WFMU: Brian Turner: Playlist from May 24, 2016

Listener comments!
	3:05pm Carmichael: OK, strapped in, ears on.
	3:06pm geezerette: MT Platapus
	3:06pm mariano: Great start!
	3:07pm Michael 98145: Pere Ubu – Non-Alignment Pact
	3:08pm Cliff: My ears are always on.
	3:09pm coelacanth: sweet! i taped this performance and i still listen to that tape!
	3:11pm 2904ConTO: oooooo, nice transition!
	3:12pm Cliff: ZEP
	3:13pm Cliff: ....with somebody blowin' their nose??
	3:13pm mrdonutsu: Speaking of Flights of the Behemoth!
	3:14pm JP from KC: Is that something dying in the background, there?
	3:14pm Carmichael: I've heard so many covers of this that I failed to recognize the original ...
	3:14pm mrdonutsu: Sad woodchuck?
	3:14pm mariano: What's that groaning in the background? Or is it just me?
	3:14pm Dean: Audience recording. Probably the NYT rock critic at the time.
	3:14pm coelacanth: -not dying fast enough.
	3:14pm 2904ConTO: damn son. got it TURNed up. like the woodchuck
	3:15pm Michael 98145: lonely bonobo
	3:15pm JP from KC: Well, I can't say it's not working...
	3:15pm Cliff: Dude must have some serious allergies
	3:15pm geezerette: shirtless man singing falsetto, I'm laughing as I swoon.
	3:16pm mariano: Sounds like whoever it is, is seriously getting off on the music and whatever s/he's on!
	3:16pm geezerette: God they were silly. But great.
	3:17pm 2904ConTO: the sound of Zep when they listen to their later catalog
	3:17pm geezerette: Great segue! Preach it Billy!
	3:17pm Cliff: That worked real well, Brian
	3:17pm JP from KC: 2904ConTO wins.
	3:18pm 2904ConTO: aw, shucks
	3:18pm Cliff: We all get special awards for participating
	3:19pm steveo: Are you saying that Burroughs was a savage?
	3:20pm Cliff: (...what do they call those? The ones they hand out to the millenial soccer players for showing up to the game)
	3:20pm geezerette: Inside Brian's Brain,it's funny in here! Plenty of room too.
	3:20pm mariano: Macho Man William Burroughs
	3:20pm sphere: "cup of coffee in the morning, man!"
	3:20pm 2904ConTO: Orange slices
	3:21pm Nucosme: Macho Man!... Hello everyone.it's been awhile and sporadic in here for me
	3:21pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sup.
	3:21pm mariano: If it were just a transcript it would be indistinguishable from a Trump campaign speech.
	3:21pm Nucosme: Sup Rev
	3:22pm Cliff: Or I guess it's post-millenials by now
	3:22pm 2904ConTO: The full Orange goes to Mariano
	3:22pm geezerette: R.I.P. Rob Ford.
	3:24pm mariano: Thanks 2904ConTO!
	3:24pm JP from KC: Seriously, 2904ConTO, you're on fire today.. "orange slices." Also, they're called participation trophies, Cliff. I got a few of those. I usually either threw them away immediately, or just left them at the event where I got them. Even as a kid, I knew they were a load of crap.
	3:26pm sphere: i was always "most improved."
	3:26pm 2904ConTO: Fire sign Fire Sign. Cup of coffee in the morning man. I am maligned. Brain Turner
	3:27pm geezerette: Honorable mention. Most depressing ribbon.
	3:27pm Cliff: Yep yep yep, participation trophies. My verbal recall has been a bit off since listening to Mayuko last night
	3:31pm Cliff: vodka wo nomu ato no tanjoubi wo oboeru no wa chotto taihen de shou ne
	3:33pm Cliff: (Could be worse, at least I'm not tryin' to type at you all in Lojban)
	3:34pm 2904ConTO: this is what i listen to when tossing salad
	3:35pm JP from KC: I hate that I'm technically considered a "Millenial." As a child born in the late 80's I'm lumped into the category, but I see those years as the transitional period between generations. I know some people who were born around the same time I was that are true millenials, but there are still a lot, like me, who identify much more closely with "Generation X."
	3:36pm Cliff: Huh, and I thought I was borderline Gen-X, being born in '78. What's the official Millenial cutoff year?
	3:37pm JP from KC: I think Millenials are those born post-1985.
	3:37pm Cliff: (Btw, I did some calendrical calculations once and figured out that Debbie Boone's "You Light Up My Life" would've been the #1 hit on the date of my conception)
	3:37pm Chris from DC: Waiting for a Ric Flair tape.
	3:38pm Cliff: JP - I thought it was 1980. Though I have a friend born a week after me who thinks it was 1976!
	3:38pm Nucosme: Better learn to love it!
	3:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid: For the wonky demographers amongst us, those generational categories are getting more refined (finally), into early & late halves, since there are such huge differences between early & late GenX data, etc... As for what the years are anymore, no idea...
	3:38pm JP from KC: Wikipedia says it's early 80s to 2000. Gen X is early 60s to early 80s.
	3:39pm geezerette: thought "millenial" cutoff was 1980
	3:39pm 2904ConTO: i was on a flight w ric flair to las vegas either last year or 2 years ago. is he dead?
	3:39pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [so says the old fart]
	3:40pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [technically known as 'generation fart']
	3:40pm Polyus: Need a Dusty Rhodes tape, daddy.
	3:40pm хтinа: That Macho Man clip really made my day! Thanks Brian! Uh oh discussion about millennials, gotta run :/ :/ :/ :/
	3:41pm Cliff: What's the cutoff year for Generation Fart? When they stopped pressing 78's?
	3:41pm Nucosme: Drive by Jehu. Only time I saw them I didn't know who they were. Opened up for Superchunk @ Galaxy Club in Dallas
	3:42pm JP from KC: I think the Generation Fart cutoff is, you have to be old enough to remember where you were when JFK was assassinated.
	3:42pm Chris from DC: Nah, Ric's still here far as I know.
	3:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'Wound! ...was just spinning the lovely Dark Fat release earlier. One for the ages.
	3:44pm Michael 98145: @JP, it's when you have 45 rpm adapters older than most folks around you
	3:44pm geezerette: We don't have to accept advertising-industry- generational-branding-for purposes-of-marketing. OK; I will shut up now.
	3:45pm 2904ConTO: he looked good at baggage claim.
	3:45pm Cliff: So what's the term for 78s then, Generation Cadaver Gas?
	3:46pm Cliff: MAC would know.
	3:48pm JP from KC: @Michael 98145: That's a good indicator. on a related note, As someone who knows what a 45 adapter is, I think I should be exempt from the "Millenial" category. I hereby declare myself a Gen X outlier.
	3:48pm Cliff: JP, you seem hip to our jive. We'll let you in.
	3:48pm Rev. Turnip Druid: god this is lovely.
	3:50pm Lyle: William Burroughs, there was a weirdo. I was more fond of his brother, Edgar Rice Burroughs and his wonderful Tarzan books. Of course, I was a brief drinking partner of Johnny Weismuller. This was in his telephone pole climbing period of some embarrassment back in, what? The late 50's? I recall I was playing soprano trombone with Xavier Cugat at that time, and I spent most of MY time playing nanny to a very immature Charro, who was married to Xavier and was so completely bored with his orchestra and his artwork that she was about to break free and enjoy her own brand of hoochie-coochie success. Weismuller on the other hand was downward spiraling fast. I coaxed him off many a pole on that tour as he followed us from city to city, often taunting Xavier from the wings. They were not friends. Eventually, Johhny fell froma pole in Elk Horn, Wisconsin and cracked his coccyx. Very painful indeed. Cugat laughed as they loaded Johnny in the ambulance, and that was the last we saw of him. I left Cugat to briefly join Charro's band. but that didn't last long. Her folky brand of acoustic music didn't much need my trombone stylings. I would soon find better fortunes with John Gary and his wonderful, if poorly appreciated, small orchestra. I sometimes can still hear him sing Yellow Bird if I shut my eyes tightly enough.
	3:51pm JP from KC: Thanks, cliff. I presume my blood-signing documents, instructions on the secret knock and location of the clubhouse, and my complimentary football phone will arrive via parcel.
	3:53pm Dean: Charro? Any relation to Charo? Did she roll her r's even more emphatically?
