WFMU: Wake with Clay Pigeon: Playlist from April 25, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:03am Jack: Jonesey!
	6:03am Jonesey: Good Morning
	6:09am stuntz: Great song to open with Mr. Mayor.
	6:09am Lixiviated Life: No body gets hurt when the beat drop
	6:10am Sebastian: good morning Jonesey and everybody.
	6:12am Jonesey: Hey folks, Thanks Stuntz--a good pal of mine was kind enough to archive that opener which was recorded live at FMU on Jonesville Station. You can find it on the archives at www.wfmu.org...
	6:16am PsychopathJimFields: Good Morning, Mayor of Mayors!!!!!! We got some traffic and some weather. Traffic- Big mess on the BQE by the Kosciuszko Bridge. There's a mess on the LIE, of course. There was a jack-knifed trailer on 95 South around Exit 72 on the Jersey Side. Weather- Wet, and that's gonna make more traffic messes. There are some trains messed up too. I suggest you take the day off and drink heavily. And smoke'em if you got'em! Have a happy day!!!!!!!!!!
	6:17am PsychopathJimFields: Enjoyed All the Young Dudes while I was lathering up :)
	6:23am Sebastian: this is so much better than the original
	6:23am Riggs: Jonesey, check out the Alejandro Escovedo tribute album "Por Vida." Great friends record his songs to pay for his hospital bills (Hep-C).
	6:40am CoffeeBluez: Good morning Jonesey and to all the Woof Mooers here.
	6:45am Cooh John: 2nd GBV preview this week. Gonna see Rob & Company Friday.
	6:48am Mike tp: Yes indeed Riggs nice Jayhawks on porvidalp
	♥ 6:49am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Jonesey and crew. Merry 1/3 Christmas!
	♥ 6:53am Threemoons: Jonesey! Crew! Peeps! Guten Morgen.
	6:53am Cooh John: DA da da da, da da da da, da da da da. Send the message.
	7:04am annie: good morning all!
	7:09am Cooh John: We need more songs like this that is a call for peace and harmony.
	7:10am Mandy: An artwork of an unidentified person is a "nude". An artwork of a named person is considered "naked". and who says my art degree wasnt worth anything!
	7:11am annie: it's funny cooh, i hear that song now and it makes me melancholy that we still have a long way o go..
	7:15am Cooh John: Yes, annie. We like to think we are 'advanced' as a society. We can make leaps and bounds technologically but crawl sociologicaly. Sigh.
	♥ 7:15am Threemoons: Aaaah, ULTRAVOX...one of my fave songs by them....
	7:16am Andy: Checking in from Dublin, Ireland, great tunes, making work time fly.
	♥ 7:22am JM: Good Morning Mayor and fellow IBJ. My favorite moment of this whole audition period is when Jonsey went from a Tony Bennett song to Led Zeppelins Moby Dick as only Jonsey could or would!
	7:25am Mandy: hey North Jerz woofmooers if you are driving up 17 near Hohokus and Saddlebrook there's a big accident be careful out there
	♥ 7:26am Threemoons: @Mandy: Makes me SO not miss the mornings that I had to take a 6:20 AM bus from Suffern to NYC and go through that kind of mess pretty much every other day....le sigh...
	7:27am Wild Neil: Peace all. LIKE Blondie a lot!
	♥ 7:28am Ken From Hyde Park: How's come I've never heard this nice Blondie song before? It's so good. Is it off their new album?
	♥ 7:30am Threemoons: Ken--nope, ancient--Parallel Lines IIRC.
	7:31am Wild Neil: @Ken-its from 1978's Parallel Lines...I think Robert Fripp played some on this album too.
	7:32am Mandy: @Threemoons I think 287 is probably the worst road. It has those wide open lanes that make people fly at 80+ mph and when there is a crash it's a crazy flipped over firey explosion and there's no off ramps to escape if youre stuck in the traffic.
	7:34am Jonesey: Yes it is Parallel Lines, first single off of it if I am not mistaken.
	7:35am tfunk: Stones 4ever
	7:35am Wild Neil: I think I used to drive the 287 going to Pellet Records (defunct) in Morristown if I am not mistaken.....from NW Warren/Sussex county line in NJ....
	7:35am tfunk: "Take me down, little Susie!"
	7:35am Sean B.: Sounding great Glen!.
	7:36am Tom: Jonesy - Besides Midnight Special and Don Kirshner's rock concert, There was also ABC's "In Concert". I don't know what night it was on. But saw lots of great bands. It's the first time I ever saw The original Mahavishnu Orchestra!
	7:38am Wild Neil: and lets not forget Supersonic!
	7:38am wendy del formaggio: Another great morning with Glen Jones!
	7:39am Riggs: Saw Queen circa '76 at The Beacon Theater. I remember the NY TIMES critic claim that Freddie Mercury wore a chest hair piece!!??
	7:39am Tom: Never heard of it Neil. Are you sure that was in the US? In Concert I saw right here in the tri-state area. I'm pretty sure that Glenn and I are about the same age, too.
	♥ 7:39am Threemoons: Jonesey I thought Heart of Glass was the 1st single off of Parallel Lines?
