WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 17, 2016

Listener comments!
	♥ 9:02am guy mauve: Good morning, ye Troubleminded
	♥ 9:03am Dave in Vermont: Thanks, Trouble.
	♥ 9:03am rebuketodali: Good morning, Trouble! I've had to teach during your new time slot, but my class ended last week! So nice to be able to listen live again.
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: good morning thursday! this morning's artwork is by Zak Prekop
	♥ 9:04am Sem Chumbo: Hello, Trouble, and good morning. I'm a sucker for viridian anything.
	9:06am sphere: hi trouble. im on my way back.
	9:06am northguineahills: Is Zak Prekop related to Sam Prekop?
	9:07am Bronwyn Bishop: morning trouble, morning pals
	9:08am doca: For a moment I thought that that bass note was the beginning of Don Cherry's rendition of Malkauns. Hello, Trouble and friends!
	9:08am annie: good morning trouble!!
	♥ 9:08am Trouble: don't know, northguinea hills.
	♥ 9:13am Trouble: fair warning: I will be sitting in this chair next thursday, hopefully aiding your meal prep or transportation nightmares, which ever you have chosen
	♥ 9:15am Ken From Hyde Park: Excellent news ... music to stuff turkeys by!
	9:15am Adrian in London: Hi Trouble. In Tate Modern having a coffee. Enjoying the drifts and drones in my ears right now.
	♥ 9:16am Dave in Vermont: @Trouble. Thank God.
	9:17am JakeGould: Hey! Hello! But wait... Why would we assume you would not be here next Thursday?
	9:20am chromaphone: This sounds really neat in headphones.
	9:21am mauri: sounds like someone showering next door.
	9:25am sugarwolf: Hello all
	9:27am farmer_k8: nice sounds for this foggy morning!
	9:28am chromaphone: Good old pentatonic scale :)
	♥ 9:34am Guido from Cologne: Hello Trouble!
	♥ 9:36am MD: Good Morning all! My wife saw an article this morning stating that the NSA has concluded the election servers were hacked by Our Friends in the Kremlin...OH Well! What can you do!!!???
	♥ 9:37am Sem Chumbo: @doca 10:08.: just back from the garden, hello! How's Porto Alegre today?
	9:38am Chris from DC: Yay, ERP.
	♥ 9:40am MD: Joining the ACLU only costs 20 bux...or what ever you can afford...It is worth it...we have to FIGHT!!!
	9:40am JakeGould: @MD: Election servers were not hacked. The report is about the timing of WikiLeaks information. If actual polling machines were hacked outright don't you think there would be bigger news? The "hack" was simply that WikiLeaks got information and that was leaked at just the right time to discredit Clinton. A bigger "hack" is the FBI chief gossiping about nothing in the days before the election. These are not "hacks" but rather politics as usual but with new fancy tools.
	♥ 9:45am melinda: hello! I still feel like crap too!
	♥ 9:45am rebuketodali: Amen to that, Trouble! Yep, feeling crappy but still fighting.
	♥ 9:45am Planet Tyler: malaise is an understatement...
	♥ 9:46am MD: M = 1000
	9:47am annie: I V X L C D M= 1,5,10,50,100,1000
	♥ 9:47am MD: M = 1000 C=100 CM=1900
	♥ 9:48am MD: NO WAIT ...900!!! SRY!
	♥ 9:48am MD: CMM=1900.......................I WILL STOP NOW...
	9:49am AndrewC.: bottom line is: MMXVI = 2016
	♥ 9:49am Ike: Crap and malaise don't even begin to cover it. More like a black storm front of imminent nuclear doom looming over our heads every second of every day and/or the absolute and final discrediting of democracy worldwide. (China can now point at us and say, "See? It doesn't work. You don't want that. You end up with maniacs running things." China will now never have a democratic revolution.)
	♥ 9:49am tiago: je jamais changerais d'avis sur ton programme Trouble :)
	9:51am annie: Civil Eats did a great short write-up on what Mr Trump can and cannot do to agencies such as the EPA(evil as it is).
	♥ 9:51am Priscilla: Watching Stephen Colbert helps a bit, but we are still trapped in a nightmare.
	♥ 9:51am Trouble: merci tiago, tu est gentil
	♥ 9:52am MD: MMXVI...Great message Board Name!!!
	9:52am Rev. Turnip Druid: friends.
	9:55am Chris from DC: Th'Rev
	♥ 9:56am Planet Tyler: @Ike: At least nuclear winter will take care of global warming
	♥ 10:04am Adrian in London: One thing that really took my mind off the Apocalypse was the Japanese film Our Little Sister, from the director of I Wish and Like father, Like Son. It's beautiful and is full of kindness, ever so slightly soapy but with a deeper core than that. Best film I've seen in ages.
	♥ 10:06am Trouble: thanks for that suggestion adrian, and i am so jealous of you walking around the tate this morning...
	♥ 10:07am MD: We need to keep up PMA...Positive Mental Attitude...I know it's hard...Monsters sometimes do eat themselves...
	♥ 10:08am Trouble: happy to have you all here!!
