Give The Drummer Some with Doug Schulkind Favoriting
Doug Schulkind's avatar View Doug Schulkind's profile Favoriting
Listen to the stream right now
Friday 9am - Noon (EDT) | On WFMU's Give the Drummer Radio
Give the Drummer Radio LIVE Audio Streams (Get help):   Pop-up  |  128k MP3
Hear the show    in   Pop-up listen Pop-up player!

November 18, 2016 Favoriting
You make me feel mighty reel
Add or read comments

Artist Selection Album    (Label / Recording date)
Theme Music:
 Sarah Webster Fabio  		Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues   Favoriting Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues
(Folkways 1976)
ECD  In Tempo   Favoriting Major Force: The Original Art-Form
(Mo' Wax 1990)

Olga Douli  Siga Miga/Karsilamas   Favoriting Women of Rembetika
(JSP )
Hafiz Burhan  Çargah Gazel Tempolu   Favoriting Great Voices of Constantinople 1927-1933
(Rounder )
Unnamed group from northern Epirus  Stis Deropolis Ton Kambo   Favoriting Five Days Married & Other Laments:
Song and Dance from Northern Greece, 1928-1958
(Angry Mom Archives 1958)
Sotiria Bellou  Katsivela   Favoriting On 78rpm 1947-1954
(Echo Arts )
A. Kostis  Toumbeleki   Favoriting Café Rembetika: Birth of the Greek Blues
(Nascente )
Stratos Pajioumdzis  Manés Peiraiótikos   Favoriting Rembetica in Piraeus: 1933-1937
(Heritage )

Talkover Music:
 DJ Gregory  		Block Party   Favoriting Hi-Life: An Uplifting Selection of Afro-House Grooves
(Fuego 2002)

Red Mack & His Trumpet  Just Like Two Drops of Water   Favoriting b/w Mr. Big Head
(Mercury 1951)
The Speer Family  Dig a Little Deeper   Favoriting The Speer Family Album
(RCA Victor 1955)
The Squires  Do-Be-Do-Be-Wop-Wop   Favoriting b/w Sindy
(Mambo 1955)
Pvt. Cecil Gant  I Wonder   Favoriting b/w Cecil Boogie
(Bronze 1944)
Smokey Johnson  I Can't Help It (pt. 1)   Favoriting b/w I Can't Help It (pt. 2)
(Nola 1966)
Menard Rogers  Good Food, I Am For You   Favoriting b/w I Still Love You (In the Same Old Way)
(Margaret )
Jack Costanzo, Mr. Bongo  Chicken and Rice   Favoriting b/w Evil Ways
( Discomoda )
Jackie & the Starlites  Chi-Po-Po-Baby   Favoriting
(Mascot 1963)

Talkover Music:
 Obeng Ungu & Jalan Buntu  		Rabu: Sakit Tangani   Favoriting 1951: Sumatran Ladies Wearing Hats as Outlawed By Government
(Hot Air 2001)

New Art Jazz Ensemble  Song of the Unsung   Favoriting Seeking
(Revelation 1969)
Andrew Drury  Some Powerful Women / Why   Favoriting A Momentary Lapse
(Innova 2003)
Jimmy Giuffre  Pharaoh   Favoriting Music for Brass
(Columbia 1957)
Wallgren-Ernryd-Niebergall-Sjökvist  Ballade An Der Ruhr   Favoriting Ballade An Der Ruhr
(Dragon 1979)

Talkover Music:
 Bud Powell  		Comin' Up   Favoriting The Scene Changes
(Blue Note 1958)

Sunny Blacks Band  Dinvile   Favoriting b/w Mi Fon To O
(Badejo Sound Studio late-1960s)
Fatai Rolling Dollar w/Opotopo (Easy Kabaka Brown)  Won Bum   Favoriting
(Philips 1976)
G.G. Vikey et sa Guitare Africaine  Je Vous Remercie   Favoriting Vive l'Afrique!
(Rivièrafrique )
Zeal Onyia & His Music  Idegbani   Favoriting Nigeria 70: Sweet Times: Afro-Funk, Highlife & Juju from 1970s Lagos
(Strut )
Sweet Breeze  She's My Choice   Favoriting Across the Desert
(Feathers 1976)
Thony Shorby Nyenwi  People in the World   Favoriting Sweet Funk Music
(Feathers 1978)