	3:53pm Kevin: Is that mendrugo record out? I cant find any mention of it on the net
	3:58pm Cecile: I think a lot of it has to do with where you grow up, birth order, parents background. In some ways, I'm a Traditionalist, and the calendar says I'm a Baby Boomer, but I probably relate most to Gen Xers (I was born in 1961).
	3:58pm coelacanth: geezerette @3:44 Bah-h-hd sheep! Michael @3:44 uh oh...
	3:59pm Cliff: Edgar Rice Burroughs, brother of William S. Oh, Lyle, you're such a cut-up.
	3:59pm 2904ConTO: Weismuller...classic wisco surname
	4:00pm Cliff: Obama's technically a Baby Boomer too, but he seems to have more of a Gen-X sensibility IMO
	4:02pm Cliff: JP, dude, we can't be bothered with any of that shit. Too much hassle.
	4:06pm coelacanth: Lyle's been hittin' the hooch today.
	4:06pm JP from KC: Ah, Cliff! Now there's that Generation X spirit! You guys were apathetic before it was cool.
	4:07pm Cliff: Char(r)o can be seen doin' the cuchi-cuchi on my favorites page! (Warning: takes a while to load)
	4:08pm will rodgers: nice call on the DJ Krush, Brian!
	4:09pm Cliff: Whatev, JP.
	4:10pm coelacanth: to go to YOUR institutional learning facilities?
	4:10pm mrdonutsu: I remember Charo storming out of the building when I worked at the Landsburg Company (known for such entertainment classics as That's Incredible, Jaws 3D, etc., etc.) in 1985. "Very bad meeting. Very bad people..."
	4:10pm melinda: @JP: there should be no shame in being a millennial, the older generation always bitches about the younger ones. They did it to Gen X before we got older.
	4:11pm Carmichael: I'm a baby boomer, and I can't stand any of y'all ...
	4:12pm 2904ConTO: Self Empowerment. I can smell it!
	4:12pm JakeGould: SAVE THE CHILDREN!
	4:12pm Cliff: Brian, you're on fire today
	4:13pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Sam & Joe for president of everything IN OUR LIFETIME.
	4:13pm coelacanth: Carmichael, is that a 110 instamatic?!
	4:13pm geezerette: coel, ;) The generation thing is just about being old enough to replace yourself. There's the age at which nature says you're ready and the time when most of your friends seem to be proceeding. Realistically it's between about 18 to 35. You can do it earlier or later but that's the optimal window. Nature's done with you after that. Everybody Dance Now!
	4:14pm Rev. Turnip Druid: SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMACK.
	4:15pm Cliff: SUMAC SUMAC SUMAC
	4:15pm Chris from DC: This.
	4:16pm chris: \m/
	4:18pm Cecile: I saw Sumac open for Neurosis, they were good, but a whole set was a lot. Not a lot of variety, but yay for being a co-ed band!
	4:19pm Cliff: Neurosis! I haven't listened to them in forever.
	4:19pm steve: i came here to say "that last guy for president" and Rev beat me to it
	4:19pm common: diggin the sumac. sounds like a great show, cecile!
	4:19pm Cecile: Obama was born the year I was. And had a different, but similarly chaotic upbringing.
	4:20pm Cecile: It was. I gotta say that Sumac's bass got you right in the gut. And Neurosis are incomparable.
	4:20pm Cecile: I like you too, Carm.
	4:21pm Cliff: I let a lot of my music sense lapse for those 6-1/2 years I was working at a soul-crushing corporate job. Now that I'm unemployed I've had some time to rediscover it all.
	4:23pm Cliff: Also I sympathize a lot with the plight of the Millenials, having finished grad school in 2009 just in time for there to be no jobs anymore
	4:23pm 2904ConTO: Generation Logan's Run
	4:25pm mariano: Nice War Pigs-style air-raid sirens.
	4:29pm Cheri Pi: back from 2 hour mind numbing meeting, yaghhhhh, release the kraken!
	4:30pm chris: head gnodding to gnod. gnice.
	4:30pm mariano: Pray for Gnod's blessings, Cheri!
	4:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Time for some mind-numbing beer, Cheri?
	4:31pm Cliff: Cheri! otsukaresama deshita!
	4:32pm Cecile: I'm a Traditionalist in that I stay with things prolly longer than I should, and make a lot of backup plans.
	4:33pm Rev. Turnip Druid: kraken roaming at will.
	4:33pm Cheri Pi: I'm counting the seconds Ken
	4:33pm geezerette: Millennials absolutely got screwed by predatory student debt. Not imagining the injustice of that. Jobs are disappearing for everyone. OK, I really need to shut up!!!
	4:34pm 2904ConTO: Sick Drummah
	4:36pm Cecile: No, I agree. Loans slowed me down a lot, but I also benefitted from some more grants than they have now.
	4:36pm Cecile: 1987? That was smoking!
	4:43pm mariano: The GG Allin Murder Junkies?!? Damn.
	4:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: insect ark!
	4:45pm mariano: Cecile: class of '87, high school here! Almost mis-typed "lass of '87" which I most certainly wasn't :(
	4:45pm Jeff: Clearly 5chimpfluch Grupp3 is just trying to trip up DJs with their silent "5". Or is it silent? And how is a 3 at the end of a word pronunciated? They're just being mean.
	4:46pm 2904ConTO: wish my job could be just listening to all of that live music.
	4:48pm Cliff: Jeff - maybe it's l33t spelling? 5=S, 3=E
	4:49pm Cecile: I was 1987 grad from college. And that was returning after about a three year break.
	4:49pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Haven't heard Lost Themes II yet; sounds superior to the first...
	4:50pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [assessment of the first = 57% lovely, 43% less so]
	4:51pm steve: i rented Dark Star. watched the first few mins and was so confused by how non Carpenter it seemed. may try again tonight.
	4:53pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Longtime fan of Dark Star. Dan O'Bannon totally makes it. Also being a complete geek for all things Alien (first film only), it's a must.
	4:53pm Chris from DC: The Mad!
	4:54pm common: agreed rev!
	4:54pm Andrew Waterloo: I love Dark Star. i saw it ages it was I a kid and spent years tracking it down again.
	4:54pm Cecile: It was a student film. We were so into that movie when we were in late HS/College. Dan O'Bannon, who was in Dark Star, helped design the first Alien movie. So my husband had did quite a few Dark Star/Alien crossover comics.
	4:54pm Cecile: Benson Arizona, the warm wind through your hair, my body flies the galaxies, my heart longs to be there...
	4:55pm Andrew Waterloo: Dan O'Bannon also got to Alien after designing Jodorowsky's Dune
	4:56pm Cecile: www.youtube.com...
	4:56pm Cecile: his death was a real loss.
	4:57pm Cecile: Pinback was the name of an indie band, wonder if it was inspired by Dark Star?
	4:57pm steve: ill give it another shot. looked beautiful, but i couldnt tell what was going on for the first 15 mins...
	4:58pm steve: i had the same Pinback thought! nice.
	4:58pm Cecile: It perks up a little about 20 minutes in.
	4:58pm Michael 98145: Heh. Rubber Mate; great band name.
	4:59pm mariano: Thought he was singing "hard liquor."
	4:59pm mrdonutsu: And now, 3hrs of meetings...
	5:00pm geezerette: "They Live" is good too. A great/bad movie about Reagan/Thatcher paranoia. Brilliant story device featuring Rolex watches and X-Ray specs,(glasses,not band). 1988.
	5:02pm Cliff: geezerette - For some reason I'm reminded of the "Gentlemen, synchronize Swatches!" bit from Parker Lewis Can't Lose 8)
	5:03pm Cecile: I loved Parker Lewis. I think you can pick it up pretty cheap on DVD now. "I'm going to direct my own Malcolm Ten!"
	5:04pm common: @geezerette: that flick has the longest fight scene ever. so silly. just when you think they are finished, they start fighting again.
	5:04pm steve: hell yeah. They Live is tied for my all time fav movie. perfect film.
	5:05pm geezerette: Cliff, that's funny! Swatches were a thing. Malcom ten!!!:D
	5:05pm Cliff: That and The Adventures of Pete & Pete were my favs in high school (Luscious Jackson played one time on the latter!)
	5:06pm Cliff: geezerette, I wanted a calculator watch SO BAD when I was in the 5th grade
	5:08pm geezerette: common, some really bad acting which somehow works! steve, definitely on my list.
	5:08pm Carmichael: @coel: why yes, a 110 Instamatic. Took some of my best pictures ever using one.