	10:09am Wild Neil: PEACE all. Currently writing up creative ways to better explain "why was I fired"....still looking for work, getting some interviews. Yes, I am on medicaid and food stamps. Still looking for a mechanical engineering position near Buffalo, NY. Built a fire pit for free a few weeks ago, will have friends over to burn kielbasa chunks on friday, then marshmallows...it is a one meter pit inside a two meter pit, so it can handle a normal fire or a huge bonfire.
	10:11am βrian: Vague, indeterminate skies over the Isthmus today. The gravity remains oppressive, sadly.
	10:14am JakeGould: Folks, remember to support each other even more than usual nowadays. And don't forget mid-term elections as well.
	10:16am βrian: We haven't decided on the TG meal yet. Lasagna or cold millet gruel?
	♥ 10:17am Priscilla: Last time I was fired, I told my prospective employer I was "between jobs". There's the "department reorganization" excuse, which is what was used to fire me.
	10:17am sphere: i adore this Bee Gees song.
	10:17am Rarouse: Yayay so good music this morning, thank you Trouble:)
	10:18am Wild Neil: This Yo La Tengo is delightfully naive and plaintive sounding! @Priscilla-thats pretty good, I think I will use that! I am sending these to a fellow unemployed lawyer who is good at "telling the truth while putting myself in the best possible light!"
	♥ 10:20am Whosondephone: Yo La Tengo the best band ever.
	10:20am annie: i finally saw "Swiss Army Man" last night..i did NOT grok it at all.
	♥ 10:21am Priscilla: Best of luck, Neil. After several layoffs/firings, I can say it's usually a blessing.
	10:21am sphere: Speaking of "grok," I have heard that SyFy wants to adapt Stranger in a Strange Land to cable.
	10:22am Listener142985: This Kathryn Williams sounds great right now.
	10:23am βrian: The "between universes" explanation is always compelling, too.
	♥ 10:24am 1ke: I second the "company was reorganized" thing. I've used that.
	10:24am JakeGould: Stop saying "grok."
	10:24am Wild Neil: @Priscilla-yeah, the work conditions were awesome and I managed myself, but nobody really helped me with my projects at all! Well I had SOME help from my boss designing one of them, but its really really really hard to invent new products....as somebody has probably had the same good ideas!
	10:24am annie: @sphere: i'd SO watch that
	10:25am βrian: As in, its atoms were reorganized? That's a pretty good euphemism. Extra credit for creativity is due.
	10:25am Wild Neil: Grok is so 1974. Like "I grok Spock".... Stranger in a Strange Land really made me think when I was 16....Heinlien wrote some really warped sex stuff involving incest with a daughter later on....he was kind of a perv really...
	10:26am annie: @Jake: i will never stop using that word, it is one of the finest concepts to come out of literature.
	10:26am βrian: Yup, I've worked in orgs where they think the hire is the end of the process. Then stuff is supposed to happen — by magic!
	10:29am annie: i've been lucky enough with jobs to have my position labelled "autonomous".
	10:29am SeanG: if i can recall Wild Neil, weren't you a trump supporter?
	10:30am βrian: Francophones: Can one say, "Mon emploi est temporairement en déplacement"?
	10:30am βrian: @Annie: way better than "autumnal."
	10:30am JakeGould: I hate "grok" since I do tech work and 9 times out of 10 techs who casually say "grok" have utterly no idea what they are talking about. Just my 2 cents.
	10:33am annie: i dig it jake, and i feel that pain. it's the same feeling i get when i hear "Who's John Galt?" mis-used
	10:34am βrian: Who's Paul Ryan?
	10:34am Wild Neil: @SeanG-yes, I am pro life so I supported Trump and still do. If anybody wishes to discuss this further, click on my profile and email me. That would be the correct forum to discuss this. I think it would bum out Trouble to have a heated political discussion in here.... @Trouble-trying to deflect here, please notice. Lving the music, keep it coming! Trying to keep on discussing innocuous subjects here on your board!
	10:35am JakeGould: @annie: Ha! Make things even worse in had to clean up some work. Utter crap. Put back in touch with original tech. Nice fella, but he also wrote a book about tech stuff I have read. And he had no clue. And he said "grok." And it's like I trust no tech books anymore.
	10:37am annie: it's similar to the contra-dancer's advice: musicians shouldn't dance
	10:37am Chris from DC: I look forward to hearing FMU over the actual airwaves in a few hours.
	♥ 10:38am Fuzzy: Double-U! Not Dubba-ya! Argh! Bush/Palin flashbacks!
	10:38am βrian: Carpenters shouldn't paint. That I know.
	10:40am annie: brian, as an ex-painter i can certainly attest to that; we always had to keep the brush out of reach
	10:41am kevlicki: Morning trouble and all!
	10:44am βrian: And they tend to handle caulk guns as if they were Uzis. .... "Put the caulk gun down!"
	10:46am Wild Neil: Writing about burning Polish sausage has made me very hungry...and I had eggs for breakfast! I LOVE burned Kielbasa...