	7:43am Jonesey: Could be Threemoons, certainly was the biggest single and Tom I forgot about In Concert, cool.
	7:49am ans: long time ago that I heard this swinging pointer sisters!! Yeah!
	7:50am wendy del formaggio: This Pointer Sisters number reminds me of "Hit or Miss" by Odetta, another great song.
	7:51am bonneville73: Jonesy In the Morning. This is great. A former Rahway resident listenin' lively in Traverse City, Mi
	♥ 7:54am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for the Blondie edumacation. All the gazillion hours I've listened to radio all these years and that may well have been my first time hearing it. WFMU definitely the most useful tool in the shed, once again!
	7:56am miles: "sit down girl!"
	7:58am miles: I have a couple Archies cereal box records
	♥ 7:59am Hank from Maplewood: Good Morning Glen...thanks for making it a better morning. Happy 100th Birthday of Ella Fitzgerald and World Penguin Day (those are two separate events).
	7:59am bonneville73: and don't forget the Monkees' cereal box records !
	8:01am Sean B.: @Jonesey = I remember Don Kirshner's rock concert being a kid as it was the only place else I knew of to see concerts and I believe music videos at the end of the show. And I remember, also, getting the Album Jazz by Queen and being like 9 years old and and opening the album and viewing the inside picture sleeve & seeing the naked bicycle race picture and being like hmmmmm...what's this here? Lol. And yes...Debbie Harry was my very first crush...dang she a beauty to behold. Love her voice also. Then in my area it was wrko am radio in the Boston area, later wcoz Fm and then of course the Legendary Wbcn!.
	♥ 8:03am Hank from Maplewood: Don Kirshner's and The Midnight Special too.
	8:04am bonneville73: I wanna see Jonesy and X Ray as contestants on Jeopardy.
	8:08am lixiviated life: I don't think you can even buy aspirin for $26
	♥ 8:10am JM: I want a Rock! Something that'll blow out the speakers on my car stereo!
	8:15am petootie pie: @hank Thanks so much for the Ella Fitzgerald centennial heads-up !
	♥ 8:16am G: Don Kirshner wento to Upsala College...was he a DJ? Was there radio back then??
	8:17am miles: teenager or little boy, which was it?
	8:20am Sean B.: You peeps know that Jonesey has a twitter handle? It's @jonesey10996622 I don't know if he uses it much. But perhaps he would if some of you kind folks would FOLLOW him. As it's brand new. Yeah baby!.
	8:20am Riggs: The Tubes - "What do you Want from Life." The 1st time I heard the line: "a baby's arm holding an apple."
	8:23am Dave Wright: Thanks for some undertones jonesey !!!
	8:27am Sean B.: Ha? G. Are you being a priggish or perhaps genteel fellow?. Gee I hope I am wrong man?
	8:29am melinda: Howdy
	8:30am Macho Man Randy Savage: Ooooh, yeah
	8:31am Sean B.: Leave it to Glen to go from Culture club to the Ramones and it make work.Right?. Diggin' it.
	♥ 8:31am braveness23: B23 here!
	♥ 8:36am Threemoons: Does being a project manager at a startup (former life) count as being a rodeo clown? Hint: It should.
	8:37am Parq: Mondagreen time: For a moment, I thought Moe sang about "the bulls in the Bronx".
	8:39am Sean B.: Musician.& Income tax deduction, my one and only function. It beats picking cotton and waiting to be forgotten, for we are the Sons of no one. ..Bastards of Young...Westerberg said that aye?.
	♥ 8:42am Threemoons: Oh man RE 1 Crush....feeling all the feelings right now; I'm mentally there these days on someone...
	♥ 8:46am G: @Sean B... I think what I meant to ask was if there was a radio station at Upsala back then...pardon my apparent ostentatiousness..:)
	8:47am Mikey_B: enjoying this radio greatness. thanks, jones.
	8:47am Larry from Westwood and now Chicago: Another great show Jonesy.
	♥ 8:49am Hank from Maplewood: good new one by Craig Finn.
	8:51am Mike Sin: Been listening as I ride the rails of NJ Transit - nice show today, Jonesy!
	♥ 8:53am Brian in UK: Thought that was a Bono quote.
	8:53am noel: A very nice mix of sounds Glen. Enjoy the day.
	8:57am CoffeeBluez: Good stuff! Have an excellent rest of the day.
	8:58am Riggs: Jonesey, Thank you Morning Mayor. I needed your music infusion to pick me up. I can see for miles was my 1st 45 I ever bought.
	8:59am -- --- .-. .-. .. ...: -.- . . .--. -.-- --- ..- .-. ..-. . . - --- -. - .... . --. .-. --- ..- -. -.. .- -. -.. -.- . . .--. .-. . -.-. .... .. -. --. ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.-. .... . . ... . .--. ..- ..-. ..-. ...
	9:00am queen Helene: So sad at 9am. Have a great day JONESEY!
	♥ 9:00am Lizardner Dave: Thanks Jonesy!
	9:00am Jonesey: Thanks for the ride. That's all folks!
	4:58pm drewo: Archive sounds great warmed up a few hours later. Thanks Jonesey!
	♥ 10:25pm drr: nice to hear Reigning Sound

