WFMU: Wake with Clay Pigeon: Playlist from January 3, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:03am JoelA: Guten morgen, Ken
	6:03am People Like Us: Morning! Thought I should let you know that for some reason today's programme's playlist is not showing up here: wfmu.org... - it's only clickable to here from the frontpage, etc.
	6:07am People Like Us: it's fixed now, but I suppose you know that!
	6:08am FƲFƲ (: Good morning, Kommissar Ken, Vicki, JoelA!
	6:09am Bethany Ryker: Those are some pretty kinetic GIFs for 6am....
	6:10am Ken From Hyde Park: Day two is going swimmingly thus far! Hi, all.
	6:12am -Ken: Hi everybody, thanks so much for comign to hang out!
	6:18am -Ken: Requests anybody?
	6:21am FƲFƲ (: EL CANTO DEL PILOOON! My favourite part of the song is when she sings: "I don't want to marry a married man because they stink as hard bush, I want a single one because they smell like ripe pineapple"
	6:21am Bethany Ryker: I emailed ya a Hans Reichel Daxophone request....but, well, no expectations!
	6:22am judy from croton: Greetings; wow the eee-ooo song! So enjoying the music i am already late
	6:25am AndrewC.: Good luck with the new show Ken! Let me be the first to request Jimi Tenor - Outta Space
	6:26am Ken From Hyde Park: @judy - Tune in early each morning to hear the weather forecast, sponsored by Bosco.
	6:26am FƲFƲ (: Songs with melodies? Hmmm...Wait... Hmmm.. Damn! Can't think of any request!!
	6:26am AndrewC.: Also, can't wait for the traffic.
	6:27am Ken From Hyde Park: @AndrewC - I think the weekly traffic forecast is on Thursdays.
	6:28am AndrewC.: Thanks Ken, I'll be sure to stay indoors until I've heard it.
	6:32am hardvark: how about YaYaYaYa by Mesa Cosa ?
	6:32am FƲFƲ (: I would like to request a show, though. A show about the songs that should be performed during Trump's presidential enthronement.
	6:33am FƲFƲ (: ERIC BOGOSIAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
	6:33am Sem Chumbo: Hey, Ken, and the shaken awake. Beefheart's ELECTRICITY.
	6:34am northguineahills: It's thunderstorming down here in N Florida...
	6:34am asheville jon: FMU morning zoo, home of all your classic rock favorite hits
	6:37am JoelA: Re: weather report -> Any Pez projectiles? Anybody leave their tea kettle boiling?
	6:39am Ken From Hyde Park: Glad the oobleck missed here yesterday. Yarf! That stuff really gums up the works.
	6:51am ausmanx: requests, hmm... Bill is Dead by The Fall for this morning, i think?
	6:52am Cooh John: Good morning. New year, new show, and away we go.
	6:52am -Ken: Did Bill die?
	6:54am ans: about requests....more from 2many dj's....?? I liked the no fun / push it yesterday!
	6:55am Ken From Hyde Park: John Berger = dead Wm. Berger = scheduled to return to the air at midnight
	6:56am ausmanx: any mark of respect for the magnificent Jogn Berger is very welcome... just when we needed him more than ever
	7:04am brian coyote: MINUTEMEN!!! yaaaass more more more
	7:05am unpopularfred: I approve of your playing the Minutemen policy!
	7:05am estimo: news from another front. Muuro got his tail shortened 4 pieces. so I hope Bosco wishes her well.
	7:05am Ken From Hyde Park: I like how the USA takes that little jog to the west to get around southern Ontario as it drifts southward.
	7:12am northguineahills: Starting my non-NYC commuting routine today. Keep it up Ken!
	7:13am dale: hi ken. i'm listening to dawn elliot's rebroadcast of when she had rich conaty on wvkr so i'll join in the 8 oclock hour. can we hear some pablo cruise then?
	7:14am Sebastian: I knew this from RFTT, great version!
	7:16am Sebastian: Killdozer! Ken, you are on fire!