Talkover Music:
 Balsara & His Singing Sitars  		My Favorite Things   Favoriting The Sound of Music
(Odeon 1967)

Sonora Tropical  Lluvia   Favoriting Charanguera
(Los Meros Meros de la Cumbia )
Alfredo Gutierrez  Suavecito   Favoriting Los Meros Meros de la Cumbia
(Doblon 1982)
Banda 20 De Julio De Repelón  Rosalba   Favoriting The Afrosound of Colombia, Volume 2
(Vampi Soul )
Meridian Brothers  Los Falsos Reyes Magos   Favoriting Devoción (Works 2005-2011)
(Staubgold )
Messie Boogaloo  El Vacile Del Hueso   Favoriting Champeta Criolla Volume 2:
Visionary Black Music From Underground Columbiafrica
(Palenque 2001)
Zurita  Llega Fauna   Favoriting Cumbia! Bestial
(Chusma 2010)
Dick El Demasiado  Llo or Gu   Favoriting Pero Peinamos Gratis
(Tomenota 2004)

Talkover Music:
 Skeletons  		Mulatu   Favoriting Smile
(Impossible Ark 2010)

The Lost Generation  Talking the Teenage Language   Favoriting Young, Tough and Terrible
(Brunswick 1972)
The Cooperettes  Shing-a-Ling   Favoriting b/w (Life Has) No Meaning Now
(Brunswick 1967)
David Porter  The Masquerade Is Over   Favoriting b/w Hang On Sloopy
(Enterprise 1972)
Eddie Carlton  Misery   Favoriting b/w It Will Be Done
(Swan 1965)
Dave Mitchell & Screamer  The Trip   Favoriting b/w Hang in There
(MET 1965)
The Congenial Four  You Played the Part (of a Loser)   Favoriting b/w Freedom Song
(Capitol 1970)
Bernard Smith & Jokers Wild  Gotta Be a Reason   Favoriting b/w 39-21-46
(Groove 1968)
The Cadets  What Are We Made Of   Favoriting Funk, Soul & Afro Rarities:
An Introduction to ATA Records
(Here & Now 2014)
Ben & Spence  L-O-V-E (Love)   Favoriting Hall of Fame Volume 3:
More Rare and Unissued Gems from the FAME Vaults
(Ace )

Closing Theme:
 John Lee Hooker  		Stand By   Favoriting I Feel Good
(Jewel 1971)

Listener comments!

Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 8:51am Brian in UK:

I feel so reel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 8:53am Doug Schulkind:

Really?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 8:59am Dave in Vermont:

hey hi
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:00am Doug Schulkind:

Green Mountain Man!
Avatar 9:00am mauri:

tsaudibaudi guys.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:01am doctorjazz:

It's Friday, Drummer time!
Avatar 9:01am ndbob:

morning Doug and everyone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:02am Doug Schulkind:

Some doctors go golfing. Other doctors go...

Howdy, mauri!

Glad you're here, ndbob!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:02am guy mauve:

Good morning Doug and all GTDS aficionados, from Toronto
  9:02am Jeff g.:

I love it when I'm here for the show intro.
Avatar 9:03am annie:

good morning all!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:04am Doug Schulkind:

Good guys listen to Give the Drummer Some.

Good Jeffs listen to Give the Drummer Some.

Goodness, it's annie! Listening to Give the Drummer Some!
Avatar 9:04am annie:

how unusual!
  9:05am Mr C:

From the heart of darkness we see the Drummer's light..
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:05am Alex In Illinois:

Good morning!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:06am Doug Schulkind:

Some audio elixirs for Alex in Illinois? Yup.
  9:08am Mr C:

Beauregard. How about that..
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:09am doctorjazz:

Saw a great show this week, Richard Thompson, he took requests from the audience on slips of paper, put them in a bowl and played the ones he picked. Great version of "You'll Never Walk Alone" off the cuff, also great "And Your Bird Will Sing", had some trouble with The BEatles "I Will", but it was really fun. Worth catching if he's in the neighborhood.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:11am Doug Schulkind:

I'd call him a racist pig, Mr C, but that would be an offense against pigs.

