WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from July 16, 2017

Listener comments!
	♥ 9:02am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	♥ 9:02am listener james from westwood: Happy Sunday, Jeff and all!
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Good morning (afternoon?) to you, @fred, and happy Sunday to you, @listener james!
	♥ 9:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Home is where the Coltrane is.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: If we're lucky, @Revolution Rabbit! Welcome.
	♥ 9:11am Stanley: Hi Jeff and friends. We trust each other, like family I love my WFMU family and on the Drummer Stream it feels like close family. Is there a blood type FMU+?
	♥ 9:12am Jeff Golick: Lovely, @Stanley. I do believe we are all suitable donors.
	♥ 9:14am Stanley: This Coltrane is perfect on this warm, peaceful Sunday afternoon
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: McCoy Tyner just played a festival up the Hudson River from NYC...
	♥ 9:22am Stanley: From the Coltrane doc, I gather that a lot took place in Philadelphia. If I ever get over to the US, would it be worth a visit for this reason?
	♥ 9:25am Jeff Golick: Hmm...I really don't know the answer to that question. I know they've been working to turn his home into a museum, but not sure where they are with it: www.johncoltranehouse.org
	♥ 9:29am fred: @Stanley: doctorjazz, who's often on the comment boards, should be able to give you tips
	♥ 9:32am Stanley: Thanks Fred and Jeff. Good idea.
	♥ 9:34am Stanley: Digging what must be the Holy Ghost bit. It's pretty far out, to say the least.
	♥ 9:34am Uncle Michael: We're getting closer to our Destination.
	♥ 9:35am Jeff Golick: Juuuuuuuuuust about there, yes. Hello, @Uncle Michael. If this is Sunday, you must be in...?
	♥ 9:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's an interesting thing. Trane came out of Philly, which was deffo a scene - I think as a kind of halfway point between the South & North for many? He was born in NorthCarolina I believe - from a long line of Preachers & such. Was in the Navy in Hawaii I think... But like Hendrix, not an Artist I associate w/ a single specific locale, really - out of my ignorance or otherwise. Hm. NYC for everybody I guess...
	♥ 9:37am Uncle Michael: ...Omaha.
	♥ 9:38am Jeff Golick: Oh! Maha! Nice. Nice?
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: Are there artists (in any genre) who changed their overall conception as much as Trane (and I guess Miles) over the course of a career? To the point of alienating earlier fans? I guess Picasso...Dylan...
	9:41am duke: Hello D:O
	9:41am Dean: Scott Walker?
	9:43am Dean: Ezra Pound? (Some alienation due to reasons outside the purely literary.)
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that's a good one, @Dean. Hi, @Dean! Greetings, @duke!
	♥ 9:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Maybe that was an era when people got around much more & distinct cities & coasts began to lose their distinct & even opposed natures... TheBeatles & Lennon embodied restless evolution - but were of course the most popular thing ever also...Trane prefigured PsychedelicRawk pretty directly - a straight line to the bYRdS & then everyone, for instance...the connection to RaviShankar is almost circular amongst those - & then Olatunji - prefigures 'World Music' directly... Anyhow - yes, those are the Artists who represent that, I think. I sometimes compare Lennon & Malcolm X in political/spiritual/public evolution... John Coltrane was distinctly on a Quest, & determined to Manifest what he found in his actual life & work...
	♥ 9:47am fred: Metallica? Though I guess you mean changed in a good way...
	♥ 9:48am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff and OUTies
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Ha, "good way" is totally subjective, I guess, @fred.
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @coelacanth∅!
	♥ 9:51am Jeff Golick: And, yeah, @RRN63, I guess the Beatles are in some way Exhibit A, although they somehow brought everyone along for the ride.
	♥ 9:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Dylan became widely known 1st as a 'protest singer' - & Coltrane stood firmly @ the crossroads of Jazz's changes from the start ('will he find himself', 'where is he going??') - & the Critics there were having a field day being Critics about all that...Does anyone bother to Critique Jazz anymore?
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: Do people quest anymore?
	9:55am duke: Expression was the first Trane record I bought. It totally blew my poor teenage mind.
	9:56am glenn: what like, destinators?
	♥ 9:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Right. Maybe now on DMT. Trane made it explicit he was out to musically explore to the max & find himself.
	♥ 9:57am Jeff Golick: @duke: that's a tough entry point!
	♥ 9:57am fred: I think Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker's move away from a mostly female company where dancers personalities were a big part of her work qualifies. I don't know if it's eligible as art, but Wittgenstein moving from the Tractatus to Philosophical Investigations is jarring though I think it's more coherent than what the hype says
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: Likin' that you're here, @glenn. Howdy.
	♥ 9:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There were Existentialists & Beats & Expressionists...& then - the 60s.
	10:00am Doug Schulkind: 50 years without Coltrane. 50 million years with Coltrane.
	♥ 10:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but it wasn't PostModernism yet. People still thot it Mattered.