	7:17am Sem Chumbo: When you're a Killdozer, you're a Killdozer all the way.
	7:19am ausmanx: what did Neil make of this version?
	7:20am lostinnz: just wow
	7:22am ausmanx: the elderly mother of X-Ray Spex bass player lives in the same retirement village as my parents in Sydney. she very proudly displays the gold record of Oh Bondage on her walls...
	7:22am Sem Chumbo: hahaha, @ausmanx.
	7:29am JakeGould: Well this is different.
	7:33am FƲFƲ (: Waiting Room is a perfect song. Crocodile Chop is a perfect mashup.
	7:34am brian coyote: :) now this is interesting, nice SOAD cover
	7:39am Will: Ken, you might as well just keep this shift, it is working out so well. Online listener Will
	7:40am Courtney of Morris: Ok so far so good...
	7:41am lostinnz: agree
	7:41am judy from croton: Bosco advises Muuro not to attempt jumping onto the kitchen counter until s/he adjusts to his/her whacked sense of balance.
	7:44am judy from croton: Unless there's butter up there.
	7:47am Michael: Ken - the show sounds good. Traffic and weather on the 3's?
	7:49am Sem Chumbo: Isn't it time for Swap Shop?
	7:53am mary: ken you're the greatest
	8:01am dale: i'm in now. and the pablo cruise staaaaaarrrrrrtttttttttttsssssss NOW!
	8:04am herb.nyc: Who is this son of a bitch singing now? Plus, more traffic reports please. I hope route three and route 280 are still fine.
	8:05am FƲFƲ (: The son of a bitch is Tony but better known as Tonetta!!!
	8:06am Susan Fox: Just discovered WFMU ... bravo! Happy ears on LI.
	8:08am dale: susan fox - BETTER than k-joy?
	8:08am FƲFƲ (: Welcome Susan Fox!!
	8:16am asheville jon: We are having weather here too!
	8:16am ausmanx: traffic flowing well on the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Lane Cove Tunnel. but then it is just after midnight here
	8:16am dale: is there a pooey flute version of tonetta's 'i went poo poo?'
	8:17am Michael: Thanks Ken. Sounds like clear sailing to the Tick Tock.
	8:18am ausmanx: here's the live webcam in case you need to check www.webcamsydney.com
	8:21am Sem Chumbo: Bagpipes rule the airwaves.
	8:22am dale: this morning's price for used starters and alternators is 13 cents a pound - might be useful information.
	8:23am FƲFƲ (: I have a big crush with the voice of the woman from Scottish Rite Temple Stomp. I still haven't found who she is though.
	8:25am dale: google says Ninian Hawick - is that not a woman?
	8:26am -Ken: Ninian Hawick is the band. I love her voice too, whoever she is.
	8:30am melinda: Morning all
	8:32am dale: ken, since my pablo cruise request fell upon the turnpike, how about some freddy fender?
	8:33am dale: shitty bagpipes should be a thing - pooey pipes
	8:33am mary: ken u really r the greatest
	8:34am melinda: There is also a techno-dancey version of quiero que me quieras
	8:35am mary: ann magnusun (et al) follwed by gael garcia bernal ! and everything before
	8:35am Cheri Pi: Hey Ken, what a suprise to see you here!
	8:35am weiterso: morning! voice of the woman from Scottish Rite Temple Stomp is Heather McElhatton
	8:36am -Ken: Was Ann Magnuson in Pulsallama? I never knew that! Thank you Mary!
	8:37am chris dot com: Ken, I'm about head into the city for a job interview. Do you think I'll get the job?
	8:38am dale: with a name like dot com how can you lose?
	8:42am -Ken: My tip to you Chris: When they ask you if YOU have any questions, ask: "What traits does somebody need to be successful in this position?"
	8:43am Susan Fox: Richard Hell has a Jonathan Richman vibe
	8:44am Susan Fox: Related to Kim, chris?
	8:44am idamac: A bit of a Pete Doherty tinge to his voice too.