	5:09pm JP from KC: @Cliff: I LOVED "...Pete & Pete" when I was a kid. All the weird/creepy shows appealed to me. I also really liked "Are you Afraid of the Dark?" and "Eerie Indiana."
	5:09pm Cecile: I kind of miss flash cubes.
	5:10pm Cecile: I did a fake seed packet for class where the seed company was located in Eerie, Indiana
	5:11pm Cliff: I have Daria The Movie on DVD.
	5:11pm Carmichael: I'm sure there's been a band called the Flash Cubes.
	5:11pm steve: love Pete & Pete. little Pete was on Dave Hill a while ago, can't remember what he was plugging. think he's in a touring indie rock band.
	5:12pm JP from KC: Daria was one of my favorites, too.
	5:12pm mariano: @Cliff: a few years back when I lived in Carroll Gardens, Gabrielle from Luscious Jackson lived up the street, really sweet person. Come to think of it, haven't seen her in years, should look her up.
	5:13pm 2904ConTO: i like the funk element of this song. strange combos
	5:13pm geezerette: Cliff, it cracks me up that now when we don't need them; watches are bigger, heavier, and can do more unnecessary non-temporal things than ever! And are bigger status symbols than anytime since their invention!
	5:14pm Cliff: The best episode of You Can't Do That On Television was when they were taken over by the Soviets. The green slime bit whenever anybody said "I don't know" mysteriously stopped working, but anyone who said the word "free" got hit with red slime. Of course, "water" still got you water, that's the same under capitalism or communism.
	5:14pm Andrew Waterloo: I will never forget the day I found They Live and Repo Man on a cheap DVD rack.
	5:15pm mariano: I'm more of a Beavis & Butthead fan. Was rewatching some of their music vid commentaries, there's a great one where they're watching a vintage Sabbath clip doing Iron Man. Since it was in the 90s, Beavis asks: "Are these guys from Seattle?" and Butthead answers "No assmunch, they're American!" Also, for the Clash "Should I Stay" live video, they come to the conclusion that Mick Jones is Seinfeld, which, to be fair, he does in that clip.
	5:15pm Cliff: geezerette - Know what you mean! Apple sure is tryin' their darndest to bring them back in style (and not exactly succeeding yet)
	5:16pm mariano: *does look like, I meant to say. Speaking of Soviet episodes, remember the Soviet pirate episode of SCTV, 3CPTV?
	5:17pm coelacanth: i still have my swatch, for sentimental reasons. i only wore a watch for a few years to try to make a particular woman happy...but it is by far one of the coolest looking watches. simple, white hands, black body,black face, no numbers and some kind of golden ratio spiral on the face. cool.
	5:18pm melinda: Beavis and Butthead were unfairly maligned.
	5:18pm Carmichael: Was just gonna mention SCTV, Mariano. They did the morning show Today is Moscow, and a political dogma show called What Fits Into Russia? "Answer: EVERYTHING!"
	5:18pm Cliff: mariano - Is this Nicaragua?! Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heheh. Heheheheheh. Heh. Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heheheh. Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heh.
	5:18pm geezerette: Cliff, have you noticed how many full page ads for watches as big as your head are in all the "aspirational",(expensive)magazines? It's really funny!
	5:20pm Cliff: geezerette, I'm on a fixed budget, I can't afford those fancy-schmancy magamaziiines!!
	5:20pm Cecile: I loved Beavis and Butthead.
	5:20pm geezerette: I loved Ren & Stimpy.
	5:20pm Cliff: I HATED Ren & Stimpy. Poop.
	5:21pm Cecile: I only liked "Log" from Ren and Stimpy.
	5:21pm coelacanth: Carmichael, i too got some great shots with a 110. it had a telephoto lens, but it was no good for anything closer than about 8'. good for portraits of ornamental trees though.
	5:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...being Nov63 - the 'Boomers' was the demographic of a Boom in BirthRates that reportedly extended into early '64 - yet the Icons of GenX were born mid-1960s - so I always felt on the Cusp of Boomers & Xers. Gratified if I'm well in as a GenXer, really...But otherwise - an in-betweener on the other side of Xers... Buuut : As an Astrology Enthusiast...the positions of the slower Outer Planets are often correlated to differentiating Age Groups. (For example - when I was born - a Conjunction - a coming together - of Uranus & Pluto in Virgo correlating to Revolutions in Class & Civil issues & Technical things - w/ Neptune in Scorpio...too much to get into...) The very word 'Generations' is slippery if you wanna put it under a microscope. What is a 'Generation'? 30 Years? ...Loves Ren&Stimpy. Invader Zim too.
	5:23pm geezerette: Cliff, me either but I flip through them at news stands. :) They were gross but the animation is insane and hilarious. & yeah,the Log!
	5:23pm JP from KC: Powdered Toast Man was also a good Ren & Stimpy bit.
	5:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yeah, see...
	5:24pm mariano: @Cliff: those laughs still get me! @Carmichael: yes, "What Fits Into Russia," classic! Also John Candy in "Hey Gyorgy" -- "Look - Uzbeks have drunk your battery fluid!"
	5:24pm steve: anyone know where i can watch full Beavis and Buttheads, videos and all? see the video-stripped episodes are on Hulu.
	5:24pm Cliff: My stepdad was entertaining my aunt & uncle one time and talking about how it was a coincidence that his neighbor grew up in Neptune, New Jersey, just 5 miles away from where he grew up. I said, "Where was that, Uranus?" Everyone plotzed.
	5:25pm Andrew Waterloo: The videos were the best part of Beavis and butthead.
	5:25pm Cecile: Invader Zim was awesome. RevRab, some demographers call late boomers "Generation Jones" (longing for either side of the fence)
	5:25pm Cliff: (Sorry RevRabbit, that's just about all the astronomy I know ;)
	5:25pm geezerette: HaHa!!! :D
	5:26pm Cliff: (Err, astrology, even!)
	5:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: I like most of the cartoon programs mentioned here. I liked Aeon Flux on MTV, too. At first, I didn't like The Head, but in time, I grew to enjoy that, too.
	5:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& - Uranus correlates to rebellion & sometimes even perversion - so... ...Beavis & Buttheads critical 'reviews' of videos - that's the thing... Cecile that's great! I think we're a thing...
	5:27pm coelacanth: the whole notion of a generation applying to any group of people beyond a specific family is a bunch of bullshit. so....shenanigans.
	5:27pm Matt in Hillsborough: steve if you do torrents looks up the "King Turd" collection for (practically) complete beaver and butt-munch episodes
	5:27pm Cecile: Someone in a seminar was saying "oh, Xers saw recession, job loss, divorce, limited career options" and I said, "so did I". Being from a Rust Belt state is like being an instant Gen Xer in a lot of ways.
	5:28pm Cliff: Absolutely, coelacanth. Me and my siblings straddle the official Gen-X/Millenial cutoff, but we're certainly not in different "generations".
	5:28pm Cecile: Coel, I think it's ok on a very general level, but usually this data is used to divide and conquer.
	5:28pm mariano: Yeah, Andrew: thankfully you can still find them on YouTube, since because of licensing issues they can't include the vids in the DVD releases. They could say the most spot-on funny things about videos.
	5:29pm Michael 98145: one of my first CD purchases was a Glenn Branca
	5:30pm Cliff: Mayuko was playing Glenn Branca last night too. I really need to check him out
	5:30pm Ken From Hyde Park: After some kid torched his family's house and blamed it on Beavis, their video comments would include "Liar, liar" or "Higher, higher" because they promised not to mention fire anymore.
	5:31pm Cliff: Cecile, being a Gen-Xer from the Rust Belt is a double-whammy!
	5:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Generation labels are obviously a vast Generalization. Don't lose the trees for the forest when it comes to Individuals. Many classic Boomers had short hair & horn rim glasses & loved Murica...yerknow whatever...On the other hand - totally identify w/ GenX career & financial stuff. The 'X' is meant to imply a forgotten or misplaced group... This Branca is the stuff.
	5:33pm Cecile: Actually, Douglas Coupland was just using the X because X is a variable - he didn't want to name the generation anything. It's the same as "blank generation", Hell didn't want to say "blank generation", he wanted to say "____________ generation"
	5:33pm Cecile: Branca is great. I saw him live once, it was so loud and powerful.
	5:34pm Cecile: RevRab, the silent majority had a lot of Boomers in it!
	5:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Cecile: Right. Almost the same. ...Altho' the 1st wave of original Punks were - Boomers. ('Blank Gen' the song is a reworking of a tune about the Beat Generation.) That then to RTD's point about breaking up the big labels into sub-groups - certainly the PostWar Baby Boom that went on for some time...