	♥ 10:47am Passaic River Blues: Never heard this Russell before; it's pretty much perfect. Trouble, you are a treasure! I have been clinging to WFMU like wreckage in a storm. With all other media broadcasting an unremittingly bleak horror show, thank you for the lovely counter-programming.
	10:48am Chris from DC: ESG, nice.
	10:48am annie: there's nothing so sad as having to clean up dried overly-applied caulk. thin bead, then swipe; how difficult is that?
	10:50am βrian: @PRB: Yes. I used to check the news regularly. Now I'm adrift, not knowing what to do. Everybody, from co-workers to bus riders, is downcast and silent.
	10:50am Wild Neil: @Passaic River Blues-commercial radio really really really sucks....I tried listening to it with my son on the way to Ontraio and was forced to go back to talk radio as it was far more interesting.
	♥ 10:50am Trouble: merci passaic river bluesd. bought the new zadie smaith yet? it came out yesterday. this month is getting away from me
	10:50am emily: Hello Trouble! am loving the show. Arthur Russell into ESG. Who could ask for anything more?
	♥ 10:51am Trouble: bonjour emily! merci
	10:52am βrian: Hamlet's father died because of talk radio.
	10:52am Wild Neil: I sometimes listen to a Canadian talk radio that is liberal.
	♥ 10:52am Sem Chumbo: hahaha @ βrian.
	10:54am Wild Neil: Wasn't Arto Lindsay with the Golden Palaminos for one of their records?
	♥ 10:56am Ĩkє: @Neil, Canadian liberal talk radio?!? What a concept. We clearly disagree on a lot, but I am heartened that you come here civilly and get along, and that you listen to both sides. The biggest problem might be each side engaging in its own self-imposed media blackout (and fake news stories made up by Macedonian teens as clickbait for Americans... yes, that's a thing).
	♥ 10:56am Trouble: yes he was wild neil
	♥ 10:57am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: I'm in the same boat, haven't picked it up yet. But I will! I liked her NYRB article about Brexit--wondering how she'll tackle the Trumpening. @βrian: Love it.
	11:00am Brendan: Hello Trouble and All. Sounds good to me.
	♥ 11:00am Trouble: passaic river blues, i haven't read on beauty or autograph man yet, so i thought i should start one of those first. right now i am entranced in muriel barbery 'the life of elves'
	11:01am βrian: This is a time for elf reflection.
	11:04am JakeGould: So happy to have been emergency alerted.
	11:08am sugarwolf: 16!! Happy birthday DJ Icepack!!!
	♥ 11:08am Passaic River Blues: I read "On Beauty" and "Autograph Man" when they came out in paperback a long time ago. I haven't read anything she's published since. In my admittedly foggy memory, I recall liking them both, "On Beauty" more than "Autograph Man", but much preferred "White Teeth" to both. I will certainly look into Muriel Barbery, and any other book recommended by yourself!
	11:10am Listener Robert: Remember the 1st time they used (not just tested) the EAS, at least in NY metro? It was the early 1990s to alert of a tropical depression or nor'easter -- a garden variety cyclone that mostly meant a lot of rain, we'd had MUCH more severe weather many times in the past. But they'd never used the EAS (or its predecessor EBS) for it before. The difference seemed to be that until the Berlin Wall & USSR were gone, they were afraid that the EAS would spook people into thinking it was a nuclear war, which is after all the primary reason it was instituted. In the years since, it's gotten very little use. I think maybe a reason they used it that time was to make sure people would NOT panic from residual cold war fears.
	11:10am Brendan: Im the same - i don't look at the calendar much and the trees seem to still have most of their leaves so Im living on October time.
	11:12am meredith: This is very interesting when listening w/ headphones in a shared office space. Thanks for YLT this am and Helado Negro. Helado is a new favorite thanks to you Trouble!!!
	11:13am Rev. Turnip Druid: jeezus. office culture changing over here; seems i can only manage a few minutes of headphone time every 2 hours. beh. I have missed everything.
	11:14am Jeff: Apropos of your discussion of "first cut roulette": note that the first/title cut on Leonard Cohen's recent and sadly now last album "You Want It Darker" is compelling, and in keeping with these dark times. There's a burned CD of that album in the New Bin.
	11:17am Bill W: Bonjour, Trouble & all! I will be spending NoThanksGiving in London (first visit!) next week, sorry to miss the show then... I may even return to the USA if I am not offered a country estate in Shropshire.
	11:18am Slim Pickins: wassup YA'LL
	11:18am Wild Neil: @Listener Robert-I was working for a guy making concrete dinosaur bones in the village and clearly heard the EAS say there would be a tornado watch in manhattan. We rode our bikes around warning people at the top of our lungs....in the driving rain.... @Chester-what do you DO? For WORK that is....just wondering....
	♥ 11:19am Trouble: good for you bill w!!! enjoy!
	11:23am Slim Pickins: Re-listening to that Alex Barck track right now - FIRE!
	♥ 11:25am Trouble: @ passaic river blues NW by zadie smith was fabulous!!
	♥ 11:26am Brian in UK: Hello Trouble. Chickens off lay due to change in season and clocks. I am sure they will pick up soon.