	8:45am Ken From Hyde Park: Have there been many phone calls from angry JM in the AM fans? Is there a special number that they should call?
	8:45am FƲFƲ (: weiterso, I once followed that lead but it seems to me they both share the same name.
	8:46am -Ken: Ken, NO! Happily, not a single complaint!
	8:47am weiterso: @fofo, found it at discogs
	8:49am FƲFƲ (: chris dot com, I know a trick that really works! For any difficult interview question always start your reply with: "Interesting/funny you asked me that..." That magically creates rapport.
	8:49am Blix: Really liking the format of this. Waiting for the "free tickets for the fifth caller" thing.
	8:50am Ken From Hyde Park: In that case, then, I request "Whole Lotta Sabbath," which may be from Black Zeppelin. That'll learn 'em!
	8:51am dale: i'm going to put in a pre-request for tomorrow's show - jimmy buffett please.
	8:52am mary: great show!
	8:52am Skurky: I could stand to hear about 1&9
	8:53am Sebastian: is that a bagpipe?
	8:54am bill: wait, where's JM?
	8:54am Sebastian: oh god, this is gold!
	8:58am thedunkel: Good Morning Ken!
	8:58am FƲFƲ (: Thank you, Ken! Great show! Can't wait for the 6 hours marathon-show tomorrow! Till next episode people! Take care !
	8:58am kevlicki: Not a single complaint coming from me. Happy to hear music on my radio alarm clock now! Happy new year Ken
	9:00am Sebastian: Thank you Ken
	9:00am bill: Rockland County thanks you!
	9:00am jimbo: Loving the wake and bake vibe ken!
	11:03am Webhamster Henry: I'll have to get up pretty early to catch some extra Ken! Right now, the Give The Drummer Stream is playing "Bobby Lane - You Shake Me" which is close to Shake & Bake.

Wake with Clay Pigeon: Playlist from January 3, 2017

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Matmos	Tunnel "Tunnel" by "Matmos"	The Marriage of True MInds	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Parlro James	Turning Point "Turning Point" by "Parlro James"	Old Dreams	0:05:30 (Pop-up)
Lali Puna	Faking the Books "Faking the Books" by "Lali Puna"	Title Track	0:11:26 (Pop-up)
Maria Marquez and Frank Harris	Canto del Pilon	Potatoes	0:15:08 (Pop-up)
Los Fantasticos	Paint it Black "Paint it Black" by "Los Fantasticos"		0:18:53 (Pop-up)
Go Home Productions	2000 Light Years from Bolan	Spliced Krispies	0:21:55 (Pop-up)
Ann Peebles	I Can't Stand the Rain		0:26:40 (Pop-up)
Jimi Hendrix	Rainy Day, Dream Away	Electric Ladyland	0:29:08 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Curtis Mayfield	If There's a Hell Below, We're All Gonna Go		0:35:38 (Pop-up)
Harry Nilsson	Jump Into the Fire "Jump Into the Fire" by "Harry Nilsson"	Nilsson Schmillsson	0:43:49 (Pop-up)
LCD Soundsystem	North American Scum	Sound of Silver	0:49:46 (Pop-up)
Fat White Family	When Shipman Decides	Songs For Our Mothers	0:59:12 (Pop-up)
Minutemen	Political Song For Michael Jackson To Sing	Double Nickels on the Dime	1:02:28 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Mr Pharmacist "Mr Pharmacist" by "The Fall"		1:03:47 (Pop-up)
The Nomads	The Way You Touch My Hand		1:06:03 (Pop-up)
Pere Ubu	Final Solution "Final Solution" by "Pere Ubu"		1:09:33 (Pop-up)
Killdozer	I Am I Said "I Am I Said" by "Killdozer"		1:14:30 (Pop-up)