	5:35pm geezerette: I'm an animation nerd,so that colors my outlook. B&W early Fleischer Popeyes are still radical and insane,also great music and muttering by Jack Mercer. I920's Felix the Cat also great. Youtube has some of this stuff. Goes well with shrooms I'm sure.
	5:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @geezerette: I marvel sometimes how the 20thCent. recedes - for one thing seeing Hollywood Golden Age cartoons on TV all the time - my faves the lavish surreal ones where whole gardens or shops would come to life...stuff younger folk aren't seeing now...
	5:38pm Cliff: I find it amusing that Andy Summers was in a band who put out a song called "Born In The '50s".
	5:39pm Cliff: geeezerette - I actually HATE watching TV on shrooms, when the ads come on it's a real drag and they seem to go on forever
	5:39pm Cecile: that was a big deal. I remember some slightly older co-workers being amazed I grew up in a world where the Beatles, rock 'n' roll and television already existed.
	5:40pm mariano: There is that line in "Blank Generation" where he says "I belong to the ____ generation"
	5:40pm coelacanth: true, Rabbit. i think because my parents, while being strict and disciplinary in some ways, gave us lots of freedom in others, i grew up fast and didn't get indoctrinated the same as many boomers. i listened to steppenwolf while my friends watched hogan's heroes...but somehow i relate to both the boomers and the Xes.
	5:40pm Cecile: Yep, exactly, mariano.
	5:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Here's some heavy Astrological take on it... : philosopherswheel.com...
	5:41pm Scraps deSelby: Pinback certainly was named after the movie. In the first EP (I think), they had a snippet of the film. Plus -- whoops, my social worker is here. More to come--
	5:41pm miketp: Azna is alrite
	5:42pm Cecile: my parents were about as far from hippies or hipsters as you could get. I didn't really get into pop music seriously until I was 15.
	5:42pm geezerette: The Rust Belt was an early warning. Yeah RevRab, you're talking Fleischer and Warners. Great imaginations and craft in those places. Children need that.
	5:42pm Cliff: RevRabbit, thanks for that link, looks like a good read!
	5:42pm Cecile: But I know a ton of country and easy listening stuff that people who grew up listening to rock didn't necessarily know.
	5:43pm Cheri Pi: That Branca was off th' chain [delayed reaction]
	5:44pm Dean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X_%281965_book%29
	5:44pm JakeGould: R.I.P. Burt Kwouk! He was Cato in the Pink Panther films. https://youtu.be/OC5Ldo1DjGk
	5:44pm melinda: I liked Budi Bahasa.
	5:45pm Cheri Pi: My mom at her birthday dinner admitted to exposing her young to the Eagles :(
	5:45pm Cecile: That is surely a sore spot between you and her, isn't it, Pi.
	5:46pm coelacanth: my parents were pretty alright, when i consider it now. during the vietnam war they constructed a giant, lighted peace-sign christmas wreath for the front of the house. this was many years before one could buy such a thing.
	5:46pm Cliff: Dean - Ha! The original Gen-X were the Mods. That kinda makes a lotta sense actually.
	5:47pm Scraps deSelby: Rob Crow of Pinback -- who is awesome -- has lyrics around science fiction movies.
	5:47pm Cheri Pi: it's taken a lifetime to heal, and robbed us of a proper relationship .
	5:47pm coelacanth: but yeah, my did listened to mostly horrible schmaltz, and my mother didn't like "noise in the house".
	5:47pm Cecile: well, great convo, but gotta go! Have a great evening everyone.
	5:48pm Cecile: hahahahaha pi.
	5:48pm geezerette: Oh Cliff man I would never suggest that. Dvds & streaming only, and only if you think of those cartoons as worlds you enjoy. Natures the best if you're somewhere beautiful right?
	5:48pm Cliff: I promise not to ask Ken again tomorrow morning to do an hour of Hotel California remixes
	5:48pm coelacanth: ciao Cecile
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: One thing already has the seed of the next. Punk was Post-Modern in many senses - which implies a precedent of Modernism (Mods). (The nascent Pistols turning the Small Faces' 'I want you to know that I love you baby' into 'hate you baby'...) Something come to Fullness becomes its' Opposite.
	5:49pm MenfussMike: that guitar is SICK!
	5:49pm Cliff: geezerette - Yep, I always have to get some time outdoors during a trip ;) Thanks fer the show Brian, and the scintillating conversation everybody!
	5:50pm common: eagles=headache...for me. the birds and the band.
	5:51pm geezerette: Brian, stellar show! Thanks always!
	5:52pm JakeGould: My dad was more upset at John Lennon dying than I was but mainly listened to Vladmir Horowitz playing Chopin.
	5:52pm Scraps deSelby: Rob Crow has several bands, current and past; very good ones include Heavy Vegetable and Optiganally Yours, plus Rob Crow solo
	5:52pm miketp: John carpenter. Here in Portland. June 15 schnitzer hall. Performing themes from film nothers
	5:52pm Michael 98145: Have a good time in Catalonia
	5:53pm Brian Turner: Thanks all, see ya soon
	5:53pm Dean: I listened yesterday to Linda Ronstadt's recording of "Desperado," credited on the label to Don Henley and Glen Fry! The Eagles (band) make me want to barf, but I don't mind Linda's traversal of the tune.
	5:54pm Dean: Youri Egorov died way too young. Damn, his Chopin was good.
	5:54pm Scraps deSelby: The Eagles know their way around hooks, though
	5:56pm coelacanth: Thanks Brian! Excellent program.
	5:56pm JakeGould: Eagles weren't bad for what they did. Stop hating.
	5:59pm Cliff: Eagles are alright, JakeGould. Was only kidding ;)
	9:59am wkg1955: first time listener....great...Dr Nod!

Brian Turner: Playlist from May 24, 2016

Order and disorder in a freeform haze of terribly-played guitars, shorted-out electronics, found audio detritus, strange sounds from strange lands all around. Psych-punk-junk, collage, even pop. Lots of in-studio live performances to boot.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	New	Approx. start time
Stefan Christensen & Friends	Bad Politics	Empty Plateaus	Loki Tapes	*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
3 Toed Sloth	Non-Alignment Pact "Non-Alignment Pact" by "3 Toed Sloth"	7"	Negative Guest List		0:03:05 (Pop-up)
The Muldoons	Agitated "Agitated" by "The Muldoons"	Live on Joe Belock's Three Chord Monte 4/8/06			0:06:03 (Pop-up)
So What	I Can See But You Don't Know	7"	Just Add Water	*	0:07:21 (Pop-up)
Led Zeppelin	Immigrant Song "Immigrant Song" by "Led Zeppelin"	How the West Was Won	Atlantic		0:10:00 (Pop-up)
Vinay	Moans In the Night "Moans In the Night" by "Vinay"	Naked Emotion Caught On Tape	No Label		0:12:15 (Pop-up)
William S. Burroughs	Excerpt from Naked Lunch	Call Me Burroughs	Superior Viaduct		0:14:40 (Pop-up)
Macho Man Randy Savage	Excerpt "Excerpt" by "Macho Man Randy Savage"	Macho Madness: Savage On the Stick	Loki Tapes	*	0:15:11 (Pop-up)
Crap Detectors	Desperate Depression	Media The Victim	Brain Transplant	*	0:19:52 (Pop-up)
Rosali	All Day Long "All Day Long" by "Rosali"	Out of Love	Siltbreeze	*	0:24:31 (Pop-up)
Mendrugo	La Breva "La Breva" by "Mendrugo"	More Amor	Fire		0:28:49 (Pop-up)
Maciunas Ensemble	1976 "1976" by "Maciunas Ensemble"	1976	Edition Telemark	*	0:39:21 (Pop-up)
Nurse With Wound	Part One "Part One" by "Nurse With Wound"	Chromanatron	Rotorelief	*	0:40:29 (Pop-up)
DJ Krush	Hitosu No Mirai "Hitosu No Mirai" by "DJ Krush"	Milight	Mo Wax		0:50:30 (Pop-up)