	11:26am Rev. Turnip Druid: @Bill W: for the love of dog, take me with you. Or email mushy peas ASAP. @Neil: graphic design & data-viz for publications & social media (just trying to put the dog thru college) ... But headphone-time has become more precious of late..
	♥ 11:28am Brian in UK: @Bill W Shropshire is a lovely county, out of time, like it is still in the Fifties. You might need to marry into a family there to achieve your goal.
	11:28am Rev. Turnip Druid: Gomez still needs to phone Bosco & officially concede the mascot race. Things were tense. I blame gerrymandering.
	♥ 11:28am Trouble: hey brian in UK; mine went wonky at first but yes they are back to nearly one a day again
	11:30am βrian: The neighbors hens quit laying after November 8.
	♥ 11:31am Brian in UK: Hey everybody, buy one less present for the forthcoming celebrations and put the money by for Marchs marathon .We are going to need every cent.
	11:32am Faye: hi trouble!! playing you loud & clear for my office today :)
	♥ 11:35am Brian in UK: @Wild Neil where were you? www.bbc.co.uk...
	♥ 11:36am Trouble: thanks for sharing the love, faye!!
	11:37am Slaboch: Great show today!!!
	11:38am Chris M.: i played this song a long time ago on my show and couldn't remember the name of it. it was driving me absolutely crazy for the last month. i can't believe you're playing it now. thanks.
	11:40am annie: i really like this song..^
	11:43am Wild Neil: Mad Men. @Brian-sorry you had a tornado brah,....that sucks.
	11:47am βrian: A "caravan park" seems vaguely romantic, doesn't it? It evokes a line of dromedaries silhouetted against a sandy horizon.
	♥ 11:51am Goyim in the AM: That amazing Elyse Weinberg song sent me poking around on the web just now and I found a track or two off of her 2009 comeback record under that name -- except for the production, it surprisingly really failed to suck. Back to listening to the Mighty Fun 91.
	11:57am Brendan: That song should play when you open the dictionary to the word pretty
	♥ 11:57am Trouble: thanks for sitting in, till next week my friends!
	11:58am Adrian in London: Working today so no chatting but that was a lovely show. Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am Jeff: Much of this show has been so lovely and light - it's been balm for a bruised soul.
	♥ 11:59am Passaic River Blues: Thank you, Trouble. I've got more music and books to investigate!
	♥ 12:00pm Priscilla: Thanks, Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 17, 2016

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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November 17, 2016: from the ghetto walls to the rich domain

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
shore to shore	second side (excerpt)	four views of a three sided garden	the bridge sessions			*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
robert stillman	time of waves "time of waves" by "robert stillman"	orindal records MMXVI	orindal			*	0:06:37 (Pop-up)
anne gillis	#7-9 lxgrin "#7-9 lxgrin" by "anne gillis"	archives box 1983/2005	art into life		1984	*	0:13:43 (Pop-up)
laurie spiegel	east river dawn "east river dawn" by "laurie spiegel"	the expanding universe	unseen worlds records				0:22:14 (Pop-up)
east river pipe	40 miles "40 miles" by "east river pipe"	goodbye california	sarah records				0:36:13 (Pop-up)

Francoise Hardy	je changerai d'avis	la maison ou j'ai grandi	future days	1966		*	0:47:19 (Pop-up)
Shana Falana	you did "you did" by "Shana Falana"	here comes the wave	team love			*	0:49:18 (Pop-up)
zomby	glass "glass" by "zomby"	ultra	hyperdub			*	0:52:35 (Pop-up)
yishak banjaw	libey ma'adulaey "libey ma'adulaey" by "yishak banjaw"	love songs vol 2	teranga beat			*	0:57:01 (Pop-up)
syrinx	ibistix "ibistix" by "syrinx"	Tumblers from the Vault 1970-72	RVNG Intl.			*	1:01:24 (Pop-up)
african head charge	Snake In The Goal	return of the crocodile	on-U sound	1981-86		*	1:09:27 (Pop-up)
perry lederman	one kind favor "one kind favor" by "perry lederman"	imaginational anthem vol 8: the private press v/a	Tompkins Square			*	1:14:14 (Pop-up)
Yo La tengo	to love somebody "to love somebody" by "Yo La tengo"	Murder In The Second Degree	egon			*	1:16:00 (Pop-up)
kathryn williams	soul to feet "soul to feet" by "kathryn williams"	little black numbers	caw records				1:19:21 (Pop-up)
helado negro	tartamudo "tartamudo" by "helado negro"	private energy	Asthmatic Kitty			*	1:22:58 (Pop-up)
campos	miracles & criminals "miracles & criminals" by "campos"	Miracles & Criminals	calle de campos/peace & rhythm			*	1:27:49 (Pop-up)
