:

Excellent tune!
Avatar 3:34pm
ät çpd:

dang. I was embroiled in Beatles worst song discussions for the last 2 days. On FB and in real life.
Avatar 3:35pm
hamburger:

wiki says czech!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:35pm
Caryn:

@RRN63: well, often crimes of passion seem to lack a proper motive anyway. You're obsessed with someone, then overcome with some vague, undefined paranoia about unfaithfulness or "being done wrong by", and boom - you've killed someone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:35pm
DCE:

did anyone watch that dumb 50th anniversary special last Sunday?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:35pm
coelacanth:

I think the worst Lennon & worst Harrison solo works are not even close to as bad as the worst Beatles' songs.
Avatar 3:35pm
ät çpd:

I agree with glenn that Run For Your Life is not that bad. I also like Mr. Moonlight which no one else on earth seems to like.
Avatar 3:35pm
Cecile:

That'll teach her to steppe out on him.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:36pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...in fact - the entire Beatles enterprise was exceedingly quick & productive & insane
...George Martin - Fifth Beatle all the way for giving us those Recordings! - altho' Lennon's point taken: everybody claims to be the secret behind The Beatles - but what have they done w/out them - ??
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:36pm
DCE:

I kind of liked Jeff Lynne and Joe Walsh and George's son doing "Something" but other than that, I turned it right off
Avatar 3:36pm
glenn:

i concur with cecile on the charley pride. sorely underrated is charley.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:36pm
Caryn:

@glenn: heh. I suspect that even George Martin couldn't make something like "Bip Bop" sound good.
Avatar 3:37pm
hamburger:

"hey porter" is a song, and only song, that for some reason I get a smell association with it, every time I hear it, the smell of leather in a car that's been in the sun for a while...
Avatar 3:38pm
Derek Bee:

All these country songs and written/sung by supposed Christians - love, I tell you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:38pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Mr. Moonlight' was a cover - an obscure one, & points for that - & done w/ some ironic Humor (c'mon!! - that organ) - almost prefiguring The Ramones in dumb greatness like that - & a total standout Lennon vocal - 110%.
Avatar 3:39pm
glenn:

oh man. my testosterone count is going up- by the second.
  3:39pm
Robert:

Before hearing that last number, I'd never realized "Daley's Gone", about Richard J. Daley, was a parody.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:39pm
Caryn:

Hey, I was just typing about how I was expecting Tom doing "Delilah" to show up any minute, and had to delete what I was typing when the intro kicked in! Kurt, you sly devil!
Avatar 3:40pm
Cecile:

ITA, glenn. voice of satin.
A lot of perpetrators of crimes of passion say if they had waited until the moment passed, they would have just called their lawyers and filed for divorce. But it seems like when you get to that point, decisive and fatal action is the only solution for those folks.
Avatar 3:40pm
ät çpd:

(..Beatles debates all a result of Kurt by the way...)
  3:42pm
Robert:

Funny the 1st impressions I get from a song. When I heard the line, "The first time I shot her," my initial thought was that this guy was in the habit of shooting Delia, maybe shot her every day!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:42pm
DCE:

she was a tough woman
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:43pm
Caryn:

@coelacanth: I disagree about Lennon, but I do think Harrison probably had the most consistent solo material in the sense that his worst solo stuff was never anywhere as bad as the other three's, or the Beatles' worst stuff. Good on you, George!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:43pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@Robert: ...reminds me of a Ray Bradbury story in which a guy gets busted for killing a virtual version of his woman...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:43pm
Caryn:

@DCE & Robert: Delilah was the Rasputin of ladies. Keeps getting shot, keeps living.
Avatar 3:44pm
ät çpd:

right that dumb list of worst Beatles songs has 3 covers on it--you can't hold them responsible for other people's tunes.
Avatar 3:44pm
glenn:

does anybody have the wandering eyes - "songs of forbidden love' disc? it's chock a block with great old country songs about well, forbidden love.
  3:44pm
Robert:

And I heard that Daley song only once, shortly after he died, on I forgot which station in Chicago.
Avatar 3:45pm
Cecile:

the singer is taking the guns to town.
Ruby is taking her love to town.
And that song was made famous by Kenny Rogers and the First Edition.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:45pm
DCE:

we have a local country music show on our college station that plays obscure late 60s early 70s stuff. almost all of it is based on cheating and drinking.
  3:45pm
Kenny Rogers:

I get no respect
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:45pm
Caryn:

A few months back, I bought a big box set of country murder ballads. This show makes me want to dig it out and put it on (only after your show, of course, Kurt).
Avatar 3:47pm
glenn:

dce, does that station have a website? i love that stuff.
  3:48pm
P-90:

One of the very few from the victim's point of view. Interesting. A little.
Avatar 3:48pm
glenn:

the bonzos did bang bang too. just sayin'.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:49pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...George was also less prolific - the least showbizzy or motivated to express his ego to the Public - & his worst was religiously preachy - &/or dull - altho' he'd been held back as the Dark Horse by the Big Two & came out the gate w/ particularly great stuff...John (who died @ only 40 in 1980, always remember) tended to say it was all about Him & Paul - much as people put John & George together in the 'Cool' column...George's last stuff ('Brainwashed') was pretty good though !!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:49pm
DCE:

@ glenn wcsbradio.com that show is on Wed from 5-6pm, livestream from anywhere. it's a great station!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:49pm
Caryn:

About a year back, someone on a WFMU comments board gave a link to a list of "Bang Bang" covers. Now I feel like digging up that list too.
  3:50pm
Robert:

Found the lyrics -- http://en.musicplayon.com/lyrics-touch?v=8600401
Avatar 3:51pm
ƃu¡ʍ ʎɹɐɯ:

Got back in time for Cher, woo!
  3:51pm
P-90:

One Cher is never enough at a Valentine's Day Massacre
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:51pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Bluh...been pushing snow out of the driveway and off the roof since 9:30 this morning. I need a break....and some food & drink...and some music, why not?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:52pm
DCE:

days of your what?
Avatar 3:53pm
glenn:

carolyn mark?
  3:53pm
DeadManPunk:

Could StaggerLee or Nick Cave& the bad seeds be in this playlist?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:53pm
coelacanth:

Hey Caryn- Yeah,Harrison wasn't always great;But he was never BAD!...And i'm one of those loonies that likes the "experimental" albums of John & Yoko. When she "contributed" to other peoples' songs is when she really was horrific...But,i'll think about it.John did have some really bad songs,but there are at least 5 Beatles songs that i absolutely cannot stand.
  3:54pm
P-90:

@ Caryn: If you find the Murder Ballad list link, could you post it, please?
Avatar 3:54pm
Derek Bee:

@DCE days of yore = olden days
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glenn:

oh. judy henske. i don't think i've ever heard her speak before. i found out about her from andrew vacchs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:54pm
coelacanth:

I didn't know this side of Judy .It's great!
  3:55pm
LovecraftDude888:

Ken...pure suck! I did my car at noon that was fun...not. take a breather matey
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:56pm
Caryn:

@P-90: the "Bang Bang" list (thought short) is: www.youtube.com...
Avatar 3:57pm
Derek Bee:

This woman is the Neil Young of song intros.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:58pm
coelacanth:

I just know Cher's & Terri Reid's...Both superb.
Avatar 3:59pm
glenn:

she's got a fantastic voice. holy jeez.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:59pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Judy Henske said to be an undersung FolkRawk Pioneer - & I am intrigued - so Thx. Her humor apparent.
There is *no* Beatles I can't stand - though I may occasionally not be in the mood; since the 2009 Remasters - I've wanted to hear them even more ! They go back to the Cartoon Show in my toddlerhood for me - about as Deep as Roots get...
  3:59pm
P-90:

@ Kurt G: great set, aand thanks for the Prince glyph emoticon, I had not seen that one before, cool
Avatar 4:00pm
maja:

lots of stars today
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glenn:

she's like the american sandy denny, without that whole falling down the stairs problem.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:01pm
Caryn:

BTW, Kurt, did you make yourself watch "New Girl" when Prince was on it?
Avatar 4:01pm
glenn:

hey kurt, i sent you a song. check your email.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:01pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...like the SmothersBros. combined w/ Grace Slick...
  4:01pm
LovecraftDude888:

that movie with A. Perkins was pretty illin
  4:02pm
P-90:

@Caryn: Thanks for the Bang Bang link and Happy Valentine's day to you, many happy returns
Avatar 4:02pm
Cecile:

Caryn, I saw that. It was hilarious.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:06pm
Caryn:

@Cecile: hey, watching Prince dole out love advice and charm butterflies is always entertaining.