Rosemary Krust	Excerpt "Excerpt" by "Rosemary Krust"	Last Tape	Washy Tapes		0:59:39 (Pop-up)
Blue IV	Excerpt "Excerpt" by "Blue IV"	Triangulum	Love Earth Music	*	1:00:12 (Pop-up)
Sam and Joe	Save the Children "Save the Children" by "Sam and Joe"	Various: Fear of Smell	Vermiform		1:06:03 (Pop-up)
Sumac	Will To Reach "Will To Reach" by "Sumac"	What One Becomes	Thrill Jockey	*	1:11:08 (Pop-up)
Gnod	Learn To Forgive "Learn To Forgive" by "Gnod"	Mirror	Rocket Recordings	*	1:20:12 (Pop-up)
Of Cabbages and Kings	I "I" by "Of Cabbages and Kings"	Of Cabbages and Kings	Purge/Sound League		1:28:06 (Pop-up)
John Carpenter	Dark Blues "Dark Blues" by "John Carpenter"	Lost Themes II	Sacred Bones	*	1:43:54 (Pop-up)
Size	La Caballera Del Berenice "La Caballera Del Berenice" by "Size"	El Diablo en el Cuerpo	Sacred Bones		1:47:21 (Pop-up)
The Mad	Mask "Mask" by "The Mad"	12"	Brain Transplant	*	1:50:18 (Pop-up)
Rubber Mate	Floor Licker "Floor Licker" by "Rubber Mate"	7"	Saucepan	*	1:54:45 (Pop-up)
Doctor Nod	Automatic Swi "Automatic Swi" by "Doctor Nod"	Doctor Nod	Clean Nice Quiet	*	1:57:20 (Pop-up)
Dies Irae	Matin D'Orage "Matin D'Orage" by "Dies Irae"	Dies Irae	Monster Melodies	*	2:00:56 (Pop-up)
Matching Mole	Nan's True Hole "Nan's True Hole" by "Matching Mole"	Smoke Signals	Cuneiform		2:05:54 (Pop-up)
Strong / Fleisenberg	Excerpt "Excerpt" by "Strong / Fleisenberg"	Belly Mechanique	No Label	*	2:13:02 (Pop-up)
Glenn Branca	Drive "Drive" by "Glenn Branca"	Symphony No, 13: Hallucination City for 100 Guitars	Atavistic	*	2:23:04 (Pop-up)
Azna De L'ader	Samedi Soir "Samedi Soir" by "Azna De L'ader"	Zabaya	Sahel Sounds	*	2:34:53 (Pop-up)
Adnan Othman and The Rythmn Boys	Budi Bahasa	Bershukor	Sublime Frequencies		2:38:34 (Pop-up)
Mutants	Opposite World "Opposite World" by "Mutants"	Fun Terminal	White Noise		2:43:16 (Pop-up)
Spray Paint	George Finally Shows Up	Feel the Clamps	Goner	*	2:48:16 (Pop-up)
Messages	Foodshaker "Foodshaker" by "Messages"	Mirage	Root Strata	*	2:50:53 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:05pm Carmichael: OK, strapped in, ears on.
	3:06pm geezerette: MT Platapus
	3:06pm mariano: Great start!
	3:07pm Michael 98145: Pere Ubu – Non-Alignment Pact
	3:08pm Cliff: My ears are always on.
	3:09pm coelacanth: sweet! i taped this performance and i still listen to that tape!
	3:11pm 2904ConTO: oooooo, nice transition!
	3:12pm Cliff: ZEP
	3:13pm Cliff: ....with somebody blowin' their nose??
	3:13pm mrdonutsu: Speaking of Flights of the Behemoth!
	3:14pm JP from KC: Is that something dying in the background, there?
	3:14pm Carmichael: I've heard so many covers of this that I failed to recognize the original ...
	3:14pm mrdonutsu: Sad woodchuck?
	3:14pm mariano: What's that groaning in the background? Or is it just me?
	3:14pm Dean: Audience recording. Probably the NYT rock critic at the time.
	3:14pm coelacanth: -not dying fast enough.
	3:14pm 2904ConTO: damn son. got it TURNed up. like the woodchuck
	3:15pm Michael 98145: lonely bonobo
	3:15pm JP from KC: Well, I can't say it's not working...
	3:15pm Cliff: Dude must have some serious allergies
	3:15pm geezerette: shirtless man singing falsetto, I'm laughing as I swoon.
	3:16pm mariano: Sounds like whoever it is, is seriously getting off on the music and whatever s/he's on!
	3:16pm geezerette: God they were silly. But great.
	3:17pm 2904ConTO: the sound of Zep when they listen to their later catalog
	3:17pm geezerette: Great segue! Preach it Billy!
	3:17pm Cliff: That worked real well, Brian
	3:17pm JP from KC: 2904ConTO wins.
	3:18pm 2904ConTO: aw, shucks
	3:18pm Cliff: We all get special awards for participating
	3:19pm steveo: Are you saying that Burroughs was a savage?
	3:20pm Cliff: (...what do they call those? The ones they hand out to the millenial soccer players for showing up to the game)
	3:20pm geezerette: Inside Brian's Brain,it's funny in here! Plenty of room too.
	3:20pm mariano: Macho Man William Burroughs
	3:20pm sphere: "cup of coffee in the morning, man!"
	3:20pm 2904ConTO: Orange slices
	3:21pm Nucosme: Macho Man!... Hello everyone.it's been awhile and sporadic in here for me
	3:21pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sup.
	3:21pm mariano: If it were just a transcript it would be indistinguishable from a Trump campaign speech.
	3:21pm Nucosme: Sup Rev
	3:22pm Cliff: Or I guess it's post-millenials by now
	3:22pm 2904ConTO: The full Orange goes to Mariano
	3:22pm geezerette: R.I.P. Rob Ford.
	3:24pm mariano: Thanks 2904ConTO!
	3:24pm JP from KC: Seriously, 2904ConTO, you're on fire today.. "orange slices." Also, they're called participation trophies, Cliff. I got a few of those. I usually either threw them away immediately, or just left them at the event where I got them. Even as a kid, I knew they were a load of crap.
	3:26pm sphere: i was always "most improved."
	3:26pm 2904ConTO: Fire sign Fire Sign. Cup of coffee in the morning man. I am maligned. Brain Turner
	3:27pm geezerette: Honorable mention. Most depressing ribbon.
	3:27pm Cliff: Yep yep yep, participation trophies. My verbal recall has been a bit off since listening to Mayuko last night
	3:31pm Cliff: vodka wo nomu ato no tanjoubi wo oboeru no wa chotto taihen de shou ne
	3:33pm Cliff: (Could be worse, at least I'm not tryin' to type at you all in Lojban)
	3:34pm 2904ConTO: this is what i listen to when tossing salad
	3:35pm JP from KC: I hate that I'm technically considered a "Millenial." As a child born in the late 80's I'm lumped into the category, but I see those years as the transitional period between generations. I know some people who were born around the same time I was that are true millenials, but there are still a lot, like me, who identify much more closely with "Generation X."
	3:36pm Cliff: Huh, and I thought I was borderline Gen-X, being born in '78. What's the official Millenial cutoff year?
	3:37pm JP from KC: I think Millenials are those born post-1985.
	3:37pm Cliff: (Btw, I did some calendrical calculations once and figured out that Debbie Boone's "You Light Up My Life" would've been the #1 hit on the date of my conception)
	3:37pm Chris from DC: Waiting for a Ric Flair tape.
	3:38pm Cliff: JP - I thought it was 1980. Though I have a friend born a week after me who thinks it was 1976!
	3:38pm Nucosme: Better learn to love it!
	3:38pm Rev. Turnip Druid: For the wonky demographers amongst us, those generational categories are getting more refined (finally), into early & late halves, since there are such huge differences between early & late GenX data, etc... As for what the years are anymore, no idea...
	3:38pm JP from KC: Wikipedia says it's early 80s to 2000. Gen X is early 60s to early 80s.
	3:39pm geezerette: thought "millenial" cutoff was 1980
	3:39pm 2904ConTO: i was on a flight w ric flair to las vegas either last year or 2 years ago. is he dead?
	3:39pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [so says the old fart]
	3:40pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [technically known as 'generation fart']
	3:40pm Polyus: Need a Dusty Rhodes tape, daddy.
	3:40pm хтinа: That Macho Man clip really made my day! Thanks Brian! Uh oh discussion about millennials, gotta run :/ :/ :/ :/
	3:41pm Cliff: What's the cutoff year for Generation Fart? When they stopped pressing 78's?
	3:41pm Nucosme: Drive by Jehu. Only time I saw them I didn't know who they were. Opened up for Superchunk @ Galaxy Club in Dallas
	3:42pm JP from KC: I think the Generation Fart cutoff is, you have to be old enough to remember where you were when JFK was assassinated.