@doctorjazz
Sounds wonderful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:13am Dave in Vermont:

@Doug, I used to be on a roller derby team called the Mean Mountain Boys. we actually came down and skated against the New York Shock Exchange at the Gotham Girl's secret practice location in Brooklyn.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:16am Doug Schulkind:

I bet the team from my old borough was called the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:17am holland oats:

drumma! peoples! drumma! peoples! drumma! peoples! ∞
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:19am Doug Schulkind:

Ho ho ho! It's holland oats!
Avatar 9:24am ndbob:

excellent set here Doug!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:24am Jeff Golick:

The people of Greece know a thing or two about singing the blues.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:26am Doug Schulkind:

Thanks, ndbob! What culture doesn't sing the blues, Jeff Golick? Iberian flamenco. Irish sea shanty. Etc., etc.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:27am Brian in UK:

@Jeff they do need to get the builders in for some of those ruins in Athens.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:28am Jeff Golick:

If there is a culture that doesn't sing the blues, I'm sure I don't want to grab a drink with it.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:28am duke:

Morning Drummers
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:32am Jeff Golick:

Sunday company! I better clean the place up...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:33am Doug Schulkind:

duke on board!

Hello, Sir Brian!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:36am doctorjazz:

This Dig A Little Deeper is making me happy.
Avatar 9:38am still b/p:

I had to grab summa that Isaac Hayes on the main stream before having summa that Drumma, but here and good mornin' now..for an hour or so.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:38am Doug Schulkind:

Dig it, doc!
Avatar 9:38am annie:

this music is great! if anyone can get a chance to see "Waiting for the Light", the soundtrack to that is wonderful. same time period
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:40am doctorjazz:

Pvt Cecil Gant, a classic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:42am Doug Schulkind:

Man do I adore this song. So dreamy, but not creamy.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:45am doctorjazz:

Me too.
Avatar 9:47am still b/p:

Them R to Rs are playing separate tapes apparently, but the cords between looked at first glance like slacky tape in some multi-machine delay array gone wrong.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:51am Doug Schulkind:

I remember fondly creating long tape loops running tape between multiple decks. Some running many feet across a room. Good times! Hello, still b/p!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:54am Alex In Illinois:

The vocals on the Chi-Po-Po-Baby song are all in the left, while the instruments are on the right, so you can turn off the left to do karaoke or the right, to reuse the instrumental part.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 9:59am Doug Schulkind:

Probably a terribly mastered MP3, Alex in Illinois. So many of the tracks that get shared online are out of phase or worse. I take full responsibility. (Like I said, egg on my faith.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:01am Doug Schulkind:

Mistake alert...Mistake alert...
John Carter was from Texas (and boyhood friends with Ornette Coleman.) Bobby Bradford is from Mississippi. He met Coleman and Carter in Los Angeles.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:01am Artie Haywire:

Is this gif (hard G) running backwards, or are the reels on the left the take-up reels? Also, odd capstan/guide positioning. I'm all upside down. Good morning Drummers!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:02am Jeff Golick:

Great record. The drummer on "Unsung," Bruz/Buzz Freeman, is Von Freeman's brother.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:03am Jeff Golick:

Bobby Bradford, still out there making music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:04am Doug Schulkind:

Yup. Chico's uncle. Von Freeman was an unheard monster. Decided to keep his day job and remain in Chicago. His brother is Bruz. Hate them typos out there saying otherwise.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:05am Artie Haywire:

Lovely.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:08am Doug Schulkind:

Lovely to see you, Artie!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:12am Jeff Golick:

Brush with fame anecdote alert [BWFAA]: Drury's kid and my eldest were in the same childcare coop for a year. I regret not talking music with him; nice guy.
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:13am βrian:

Their keeping 'em in coops, these days? Oy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:14am Doug Schulkind:

The stupendous Eyvind Kang on violin here.