ariel kalma	casiopee "casiopee" by "ariel kalma"	Interfrequence	black sweat	1980		*	1:29:47 (Pop-up)

Angkanang Kunchai	dontan modern "dontan modern" by "Angkanang Kunchai"	never forget me	Em			*	1:38:11 (Pop-up)
arthur russell	i like you! "i like you!" by "arthur russell"	calling out of context	audika				1:41:41 (Pop-up)
esg	be good to me "be good to me" by "esg"	step off	soul jazz records				1:46:32 (Pop-up)
serge gainsbourg	angoisse "angoisse" by "serge gainsbourg"	du jazz dans le ravin	philips				1:50:29 (Pop-up)
arto lindsay	ridiculously deep "ridiculously deep" by "arto lindsay"	encyclopedia of arto	northern spy				1:53:00 (Pop-up)
alex barck	re-set feat pete joseph	Turntables On The Hudson Vol. 10: Uptown Downtown (V/A)	wonderwheel recordings			*	2:01:07 (Pop-up)

hope sandoval and the warm inventions	into the trees	until the hunter	tendril tales			*	2:08:03 (Pop-up)
marie-paul belle	loin "loin" by "marie-paul belle"	marie-paul belle	okapi				2:17:06 (Pop-up)
st etienne feat Q-tee	filthy "filthy" by "st etienne feat Q-tee"	Perfect Motion John Savage's Secret History of the 2nd Wave 1988-93	caroline true			*	2:19:59 (Pop-up)
anita o'day & the three sounds	whisper not	anita O'day and the three sounds	verve				2:25:09 (Pop-up)
lillian vines	i dreamed about my baby last night	Follow Me to the Popcorn: The Untold History of Belgiums Popcorn Scene	jazzman			*	2:28:17 (Pop-up)
the baird sisters	after the work is done	until you find your green	ba da bing!			*	2:30:20 (Pop-up)
adrian younge	systems "systems" by "adrian younge"	The Electronic Void Black Noise	linear labs			*	2:35:11 (Pop-up)
elyse weinberg	houses "houses" by "elyse weinberg"	greasepaint smile	numerophon				2:36:21 (Pop-up)
Baden Powell	encosta pra ve se da	estudios	MPS				2:39:01 (Pop-up)
dorothy ashby	autumn in rome "autumn in rome" by "dorothy ashby"	in a minor groove	prestige records				2:42:39 (Pop-up)
the bennett's	i want a little girl	Afterschool Special: The 123s of Kid Soul v/a	numero group			*	2:47:35 (Pop-up)
`mary lou williams	carcinoma "carcinoma" by "`mary lou williams"	mary lou willimas and orchestra	stinson records		red vinyl!		2:51:30 (Pop-up)
margo guryan	love songs "love songs" by "margo guryan"	take a picture	franklion castle				2:53:33 (Pop-up)
leonore boulanger	tornade "tornade" by "leonore boulanger"	feigen feigen	le saule/ windbell			*	2:56:43 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 9:02am guy mauve: Good morning, ye Troubleminded
	♥ 9:03am Dave in Vermont: Thanks, Trouble.
	♥ 9:03am rebuketodali: Good morning, Trouble! I've had to teach during your new time slot, but my class ended last week! So nice to be able to listen live again.
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: good morning thursday! this morning's artwork is by Zak Prekop
	♥ 9:04am Sem Chumbo: Hello, Trouble, and good morning. I'm a sucker for viridian anything.
	9:06am sphere: hi trouble. im on my way back.
	9:06am northguineahills: Is Zak Prekop related to Sam Prekop?
	9:07am Bronwyn Bishop: morning trouble, morning pals
	9:08am doca: For a moment I thought that that bass note was the beginning of Don Cherry's rendition of Malkauns. Hello, Trouble and friends!
	9:08am annie: good morning trouble!!
	♥ 9:08am Trouble: don't know, northguinea hills.
	♥ 9:13am Trouble: fair warning: I will be sitting in this chair next thursday, hopefully aiding your meal prep or transportation nightmares, which ever you have chosen
	♥ 9:15am Ken From Hyde Park: Excellent news ... music to stuff turkeys by!
	9:15am Adrian in London: Hi Trouble. In Tate Modern having a coffee. Enjoying the drifts and drones in my ears right now.
	♥ 9:16am Dave in Vermont: @Trouble. Thank God.
	9:17am JakeGould: Hey! Hello! But wait... Why would we assume you would not be here next Thursday?
	9:20am chromaphone: This sounds really neat in headphones.
	9:21am mauri: sounds like someone showering next door.
	9:25am sugarwolf: Hello all
	9:27am farmer_k8: nice sounds for this foggy morning!
	9:28am chromaphone: Good old pentatonic scale :)
	♥ 9:34am Guido from Cologne: Hello Trouble!
	♥ 9:36am MD: Good Morning all! My wife saw an article this morning stating that the NSA has concluded the election servers were hacked by Our Friends in the Kremlin...OH Well! What can you do!!!???
	♥ 9:37am Sem Chumbo: @doca 10:08.: just back from the garden, hello! How's Porto Alegre today?
	9:38am Chris from DC: Yay, ERP.
	♥ 9:40am MD: Joining the ACLU only costs 20 bux...or what ever you can afford...It is worth it...we have to FIGHT!!!
