WFMU: Paid By The Tear with Sasha: Playlist from June 14, 2016

Listener comments!
	6:05am duke: Hello Sasha and tearful listeners
	6:06am sashajones: Hey, duke!
	6:06am Sem Chumbo: Pass the Kleenex. Hiya, Sasha, the duke.
	6:07am sashajones: Hello, Sem! Hope everybody's well out there.
	6:09am annie: good morning all! headng into 2 full weeks of critter-sittng tomorrow. 4 different species: cats, dog, fish, and bearded dragon.
	6:09am Sem Chumbo: In the midst of a cold and wet snap here, been going on for days, and the garden hates it. Sunny times ahead, of this we are sure.
	6:09am annie: wow!!!! a pop-up for commenting! sweet!
	6:11am sashajones: morning, annie! wow, bearded dragon, huh? that sounds very cool :)
	6:12am annie: he's one studly lizard, i tellyawhat! he flirts with me now that the lady lizard found a new home.
	6:20am the Canterbury wood-elf: Hey everyone. Just discovered this Ultramarine track last week via a 20 year old fanzine called "Facelift". It features a sample of Robert Wyatt scat vocal and a bit of Gong's "Flute Salad". Ultramarine were major Canterburysceneheads, worked with Kevin Ayers as well... Nice selection Sasha!
	6:23am ausmanx: i believe the bearded dragon could do with a shave else he be labelled hipster. good evening, all...
	6:24am Sem Chumbo: @ the Canterbury wood-elf: great liner notes on that track. Thx.
	6:57am ausmanx: good on you for engaging with it all, sasha. i am so often disappointed with this place on those occasions when the comments board is attacked for making a comment about something important other than music. i must say, the more these kinds of things happen, the more the rest of the world is bewildered by the American refusal to do anything about guns...
	7:03am Ken From Hyde Park: 5% of the world's population and 31% of shooting deaths. It's right there in the numbers.
	7:04am Nate K.: Morning, Sasha.
	7:06am sashajones: Morning, Nate!
	7:07am sashajones: ausmanx, definitely appreciated your words last week about how all music is political. Feeling more true than ever these days.
	7:11am sashajones: @the Canterbury wood-elf, wow, that's an awesome coincidence! Thanks for all the info!
	7:51am annie: aus: 3 letters: NRA and its incredbly "influential" lobbyng paired with unethical and easily-bribed congress-critters.
	7:51am Sem Chumbo: Thanks for this morning, Sasha. See you, and all, next time, if the Fates allow.
	7:52am annie: see ya Sem
	7:53am sashajones: Bye, Sem! Have a good one. Actually, fill in from DJ HotRod next week, y'all!
	7:53am annie: hotrod!!??
	7:54am sashajones: yes indeed!!
	7:55am northguineahills: DJ Soul Slinger sampled that Ninos Con Bombas track on his "abducted" 12" I believe in the same year.
	7:58am MONEYBAG$: Hey Sasha, do you know why there is no archive of your fill-in for Amanda last week? Wanted to listen to it again.
	7:58am JakeGould: Hello! Up early and streaming (listening)!
	7:59am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Good morning, just tuned in and I'm wide awake now
	7:59am Ken From Hyde Park: Hope things go well for you on your week off, Sasha. Kind of excited to hear HotRod again. I have fond memories of listening to her shows when she was on the schedule.
	8:03am Cliff (moving to Prague!): This is in response to Yet Another American Gun Massacre? I figured as much. Thanks Sasha.
	8:04am ausmanx: the time for vigils and placard waving is over. the civil disobedience should have begun a long time ago...
	8:06am Cliff (moving to Prague!): The gun-nut side is already engaging in civil disobedience - that's what the whole "open carry" movement is about.
	8:11am r080 (in Prague for 16yrs): Hello, HotRod next week is good news!
	8:13am sashajones: I think there's a time and a place for vigils and mourning - what's frustrating is events like last night in NYC where almost all of the air time is given to white politicians and celebrities without putting any weight behind fully acknowledging the victims in a way that shows respect for who was disproportionately affected by the massacre in Orlando and by homophobic violence, generally -- LGBT people of color, especially gender non-conforming people. There has always been a great deal of civil disobedience, which is often sanitized or written over. There will certainly be more, and I hope it is seen and heard by those in power.