@βrian
You beat me to it.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:17am Jeff Golick:

That'll teach me not to avoid diacritics. (All the dia-critics come out of the woodwork!)

Here: coöp.
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:19am βrian:

We view this as mission-diacritical.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:21am Doug Schulkind:

Go ahead. Criticize: diaart.org
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:21am Brian in UK:

Talking of chickens, ours are starting into laying again. Two a day this last few days. After the clock changing malarkey.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:22am Brian in UK:

Jimmy Giuffre was sounding mighty unjazzified to me. No bad thing.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:24am Webhamster Henry:

Hi Doug and Drumsomes! Nice brassy set you got here!
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:24am βrian:

@BUK: I'm sure it was the U.S. election. Even chooks in the UK are tapped into the neural network.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:25am Sam Segal:

Peace be upon you, Doug and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:26am Doug Schulkind:

@Brian in UK
That track was coming out of the Third Stream tradition. It was a late-'50s/early-'60s movement that brought together elements of "jazz" and "classical."

Big warm welcome, Webhamster!

Big sloppy radio French kiss, Sam Segal!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:28am Doug Schulkind:

Here's a tissue, Sam.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:29am doctorjazz:

Ben Allison put out a fine tribute album recently to the Jimmy Guiffre Trio, worth checking out (saw them live, great show).
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:34am Little Danny:

G'morning Doug and all!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:35am Brian in UK:

Typo on previous mic break Sumatran......
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:37am βrian:

6 a.m.? That's mighty early. 5 a.m. CST, even!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:38am Doug Schulkind:

@Brian in UK
Right you are! Take another quid from the typo bowl!

The esteemed Daniel of Tinyville, Texas!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:40am Brian in UK:

Doug, that Rotten Stawberry from last week still wakes me up at night.

You know where all those quids went.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:42am Brian in UK:

Won Bum, Won Whirled, Won World Class Legal Mind.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:42am Doug Schulkind:

It gave you an upset tummy of the mind, Brian in UK.
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:49am βrian:

Typo on Remercie, Doug.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:53am Doug Schulkind:

@βrian
Yes! I am going to plant typos now, just to get everyone involved. Thanks!
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 10:54am βrian:

This is what we do. With wild eyes, we purge, purify, and cleanse the playlist!!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:57am Brian in UK:

My work here is dung.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:57am Doug Schulkind:

@βrian
Can you work on the new Cabinet please?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:58am Brian in UK:

...and when you have finished our shadow Labour Cabinet needs some sheen.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59am Parq:

Hi, Doug. Do you not like the idea of Scott Baio as Secretary of Defense?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:59am Doug Schulkind:

It's a small leap from mature to manure, Brian in UK.

Speaking of mature, it's Parq!
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:00am βrian:

They always check potential candidates against the Scott Walker recall signature list. (No lie.) So I'd be out of the running.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00am Parq:

No, wait, I've got that wrong. Baio is slated for Secretary of the Interior. The Nuge is going to be Sec of Defense.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00am Parq:

You realize, of course, Doug, that I had to read that twice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:05am Doug Schulkind:

Double takes are the best takes, Parq.
Avatar 11:17am northguineahills:

Never tire of the Meridian Bros. I also need to get my hands on that Afrosound of Colombia series...
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:18am βrian:

The taco truck outdoors is getting set up ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:18am Doug Schulkind:

Kissing democracy good Baio.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:19am Brian in UK:

WFMU's new pet is Bosco, I believe that was the name of Meghan's late lamented dog.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:20am Doug Schulkind:

Meghan will be doing two special shows on the Drummer Stream. On consecutive Sundays: 11 and 18 December. 2-6pm (ET)!
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:23am βrian:

Bosco, meet Fino!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:26am Jeff Golick:

Gotta go to parent/teacher conferences now. Wish us all luck.

Thanks, @Doug, for the musical balm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:28am Doug Schulkind:

Give the Drummer Some: Apply topically.