	3:42pm Chris from DC: Nah, Ric's still here far as I know.
	3:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'Wound! ...was just spinning the lovely Dark Fat release earlier. One for the ages.
	3:44pm Michael 98145: @JP, it's when you have 45 rpm adapters older than most folks around you
	3:44pm geezerette: We don't have to accept advertising-industry- generational-branding-for purposes-of-marketing. OK; I will shut up now.
	3:45pm 2904ConTO: he looked good at baggage claim.
	3:45pm Cliff: So what's the term for 78s then, Generation Cadaver Gas?
	3:46pm Cliff: MAC would know.
	3:48pm JP from KC: @Michael 98145: That's a good indicator. on a related note, As someone who knows what a 45 adapter is, I think I should be exempt from the "Millenial" category. I hereby declare myself a Gen X outlier.
	3:48pm Cliff: JP, you seem hip to our jive. We'll let you in.
	3:48pm Rev. Turnip Druid: god this is lovely.
	3:50pm Lyle: William Burroughs, there was a weirdo. I was more fond of his brother, Edgar Rice Burroughs and his wonderful Tarzan books. Of course, I was a brief drinking partner of Johnny Weismuller. This was in his telephone pole climbing period of some embarrassment back in, what? The late 50's? I recall I was playing soprano trombone with Xavier Cugat at that time, and I spent most of MY time playing nanny to a very immature Charro, who was married to Xavier and was so completely bored with his orchestra and his artwork that she was about to break free and enjoy her own brand of hoochie-coochie success. Weismuller on the other hand was downward spiraling fast. I coaxed him off many a pole on that tour as he followed us from city to city, often taunting Xavier from the wings. They were not friends. Eventually, Johhny fell froma pole in Elk Horn, Wisconsin and cracked his coccyx. Very painful indeed. Cugat laughed as they loaded Johnny in the ambulance, and that was the last we saw of him. I left Cugat to briefly join Charro's band. but that didn't last long. Her folky brand of acoustic music didn't much need my trombone stylings. I would soon find better fortunes with John Gary and his wonderful, if poorly appreciated, small orchestra. I sometimes can still hear him sing Yellow Bird if I shut my eyes tightly enough.
	3:51pm JP from KC: Thanks, cliff. I presume my blood-signing documents, instructions on the secret knock and location of the clubhouse, and my complimentary football phone will arrive via parcel.
	3:53pm Dean: Charro? Any relation to Charo? Did she roll her r's even more emphatically?
	3:53pm Kevin: Is that mendrugo record out? I cant find any mention of it on the net
	3:58pm Cecile: I think a lot of it has to do with where you grow up, birth order, parents background. In some ways, I'm a Traditionalist, and the calendar says I'm a Baby Boomer, but I probably relate most to Gen Xers (I was born in 1961).
	3:58pm coelacanth: geezerette @3:44 Bah-h-hd sheep! Michael @3:44 uh oh...
	3:59pm Cliff: Edgar Rice Burroughs, brother of William S. Oh, Lyle, you're such a cut-up.
	3:59pm 2904ConTO: Weismuller...classic wisco surname
	4:00pm Cliff: Obama's technically a Baby Boomer too, but he seems to have more of a Gen-X sensibility IMO
	4:02pm Cliff: JP, dude, we can't be bothered with any of that shit. Too much hassle.
	4:06pm coelacanth: Lyle's been hittin' the hooch today.
	4:06pm JP from KC: Ah, Cliff! Now there's that Generation X spirit! You guys were apathetic before it was cool.
	4:07pm Cliff: Char(r)o can be seen doin' the cuchi-cuchi on my favorites page! (Warning: takes a while to load)
	4:08pm will rodgers: nice call on the DJ Krush, Brian!
	4:09pm Cliff: Whatev, JP.
	4:10pm coelacanth: to go to YOUR institutional learning facilities?
	4:10pm mrdonutsu: I remember Charo storming out of the building when I worked at the Landsburg Company (known for such entertainment classics as That's Incredible, Jaws 3D, etc., etc.) in 1985. "Very bad meeting. Very bad people..."
	4:10pm melinda: @JP: there should be no shame in being a millennial, the older generation always bitches about the younger ones. They did it to Gen X before we got older.
	4:11pm Carmichael: I'm a baby boomer, and I can't stand any of y'all ...
	4:12pm 2904ConTO: Self Empowerment. I can smell it!
	4:12pm JakeGould: SAVE THE CHILDREN!
	4:12pm Cliff: Brian, you're on fire today
	4:13pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Sam & Joe for president of everything IN OUR LIFETIME.
	4:13pm coelacanth: Carmichael, is that a 110 instamatic?!
	4:13pm geezerette: coel, ;) The generation thing is just about being old enough to replace yourself. There's the age at which nature says you're ready and the time when most of your friends seem to be proceeding. Realistically it's between about 18 to 35. You can do it earlier or later but that's the optimal window. Nature's done with you after that. Everybody Dance Now!
	4:14pm Rev. Turnip Druid: SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMACK.
	4:15pm Cliff: SUMAC SUMAC SUMAC
	4:15pm Chris from DC: This.
	4:16pm chris: \m/
	4:18pm Cecile: I saw Sumac open for Neurosis, they were good, but a whole set was a lot. Not a lot of variety, but yay for being a co-ed band!
	4:19pm Cliff: Neurosis! I haven't listened to them in forever.
	4:19pm steve: i came here to say "that last guy for president" and Rev beat me to it
	4:19pm common: diggin the sumac. sounds like a great show, cecile!
	4:19pm Cecile: Obama was born the year I was. And had a different, but similarly chaotic upbringing.
	4:20pm Cecile: It was. I gotta say that Sumac's bass got you right in the gut. And Neurosis are incomparable.
	4:20pm Cecile: I like you too, Carm.
	4:21pm Cliff: I let a lot of my music sense lapse for those 6-1/2 years I was working at a soul-crushing corporate job. Now that I'm unemployed I've had some time to rediscover it all.
	4:23pm Cliff: Also I sympathize a lot with the plight of the Millenials, having finished grad school in 2009 just in time for there to be no jobs anymore
	4:23pm 2904ConTO: Generation Logan's Run
	4:25pm mariano: Nice War Pigs-style air-raid sirens.
	4:29pm Cheri Pi: back from 2 hour mind numbing meeting, yaghhhhh, release the kraken!
	4:30pm chris: head gnodding to gnod. gnice.
	4:30pm mariano: Pray for Gnod's blessings, Cheri!
	4:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Time for some mind-numbing beer, Cheri?
	4:31pm Cliff: Cheri! otsukaresama deshita!
	4:32pm Cecile: I'm a Traditionalist in that I stay with things prolly longer than I should, and make a lot of backup plans.
	4:33pm Rev. Turnip Druid: kraken roaming at will.
	4:33pm Cheri Pi: I'm counting the seconds Ken
	4:33pm geezerette: Millennials absolutely got screwed by predatory student debt. Not imagining the injustice of that. Jobs are disappearing for everyone. OK, I really need to shut up!!!
	4:34pm 2904ConTO: Sick Drummah
	4:36pm Cecile: No, I agree. Loans slowed me down a lot, but I also benefitted from some more grants than they have now.
	4:36pm Cecile: 1987? That was smoking!
	4:43pm mariano: The GG Allin Murder Junkies?!? Damn.
	4:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: insect ark!
	4:45pm mariano: Cecile: class of '87, high school here! Almost mis-typed "lass of '87" which I most certainly wasn't :(
	4:45pm Jeff: Clearly 5chimpfluch Grupp3 is just trying to trip up DJs with their silent "5". Or is it silent? And how is a 3 at the end of a word pronunciated? They're just being mean.
	4:46pm 2904ConTO: wish my job could be just listening to all of that live music.
	4:48pm Cliff: Jeff - maybe it's l33t spelling? 5=S, 3=E
	4:49pm Cecile: I was 1987 grad from college. And that was returning after about a three year break.
	4:49pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Haven't heard Lost Themes II yet; sounds superior to the first...
	4:50pm Rev. Turnip Druid: [assessment of the first = 57% lovely, 43% less so]
	4:51pm steve: i rented Dark Star. watched the first few mins and was so confused by how non Carpenter it seemed. may try again tonight.
	4:53pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Longtime fan of Dark Star. Dan O'Bannon totally makes it. Also being a complete geek for all things Alien (first film only), it's a must.
	4:53pm Chris from DC: The Mad!
	4:54pm common: agreed rev!