	8:15am sashajones: Yes, HotRod is great news! Everybody check it out!
	8:16am steve: hey Sasha and friends
	8:16am sashajones: Hey Steve!
	8:18am Parq: Digging Arregaçada.
	8:18am Parq: Hey, new format for previewing comments?
	8:19am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Yeah Parq, it doesn't require you to reload the playlist page - I'll bet this is so that they can put video streams there and not have them restart when you comment (this was a problem people kept having during the Optimized! stream last week)
	8:20am sashajones: Yep, how about that technological shift in our very own lifetime!
	8:20am sashajones: Also, Cliff - congrats on moving to Prague?!
	8:20am steve: the future is here people
	8:21am JakeGould: @sashajones: Pretty much in agreement. But that’s what’s frustrating about the U.S. in general; too much white-washing of events to make them palatable to someone consuming media. At least NY1 is actually covering the reaction in non-white gay communities to this whole mess. Slight tangent but here in NYC there are these endless debates on bike lanes and making roads safer for cyclists. They always show the “Times Up” folks or generally white people who are casually cycling. Pretty much no acknowledgement of the world of delivery guys in bikes who are predominantly non-white and riding their bikes to deliver Seamless orders on crappy streets nobody is fighting to add a bike lane too.
	8:21am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks Sasha! My flight is on the 29th....still got a lot of packing and getting rid of stuff to do :)
	8:21am Guido from Cologne: Great stuff! From where?
	8:22am annie: so, i've never spoken this out loud and i'm going to say it here because this is an open-minded group: i think we are on the verge of a global/spiritual shift from "things as we know it" to a new paradigm of sexuality. ursula leguin wrote about this quite often. the shift will take many generations, and those who cling to the old paradigm are fearful of the new way, whch is true of all change. the new ways will be peace-related. this change is snail's-pace, yet rapid in the cosmic sense.
	8:23am annie: i haven't even spoken that on FB.... way too many attack-hounds
	8:25am Marcel M: One day we'll all be gay... All joking aside, I agree, Annie. I think its possible that one day the label "gay" and "straight" wont really exist.
	8:25am Marcel M: And, good morning all.
	8:27am Cliff (moving to Prague!): annie, great comment....I need to reread The Left Hand of Darkness.
	8:27am r080: Cliff, what are you up to here?
	8:28am r080: in Prague, that is
	8:29am Cliff (moving to Prague!): r080, I'll be teaching English as a second language, doing some side projects in tech, and hopefully on weekends have some time to travel around Europe.
	8:29am ausmanx: would love to think so, annie, but i believe that no change is possible now unless it starts from a fundamental understanding of the economic systems that are in place and exercise such ubiquitous control over everyone's lives. which is why i always advise people listening to what economists say, with the appropriate degree of skepticism. without knowing the enemy, we are lambs to the slaughter. if the whole world read Michael Hudson's books, THEN things would change...
	8:30am annie: what a wonderful life-change cliff.. i wish you the best of times
	8:31am annie: (hastily writing that down,aus)
	8:31am ausmanx: this is the best brief intro... www.counterpunch.org...
	8:31am sashajones: Morning, Marcel! Though the goal is not to erase our identities, right? Labels are wielded in violent ways but they hold meaning for people and that should never be negated. People's identities deserve to be respected in the ways they want them to be.
	8:32am Marcel M: I think Annie is talking about a slow change, meaning like, a shift in consciousness that could take hundreds of years? And specifically talking about sexuality? Or am I wrong, Annie?
	8:33am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks annie! Seemed like a good thing to do before I hit my 40's :)
	8:33am Parq: Still waiting to find out where Cliff is moving from, by the way.
	8:33am annie: yes, absolutely; nothing we will see in our lifetmes. perhaps our great-grandchildren will experience the freeing of the soul
	8:34am Parq: Oh, and Cliff, we're not outright moving, but Mrs. Parq and I will be spending a month in Poland, and she will also be teaching English.