Wake with Clay Pigeon: Playlist from April 25, 2017

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April 25, 2017: WoofMoo Morning Show with Glen Jones

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Artist	Track	Year	Approx. start time
Mike Peters	All The Young Dudes	2006	0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Macy Gray	Get Out	2007	0:02:48 (Pop‑up)
Alejandro Escovedo	Always A Friend	2008	0:06:40 (Pop‑up)
Mink DeVille	Mixed Up, Shook Up, Girl	1977	0:12:40 (Pop‑up)

The Iveys	Maybe Tomorrow	1969	0:17:39 (Pop‑up)
Julie London	Yummy, Yummy, Yummy	1968	0:21:35 (Pop‑up)
Madonna	Lucky Star	1983	0:23:21 (Pop‑up)
Prince	Raspberry Beret	1984	0:27:25 (Pop‑up)

Guided By Voices	It's Food	2017	0:32:10 (Pop‑up)
The Len Price 3	If I Ain't Got You	2007	0:35:13 (Pop‑up)
The Raspberries	Ecstasy	1973	0:37:27 (Pop‑up)

The Wallflowers	One Headlight	1996	0:42:22 (Pop‑up)
Weezer	Island In The Sun	2000	0:47:06 (Pop‑up)
The Five Americans	Western Union	1967	0:50:46 (Pop‑up)

Cassius, Cat Power & Pharrell Williams	Go Up	2016	0:56:03 (Pop‑up)

Spoon	Got Nuffin	2008	1:01:23 (Pop‑up)

The Rascals	People Got To Be Free	1968	1:06:51 (Pop‑up)
Oasis	Roll With It	1995	1:10:50 (Pop‑up)
Ultravox	Reap The Wild Wind	1982	1:14:39 (Pop‑up)

Foster the People	Pumped Up Kicks	2012	1:19:41 (Pop‑up)
Blondie	Picture This	1978	1:25:50 (Pop‑up)
Queen	Fat Bottomed Girls	1978	1:27:00 (Pop‑up)

