WFMU: The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from June 18, 2015

Listener comments!
	6:01am Scott McDowell: yikes!
	6:01am pierre: Bonjour Scott!
	6:02am Scott McDowell: bonjour!
	6:03am duke: Good morning Scott, Pierre, and everyone.
	6:07am Guido from Cologne: Good morning Scott and people!
	6:13am Scott McDowell: Good morning one and all, welcome welcome.
	6:22am Guido from Cologne: I have this recording on an inofficial 80ies Italian pressing. It's European tour 1967 with "two Charlies" on two basses. Love this line-up. One of my faved O.C. albums.
	6:25am Guido from Cologne: "two charlies " was wrong. David Izenzon is playing bass arco. Love this.
	6:34am Scott McDowell: with Charles Moffett I imagine, around the Golden Circle recordings. Killer!
	6:44am duke: That was a pretty damn fantastic set.
	6:52am pierre: I've found "live at the golden circle" on blue note, in a garage sale. Great record. I also love the artwork. This picture is so classy
	6:57am Scott McDowell: oh good pick up! very suave on the cover.
	6:59am pierre: Yes. Suave, that's it !
	7:00am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Guten Tzag! Grand - Thx for this. Thinking how Ornette Coleman was a beacon for all Outside &/or Free players - including Coltrane - it's just huge. & he didn't just play nutty stuff for its' own sake - he freed Jazz - to be expressive w/ soul - to express joy, lament, & yes often to express & release the tension of the Modern & Post-Mod worlds. &, relating to that, it's apparent he was a humble sweety. It makes me less sad that he lived rather long, accomplished masses & was well-recognized.
	7:10am Scott McDowell: Do you think most people who are into art or culture have heard his music?
	7:19am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm not enuff part of any such culture to know! I'm sure people who like Jazz know. One aspect of him living that long is reflecting what it means that this music was controversial in the late 1950s/early 60s. Having my 'deepest roots' in Psychedelic Rock like Hendrix (& his Jazzy drummer) - I was ready for whatever Jazz had to throw @ me as far as 'Outside' stuff & pure Expression. Far as I know - I 1st heard 'Rambling' & 'Lonely Woman' on the big black box of LPs of the Smithsonian Classic Jazz collection. But whether people know Jazz or not, they've heard Rock influenced by Free players since the 1960s. Jazz is a commercial loser these days, honestly - but even though impact is not always direct, I think it's still real...
	7:27am Scott McDowell: Well one gets the sense from all of the mainstream kind of notice of his passing that everybody is at least aware of this figure as somewhat important, but I'm curious if that is accurate -- if at least the curious masses have heard his music.
	7:35am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I make a point of him being an expressive player - because I think when one 1st hears 'Lonely Woman' or 'Rambling' it's immediately apparent the strength of the emotion in what he did &how he did it - & people relate to that & remember it. Only a certain sort is going to dig some of Cecil Taylor's most extreme stuff? I have a theory that many Free players had roots in R&B & Gospel - Charlie Haden here in Country! - so a folksier & less formal expression is actually part of what Free is about - despite an image of being intellectual or high-concept...all this stuff people have said about Free from the start...
	7:43am Scott McDowell: Very true
	7:47am P-90: If I may, for what it's worth: No, I'm pretty sure the curious masses have not heard any of his work, simply as a matter of culture and demographics; Jazz once held a place in the popular consciousness such that there were a lot of people who wouldn't be considered "Jazz fans" who nevertheless would have had some sense of who the big names were and what they sounded like. Over the last four or five decades the cultural focus has shifted so much, and the content of the population has changed so much, that even a general familiarity with who's who and what's what in that world has become much, much more of a specialized, "niche" thing for a limited segment of enthusiasts. It's all off the radar for everyone else, by and large. Make sense?
	7:53am Scott McDowell: Right yeah I guess "masses" is the thing. Well for example I don't don't crap about modern dance but I know who Martha Graham or Merce Cunningham is and could probably have a conversation about them, I just wonder if Ornette is on that level with similarly curious open people of the world. I really don't know.
	7:54am Scott McDowell: Not that it matters one iota. Just been thinking of that when I read all this stuff over the last week on the occasion of his passing.
	7:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The nature & goals of the Contempo Pop40 market now are the opposite of Free - it is about reproducing the exact same pre-packaged Las Vegas song & dance gymnastic Performance every time. Jazz is museum stuff. On the other hand, Connectivity interwebz @ least has the potential of making better-informed & communicating it faster & w/ more penetration. I think some are just important enuff that the 'experts' make noise about it, & it gets picked up on in the feeds - which is what you're asking I guess...
	8:05am tino: you are what you play
	8:07am P-90: @Scott: Exactly! Ornette's name would be like Martha's or Merce's to culturally conversant folks like you (who are a minority outside of a couple of the boroughs of NY and similar scattered enclaves.) --But in this era when info and whole libraries of records are available to most people at the touch of a button, the news of his passing might stimulate a lot of folks to check him out and gain that passing familiarity we're talking about that's been lost.. And-- how "jazzed" must the guys in The Dead have been to perform with the legendary, uber-"cool" Ornette? Also: I've been curious whether some show on FMU is going to bring up James "Blood" Ulmer in the context of Ornette's passing, as a prominent disciple who's been doing his own thing with Harmolodics and carrying that torch for decades?
	8:12am Scott McDowell: @tino yes!
	8:13am Scott McDowell: @P-90 really good point re: James Blood Ulmer. I'm not well versed enough maybe in his music but it seems like one could go off in many directions from Ornette's music !!
	8:26am Cheri Pi: Heya McDowans!
	8:30am P-90: Why, it's C. Pi!
	8:33am Scott McDowell: hey CP!
	8:43am Tom G: Hey Scott! Soapsuds is such a beautiful record.
	8:45am Scott McDowell: Hey Tom G
	8:49am Tom G: I have had a copy of Ornette's "last" record for about a month now but haven't had a chance to listen yet, it's the one that just came out and the one he was in the process of suing over! It seems promising if not exactly worthy of being called his last record.
	8:53am Scott McDowell: yeah I have not heard that one. It's baffling that situation. I wonder what happened.