	9:40am JakeGould: @MD: Election servers were not hacked. The report is about the timing of WikiLeaks information. If actual polling machines were hacked outright don't you think there would be bigger news? The "hack" was simply that WikiLeaks got information and that was leaked at just the right time to discredit Clinton. A bigger "hack" is the FBI chief gossiping about nothing in the days before the election. These are not "hacks" but rather politics as usual but with new fancy tools.
	♥ 9:45am melinda: hello! I still feel like crap too!
	♥ 9:45am rebuketodali: Amen to that, Trouble! Yep, feeling crappy but still fighting.
	♥ 9:45am Planet Tyler: malaise is an understatement...
	♥ 9:46am MD: M = 1000
	9:47am annie: I V X L C D M= 1,5,10,50,100,1000
	♥ 9:47am MD: M = 1000 C=100 CM=1900
	♥ 9:48am MD: NO WAIT ...900!!! SRY!
	♥ 9:48am MD: CMM=1900.......................I WILL STOP NOW...
	9:49am AndrewC.: bottom line is: MMXVI = 2016
	♥ 9:49am Ike: Crap and malaise don't even begin to cover it. More like a black storm front of imminent nuclear doom looming over our heads every second of every day and/or the absolute and final discrediting of democracy worldwide. (China can now point at us and say, "See? It doesn't work. You don't want that. You end up with maniacs running things." China will now never have a democratic revolution.)
	♥ 9:49am tiago: je jamais changerais d'avis sur ton programme Trouble :)
	9:51am annie: Civil Eats did a great short write-up on what Mr Trump can and cannot do to agencies such as the EPA(evil as it is).
	♥ 9:51am Priscilla: Watching Stephen Colbert helps a bit, but we are still trapped in a nightmare.
	♥ 9:51am Trouble: merci tiago, tu est gentil
	♥ 9:52am MD: MMXVI...Great message Board Name!!!
	9:52am Rev. Turnip Druid: friends.
	9:55am Chris from DC: Th'Rev
	♥ 9:56am Planet Tyler: @Ike: At least nuclear winter will take care of global warming
	♥ 10:04am Adrian in London: One thing that really took my mind off the Apocalypse was the Japanese film Our Little Sister, from the director of I Wish and Like father, Like Son. It's beautiful and is full of kindness, ever so slightly soapy but with a deeper core than that. Best film I've seen in ages.
	♥ 10:06am Trouble: thanks for that suggestion adrian, and i am so jealous of you walking around the tate this morning...
	♥ 10:07am MD: We need to keep up PMA...Positive Mental Attitude...I know it's hard...Monsters sometimes do eat themselves...
	♥ 10:08am Trouble: happy to have you all here!!
	10:09am Wild Neil: PEACE all. Currently writing up creative ways to better explain "why was I fired"....still looking for work, getting some interviews. Yes, I am on medicaid and food stamps. Still looking for a mechanical engineering position near Buffalo, NY. Built a fire pit for free a few weeks ago, will have friends over to burn kielbasa chunks on friday, then marshmallows...it is a one meter pit inside a two meter pit, so it can handle a normal fire or a huge bonfire.
	10:11am βrian: Vague, indeterminate skies over the Isthmus today. The gravity remains oppressive, sadly.
	10:14am JakeGould: Folks, remember to support each other even more than usual nowadays. And don't forget mid-term elections as well.
	10:16am βrian: We haven't decided on the TG meal yet. Lasagna or cold millet gruel?
	♥ 10:17am Priscilla: Last time I was fired, I told my prospective employer I was "between jobs". There's the "department reorganization" excuse, which is what was used to fire me.
	10:17am sphere: i adore this Bee Gees song.
	10:17am Rarouse: Yayay so good music this morning, thank you Trouble:)
	10:18am Wild Neil: This Yo La Tengo is delightfully naive and plaintive sounding! @Priscilla-thats pretty good, I think I will use that! I am sending these to a fellow unemployed lawyer who is good at "telling the truth while putting myself in the best possible light!"
	♥ 10:20am Whosondephone: Yo La Tengo the best band ever.
	10:20am annie: i finally saw "Swiss Army Man" last night..i did NOT grok it at all.
	♥ 10:21am Priscilla: Best of luck, Neil. After several layoffs/firings, I can say it's usually a blessing.
	10:21am sphere: Speaking of "grok," I have heard that SyFy wants to adapt Stranger in a Strange Land to cable.
	10:22am Listener142985: This Kathryn Williams sounds great right now.
	10:23am βrian: The "between universes" explanation is always compelling, too.
	♥ 10:24am 1ke: I second the "company was reorganized" thing. I've used that.
	10:24am JakeGould: Stop saying "grok."
	10:24am Wild Neil: @Priscilla-yeah, the work conditions were awesome and I managed myself, but nobody really helped me with my projects at all! Well I had SOME help from my boss designing one of them, but its really really really hard to invent new products....as somebody has probably had the same good ideas!
	10:24am annie: @sphere: i'd SO watch that
	10:25am βrian: As in, its atoms were reorganized? That's a pretty good euphemism. Extra credit for creativity is due.