Former Bullies	Rose of Destiny	2017	1:32:05 (Pop‑up)
The Rolling Stones	Dead Flowers	1970	1:33:49 (Pop‑up)
Reigning Sound	My My	2014	1:41:08 (Pop‑up)
Yo La Tengo	Nothing to Hide	2009	1:41:31 (Pop‑up)

The Pointer Sisters	Yes We Can Can	1973	1:46:45 (Pop‑up)
James Brown	Get On The Good Foot	1972	1:50:04 (Pop‑up)
Jackson 5	ABC	1970	1:53:28 (Pop‑up)

Jesus and Mary Chain	Mood Rider	2017	1:58:12 (Pop‑up)
King Khan & The Shrines	I Wanna Be A Girl	2007	2:01:47 (Pop‑up)

Velvet Underground	I'm Waiting For The Man	1966	2:06:29 (Pop‑up)
The Tubes	Talk to Ya Later	1981	2:12:22 (Pop‑up)

Birds of Avalon	Bicentenial Baby	2007	2:18:16 (Pop‑up)
The Undertones	Get Over You	1979	2:21:22 (Pop‑up)
Culture Club	Karma Chameleon	1983	2:25:52 (Pop‑up)
Ramones	Beat on The Brat	1976	2:27:49 (Pop‑up)

Moe Bandy	Bandy the Rodeo Clown	1975	2:33:33 (Pop‑up)
Amelia Curran	Gravity	2017	2:36:07 (Pop‑up)
Garbage	#1 Crush	1995	2:38:42 (Pop‑up)

The Isley Brothers	Work To Do	1972	2:44:03 (Pop‑up)
Craig Finn	Preludes	2017	2:46:55 (Pop‑up)

Coco Hames	I Don't Want To Go	2017	2:54:20 (Pop‑up)
The Who	I Can See For Miles	1967	2:54:56 (Pop‑up)