The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from June 18, 2015

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June 18, 2015: Ornette Coleman tribute show

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Grachan Moncur III	Hipnosis "Hipnosis" by "Grachan Moncur III"			0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	The Circle with a Hole in the Middle	Art of the Improvisors	Atlantic	0:11:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Jordan "Jordan" by "Ornette Coleman"	Sound Grammar		0:16:04 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Una Muy Bonita "Una Muy Bonita" by "Ornette Coleman"	Change of the Century	Atlantic	0:22:26 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	The Alchemy of Scott LaFaro	Art of the Improvisors	Atlantic	0:28:33 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Ornette Coleman	Faces and Places "Faces and Places" by "Ornette Coleman"	At the Golden Circle, Volume 1	Blue Note	0:48:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Voice Poetry "Voice Poetry" by "Ornette Coleman"	Body Meta		1:05:53 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Old and New Dreams	Lonely Woman "Lonely Woman" by "Old and New Dreams"	Old and New Dreams	ECM	1:07:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Charlie Haden	The Golden Number "The Golden Number" by "Charlie Haden"	The Golden Number	A&M	1:25:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman with The Master Musicians Of Jajouka	Midnight Sunrise	Dancing in Your Head		1:38:17 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Grateful Dead with Ornette Coleman	The Other One	Live at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum on 1993-02-23		1:42:47 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Ornette Coleman & Pat Metheny	Endangered Species	Song X		2:03:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Free Jazz, Part 2	Free Jazz		2:16:58 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Ornette Coleman	Some Day "Some Day" by "Ornette Coleman"	Soapsuds, Soapsuds	Artists House	2:39:31 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Beauty Is a Rare Thing	Beauty Is A Rare Thing: The Complete Atlantic Recordings	Rhino	2:47:08 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Lonely Woman "Lonely Woman" by "Ornette Coleman"	The Shape of Jazz to Come	Atlantic	2:54:27 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:01am Scott McDowell: yikes!
	6:01am pierre: Bonjour Scott!
	6:02am Scott McDowell: bonjour!
	6:03am duke: Good morning Scott, Pierre, and everyone.
	6:07am Guido from Cologne: Good morning Scott and people!
	6:13am Scott McDowell: Good morning one and all, welcome welcome.
	6:22am Guido from Cologne: I have this recording on an inofficial 80ies Italian pressing. It's European tour 1967 with "two Charlies" on two basses. Love this line-up. One of my faved O.C. albums.
	6:25am Guido from Cologne: "two charlies " was wrong. David Izenzon is playing bass arco. Love this.
	6:34am Scott McDowell: with Charles Moffett I imagine, around the Golden Circle recordings. Killer!
	6:44am duke: That was a pretty damn fantastic set.
	6:52am pierre: I've found "live at the golden circle" on blue note, in a garage sale. Great record. I also love the artwork. This picture is so classy
	6:57am Scott McDowell: oh good pick up! very suave on the cover.
	6:59am pierre: Yes. Suave, that's it !
	7:00am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Guten Tzag! Grand - Thx for this. Thinking how Ornette Coleman was a beacon for all Outside &/or Free players - including Coltrane - it's just huge. & he didn't just play nutty stuff for its' own sake - he freed Jazz - to be expressive w/ soul - to express joy, lament, & yes often to express & release the tension of the Modern & Post-Mod worlds. &, relating to that, it's apparent he was a humble sweety. It makes me less sad that he lived rather long, accomplished masses & was well-recognized.
	7:10am Scott McDowell: Do you think most people who are into art or culture have heard his music?
	7:19am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm not enuff part of any such culture to know! I'm sure people who like Jazz know. One aspect of him living that long is reflecting what it means that this music was controversial in the late 1950s/early 60s. Having my 'deepest roots' in Psychedelic Rock like Hendrix (& his Jazzy drummer) - I was ready for whatever Jazz had to throw @ me as far as 'Outside' stuff & pure Expression. Far as I know - I 1st heard 'Rambling' & 'Lonely Woman' on the big black box of LPs of the Smithsonian Classic Jazz collection. But whether people know Jazz or not, they've heard Rock influenced by Free players since the 1960s. Jazz is a commercial loser these days, honestly - but even though impact is not always direct, I think it's still real...