	8:34am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Parq - Syracuse, NY
	8:34am annie: all human evolution takes time, especially the spiritual aspect
	8:34am Marcel M: @Sasha: Its true, but I'm not talking about an erasing of identity, more of a unified identity that creates less barriers. Looking back in time, in some cultures, it was very normal to be homosexual. And it wasn't even referred to as such. I just think a lot of it is nurture sometimes. I do think one day the dichotomy will be much looser, is all.
	8:35am JakeGould: Kinda agree with Sasha. Removing all labels typically only benefits those who have never been oppressed. It's the negative aspects of divisions that need to be overcome.
	8:36am annie: right on marcel.
	8:37am Marcel M: Removing all labels is simplifying the idea.. its not what I mean at all. I'm talking about people progressing to a point where sexuality is not just one or the other or for some people both. Most or all people will be capable of having homosexual relationships so the labels will disappear. Though you don't have to agree with it, looking at it as just labeling is missing my point.
	8:38am Marcel M: Its just a theory. Many "straight" people fall in love with or can enjoy sex with the same sex. I think its going to happen more and more and become a common thing that is not hidden.
	8:38am Marcel M: But again, hundreds of years? 1000? Will we still be here? Who knows!
	8:39am sashajones: Marcel, I hear you. And the dichotomy that a lot of people reference already excludes a lot of people! Did not mean to make you feel like I was reducing your point, just wanted to continue the discussion! All I really mean to say is that in the society we live in, identity is important and probably always will be. It's definitely a nuanced thing.
	8:39am annie: many science fiction authors have always known this will come. i applaud the time-to-come when we are no longer focussing on gender-identity as an issue. as things shift, it will be easier to express these things without repurcussions.
	8:40am annie: those who are fearful/intimidated by it are the most vociferous.
	8:40am Marcel M: For sure Sasha, I didn't' think you were belittling my point. Enjoying the conversation.
	8:41am annie: this show today has been wonderful sasha!! i'm glad you're taking time off, and i happy to hear hotrod next week!
	8:44am Marcel M: I've never heard of Left hand of darkness but I am very intrigued.
	8:44am r080: Nice, I wish you luck.
	8:46am annie: marcel, it's eye-opening and, at the same time, reassuring. i loved it. and i'm going to try to read mr hudson's nooks, too
	8:46am Marcel M: Annie, Cool. I think I'm gonna check it out.
	8:48am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks for the show today Sasha, and have fun at your cousin's wedding :)
	8:49am annie: ursula leguin covers many aspects of creation in insightful and loving ways.
	8:52am northguineahills: Thanks Sasha!
	8:53am ausmanx: thanks again, sasha, and have a good week off. i recall, like everyone else, HotRod is a great fill in - she too wasn't afraid to address the serious stuff on her comments board! i think you're right about sci-fi too annie; the good ones should be taken more seriously, and not dismissed as a "fantasy" genre (saw the new film from JG Ballard's HIGH RISE on the weekend - not a great film, but how good was he...)
	8:53am Nina: Thank you for highlighting that Sasha, well said. So important to remember.
	8:53am Ken From Hyde Park: Happy 55th today, Boy George .
	8:55am sashajones: Thanks for listening, everybody.
	8:58am JakeGould: Thank you!