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Listener comments!
	6:03am Jack: Jonesey!
	6:03am Jonesey: Good Morning
	6:09am stuntz: Great song to open with Mr. Mayor.
	6:09am Lixiviated Life: No body gets hurt when the beat drop
	6:10am Sebastian: good morning Jonesey and everybody.
	6:12am Jonesey: Hey folks, Thanks Stuntz--a good pal of mine was kind enough to archive that opener which was recorded live at FMU on Jonesville Station. You can find it on the archives at www.wfmu.org...
	6:16am PsychopathJimFields: Good Morning, Mayor of Mayors!!!!!! We got some traffic and some weather. Traffic- Big mess on the BQE by the Kosciuszko Bridge. There's a mess on the LIE, of course. There was a jack-knifed trailer on 95 South around Exit 72 on the Jersey Side. Weather- Wet, and that's gonna make more traffic messes. There are some trains messed up too. I suggest you take the day off and drink heavily. And smoke'em if you got'em! Have a happy day!!!!!!!!!!
	6:17am PsychopathJimFields: Enjoyed All the Young Dudes while I was lathering up :)
	6:23am Sebastian: this is so much better than the original
	6:23am Riggs: Jonesey, check out the Alejandro Escovedo tribute album "Por Vida." Great friends record his songs to pay for his hospital bills (Hep-C).
	6:40am CoffeeBluez: Good morning Jonesey and to all the Woof Mooers here.
	6:45am Cooh John: 2nd GBV preview this week. Gonna see Rob & Company Friday.
	6:48am Mike tp: Yes indeed Riggs nice Jayhawks on porvidalp
	♥ 6:49am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Jonesey and crew. Merry 1/3 Christmas!
	♥ 6:53am Threemoons: Jonesey! Crew! Peeps! Guten Morgen.
	6:53am Cooh John: DA da da da, da da da da, da da da da. Send the message.
	7:04am annie: good morning all!
	7:09am Cooh John: We need more songs like this that is a call for peace and harmony.
	7:10am Mandy: An artwork of an unidentified person is a "nude". An artwork of a named person is considered "naked". and who says my art degree wasnt worth anything!
	7:11am annie: it's funny cooh, i hear that song now and it makes me melancholy that we still have a long way o go..
	7:15am Cooh John: Yes, annie. We like to think we are 'advanced' as a society. We can make leaps and bounds technologically but crawl sociologicaly. Sigh.
	♥ 7:15am Threemoons: Aaaah, ULTRAVOX...one of my fave songs by them....
	7:16am Andy: Checking in from Dublin, Ireland, great tunes, making work time fly.
	♥ 7:22am JM: Good Morning Mayor and fellow IBJ. My favorite moment of this whole audition period is when Jonsey went from a Tony Bennett song to Led Zeppelins Moby Dick as only Jonsey could or would!
	7:25am Mandy: hey North Jerz woofmooers if you are driving up 17 near Hohokus and Saddlebrook there's a big accident be careful out there
	♥ 7:26am Threemoons: @Mandy: Makes me SO not miss the mornings that I had to take a 6:20 AM bus from Suffern to NYC and go through that kind of mess pretty much every other day....le sigh...
	7:27am Wild Neil: Peace all. LIKE Blondie a lot!
	♥ 7:28am Ken From Hyde Park: How's come I've never heard this nice Blondie song before? It's so good. Is it off their new album?
	♥ 7:30am Threemoons: Ken--nope, ancient--Parallel Lines IIRC.
	7:31am Wild Neil: @Ken-its from 1978's Parallel Lines...I think Robert Fripp played some on this album too.
	7:32am Mandy: @Threemoons I think 287 is probably the worst road. It has those wide open lanes that make people fly at 80+ mph and when there is a crash it's a crazy flipped over firey explosion and there's no off ramps to escape if youre stuck in the traffic.
	7:34am Jonesey: Yes it is Parallel Lines, first single off of it if I am not mistaken.
	7:35am tfunk: Stones 4ever
	7:35am Wild Neil: I think I used to drive the 287 going to Pellet Records (defunct) in Morristown if I am not mistaken.....from NW Warren/Sussex county line in NJ....
	7:35am tfunk: "Take me down, little Susie!"
	7:35am Sean B.: Sounding great Glen!.
	7:36am Tom: Jonesy - Besides Midnight Special and Don Kirshner's rock concert, There was also ABC's "In Concert". I don't know what night it was on. But saw lots of great bands. It's the first time I ever saw The original Mahavishnu Orchestra!
	7:38am Wild Neil: and lets not forget Supersonic!
	7:38am wendy del formaggio: Another great morning with Glen Jones!
	7:39am Riggs: Saw Queen circa '76 at The Beacon Theater. I remember the NY TIMES critic claim that Freddie Mercury wore a chest hair piece!!??
	7:39am Tom: Never heard of it Neil. Are you sure that was in the US? In Concert I saw right here in the tri-state area. I'm pretty sure that Glenn and I are about the same age, too.
	♥ 7:39am Threemoons: Jonesey I thought Heart of Glass was the 1st single off of Parallel Lines?
	7:43am Jonesey: Could be Threemoons, certainly was the biggest single and Tom I forgot about In Concert, cool.