	4:54pm Andrew Waterloo: I love Dark Star. i saw it ages it was I a kid and spent years tracking it down again.
	4:54pm Cecile: It was a student film. We were so into that movie when we were in late HS/College. Dan O'Bannon, who was in Dark Star, helped design the first Alien movie. So my husband had did quite a few Dark Star/Alien crossover comics.
	4:54pm Cecile: Benson Arizona, the warm wind through your hair, my body flies the galaxies, my heart longs to be there...
	4:55pm Andrew Waterloo: Dan O'Bannon also got to Alien after designing Jodorowsky's Dune
	4:56pm Cecile: www.youtube.com...
	4:56pm Cecile: his death was a real loss.
	4:57pm Cecile: Pinback was the name of an indie band, wonder if it was inspired by Dark Star?
	4:57pm steve: ill give it another shot. looked beautiful, but i couldnt tell what was going on for the first 15 mins...
	4:58pm steve: i had the same Pinback thought! nice.
	4:58pm Cecile: It perks up a little about 20 minutes in.
	4:58pm Michael 98145: Heh. Rubber Mate; great band name.
	4:59pm mariano: Thought he was singing "hard liquor."
	4:59pm mrdonutsu: And now, 3hrs of meetings...
	5:00pm geezerette: "They Live" is good too. A great/bad movie about Reagan/Thatcher paranoia. Brilliant story device featuring Rolex watches and X-Ray specs,(glasses,not band). 1988.
	5:02pm Cliff: geezerette - For some reason I'm reminded of the "Gentlemen, synchronize Swatches!" bit from Parker Lewis Can't Lose 8)
	5:03pm Cecile: I loved Parker Lewis. I think you can pick it up pretty cheap on DVD now. "I'm going to direct my own Malcolm Ten!"
	5:04pm common: @geezerette: that flick has the longest fight scene ever. so silly. just when you think they are finished, they start fighting again.
	5:04pm steve: hell yeah. They Live is tied for my all time fav movie. perfect film.
	5:05pm geezerette: Cliff, that's funny! Swatches were a thing. Malcom ten!!!:D
	5:05pm Cliff: That and The Adventures of Pete & Pete were my favs in high school (Luscious Jackson played one time on the latter!)
	5:06pm Cliff: geezerette, I wanted a calculator watch SO BAD when I was in the 5th grade
	5:08pm geezerette: common, some really bad acting which somehow works! steve, definitely on my list.
	5:08pm Carmichael: @coel: why yes, a 110 Instamatic. Took some of my best pictures ever using one.
	5:09pm JP from KC: @Cliff: I LOVED "...Pete & Pete" when I was a kid. All the weird/creepy shows appealed to me. I also really liked "Are you Afraid of the Dark?" and "Eerie Indiana."
	5:09pm Cecile: I kind of miss flash cubes.
	5:10pm Cecile: I did a fake seed packet for class where the seed company was located in Eerie, Indiana
	5:11pm Cliff: I have Daria The Movie on DVD.
	5:11pm Carmichael: I'm sure there's been a band called the Flash Cubes.
	5:11pm steve: love Pete & Pete. little Pete was on Dave Hill a while ago, can't remember what he was plugging. think he's in a touring indie rock band.
	5:12pm JP from KC: Daria was one of my favorites, too.
	5:12pm mariano: @Cliff: a few years back when I lived in Carroll Gardens, Gabrielle from Luscious Jackson lived up the street, really sweet person. Come to think of it, haven't seen her in years, should look her up.
	5:13pm 2904ConTO: i like the funk element of this song. strange combos
	5:13pm geezerette: Cliff, it cracks me up that now when we don't need them; watches are bigger, heavier, and can do more unnecessary non-temporal things than ever! And are bigger status symbols than anytime since their invention!
	5:14pm Cliff: The best episode of You Can't Do That On Television was when they were taken over by the Soviets. The green slime bit whenever anybody said "I don't know" mysteriously stopped working, but anyone who said the word "free" got hit with red slime. Of course, "water" still got you water, that's the same under capitalism or communism.
	5:14pm Andrew Waterloo: I will never forget the day I found They Live and Repo Man on a cheap DVD rack.
	5:15pm mariano: I'm more of a Beavis & Butthead fan. Was rewatching some of their music vid commentaries, there's a great one where they're watching a vintage Sabbath clip doing Iron Man. Since it was in the 90s, Beavis asks: "Are these guys from Seattle?" and Butthead answers "No assmunch, they're American!" Also, for the Clash "Should I Stay" live video, they come to the conclusion that Mick Jones is Seinfeld, which, to be fair, he does in that clip.
	5:15pm Cliff: geezerette - Know what you mean! Apple sure is tryin' their darndest to bring them back in style (and not exactly succeeding yet)
	5:16pm mariano: *does look like, I meant to say. Speaking of Soviet episodes, remember the Soviet pirate episode of SCTV, 3CPTV?
	5:17pm coelacanth: i still have my swatch, for sentimental reasons. i only wore a watch for a few years to try to make a particular woman happy...but it is by far one of the coolest looking watches. simple, white hands, black body,black face, no numbers and some kind of golden ratio spiral on the face. cool.
	5:18pm melinda: Beavis and Butthead were unfairly maligned.
	5:18pm Carmichael: Was just gonna mention SCTV, Mariano. They did the morning show Today is Moscow, and a political dogma show called What Fits Into Russia? "Answer: EVERYTHING!"
	5:18pm Cliff: mariano - Is this Nicaragua?! Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heheh. Heheheheheh. Heh. Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heh. Heheheh. Heheh. Heh. Heh. Heh.
	5:18pm geezerette: Cliff, have you noticed how many full page ads for watches as big as your head are in all the "aspirational",(expensive)magazines? It's really funny!
	5:20pm Cliff: geezerette, I'm on a fixed budget, I can't afford those fancy-schmancy magamaziiines!!
	5:20pm Cecile: I loved Beavis and Butthead.
	5:20pm geezerette: I loved Ren & Stimpy.
	5:20pm Cliff: I HATED Ren & Stimpy. Poop.
	5:21pm Cecile: I only liked "Log" from Ren and Stimpy.
	5:21pm coelacanth: Carmichael, i too got some great shots with a 110. it had a telephoto lens, but it was no good for anything closer than about 8'. good for portraits of ornamental trees though.
	5:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...being Nov63 - the 'Boomers' was the demographic of a Boom in BirthRates that reportedly extended into early '64 - yet the Icons of GenX were born mid-1960s - so I always felt on the Cusp of Boomers & Xers. Gratified if I'm well in as a GenXer, really...But otherwise - an in-betweener on the other side of Xers... Buuut : As an Astrology Enthusiast...the positions of the slower Outer Planets are often correlated to differentiating Age Groups. (For example - when I was born - a Conjunction - a coming together - of Uranus & Pluto in Virgo correlating to Revolutions in Class & Civil issues & Technical things - w/ Neptune in Scorpio...too much to get into...) The very word 'Generations' is slippery if you wanna put it under a microscope. What is a 'Generation'? 30 Years? ...Loves Ren&Stimpy. Invader Zim too.
	5:23pm geezerette: Cliff, me either but I flip through them at news stands. :) They were gross but the animation is insane and hilarious. & yeah,the Log!
	5:23pm JP from KC: Powdered Toast Man was also a good Ren & Stimpy bit.
	5:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yeah, see...
	5:24pm mariano: @Cliff: those laughs still get me! @Carmichael: yes, "What Fits Into Russia," classic! Also John Candy in "Hey Gyorgy" -- "Look - Uzbeks have drunk your battery fluid!"
	5:24pm steve: anyone know where i can watch full Beavis and Buttheads, videos and all? see the video-stripped episodes are on Hulu.
	5:24pm Cliff: My stepdad was entertaining my aunt & uncle one time and talking about how it was a coincidence that his neighbor grew up in Neptune, New Jersey, just 5 miles away from where he grew up. I said, "Where was that, Uranus?" Everyone plotzed.
	5:25pm Andrew Waterloo: The videos were the best part of Beavis and butthead.
	5:25pm Cecile: Invader Zim was awesome. RevRab, some demographers call late boomers "Generation Jones" (longing for either side of the fence)
	5:25pm Cliff: (Sorry RevRabbit, that's just about all the astronomy I know ;)
	5:25pm geezerette: HaHa!!! :D
	5:26pm Cliff: (Err, astrology, even!)