Paid By The Tear with Sasha: Playlist from June 14, 2016

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Patrick Cowley & Jorge Socarras	Hurdy Gurdy Man	Catholic	Dark Entries	2014		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Arthur Russell	Love is Overtaking Me	Love Is Overtaking Me	Audika	2008		0:07:21 (Pop-up)
NV	Bells Burp "Bells Burp" by "NV"	Binasu	Orange Milk	2016		0:10:49 (Pop-up)
Ultramarine	Saratoga (Upstate Mix)	Excursions in Ambience	Caroline	1993		0:16:23 (Pop-up)
Fantasias Animadas	Estéreo "Estéreo" by "Fantasias Animadas"	Elektronische Musik Aus Buenos Aires	Traum	1999		0:21:34 (Pop-up)
Alicia Delgado	Terco Corazón "Terco Corazón" by "Alicia Delgado"	La Princesa del Folklore	Independiente	2015		0:27:42 (Pop-up)
Llips.	Things End Where They Start	Perspective Fragments Vol. 1: Traveling Through Today's Electronic Fields	U-Cover	2007		0:31:21 (Pop-up)
Angel Haze	Exposed "Exposed" by "Angel Haze"	Back to the Woods		2015		0:41:04 (Pop-up)
Flanger	Endless Summer "Endless Summer" by "Flanger"	For Films: Selected Tracks For Moving Pictures Edit. 4	Freibank	1999		0:45:22 (Pop-up)
Christina Grimmie	With Love "With Love" by "Christina Grimmie"	With Love		2013		0:47:55 (Pop-up)

Wilma Burgess	Don't Touch Me "Don't Touch Me" by "Wilma Burgess"			1966		0:57:30 (Pop-up)
Lesley Gore	Someplace Else Now "Someplace Else Now" by "Lesley Gore"	Someplace Else Now	Motown	1972		1:00:18 (Pop-up)
Meshell Ndegeocello	Conviction "Conviction" by "Meshell Ndegeocello"	Comet, Come to Me	Naive	2014		1:03:13 (Pop-up)
Tomasa Del Real & La Chimba	Arena Modernisma			2016	s/o and huge thanks to Radio Menea for leading me to this track and several others! https://radiomenea.com/	1:07:05 (Pop-up)
Los Superiores	Descarga Superior "Descarga Superior" by "Los Superiores"	Panama! 2	SoundWay	2009		1:10:35 (Pop-up)
Deborah Blues ft. VFRO	Para Que Sepas			2016		1:14:36 (Pop-up)
bbymutha	Love Potion "Love Potion" by "bbymutha"			2016		1:18:25 (Pop-up)
Lido Pimienta	Agua (Los Cabellos de tu Madre)			2016		1:21:44 (Pop-up)
Trineo	Humorosso "Humorosso" by "Trineo"	Elektronische Musik Aus Buenos Aires	Traum	1999		1:26:28 (Pop-up)

Aye Nako	Leaving the Body "Leaving the Body" by "Aye Nako"	The Blackest Eye	Don Giovanni	2015		1:34:54 (Pop-up)
Elizabeth Marie Rivera ft. Izzi Starz	Read My Lips			2015		1:38:11 (Pop-up)
Noita	Over Here "Over Here" by "Noita"			2016		1:41:27 (Pop-up)
Paradise	Change "Change" by "Paradise"	Journey into Paradise: The Larry Levan Story	Rhino	2006		1:44:56 (Pop-up)
Niños Con Bombas	Psychotropical "Psychotropical" by "Niños Con Bombas"	For Films: Selected Tracks For Moving Pictures Edit. 4	Freibank	1999		1:50:02 (Pop-up)
PWR BTTM	All the Boys "All the Boys" by "PWR BTTM"	Ugly Cherries		2015		1:53:33 (Pop-up)
Limp Wrist	Want Us Dead "Want Us Dead" by "Limp Wrist"	Want Us Dead		2005		1:55:50 (Pop-up)
G.L.O.S.S.	We Live "We Live" by "G.L.O.S.S."	Trans Day of Revenge		2016		1:57:22 (Pop-up)
G.L.O.S.S.	Trans Day of Revenge "Trans Day of Revenge" by "G.L.O.S.S."	Trans Day of Revenge		2016		1:58:33 (Pop-up)
Elysia Crampton, Chino Amobi, Why Be	Dummy Track			2016		2:00:22 (Pop-up)

Guy Cuevas	Obsession "Obsession" by "Guy Cuevas"		Island Records	1982		2:08:51 (Pop-up)
Banda Uó	Arregaçada "Arregaçada" by "Banda Uó"	Veneno		2016		2:15:26 (Pop-up)
La Performera	Tortillera "Tortillera" by "La Performera"	"i wanted to be a cheerleader but my cuntry didn't have it."		2009		2:17:59 (Pop-up)
George McCrae	I Get Lifted "I Get Lifted" by "George McCrae"	Miami Sound	Soul Jazz	2003		2:21:22 (Pop-up)
Kyle	Stay 4Ever "Stay 4Ever" by "Kyle"			2016		2:23:53 (Pop-up)
Orquesta Novel	Dance, Dance, Dance	El Barrio: Latin Disco	Fania	2012		2:28:08 (Pop-up)
Sylvester	Can't Stop Dancing "Can't Stop Dancing" by "Sylvester"					2:32:20 (Pop-up)
Nortec Collective	Que Bonita Bailas	Silencio = Muerte	Nacional	2006		2:39:52 (Pop-up)
Stefanie Gisselle	Una Y Otra Vez "Una Y Otra Vez" by "Stefanie Gisselle"			2016		2:43:45 (Pop-up)

Air Waves	Thunder "Thunder" by "Air Waves"	Parting Glances		2015		2:53:07 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:05am duke: Hello Sasha and tearful listeners
	6:06am sashajones: Hey, duke!