	10:25am Wild Neil: Grok is so 1974. Like "I grok Spock".... Stranger in a Strange Land really made me think when I was 16....Heinlien wrote some really warped sex stuff involving incest with a daughter later on....he was kind of a perv really...
	10:26am annie: @Jake: i will never stop using that word, it is one of the finest concepts to come out of literature.
	10:26am βrian: Yup, I've worked in orgs where they think the hire is the end of the process. Then stuff is supposed to happen — by magic!
	10:29am annie: i've been lucky enough with jobs to have my position labelled "autonomous".
	10:29am SeanG: if i can recall Wild Neil, weren't you a trump supporter?
	10:30am βrian: Francophones: Can one say, "Mon emploi est temporairement en déplacement"?
	10:30am βrian: @Annie: way better than "autumnal."
	10:30am JakeGould: I hate "grok" since I do tech work and 9 times out of 10 techs who casually say "grok" have utterly no idea what they are talking about. Just my 2 cents.
	10:33am annie: i dig it jake, and i feel that pain. it's the same feeling i get when i hear "Who's John Galt?" mis-used
	10:34am βrian: Who's Paul Ryan?
	10:34am Wild Neil: @SeanG-yes, I am pro life so I supported Trump and still do. If anybody wishes to discuss this further, click on my profile and email me. That would be the correct forum to discuss this. I think it would bum out Trouble to have a heated political discussion in here.... @Trouble-trying to deflect here, please notice. Lving the music, keep it coming! Trying to keep on discussing innocuous subjects here on your board!
	10:35am JakeGould: @annie: Ha! Make things even worse in had to clean up some work. Utter crap. Put back in touch with original tech. Nice fella, but he also wrote a book about tech stuff I have read. And he had no clue. And he said "grok." And it's like I trust no tech books anymore.
	10:37am annie: it's similar to the contra-dancer's advice: musicians shouldn't dance
	10:37am Chris from DC: I look forward to hearing FMU over the actual airwaves in a few hours.
	♥ 10:38am Fuzzy: Double-U! Not Dubba-ya! Argh! Bush/Palin flashbacks!
	10:38am βrian: Carpenters shouldn't paint. That I know.
	10:40am annie: brian, as an ex-painter i can certainly attest to that; we always had to keep the brush out of reach
	10:41am kevlicki: Morning trouble and all!
	10:44am βrian: And they tend to handle caulk guns as if they were Uzis. .... "Put the caulk gun down!"
	10:46am Wild Neil: Writing about burning Polish sausage has made me very hungry...and I had eggs for breakfast! I LOVE burned Kielbasa...
	♥ 10:47am Passaic River Blues: Never heard this Russell before; it's pretty much perfect. Trouble, you are a treasure! I have been clinging to WFMU like wreckage in a storm. With all other media broadcasting an unremittingly bleak horror show, thank you for the lovely counter-programming.
	10:48am Chris from DC: ESG, nice.
	10:48am annie: there's nothing so sad as having to clean up dried overly-applied caulk. thin bead, then swipe; how difficult is that?
	10:50am βrian: @PRB: Yes. I used to check the news regularly. Now I'm adrift, not knowing what to do. Everybody, from co-workers to bus riders, is downcast and silent.
	10:50am Wild Neil: @Passaic River Blues-commercial radio really really really sucks....I tried listening to it with my son on the way to Ontraio and was forced to go back to talk radio as it was far more interesting.
	♥ 10:50am Trouble: merci passaic river bluesd. bought the new zadie smaith yet? it came out yesterday. this month is getting away from me
	10:50am emily: Hello Trouble! am loving the show. Arthur Russell into ESG. Who could ask for anything more?
	♥ 10:51am Trouble: bonjour emily! merci
	10:52am βrian: Hamlet's father died because of talk radio.
	10:52am Wild Neil: I sometimes listen to a Canadian talk radio that is liberal.
	♥ 10:52am Sem Chumbo: hahaha @ βrian.
	10:54am Wild Neil: Wasn't Arto Lindsay with the Golden Palaminos for one of their records?
	♥ 10:56am Ĩkє: @Neil, Canadian liberal talk radio?!? What a concept. We clearly disagree on a lot, but I am heartened that you come here civilly and get along, and that you listen to both sides. The biggest problem might be each side engaging in its own self-imposed media blackout (and fake news stories made up by Macedonian teens as clickbait for Americans... yes, that's a thing).
	♥ 10:56am Trouble: yes he was wild neil
	♥ 10:57am Passaic River Blues: @Trouble: I'm in the same boat, haven't picked it up yet. But I will! I liked her NYRB article about Brexit--wondering how she'll tackle the Trumpening. @βrian: Love it.
	11:00am Brendan: Hello Trouble and All. Sounds good to me.
	♥ 11:00am Trouble: passaic river blues, i haven't read on beauty or autograph man yet, so i thought i should start one of those first. right now i am entranced in muriel barbery 'the life of elves'
	11:01am βrian: This is a time for elf reflection.
	11:04am JakeGould: So happy to have been emergency alerted.
	11:08am sugarwolf: 16!! Happy birthday DJ Icepack!!!