@P-90: same to you!
Avatar 4:06pm
glenn:

oh, those pesky kids. news.nationalpost.com...
  4:06pm
r i s k y:

Kurt, I LOVE YOU.
  4:07pm
P-90:

@Caryn: I'm so not into making myself watch New Girl that I didn't even know about Prince's visit. Was that this season?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:07pm
Greg from Bloomfield:

Happy Valentine's Day Kurt & Ange!
  4:08pm
LovecraftDude888:

Glenn: that dorm wall looks like the cheapest construction ever in history of dorm walls, too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:08pm
Andrew Waterloo:

@Kurt, I had similar experience, that look in her eyes really spooked me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:09pm
Caryn:

@P-90: yeah, it was on right after the Super Bowl. It was quite widely publicised, and has since been turned into a barrage of gifs, as things go nowadays.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:10pm
coelacanth:

i've been broken-up with because i wasn't jealous enough.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:10pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

From the Simpsons episode 8F11 - "We're Sending Our Love Down the Well." Not such a dark song for today's show, but the idea of love going down the well is good humor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:11pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Lennon hit early girlfriends - when very young & long before the Liberated 70s. To be brutally frank - I've hit a girlfriend too - once on the arm (not knocking teeth out or anything). Today - in my old age - I wouldn't stay a *nano-second* if I felt like that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:11pm
Caryn:

That is indeed a cheap looking dorm wall. Reminds me of our old primary school, where the first grade classes were in temporary wooden barracks. Well, they've been in the "temporary" barracks since the early 80s, so...
Avatar 4:12pm
Carmichael:

OK, I am back post-luncheon. Whole lotta love on this board.
Avatar 4:12pm
Cecile:

there might be.
There been instances where women have gotten off in the 1800s because the man was so horrible as to drive her to murder. Also, crazy.
  4:12pm
LovecraftDude888:

Caryn..ha the temporary Perm. barracks! heehee that was a big ass snowball, though.
  4:13pm
LovecraftDude888:

i remember that one...so sick. they nabbed her on the Depends....
Avatar 4:14pm
Cecile:

@caryn, my favorite bit was when Jess's friend is playing pingpong with Prince and intimidating him.

The woman who was attacked still is frightened. And she doesn't doubt for a second that she would have been killed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:14pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I wonder what that snowball weighed - & if there was an incline involved...
- Think of the movie 'Chicago' plot & all...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:15pm
Caryn:

Stand-up comedians had a field day with the astronaut: "Ooh, let's see... should I choose my girlfriend, or the crazy lady who's shown up smelling of pee and feces...?"
Avatar 4:15pm
Cecile:

oh, that is horrible.
Avatar 4:16pm
Cecile:

YES. That is so horrible.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:17pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Astronauts are Motivated people I guess !
  4:17pm
LovecraftDude888:

smelled of a carton of TANG inst. breakfast drink as well...so nasty
Avatar 4:18pm
glenn:

well, it's not love that makes you crazy anyway, it's lust.
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Cecile:

it's true, glenn. Lust and possessiveness.
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Cecile:

no, there are idiots who do it out here, too.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Matt quoted somebody: Sex & Money only matter when you don't have enough ! It's Powerful. ...course - I am a ♏Scorp...
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Caryn:

This discussion also makes me think of the crazy stalkers who are convinced their victims are actually in love with them and go insane if they feel they're being "ignored".
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Cecile:

No, it's money.
There are white, black, Indian and Chinese Jamaicans.
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P-90:

@Caryn: Ive been to the Reed College campus, its actually filled with older, very sturdy buildings, I think it likely that the cracked wall is more evidence of a really, really massive snowball than a delicate ticky-tacky dorm
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Remember to call your dear mother and/or father today.
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Cecile:

It's the money - he was upset that was losing his cash cow.

That kind of thing has happened in the US too.
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glenn:

jeez, caryn, are you saying that *GASP* rene russo isn't really in love with me?
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SeanG:

Online dating is CRAP
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Cecile:

Just be smart, Andrea. And carry pepper spray.