	6:06am Sem Chumbo: Pass the Kleenex. Hiya, Sasha, the duke.
	6:07am sashajones: Hello, Sem! Hope everybody's well out there.
	6:09am annie: good morning all! headng into 2 full weeks of critter-sittng tomorrow. 4 different species: cats, dog, fish, and bearded dragon.
	6:09am Sem Chumbo: In the midst of a cold and wet snap here, been going on for days, and the garden hates it. Sunny times ahead, of this we are sure.
	6:09am annie: wow!!!! a pop-up for commenting! sweet!
	6:11am sashajones: morning, annie! wow, bearded dragon, huh? that sounds very cool :)
	6:12am annie: he's one studly lizard, i tellyawhat! he flirts with me now that the lady lizard found a new home.
	6:20am the Canterbury wood-elf: Hey everyone. Just discovered this Ultramarine track last week via a 20 year old fanzine called "Facelift". It features a sample of Robert Wyatt scat vocal and a bit of Gong's "Flute Salad". Ultramarine were major Canterburysceneheads, worked with Kevin Ayers as well... Nice selection Sasha!
	6:23am ausmanx: i believe the bearded dragon could do with a shave else he be labelled hipster. good evening, all...
	6:24am Sem Chumbo: @ the Canterbury wood-elf: great liner notes on that track. Thx.
	6:57am ausmanx: good on you for engaging with it all, sasha. i am so often disappointed with this place on those occasions when the comments board is attacked for making a comment about something important other than music. i must say, the more these kinds of things happen, the more the rest of the world is bewildered by the American refusal to do anything about guns...
	7:03am Ken From Hyde Park: 5% of the world's population and 31% of shooting deaths. It's right there in the numbers.
	7:04am Nate K.: Morning, Sasha.
	7:06am sashajones: Morning, Nate!
	7:07am sashajones: ausmanx, definitely appreciated your words last week about how all music is political. Feeling more true than ever these days.
	7:11am sashajones: @the Canterbury wood-elf, wow, that's an awesome coincidence! Thanks for all the info!
	7:51am annie: aus: 3 letters: NRA and its incredbly "influential" lobbyng paired with unethical and easily-bribed congress-critters.
	7:51am Sem Chumbo: Thanks for this morning, Sasha. See you, and all, next time, if the Fates allow.
	7:52am annie: see ya Sem
	7:53am sashajones: Bye, Sem! Have a good one. Actually, fill in from DJ HotRod next week, y'all!
	7:53am annie: hotrod!!??
	7:54am sashajones: yes indeed!!
	7:55am northguineahills: DJ Soul Slinger sampled that Ninos Con Bombas track on his "abducted" 12" I believe in the same year.
	7:58am MONEYBAG$: Hey Sasha, do you know why there is no archive of your fill-in for Amanda last week? Wanted to listen to it again.
	7:58am JakeGould: Hello! Up early and streaming (listening)!
	7:59am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Good morning, just tuned in and I'm wide awake now
	7:59am Ken From Hyde Park: Hope things go well for you on your week off, Sasha. Kind of excited to hear HotRod again. I have fond memories of listening to her shows when she was on the schedule.