	7:49am ans: long time ago that I heard this swinging pointer sisters!! Yeah!
	7:50am wendy del formaggio: This Pointer Sisters number reminds me of "Hit or Miss" by Odetta, another great song.
	7:51am bonneville73: Jonesy In the Morning. This is great. A former Rahway resident listenin' lively in Traverse City, Mi
	♥ 7:54am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks for the Blondie edumacation. All the gazillion hours I've listened to radio all these years and that may well have been my first time hearing it. WFMU definitely the most useful tool in the shed, once again!
	7:56am miles: "sit down girl!"
	7:58am miles: I have a couple Archies cereal box records
	♥ 7:59am Hank from Maplewood: Good Morning Glen...thanks for making it a better morning. Happy 100th Birthday of Ella Fitzgerald and World Penguin Day (those are two separate events).
	7:59am bonneville73: and don't forget the Monkees' cereal box records !
	8:01am Sean B.: @Jonesey = I remember Don Kirshner's rock concert being a kid as it was the only place else I knew of to see concerts and I believe music videos at the end of the show. And I remember, also, getting the Album Jazz by Queen and being like 9 years old and and opening the album and viewing the inside picture sleeve & seeing the naked bicycle race picture and being like hmmmmm...what's this here? Lol. And yes...Debbie Harry was my very first crush...dang she a beauty to behold. Love her voice also. Then in my area it was wrko am radio in the Boston area, later wcoz Fm and then of course the Legendary Wbcn!.
	♥ 8:03am Hank from Maplewood: Don Kirshner's and The Midnight Special too.
	8:04am bonneville73: I wanna see Jonesy and X Ray as contestants on Jeopardy.
	8:08am lixiviated life: I don't think you can even buy aspirin for $26
	♥ 8:10am JM: I want a Rock! Something that'll blow out the speakers on my car stereo!
	8:15am petootie pie: @hank Thanks so much for the Ella Fitzgerald centennial heads-up !
	♥ 8:16am G: Don Kirshner wento to Upsala College...was he a DJ? Was there radio back then??
	8:17am miles: teenager or little boy, which was it?
	8:20am Sean B.: You peeps know that Jonesey has a twitter handle? It's @jonesey10996622 I don't know if he uses it much. But perhaps he would if some of you kind folks would FOLLOW him. As it's brand new. Yeah baby!.
	8:20am Riggs: The Tubes - "What do you Want from Life." The 1st time I heard the line: "a baby's arm holding an apple."
	8:23am Dave Wright: Thanks for some undertones jonesey !!!
	8:27am Sean B.: Ha? G. Are you being a priggish or perhaps genteel fellow?. Gee I hope I am wrong man?
	8:29am melinda: Howdy
	8:30am Macho Man Randy Savage: Ooooh, yeah
	8:31am Sean B.: Leave it to Glen to go from Culture club to the Ramones and it make work.Right?. Diggin' it.
	♥ 8:31am braveness23: B23 here!
	♥ 8:36am Threemoons: Does being a project manager at a startup (former life) count as being a rodeo clown? Hint: It should.
	8:37am Parq: Mondagreen time: For a moment, I thought Moe sang about "the bulls in the Bronx".
	8:39am Sean B.: Musician.& Income tax deduction, my one and only function. It beats picking cotton and waiting to be forgotten, for we are the Sons of no one. ..Bastards of Young...Westerberg said that aye?.
	♥ 8:42am Threemoons: Oh man RE 1 Crush....feeling all the feelings right now; I'm mentally there these days on someone...
	♥ 8:46am G: @Sean B... I think what I meant to ask was if there was a radio station at Upsala back then...pardon my apparent ostentatiousness..:)
	8:47am Mikey_B: enjoying this radio greatness. thanks, jones.
	8:47am Larry from Westwood and now Chicago: Another great show Jonesy.
	♥ 8:49am Hank from Maplewood: good new one by Craig Finn.
	8:51am Mike Sin: Been listening as I ride the rails of NJ Transit - nice show today, Jonesy!
	♥ 8:53am Brian in UK: Thought that was a Bono quote.
	8:53am noel: A very nice mix of sounds Glen. Enjoy the day.
	8:57am CoffeeBluez: Good stuff! Have an excellent rest of the day.
	8:58am Riggs: Jonesey, Thank you Morning Mayor. I needed your music infusion to pick me up. I can see for miles was my 1st 45 I ever bought.
	8:59am -- --- .-. .-. .. ...: -.- . . .--. -.-- --- ..- .-. ..-. . . - --- -. - .... . --. .-. --- ..- -. -.. .- -. -.. -.- . . .--. .-. . -.-. .... .. -. --. ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.-. .... . . ... . .--. ..- ..-. ..-. ...
	9:00am queen Helene: So sad at 9am. Have a great day JONESEY!
	♥ 9:00am Lizardner Dave: Thanks Jonesy!
	9:00am Jonesey: Thanks for the ride. That's all folks!
	4:58pm drewo: Archive sounds great warmed up a few hours later. Thanks Jonesey!
	♥ 10:25pm drr: nice to hear Reigning Sound

Wake with Clay Pigeon: Playlist from April 25, 2017

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