White Castle gets all dolled up. They have real silver and tablecloths on Valentine's Day.
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LovecraftDude888:

Sean: even offline!
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glenn:

uhhh. my ex-girlfriend's sister was murdered by a guy she met on craigslist, so yeah, it happens.
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¨ƃu¡ʍ¨ʎɹɐɯ¨:

Killed at White Castle, that's a sad story.
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Caryn:

@glenn: heh. I think she's not. And she didn't wear that one dress on Letterman as a secret sign to you that only you understand. ;)
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...she wanted a White Knight to take her to a Castle - but wore a Pink Dress to go to White Castle..trying to keep up here...
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Cecile:

If someone is trying to kill me, I will try to stop them. I'm not that nice.
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LovecraftDude888:

if the food don't kill er..the guy will
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Cecile:

glenn, that is terrible.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- Jesus glenn.
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ät çpd:

holy crap, what did I stumble into here?
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Cecile:

The law is more lenient on crimes of passion, but you still have to do time if you don't have a great lawyer.
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glenn:

forget the mace. i suggest a small but sturdy watergun filled with tabasco.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...but I guess we knew that happens glenn (craigslist) ...connectivity connects - for better & worse.
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ät çpd:

tabasco would NOT work on me. Let that be known all you ladies....
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LovecraftDude888:

just feed this putz 20 sliders and he won't be able to move to kill a roach on the floor of the restroom which you shall find anyway
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Renee:

Glenn, you and I are on our 3rd restraining order, does that sound like "love" to you?
btw: Happy Valentines Day, loved the edible arrangement, the papaya chunks were to die for
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Cecile:

If I am ever back in the dating pool before the nursing home, I will do a background check on any prospective suitors that will make the FBI look like pikers.
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Caryn:

My mother prefers the hammer as a way to take down assailants.
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glenn:

really? i bet if somebody shot a stream of tabasco into your face / eyes you'd be down. i would be, that's for sure.
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glenn:

aw, come on rene. you haven't used the safe word yet, so they don't count.
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Carmichael:

Soooooo, I guess this is not a Valentine's Day of *hope*, so much as one of *survival*. I've been married so long I'm completely out of touch with dating scenarios.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

In the comic books - all the urban women are past masters of self-defense. Out here...they're probably related anyhow...
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glenn:

besides, look at my avatar. would a fox so cute really hurt you?
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ät çpd:

No way, Tabasco's pretty light compared to some of the stuff out there now. Cheri Pi could tell you all about it if she were here.
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Cecile:

you and me both, Carm. Hence the level 9 security clearance.
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Kurt Gottschalk:

wow, you guys are chatty today! sorry if i missed anything important. finally getting to some long songs and will try to catch up.
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LovecraftDude888:

I loved that chick in Love and Rockets the comic book Luba who carries the hammer around town...hehe
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Caryn:

Oh man, just did the math. It's been about 13 years since I last dated anyone. Sheesh...
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Cecile:

glenn, I expect a narrator to come on any minute: "The Northern Fox..."
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ät çpd:

I use to know a cop who pepper sprayed some giant dude once. The guy wiped it off his face and tasted it. He said "This'd go good on my tacos." Then attacked the cop.
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Ange:

Thank you all for listening to me read from a printout from the internet! I don't know anything about crimes of passion, but I'm trying to learn. Wish me luck at the White Castle tonight!
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ät çpd:

Kripes I don't even want to do the math. I've known my wife for ever.
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Cecile:

cd tap, that was a running joke on Reno 911! too.
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LovecraftDude888:

just do what i did once ....drink peppmint Schnapps with the White Castle or slip this guy a mickey of that with the 20 sliders and he will be immobolized trust me sick as a dawg
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Eric:

Plug for my favorite Valentine's Day song, Dave van Ronk's "The Whores of San Pedro" is the least romantic song ever, provably.
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Cecile:

Halloween 1979 is when me and my guy got serious.
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glenn:

foxes, northern and otherwise, RAWK. 500px.com/blog/1004/25-images-of-foxes-in-the-snow?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I'm probably the only one watches 'Grimm' on NBC: 'giant dude' sounds like 'Wessen' DC Pat/at cpd...
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LovecraftDude888:

I gotta run out on errands folks...OD'ng on Web too much...catch y'all later on or Sat. woohoo
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glenn:

or this. 500px.com...
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Cecile:

yeah, glenn, but didn't you grow up with those nature facts PSAs that used to run on the CBC back in the day?
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Caryn:

@RRN63: I watch it too. Know what you mean about the Wesen, although I think more of that episode of ER with the guy on PCP who couldn't be taken down no matter what they tried.
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DCE:

cool foxes!
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Cecile:

Hinterland Who's Who!
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ät çpd:

in all seriousness, I'm a lightweight and could probably be taken down with Texas Pete's...
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Cecile:

www.youtube.com...
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Caryn:

@glenn: I'm quite drawn to the fox stretching out on the snow, just being "yeah, takin' it easy, just hangin'...".
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I wanna go back to the fox pix...
...I *might've* had PCP once - a microdot I presumed acid or such - just made me feel sedated till paralyzed but conscious - not delusional or aggro @ all...more true confessions of my misbegotten youth here...
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glenn:

yep. hinterland who's who. here's a funny spoof. www.youtube.com...
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glenn:

ha! i was saying yesterday - there's a d.j. in toronto.-- sigourney beaver.
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Cecile:

that is hysterical
"For more information on the crack spider's bitch..."
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Caryn:

Love the spider vid! Based on real experiments about web building under various intoxicants, of course.
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Carmichael:

SCTV did great parodies of Hinterland Who's Who. In fact, the CBC demand for *Canadian Content* caused them to think up the 2 Hosers.
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Renee:

@ glenn and fox fans:
check out this vid of an adorable hand-raised baby fox w/ its "mommy":
http://m.wimp.com/happyfox/
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Kurt Gottschalk:

ok, i think i'm caught up.

i like "mr. moonlight."

i did see prince on "new girl."
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Caryn:

For drugged spiders: scienceblogs.com...
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ƃu¡ʍ ʎɹɐɯ:

We've seen 25 foxes in the snow, now I wanna see a fox on the run
(cue Sweet record)
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common:

happy beersies everyone!
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glenn:

is that the rescue fox? i like that guy.
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Caryn:

Better the Sweet record than "What Does the Fox Say?"
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glenn:

why is mary wing upside down and backwards?
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Cecile:

There was this Russian experiment where they raised foxes in captivity with people and after 3 generations, they were slowly becoming doglike.
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ƃu¡ʍ ʎɹɐɯ:

I made a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
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Cecile:

www.slate.com...
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P-90:

My parents took my See & Say away after I discovered the secret "Redd Foxx says:" setimg
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Caryn:

@glenn: because she likes to spend Valentine's Day hanging upside down like a bat. And it's not nice to call her backward. ;)
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glenn:

ah.
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Eric:

The cool thing about the Russian experiment was that as they selected the foxes for being docile around humans, they also got other doggy traits -- floppy ears and multicolored coats are what I recall.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...the LSD web is only radials - Zen-like
...the Caffeine web is the totally crazytown one...caffeine is reportedly used as a poison against frogs. Toxicants, of course, often evolve as natural defenses.
- Saw those foxes on a PBS Nova or such about Dogs; as aggression was bred out of them, their coloration varied greatly too - & they concluded that this helps explain how we get great varieties of Dog out of on Grey Wolf: Pigment hormones are related to adrenaline & aggression...oh Eric's caught up...
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Cecile:

yes! That's what happened, Eric.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...also - dogs are like wolf cubs in behavior & traits like curled tails & such: Domestication generally is like Infantilization; applied to Homo Sapiens - that seems Nietzschean to me...
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Carmichael:

Eric the half a fox. He had an accident ....
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Caryn:

@RRN63: they say caffeine has an extreme effect on spiders. They get totally drunk on it, like humans on lots and lots of alcohol.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...INtoxicants should say: websearch says 'toxicants' are man-made, the natural ones are 'toxins'...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Arthropods don't even have 'brains' like mammals really - but a series of nerve bundles down their axis, if I understand correctly. Still !
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...well - wiki says not really - sorta...
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P-90:

We just had a long discussion about Belayev's Silver Fox experiment in a seminar at Columbia yesterday, funny coincidence. He strongly feels that his results support the theory that by selectively breeding the parent wolf species for obedience and sociality, we created the domesiticated dog by selecting for a suite of genotypes that cause the animal to eetain the qualities of a puppy into adulthood. The more "neotynous" the animal becomes with each new generation, fewer individuals develop the adult characteristcs of independence, aggression, etc; they retain the emotional state of a puppy sharing a den with its mother and siblings.
The significance of the other physical traits, like color variations, corkscrew-shaped tails etc. that are recessive and occor very rarely in the wild populations, which ghen appear very frequently in the "domesticated" experimental groups is that they demonstrate "linkage", i.e. the genes that code for those features are linked to the genes for the traits the experiment was breeding for, so they "inadvertantly" came to predominate along with the "obedience and sociality" genes. This is important because to understand natural selection, we have to understand that genes under selective pressure will carry other genes with them, even though those other genes are not themselves of particular benefit
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...off someone's old vinyl rekkid comp. (10"??)
- I taped Hilo Brown doing murder ballad 'Knoxville Girl' - much like this Everlys: must websearch...
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Brett:

Hey Kurt, play "Where the Wild Roses Grow" by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- &, P-90 - it happens quickly - selected in a few generations - & *that's* implications for all things Darwinian - ??...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...hYlo Brown...oh mighty internet...
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glenn:

i like the handsome family's version of knoxville girl.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

jeez Joanie sounds 17 y.o. ...
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glenn:

bullwinkle blues. news.nationalpost.com...
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Carmichael:

This version Silhouettes is the best by far.
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glenn:

and another nail in the coffin of prohibition. - www.cbc.ca...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

[heavy rural Tennessee accent]
-ah stahbbed her w/ a dagger
- which was a big ol' knife !
...'the death I fear to die
- they're going to hang me up so high
between the Earth & Sky'...

...unimpeachable rekkids these...
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Caryn:

@glenn: that'll teach them - never mess with a moody pregnant lady.
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fleep:

"Tired of his jive" is acceptable to this court. Not guilty. Case dismissed.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...mooses not yet bred for docility...
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glenn:

moose are vicious, they only look big and dopey. elk are worse.
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Caryn:

I prefer the Finnish version of "Teen Angel" to the Dinning original.
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Kurt Gottschalk:

i'd love to hear the finnish version, caryn!
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glenn:

dinning, finning.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Produced by Lee Hazelwood' - & how.
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Cecile:

this isn't a crime of passion song. this is a slaughter-because-we-thought-we-were-at-Terry-Melcher's-house-and-Charlie-was-mad-at-him song
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Caryn:

@Kurt: www.youtube.com...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- was thinking C'ec - &, honestly, thot we had early Nick Cave sorta by request for half a second...
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ät çpd:

yeah but it's a good slaughter-because-we-thought-we-were-at-Terry-Melcher's-house-and-Charlie-was-mad-at-him song
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ät çpd:

def one of my all time fave tunes.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- loves SY.
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glenn:

jeeez, i hope so too, kurt.
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Caryn:

Keeping my fingers crossed, Kurt.
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MenfussMike:

Hasil once played my house and threatened to kill everyone in it. shit you not
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ha ha !
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glenn:

didn't rusty kershaw once threaten to kill everybody at a neil young recording session? he was so crazy they thought he might do it too.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

: D < !
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glenn:

rusty invented honey slides too, so you'd think he'd be a little more mellow.
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LovecraftDude888:

Kojak Bang Bang Kojak!
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Whooda:

Ha Ha Bang Bang you French Vietnamese Gook!
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dale:

had to log on to say how gorgeous this korean (?) version is.
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dale:

vietnamese? love the morricone touches
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beastburn:

oof. this song sure takes a turn
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LovecraftDude888:

Dale..that cat looks intense....ready to bite me
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Whooda:

Vietnam the new Bollywood of the SE Asian peninsula.
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Carmichael:

Dang, I missed the Vietnamese version. Man, a guy can't even go to the bathroom anymore ....
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dale:

vanilla fudge sure do interesting covers.
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dale:

you sure this isn't 'that dirty clown?'
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Carmichael:

I love that over-the-top passion pop music they play in Viet restaurants. Worth the price of admission.
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dale:

peanut's a pussycat lovecraft. she's a special breed - inbreed.
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P-90:

@ carmichael: no, not any more
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dale:

no way vanilla fudge can do a song in under ten minutes.
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LovecraftDude888:

Dale..ok she just looks intense there
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I. Ron Butterfly:

I know, right?
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dale:

just looking for a cat treat is all
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P-90:

@Kurt: you saved the best for last!
thanks for everything, have a great 7 days,
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Caryn:

Bye all! Don't get killed!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Thx KG ! - & All for company.
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