	8:03am Cliff (moving to Prague!): This is in response to Yet Another American Gun Massacre? I figured as much. Thanks Sasha.
	8:04am ausmanx: the time for vigils and placard waving is over. the civil disobedience should have begun a long time ago...
	8:06am Cliff (moving to Prague!): The gun-nut side is already engaging in civil disobedience - that's what the whole "open carry" movement is about.
	8:11am r080 (in Prague for 16yrs): Hello, HotRod next week is good news!
	8:13am sashajones: I think there's a time and a place for vigils and mourning - what's frustrating is events like last night in NYC where almost all of the air time is given to white politicians and celebrities without putting any weight behind fully acknowledging the victims in a way that shows respect for who was disproportionately affected by the massacre in Orlando and by homophobic violence, generally -- LGBT people of color, especially gender non-conforming people. There has always been a great deal of civil disobedience, which is often sanitized or written over. There will certainly be more, and I hope it is seen and heard by those in power.
	8:15am sashajones: Yes, HotRod is great news! Everybody check it out!
	8:16am steve: hey Sasha and friends
	8:16am sashajones: Hey Steve!
	8:18am Parq: Digging Arregaçada.
	8:18am Parq: Hey, new format for previewing comments?
	8:19am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Yeah Parq, it doesn't require you to reload the playlist page - I'll bet this is so that they can put video streams there and not have them restart when you comment (this was a problem people kept having during the Optimized! stream last week)
	8:20am sashajones: Yep, how about that technological shift in our very own lifetime!
	8:20am sashajones: Also, Cliff - congrats on moving to Prague?!
	8:20am steve: the future is here people
	8:21am JakeGould: @sashajones: Pretty much in agreement. But that’s what’s frustrating about the U.S. in general; too much white-washing of events to make them palatable to someone consuming media. At least NY1 is actually covering the reaction in non-white gay communities to this whole mess. Slight tangent but here in NYC there are these endless debates on bike lanes and making roads safer for cyclists. They always show the “Times Up” folks or generally white people who are casually cycling. Pretty much no acknowledgement of the world of delivery guys in bikes who are predominantly non-white and riding their bikes to deliver Seamless orders on crappy streets nobody is fighting to add a bike lane too.
	8:21am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks Sasha! My flight is on the 29th....still got a lot of packing and getting rid of stuff to do :)
	8:21am Guido from Cologne: Great stuff! From where?
	8:22am annie: so, i've never spoken this out loud and i'm going to say it here because this is an open-minded group: i think we are on the verge of a global/spiritual shift from "things as we know it" to a new paradigm of sexuality. ursula leguin wrote about this quite often. the shift will take many generations, and those who cling to the old paradigm are fearful of the new way, whch is true of all change. the new ways will be peace-related. this change is snail's-pace, yet rapid in the cosmic sense.
	8:23am annie: i haven't even spoken that on FB.... way too many attack-hounds
	8:25am Marcel M: One day we'll all be gay... All joking aside, I agree, Annie. I think its possible that one day the label "gay" and "straight" wont really exist.
	8:25am Marcel M: And, good morning all.
	8:27am Cliff (moving to Prague!): annie, great comment....I need to reread The Left Hand of Darkness.
	8:27am r080: Cliff, what are you up to here?
	8:28am r080: in Prague, that is
	8:29am Cliff (moving to Prague!): r080, I'll be teaching English as a second language, doing some side projects in tech, and hopefully on weekends have some time to travel around Europe.
	8:29am ausmanx: would love to think so, annie, but i believe that no change is possible now unless it starts from a fundamental understanding of the economic systems that are in place and exercise such ubiquitous control over everyone's lives. which is why i always advise people listening to what economists say, with the appropriate degree of skepticism. without knowing the enemy, we are lambs to the slaughter. if the whole world read Michael Hudson's books, THEN things would change...
	8:30am annie: what a wonderful life-change cliff.. i wish you the best of times
	8:31am annie: (hastily writing that down,aus)
	8:31am ausmanx: this is the best brief intro... www.counterpunch.org...