	10:01am Dean: Cage, but perhaps he alienated everybody from the get-go. Wittgenstein is a great example, @fred. Zorn?
	♥ 10:02am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like losing Hendrix for Rawk. Where the hell do we go now - ?!
	10:06am Dean: Dennis Miller? Bill Maher? Real questers, those guys.
	10:07am Dean: And of course Dr. Seuss.
	♥ 10:07am Uncle Michael: Omaha is nice. Humid. Fun, family reunion.
	10:09am Dean: Repetition, too, is a quest. See, e.g., Mark E Smith.
	♥ 10:09am doctorjazz: Slept in, just getting on the Trane, hi all! Off with Ozzie...
	10:12am Dean: Bach's ouevre exhibits quest-like ambitions, albeit not along a chronological trajectory. That sentence is either exactly right or complete bullshit.
	♥ 10:12am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: MEs influenced by Iggy, who asserted, 'our tastes were sophisticated - & our skills primitive.' As John Peel said: 'TheFall - always different - always the same.'
	10:14am Dean: Bartok's and Beethoven's string quartets...
	♥ 10:14am Jeff Golick: Hi, @doctorjazz. There was a Philly question for you up the thread a ways, if you get a mo...
	10:16am Dean: Virginia Woolf
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: Wait! @Doug! Forgot to say hi to @Doug! Hi, @Doug. Hope you are doing ok.
	♥ 10:17am Jeff Golick: Woolf makes me think of James Joyce. Is it a modernism thing?
	♥ 10:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I've heard Bach was actually considered a tad old-fashioned in his own time - tho' his skill & productivity had to have been respected...maybe his writing for all instruments & ensembles is an example - tho' I'm punching far above my weight now... Beethoven said to be transitional from old-stylee Patronage to Moderne 'pay me I'm a famous Artiste' era - w/ new approaches to Tonality. Ignorant of how much transition is in evidence over his output... Kerouac going from aping TomWolfe to writing one long uninterrupted Road of scrolled paper spontaneously on a speed jag in a comparable era...& really Joyce is before him.
	♥ 10:20am fred: I have a hard time putting Woolf and Joyce in a same category, though I love both
	♥ 10:20am Stanley: Lovely piece, this.
	♥ 10:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes it is. ...& Kerouac had no one to alienate yet...tho' the relation to Jazz couldn't be more overt.
	10:23am Dean: That seems right, @Jeff G., but I am of the mind that we have always been modernist., contra Latour (whose work on the topic I have not read, but why should that stop me from spouting an opinion?). You can hear in Bach that he wrote music for a living, no question. But then in addition to a cantata or two every week there are these sublimely tiny works he compiled for exercises and the cornucopia that is (are?) the Goldberg Variations.
	♥ 10:24am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bach wrote for a Living - & for Gawd - just like Coltrane or BrianWilson.
	♥ 10:25am fred: I'm a bit puzzled by the current trend to bash David Foster Wallace as a symbol of out-of-touch elites at best, trumpism at worst. That's kind of a big switch too
	♥ 10:27am Jeff Golick: Now that's something I haven't seen/heard yet, @fred. Where have you spotted this?
	10:28am Dean: Maybe a stretch, but Sondheim?
	♥ 10:28am doctorjazz: Love this ibarra piece (still catching up on comments... Reading while walking ozzie... Lots of comments today, mostly above my cultural pay grade...). Post more soon...
	♥ 10:31am Uncle Michael: Heading out. Everyone have a great day. Thanks for the music, Jeff.
	♥ 10:33am fred: Several times in places like The Baffler, most recently about the now infamous Brooks "sandwich" piece ("To feel at home in opportunity-rich areas, you’ve got to [...] possess the right attitudes about David Foster Wallace") and the Outline ("Applebee’s America, or whatever we’re calling it now, is entirely content to remain unfamiliar with artisanal bistros and David Foster Wallace"). This makes no sense to me
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: Thanks for checking in, @UM! Have a blast with the extended fam.
	10:35am Dean: Brooks is a dimwit. If anybody spends his piddling career purveying "right attitudes," it's Brooks.
	♥ 10:35am listener james from westwood: The inherent risk is in using David Brooks as a lens for reality, or indeed for anything other than being an outwardly genteel wielder of many dog whistles.
	10:37am Dean: Yeah, what @ljfw said!
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: (What @Dean and @lfjw said.)
	♥ 10:37am listener james from westwood: It's hilarious when they have Brooks and E.J. Dionne on together on NPR. Dionne you can imagine actually living in the real world that Brooks only carefully probes with tongs and a wince.
	♥ 10:37am fred: Well put, James, but how the fuck did DFW turn into a dog whistle?
	♥ 10:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh Gawsh - there's a Capitalist Oligarchy that has systematically dismantled all Human Value? & people are reacting to it? I hadn't noticed...
	10:39am Dean: Infinite Jest runs more than 1000 pages, that's how.