X Ray Spex	Identity "Identity" by "X Ray Spex"		1:19:47 (Pop-up)
Swell Maps	Lets Build a Car "Lets Build a Car" by "Swell Maps"		1:25:36 (Pop-up)
Fugazi	Waiting Room "Waiting Room" by "Fugazi"		1:28:27 (Pop-up)
Neil Cicierega	Crocodile Chop "Crocodile Chop" by "Neil Cicierega"		1:31:13 (Pop-up)
Steinski and Double Dee	Lesson 2 (James Brown Mix)		1:35:06 (Pop-up)
James Brown	September Song "September Song" by "James Brown"		1:39:54 (Pop-up)
Lou Reed	September Song "September Song" by "Lou Reed"		1:44:11 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Wynder K Frog	Green Door "Green Door" by "Wynder K Frog"		1:48:11 (Pop-up)
Pigbag	Papa's Got a Brand New Pigbag		1:54:06 (Pop-up)
Konk	Elephant "Elephant" by "Konk"		1:57:23 (Pop-up)
Tonetta	What Are You Worth? "What Are You Worth?" by "Tonetta"	777	2:01:55 (Pop-up)
Pollyester	Catrina "Catrina" by "Pollyester"	City of O	2:05:38 (Pop-up)
Yelle	Le Grand Saut "Le Grand Saut" by "Yelle"		2:15:19 (Pop-up)
Ninian Hawick	Scottish Rite Temple Stomp		2:19:43 (Pop-up)
RIP Slyme	Nettaiya "Nettaiya" by "RIP Slyme"		2:22:40 (Pop-up)
Pulsallama	The Devil Lives in My Husband's Body		2:27:02 (Pop-up)
Gael Garcia Bernal	Quiero Que Me Quieras		2:30:23 (Pop-up)
Richard Thompson	Tear Stained Letterq	Hand of Kindness	2:32:55 (Pop-up)
Richard Hell & The Voidoids	The Plan	Love Comes in Spurts	2:40:24 (Pop-up)
Madison	Man on the Moon "Man on the Moon" by "Madison"	Porn to Rock	2:44:12 (Pop-up)
Suzi Quatro	48 Crash "48 Crash" by "Suzi Quatro"		2:47:40 (Pop-up)
Red Hot Chilli Pipers	Voodoo Chile		2:52:21 (Pop-up)
Luna Lee	Voodoo Chile "Voodoo Chile" by "Luna Lee"		2:55:30 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:03am JoelA: Guten morgen, Ken
	6:03am People Like Us: Morning! Thought I should let you know that for some reason today's programme's playlist is not showing up here: wfmu.org... - it's only clickable to here from the frontpage, etc.
	6:07am People Like Us: it's fixed now, but I suppose you know that!
	6:08am FƲFƲ (: Good morning, Kommissar Ken, Vicki, JoelA!
	6:09am Bethany Ryker: Those are some pretty kinetic GIFs for 6am....
	6:10am Ken From Hyde Park: Day two is going swimmingly thus far! Hi, all.
	6:12am -Ken: Hi everybody, thanks so much for comign to hang out!
	6:18am -Ken: Requests anybody?
	6:21am FƲFƲ (: EL CANTO DEL PILOOON! My favourite part of the song is when she sings: "I don't want to marry a married man because they stink as hard bush, I want a single one because they smell like ripe pineapple"
	6:21am Bethany Ryker: I emailed ya a Hans Reichel Daxophone request....but, well, no expectations!
	6:22am judy from croton: Greetings; wow the eee-ooo song! So enjoying the music i am already late
	6:25am AndrewC.: Good luck with the new show Ken! Let me be the first to request Jimi Tenor - Outta Space
	6:26am Ken From Hyde Park: @judy - Tune in early each morning to hear the weather forecast, sponsored by Bosco.
	6:26am FƲFƲ (: Songs with melodies? Hmmm...Wait... Hmmm.. Damn! Can't think of any request!!
	6:26am AndrewC.: Also, can't wait for the traffic.
	6:27am Ken From Hyde Park: @AndrewC - I think the weekly traffic forecast is on Thursdays.
	6:28am AndrewC.: Thanks Ken, I'll be sure to stay indoors until I've heard it.