See ya, Daddy Golick!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28am Parq:

I knew a cat named Bosco. He was deranged.
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:28am βrian:

Parent / teacher conferences have become quite stressful in the open-carry states, I hear.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:29am Uncle Michael:

NEXT UP:

www.wfmu.org...
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:29am βrian:

Deranged? Or just a little mixed up? ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:34am Doug Schulkind:

Open-carry. We have gone completely bat-shit insane.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:36am Alex In Illinois:

I still gotta learn how to shing-a-ling!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:36am Doug Schulkind:

Apologies to all bats.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:36am Uncle Michael:

I still gotta get my shing-a-ling vaccine.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:37am doctorjazz:

There's a push to make open-carry federal, that is, even in states that don't permit it, it would be allowed, states couldn't restrict open carry. Just want to listen to music...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:38am Uncle Michael:

Suddenly state's rights aren't so important. I see how it is.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:39am Brian in UK:

Oxford Dictionaries have named 'post truth' as the word of the year. AKA lies.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:39am Uncle Michael:

Big gummint and activist judges are A-OK if that's where your bread is buttered.
  11:41am Listener Gregory:

"The Masquerade is Over" reminds me that Leon Russel sadly died this week. Great songwriter and one of the great rock-n-rollers, IMHO. (Apologies if this has been discussed; I've been on low volume today.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:41am Doug Schulkind:

Bassoon!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:42am Brian in UK:

Doug, then the flip side gives hope.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:42am Doug Schulkind:

Will rock & roll survive the loss of Leon Russell and Billy Miller?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:42am Uncle Michael:

Mac and Katie Basoon??
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:43am Doug Schulkind:

Mac and cheese bassoon. That's what I crave.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:47am Brian in UK:

Good work Mr DJ. Fractious music but no less enjoyable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:49am Doug Schulkind:

GIVE THE DRUMMER RADIO PROGRAMMING ALERT...
Uncle Michael will be serving up comfort food for the ears on Hinky Dinky Time, next on the Drummer Stream. (Please bring your own napkins.)

Playlist: wfmu.org...

Jason Elbogen will follow from 3-6pm with some lucious ear candy. (Please bring your own mental floss.)

Playlist: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:50am Uncle Michael:

I use a mint Q-tip after consuming ear candy.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:50am Brian in UK:

's' this is on me. Have a great weekend everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:50am Uncle Michael:

Well...near-mint.
  11:54am earrie:

T or M, time makes them better.
Late here, now.. another time.
Is it that time? Cheers
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:56am Doug Schulkind:

Awwright! earrie's here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:56am Doug Schulkind:

Sleep well, Rotten Strawberry in UK.
  11:57am earrie:

..and responding to an hour ago comment. Sheesh, me.
Yeah, time makes all the diff in mature + manure.
Avatar 11:57am ndbob:

excellent show Doug!
Avatar 11:58am annie:

ndbob!!! long time no see.!
Avatar 🥁 ♥ 11:58am βrian:

He came for the strawberry compote, and left with the strawberry compost.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:58am Uncle Michael:

See you all in the next room...thanks Doug!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:59am Rich in Washington:

Grateful for Friday radio peoples.
Friday's usually my day off but work has me putting in hours today.
Thanks, Doug!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:59am Brian in UK:

Thanks Doug, that was for your lusciousness.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:59am Doug Schulkind:

Did I miss you an hour ago, earrie?! My apologies!!
  11:59am Ramblin' Ray:

Thanks again again Doug & greetings fellow-Drummer earwiggers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:59am Doug Schulkind:

Greetings, groovings, Rich in Washington!
Avatar 12:00pm northguineahills:

Sorry, was in the middle of an interview. Thanks Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 12:01pm Doug Schulkind:

Ramblin' Ray! northguineahills! Nice to see you gents!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 12:01pm Doug Schulkind:

Thanks a godderned ton for listening y'all!
Post a comment!
Name:
Email address
(optional, not public):
Your comment: (No HTML, please)
Back to top
Gaze lovingly at my other playlists Take a gander at the WFMU Homepage
See other artists I've played

RSS feeds for Give The Drummer Some with Doug Schulkind: RSSPlaylists feed | RSSMP3 archives feed

email

Generated by KenzoDB, written 2000-2025 by Ken Garson