	8:31am sashajones: Morning, Marcel! Though the goal is not to erase our identities, right? Labels are wielded in violent ways but they hold meaning for people and that should never be negated. People's identities deserve to be respected in the ways they want them to be.
	8:32am Marcel M: I think Annie is talking about a slow change, meaning like, a shift in consciousness that could take hundreds of years? And specifically talking about sexuality? Or am I wrong, Annie?
	8:33am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks annie! Seemed like a good thing to do before I hit my 40's :)
	8:33am Parq: Still waiting to find out where Cliff is moving from, by the way.
	8:33am annie: yes, absolutely; nothing we will see in our lifetmes. perhaps our great-grandchildren will experience the freeing of the soul
	8:34am Parq: Oh, and Cliff, we're not outright moving, but Mrs. Parq and I will be spending a month in Poland, and she will also be teaching English.
	8:34am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Parq - Syracuse, NY
	8:34am annie: all human evolution takes time, especially the spiritual aspect
	8:34am Marcel M: @Sasha: Its true, but I'm not talking about an erasing of identity, more of a unified identity that creates less barriers. Looking back in time, in some cultures, it was very normal to be homosexual. And it wasn't even referred to as such. I just think a lot of it is nurture sometimes. I do think one day the dichotomy will be much looser, is all.
	8:35am JakeGould: Kinda agree with Sasha. Removing all labels typically only benefits those who have never been oppressed. It's the negative aspects of divisions that need to be overcome.
	8:36am annie: right on marcel.
	8:37am Marcel M: Removing all labels is simplifying the idea.. its not what I mean at all. I'm talking about people progressing to a point where sexuality is not just one or the other or for some people both. Most or all people will be capable of having homosexual relationships so the labels will disappear. Though you don't have to agree with it, looking at it as just labeling is missing my point.
	8:38am Marcel M: Its just a theory. Many "straight" people fall in love with or can enjoy sex with the same sex. I think its going to happen more and more and become a common thing that is not hidden.
	8:38am Marcel M: But again, hundreds of years? 1000? Will we still be here? Who knows!
	8:39am sashajones: Marcel, I hear you. And the dichotomy that a lot of people reference already excludes a lot of people! Did not mean to make you feel like I was reducing your point, just wanted to continue the discussion! All I really mean to say is that in the society we live in, identity is important and probably always will be. It's definitely a nuanced thing.
	8:39am annie: many science fiction authors have always known this will come. i applaud the time-to-come when we are no longer focussing on gender-identity as an issue. as things shift, it will be easier to express these things without repurcussions.
	8:40am annie: those who are fearful/intimidated by it are the most vociferous.
	8:40am Marcel M: For sure Sasha, I didn't' think you were belittling my point. Enjoying the conversation.
	8:41am annie: this show today has been wonderful sasha!! i'm glad you're taking time off, and i happy to hear hotrod next week!
	8:44am Marcel M: I've never heard of Left hand of darkness but I am very intrigued.
	8:44am r080: Nice, I wish you luck.
	8:46am annie: marcel, it's eye-opening and, at the same time, reassuring. i loved it. and i'm going to try to read mr hudson's nooks, too
	8:46am Marcel M: Annie, Cool. I think I'm gonna check it out.
	8:48am Cliff (moving to Prague!): Thanks for the show today Sasha, and have fun at your cousin's wedding :)
	8:49am annie: ursula leguin covers many aspects of creation in insightful and loving ways.
	8:52am northguineahills: Thanks Sasha!
	8:53am ausmanx: thanks again, sasha, and have a good week off. i recall, like everyone else, HotRod is a great fill in - she too wasn't afraid to address the serious stuff on her comments board! i think you're right about sci-fi too annie; the good ones should be taken more seriously, and not dismissed as a "fantasy" genre (saw the new film from JG Ballard's HIGH RISE on the weekend - not a great film, but how good was he...)
	8:53am Nina: Thank you for highlighting that Sasha, well said. So important to remember.
	8:53am Ken From Hyde Park: Happy 55th today, Boy George .
	8:55am sashajones: Thanks for listening, everybody.
	8:58am JakeGould: Thank you!

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