	6:32am hardvark: how about YaYaYaYa by Mesa Cosa ?
	6:32am FƲFƲ (: I would like to request a show, though. A show about the songs that should be performed during Trump's presidential enthronement.
	6:33am FƲFƲ (: ERIC BOGOSIAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
	6:33am Sem Chumbo: Hey, Ken, and the shaken awake. Beefheart's ELECTRICITY.
	6:34am northguineahills: It's thunderstorming down here in N Florida...
	6:34am asheville jon: FMU morning zoo, home of all your classic rock favorite hits
	6:37am JoelA: Re: weather report -> Any Pez projectiles? Anybody leave their tea kettle boiling?
	6:39am Ken From Hyde Park: Glad the oobleck missed here yesterday. Yarf! That stuff really gums up the works.
	6:51am ausmanx: requests, hmm... Bill is Dead by The Fall for this morning, i think?
	6:52am Cooh John: Good morning. New year, new show, and away we go.
	6:52am -Ken: Did Bill die?
	6:54am ans: about requests....more from 2many dj's....?? I liked the no fun / push it yesterday!
	6:55am Ken From Hyde Park: John Berger = dead Wm. Berger = scheduled to return to the air at midnight
	6:56am ausmanx: any mark of respect for the magnificent Jogn Berger is very welcome... just when we needed him more than ever
	7:04am brian coyote: MINUTEMEN!!! yaaaass more more more
	7:05am unpopularfred: I approve of your playing the Minutemen policy!
	7:05am estimo: news from another front. Muuro got his tail shortened 4 pieces. so I hope Bosco wishes her well.
	7:05am Ken From Hyde Park: I like how the USA takes that little jog to the west to get around southern Ontario as it drifts southward.
	7:12am northguineahills: Starting my non-NYC commuting routine today. Keep it up Ken!
	7:13am dale: hi ken. i'm listening to dawn elliot's rebroadcast of when she had rich conaty on wvkr so i'll join in the 8 oclock hour. can we hear some pablo cruise then?
	7:14am Sebastian: I knew this from RFTT, great version!
	7:16am Sebastian: Killdozer! Ken, you are on fire!
	7:17am Sem Chumbo: When you're a Killdozer, you're a Killdozer all the way.
	7:19am ausmanx: what did Neil make of this version?
	7:20am lostinnz: just wow
	7:22am ausmanx: the elderly mother of X-Ray Spex bass player lives in the same retirement village as my parents in Sydney. she very proudly displays the gold record of Oh Bondage on her walls...
	7:22am Sem Chumbo: hahaha, @ausmanx.
	7:29am JakeGould: Well this is different.
	7:33am FƲFƲ (: Waiting Room is a perfect song. Crocodile Chop is a perfect mashup.
	7:34am brian coyote: :) now this is interesting, nice SOAD cover
	7:39am Will: Ken, you might as well just keep this shift, it is working out so well. Online listener Will
	7:40am Courtney of Morris: Ok so far so good...
	7:41am lostinnz: agree
	7:41am judy from croton: Bosco advises Muuro not to attempt jumping onto the kitchen counter until s/he adjusts to his/her whacked sense of balance.
	7:44am judy from croton: Unless there's butter up there.
	7:47am Michael: Ken - the show sounds good. Traffic and weather on the 3's?
	7:49am Sem Chumbo: Isn't it time for Swap Shop?
	7:53am mary: ken you're the greatest
	8:01am dale: i'm in now. and the pablo cruise staaaaaarrrrrrtttttttttttsssssss NOW!
	8:04am herb.nyc: Who is this son of a bitch singing now? Plus, more traffic reports please. I hope route three and route 280 are still fine.
	8:05am FƲFƲ (: The son of a bitch is Tony but better known as Tonetta!!!
	8:06am Susan Fox: Just discovered WFMU ... bravo! Happy ears on LI.
	8:08am dale: susan fox - BETTER than k-joy?
	8:08am FƲFƲ (: Welcome Susan Fox!!