	5:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: I like most of the cartoon programs mentioned here. I liked Aeon Flux on MTV, too. At first, I didn't like The Head, but in time, I grew to enjoy that, too.
	5:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& - Uranus correlates to rebellion & sometimes even perversion - so... ...Beavis & Buttheads critical 'reviews' of videos - that's the thing... Cecile that's great! I think we're a thing...
	5:27pm coelacanth: the whole notion of a generation applying to any group of people beyond a specific family is a bunch of bullshit. so....shenanigans.
	5:27pm Matt in Hillsborough: steve if you do torrents looks up the "King Turd" collection for (practically) complete beaver and butt-munch episodes
	5:27pm Cecile: Someone in a seminar was saying "oh, Xers saw recession, job loss, divorce, limited career options" and I said, "so did I". Being from a Rust Belt state is like being an instant Gen Xer in a lot of ways.
	5:28pm Cliff: Absolutely, coelacanth. Me and my siblings straddle the official Gen-X/Millenial cutoff, but we're certainly not in different "generations".
	5:28pm Cecile: Coel, I think it's ok on a very general level, but usually this data is used to divide and conquer.
	5:28pm mariano: Yeah, Andrew: thankfully you can still find them on YouTube, since because of licensing issues they can't include the vids in the DVD releases. They could say the most spot-on funny things about videos.
	5:29pm Michael 98145: one of my first CD purchases was a Glenn Branca
	5:30pm Cliff: Mayuko was playing Glenn Branca last night too. I really need to check him out
	5:30pm Ken From Hyde Park: After some kid torched his family's house and blamed it on Beavis, their video comments would include "Liar, liar" or "Higher, higher" because they promised not to mention fire anymore.
	5:31pm Cliff: Cecile, being a Gen-Xer from the Rust Belt is a double-whammy!
	5:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Generation labels are obviously a vast Generalization. Don't lose the trees for the forest when it comes to Individuals. Many classic Boomers had short hair & horn rim glasses & loved Murica...yerknow whatever...On the other hand - totally identify w/ GenX career & financial stuff. The 'X' is meant to imply a forgotten or misplaced group... This Branca is the stuff.
	5:33pm Cecile: Actually, Douglas Coupland was just using the X because X is a variable - he didn't want to name the generation anything. It's the same as "blank generation", Hell didn't want to say "blank generation", he wanted to say "____________ generation"
	5:33pm Cecile: Branca is great. I saw him live once, it was so loud and powerful.
	5:34pm Cecile: RevRab, the silent majority had a lot of Boomers in it!
	5:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Cecile: Right. Almost the same. ...Altho' the 1st wave of original Punks were - Boomers. ('Blank Gen' the song is a reworking of a tune about the Beat Generation.) That then to RTD's point about breaking up the big labels into sub-groups - certainly the PostWar Baby Boom that went on for some time...
	5:35pm geezerette: I'm an animation nerd,so that colors my outlook. B&W early Fleischer Popeyes are still radical and insane,also great music and muttering by Jack Mercer. I920's Felix the Cat also great. Youtube has some of this stuff. Goes well with shrooms I'm sure.
	5:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @geezerette: I marvel sometimes how the 20thCent. recedes - for one thing seeing Hollywood Golden Age cartoons on TV all the time - my faves the lavish surreal ones where whole gardens or shops would come to life...stuff younger folk aren't seeing now...
	5:38pm Cliff: I find it amusing that Andy Summers was in a band who put out a song called "Born In The '50s".
	5:39pm Cliff: geeezerette - I actually HATE watching TV on shrooms, when the ads come on it's a real drag and they seem to go on forever
	5:39pm Cecile: that was a big deal. I remember some slightly older co-workers being amazed I grew up in a world where the Beatles, rock 'n' roll and television already existed.
	5:40pm mariano: There is that line in "Blank Generation" where he says "I belong to the ____ generation"
	5:40pm coelacanth: true, Rabbit. i think because my parents, while being strict and disciplinary in some ways, gave us lots of freedom in others, i grew up fast and didn't get indoctrinated the same as many boomers. i listened to steppenwolf while my friends watched hogan's heroes...but somehow i relate to both the boomers and the Xes.
	5:40pm Cecile: Yep, exactly, mariano.
	5:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Here's some heavy Astrological take on it... : philosopherswheel.com...
	5:41pm Scraps deSelby: Pinback certainly was named after the movie. In the first EP (I think), they had a snippet of the film. Plus -- whoops, my social worker is here. More to come--
	5:41pm miketp: Azna is alrite
	5:42pm Cecile: my parents were about as far from hippies or hipsters as you could get. I didn't really get into pop music seriously until I was 15.
	5:42pm geezerette: The Rust Belt was an early warning. Yeah RevRab, you're talking Fleischer and Warners. Great imaginations and craft in those places. Children need that.
	5:42pm Cliff: RevRabbit, thanks for that link, looks like a good read!
	5:42pm Cecile: But I know a ton of country and easy listening stuff that people who grew up listening to rock didn't necessarily know.
	5:43pm Cheri Pi: That Branca was off th' chain [delayed reaction]
	5:44pm Dean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X_%281965_book%29
	5:44pm JakeGould: R.I.P. Burt Kwouk! He was Cato in the Pink Panther films. https://youtu.be/OC5Ldo1DjGk
	5:44pm melinda: I liked Budi Bahasa.
	5:45pm Cheri Pi: My mom at her birthday dinner admitted to exposing her young to the Eagles :(
	5:45pm Cecile: That is surely a sore spot between you and her, isn't it, Pi.
	5:46pm coelacanth: my parents were pretty alright, when i consider it now. during the vietnam war they constructed a giant, lighted peace-sign christmas wreath for the front of the house. this was many years before one could buy such a thing.
	5:46pm Cliff: Dean - Ha! The original Gen-X were the Mods. That kinda makes a lotta sense actually.
	5:47pm Scraps deSelby: Rob Crow of Pinback -- who is awesome -- has lyrics around science fiction movies.
	5:47pm Cheri Pi: it's taken a lifetime to heal, and robbed us of a proper relationship .
	5:47pm coelacanth: but yeah, my did listened to mostly horrible schmaltz, and my mother didn't like "noise in the house".
	5:47pm Cecile: well, great convo, but gotta go! Have a great evening everyone.
	5:48pm Cecile: hahahahaha pi.
	5:48pm geezerette: Oh Cliff man I would never suggest that. Dvds & streaming only, and only if you think of those cartoons as worlds you enjoy. Natures the best if you're somewhere beautiful right?
	5:48pm Cliff: I promise not to ask Ken again tomorrow morning to do an hour of Hotel California remixes
	5:48pm coelacanth: ciao Cecile
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: One thing already has the seed of the next. Punk was Post-Modern in many senses - which implies a precedent of Modernism (Mods). (The nascent Pistols turning the Small Faces' 'I want you to know that I love you baby' into 'hate you baby'...) Something come to Fullness becomes its' Opposite.
	5:49pm MenfussMike: that guitar is SICK!
	5:49pm Cliff: geezerette - Yep, I always have to get some time outdoors during a trip ;) Thanks fer the show Brian, and the scintillating conversation everybody!
	5:50pm common: eagles=headache...for me. the birds and the band.
	5:51pm geezerette: Brian, stellar show! Thanks always!
	5:52pm JakeGould: My dad was more upset at John Lennon dying than I was but mainly listened to Vladmir Horowitz playing Chopin.
	5:52pm Scraps deSelby: Rob Crow has several bands, current and past; very good ones include Heavy Vegetable and Optiganally Yours, plus Rob Crow solo
	5:52pm miketp: John carpenter. Here in Portland. June 15 schnitzer hall. Performing themes from film nothers
	5:52pm Michael 98145: Have a good time in Catalonia
	5:53pm Brian Turner: Thanks all, see ya soon
	5:53pm Dean: I listened yesterday to Linda Ronstadt's recording of "Desperado," credited on the label to Don Henley and Glen Fry! The Eagles (band) make me want to barf, but I don't mind Linda's traversal of the tune.
	5:54pm Dean: Youri Egorov died way too young. Damn, his Chopin was good.
	5:54pm Scraps deSelby: The Eagles know their way around hooks, though
	5:56pm coelacanth: Thanks Brian! Excellent program.
	5:56pm JakeGould: Eagles weren't bad for what they did. Stop hating.
	5:59pm Cliff: Eagles are alright, JakeGould. Was only kidding ;)
	9:59am wkg1955: first time listener....great...Dr Nod!

Brian Turner: Playlist from May 24, 2016

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