	♥ 11:08am Passaic River Blues: I read "On Beauty" and "Autograph Man" when they came out in paperback a long time ago. I haven't read anything she's published since. In my admittedly foggy memory, I recall liking them both, "On Beauty" more than "Autograph Man", but much preferred "White Teeth" to both. I will certainly look into Muriel Barbery, and any other book recommended by yourself!
	11:10am Listener Robert: Remember the 1st time they used (not just tested) the EAS, at least in NY metro? It was the early 1990s to alert of a tropical depression or nor'easter -- a garden variety cyclone that mostly meant a lot of rain, we'd had MUCH more severe weather many times in the past. But they'd never used the EAS (or its predecessor EBS) for it before. The difference seemed to be that until the Berlin Wall & USSR were gone, they were afraid that the EAS would spook people into thinking it was a nuclear war, which is after all the primary reason it was instituted. In the years since, it's gotten very little use. I think maybe a reason they used it that time was to make sure people would NOT panic from residual cold war fears.
	11:10am Brendan: Im the same - i don't look at the calendar much and the trees seem to still have most of their leaves so Im living on October time.
	11:12am meredith: This is very interesting when listening w/ headphones in a shared office space. Thanks for YLT this am and Helado Negro. Helado is a new favorite thanks to you Trouble!!!
	11:13am Rev. Turnip Druid: jeezus. office culture changing over here; seems i can only manage a few minutes of headphone time every 2 hours. beh. I have missed everything.
	11:14am Jeff: Apropos of your discussion of "first cut roulette": note that the first/title cut on Leonard Cohen's recent and sadly now last album "You Want It Darker" is compelling, and in keeping with these dark times. There's a burned CD of that album in the New Bin.
	11:17am Bill W: Bonjour, Trouble & all! I will be spending NoThanksGiving in London (first visit!) next week, sorry to miss the show then... I may even return to the USA if I am not offered a country estate in Shropshire.
	11:18am Slim Pickins: wassup YA'LL
	11:18am Wild Neil: @Listener Robert-I was working for a guy making concrete dinosaur bones in the village and clearly heard the EAS say there would be a tornado watch in manhattan. We rode our bikes around warning people at the top of our lungs....in the driving rain.... @Chester-what do you DO? For WORK that is....just wondering....
	♥ 11:19am Trouble: good for you bill w!!! enjoy!
	11:23am Slim Pickins: Re-listening to that Alex Barck track right now - FIRE!
	♥ 11:25am Trouble: @ passaic river blues NW by zadie smith was fabulous!!
	♥ 11:26am Brian in UK: Hello Trouble. Chickens off lay due to change in season and clocks. I am sure they will pick up soon.
	11:26am Rev. Turnip Druid: @Bill W: for the love of dog, take me with you. Or email mushy peas ASAP. @Neil: graphic design & data-viz for publications & social media (just trying to put the dog thru college) ... But headphone-time has become more precious of late..
	♥ 11:28am Brian in UK: @Bill W Shropshire is a lovely county, out of time, like it is still in the Fifties. You might need to marry into a family there to achieve your goal.
	11:28am Rev. Turnip Druid: Gomez still needs to phone Bosco & officially concede the mascot race. Things were tense. I blame gerrymandering.
	♥ 11:28am Trouble: hey brian in UK; mine went wonky at first but yes they are back to nearly one a day again
	11:30am βrian: The neighbors hens quit laying after November 8.
	♥ 11:31am Brian in UK: Hey everybody, buy one less present for the forthcoming celebrations and put the money by for Marchs marathon .We are going to need every cent.
	11:32am Faye: hi trouble!! playing you loud & clear for my office today :)
	♥ 11:35am Brian in UK: @Wild Neil where were you? www.bbc.co.uk...
	♥ 11:36am Trouble: thanks for sharing the love, faye!!
	11:37am Slaboch: Great show today!!!
	11:38am Chris M.: i played this song a long time ago on my show and couldn't remember the name of it. it was driving me absolutely crazy for the last month. i can't believe you're playing it now. thanks.
	11:40am annie: i really like this song..^
	11:43am Wild Neil: Mad Men. @Brian-sorry you had a tornado brah,....that sucks.
	11:47am βrian: A "caravan park" seems vaguely romantic, doesn't it? It evokes a line of dromedaries silhouetted against a sandy horizon.
	♥ 11:51am Goyim in the AM: That amazing Elyse Weinberg song sent me poking around on the web just now and I found a track or two off of her 2009 comeback record under that name -- except for the production, it surprisingly really failed to suck. Back to listening to the Mighty Fun 91.
	11:57am Brendan: That song should play when you open the dictionary to the word pretty
	♥ 11:57am Trouble: thanks for sitting in, till next week my friends!
	11:58am Adrian in London: Working today so no chatting but that was a lovely show. Thanks Trouble!
	11:59am Jeff: Much of this show has been so lovely and light - it's been balm for a bruised soul.
	♥ 11:59am Passaic River Blues: Thank you, Trouble. I've got more music and books to investigate!
	♥ 12:00pm Priscilla: Thanks, Trouble!

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