	8:16am asheville jon: We are having weather here too!
	8:16am ausmanx: traffic flowing well on the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Lane Cove Tunnel. but then it is just after midnight here
	8:16am dale: is there a pooey flute version of tonetta's 'i went poo poo?'
	8:17am Michael: Thanks Ken. Sounds like clear sailing to the Tick Tock.
	8:18am ausmanx: here's the live webcam in case you need to check www.webcamsydney.com
	8:21am Sem Chumbo: Bagpipes rule the airwaves.
	8:22am dale: this morning's price for used starters and alternators is 13 cents a pound - might be useful information.
	8:23am FƲFƲ (: I have a big crush with the voice of the woman from Scottish Rite Temple Stomp. I still haven't found who she is though.
	8:25am dale: google says Ninian Hawick - is that not a woman?
	8:26am -Ken: Ninian Hawick is the band. I love her voice too, whoever she is.
	8:30am melinda: Morning all
	8:32am dale: ken, since my pablo cruise request fell upon the turnpike, how about some freddy fender?
	8:33am dale: shitty bagpipes should be a thing - pooey pipes
	8:33am mary: ken u really r the greatest
	8:34am melinda: There is also a techno-dancey version of quiero que me quieras
	8:35am mary: ann magnusun (et al) follwed by gael garcia bernal ! and everything before
	8:35am Cheri Pi: Hey Ken, what a suprise to see you here!
	8:35am weiterso: morning! voice of the woman from Scottish Rite Temple Stomp is Heather McElhatton
	8:36am -Ken: Was Ann Magnuson in Pulsallama? I never knew that! Thank you Mary!
	8:37am chris dot com: Ken, I'm about head into the city for a job interview. Do you think I'll get the job?
	8:38am dale: with a name like dot com how can you lose?
	8:42am -Ken: My tip to you Chris: When they ask you if YOU have any questions, ask: "What traits does somebody need to be successful in this position?"
	8:43am Susan Fox: Richard Hell has a Jonathan Richman vibe
	8:44am Susan Fox: Related to Kim, chris?
	8:44am idamac: A bit of a Pete Doherty tinge to his voice too.
	8:45am Ken From Hyde Park: Have there been many phone calls from angry JM in the AM fans? Is there a special number that they should call?
	8:45am FƲFƲ (: weiterso, I once followed that lead but it seems to me they both share the same name.
	8:46am -Ken: Ken, NO! Happily, not a single complaint!
	8:47am weiterso: @fofo, found it at discogs
	8:49am FƲFƲ (: chris dot com, I know a trick that really works! For any difficult interview question always start your reply with: "Interesting/funny you asked me that..." That magically creates rapport.
	8:49am Blix: Really liking the format of this. Waiting for the "free tickets for the fifth caller" thing.
	8:50am Ken From Hyde Park: In that case, then, I request "Whole Lotta Sabbath," which may be from Black Zeppelin. That'll learn 'em!
	8:51am dale: i'm going to put in a pre-request for tomorrow's show - jimmy buffett please.
	8:52am mary: great show!
	8:52am Skurky: I could stand to hear about 1&9
	8:53am Sebastian: is that a bagpipe?
	8:54am bill: wait, where's JM?
	8:54am Sebastian: oh god, this is gold!
	8:58am thedunkel: Good Morning Ken!
	8:58am FƲFƲ (: Thank you, Ken! Great show! Can't wait for the 6 hours marathon-show tomorrow! Till next episode people! Take care !
	8:58am kevlicki: Not a single complaint coming from me. Happy to hear music on my radio alarm clock now! Happy new year Ken
	9:00am Sebastian: Thank you Ken
	9:00am bill: Rockland County thanks you!
	9:00am jimbo: Loving the wake and bake vibe ken!
	11:03am Webhamster Henry: I'll have to get up pretty early to catch some extra Ken! Right now, the Give The Drummer Stream is playing "Bobby Lane - You Shake Me" which is close to Shake & Bake.

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