	7:27am Scott McDowell: Well one gets the sense from all of the mainstream kind of notice of his passing that everybody is at least aware of this figure as somewhat important, but I'm curious if that is accurate -- if at least the curious masses have heard his music.
	7:35am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I make a point of him being an expressive player - because I think when one 1st hears 'Lonely Woman' or 'Rambling' it's immediately apparent the strength of the emotion in what he did &how he did it - & people relate to that & remember it. Only a certain sort is going to dig some of Cecil Taylor's most extreme stuff? I have a theory that many Free players had roots in R&B & Gospel - Charlie Haden here in Country! - so a folksier & less formal expression is actually part of what Free is about - despite an image of being intellectual or high-concept...all this stuff people have said about Free from the start...
	7:43am Scott McDowell: Very true
	7:47am P-90: If I may, for what it's worth: No, I'm pretty sure the curious masses have not heard any of his work, simply as a matter of culture and demographics; Jazz once held a place in the popular consciousness such that there were a lot of people who wouldn't be considered "Jazz fans" who nevertheless would have had some sense of who the big names were and what they sounded like. Over the last four or five decades the cultural focus has shifted so much, and the content of the population has changed so much, that even a general familiarity with who's who and what's what in that world has become much, much more of a specialized, "niche" thing for a limited segment of enthusiasts. It's all off the radar for everyone else, by and large. Make sense?
	7:53am Scott McDowell: Right yeah I guess "masses" is the thing. Well for example I don't don't crap about modern dance but I know who Martha Graham or Merce Cunningham is and could probably have a conversation about them, I just wonder if Ornette is on that level with similarly curious open people of the world. I really don't know.
	7:54am Scott McDowell: Not that it matters one iota. Just been thinking of that when I read all this stuff over the last week on the occasion of his passing.
	7:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The nature & goals of the Contempo Pop40 market now are the opposite of Free - it is about reproducing the exact same pre-packaged Las Vegas song & dance gymnastic Performance every time. Jazz is museum stuff. On the other hand, Connectivity interwebz @ least has the potential of making better-informed & communicating it faster & w/ more penetration. I think some are just important enuff that the 'experts' make noise about it, & it gets picked up on in the feeds - which is what you're asking I guess...
	8:05am tino: you are what you play
	8:07am P-90: @Scott: Exactly! Ornette's name would be like Martha's or Merce's to culturally conversant folks like you (who are a minority outside of a couple of the boroughs of NY and similar scattered enclaves.) --But in this era when info and whole libraries of records are available to most people at the touch of a button, the news of his passing might stimulate a lot of folks to check him out and gain that passing familiarity we're talking about that's been lost.. And-- how "jazzed" must the guys in The Dead have been to perform with the legendary, uber-"cool" Ornette? Also: I've been curious whether some show on FMU is going to bring up James "Blood" Ulmer in the context of Ornette's passing, as a prominent disciple who's been doing his own thing with Harmolodics and carrying that torch for decades?
	8:12am Scott McDowell: @tino yes!
	8:13am Scott McDowell: @P-90 really good point re: James Blood Ulmer. I'm not well versed enough maybe in his music but it seems like one could go off in many directions from Ornette's music !!
	8:26am Cheri Pi: Heya McDowans!
	8:30am P-90: Why, it's C. Pi!
	8:33am Scott McDowell: hey CP!
	8:43am Tom G: Hey Scott! Soapsuds is such a beautiful record.
	8:45am Scott McDowell: Hey Tom G
	8:49am Tom G: I have had a copy of Ornette's "last" record for about a month now but haven't had a chance to listen yet, it's the one that just came out and the one he was in the process of suing over! It seems promising if not exactly worthy of being called his last record.
	8:53am Scott McDowell: yeah I have not heard that one. It's baffling that situation. I wonder what happened.

The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from June 18, 2015

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