	♥ 10:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...because the Free Market enabled my three-piece suit...
	♥ 10:41am listener james from westwood: Some folks use DFW as an easy trope for something that makes them uncomfortable, is the closest I can guess. One could likely swap a lot of things in for DFW depending on who's looking to turn the crank on the outrage siren. But there I go summing up social media again.
	♥ 10:41am Jeff Golick: If anything, @fred, I can surmise that Brooks is making DFW out to be a dog whistle for the Left ("Left"), in that, if you don't have the "right attitude" about his work (i.e., that it's genius, I guess), you are an outcast. But that's just a wildly uniformed guess.
	10:41am glenn: i'm all for people making a profit, the question is - how much? i hate the unabashed greed of pretty much every right wing dickwad on the planet.
	♥ 10:41am listener james from westwood: (Okay, I overstate on the social media count. I see some people there I know and trust more often than some folks I know IRL. But you get my drift.)
	♥ 10:44am listener james from westwood: Greed, or generally, self-interest expressed maliciously, is not a trait exclusive to the declared or presumed right wing, is where I'd start.
	♥ 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'd like to admire Brooks as a thotful person who knows some facts & history - but how can you & be that blind...not that I didn't believe every poll in the universe myself on election day...
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: It's the greed, married with an unshakable conviction that the money is almost morally deserved, that really gets to me.
	♥ 10:45am fred: @Dean: but Infinite Jest doesn't require a lit degree to read, if anything, getting through it should grant you one, but doesn't
	10:45am Dean: Right wing dickwads gotta pay bills, too. (File Right Wing Dickwads under possible band names.) I'm not even sure I understand what self-interest means. Short term? Long term? Taking account of externalities?
	♥ 10:47am fred: To sycophants, self-interest isn't even selfish, it's their best bet as to what their lords will enjoy
	10:48am Dean: I don't imagine any great literature requires a degree to read, @fred. As you point out, it should work in the opposite direction.
	♥ 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: You give Money free reign - & Democracy & Freedom go the highest bidder. & have. Chomsky's right - consent is manufactured.
	♥ 10:50am Jeff Golick: Can someone please make a fart joke or something?
	♥ 10:51am listener james from westwood: Q. Where do dental professionals go to find a date? A. OK Cuspid.
	10:51am Dean: Invoking David Brooks is a fart joke.
	10:52am glenn: if a capitalist farts in a room...
	10:54am glenn: and john kenneth galbraith said it best, in my opinion - The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. Read more at: www.brainyquote.com...
	10:54am Dean: Gross domestic product?
	♥ 10:55am fred: Looks like soundcloud is close to folding: techcrunch.com... Get your stuff out of there while you can
	♥ 10:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but we can Monetize farts...install methane meters & make it just another Company policy...do you want this job or not?
	♥ 11:02am fred: @RevRab: as long as I don't have to personally estimate the sulfur content, it's a job, so why not take it? You know, I have a station to contribute to
	11:02am Dean: Farts want to be free.
	♥ 11:04am fred: Looks like we got into the freeform Jeff section. My favorite part of the show
	11:04am Dean: I think Queens of the Stone Age copped a riff from this song.
	♥ 11:07am fred: And that's because I have no idea what's coming next, except that it will be good
	♥ 11:08am Jeff Golick: You and me both, @fred.
	♥ 11:09am doctorjazz: As for Philly, I like going there occasionally to hear music with a friend who lives there, Less expensive than NYC, pressed hassle, but there's nowhere near as much there in Jazz or 'new music- as they're is in NYC, and I haven't gone to Trane's house, but it seems it would be a short distraction, then what (haven't been to Satch-s house either, seems more of interest goes on there). They're are some people bringing new music back to Philly, Ars Nova, the club Johnny Brenda's, but I think more goes on in -Hip Brooklyn-in a week than goes on all year in Philly. As per David Weinstein's Wednesday show. If one is around t this October, though, there is a festival, The October Revolution in Philly, that I hope I can get to, great line up.
	♥ 11:10am doctorjazz: (that was a lot to post on a phone, Ozzie is being very patient)
	♥ 11:11am doctorjazz: Fun set, rifftastic!
	♥ 11:12am listener james from westwood: Pertinent to DFW and to Federer just winning Wimbledon: DFW on RF. mobile.nytimes.com...
	11:12am glenn: monetizing farts, huh? www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:14am Jeff Golick: Go, Fed. Was pulling for Venus yesterday...
	♥ 11:14am Stanley: Life's inner meaning...and my latest fling. Brilliant.
	♥ 11:17am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I am not as fluent in early Roxy as should be.
	11:17am Dean: DFW on RF deploys the facile analogy I will never get and, therefore, will always deny: "Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty."
	♥ 11:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Geez. LeeMorgan. Is this one of those BlueNotes played Live to like two microphones w/ basically no mixing?
	♥ 11:25am fred: This Lee Morgan is something
	♥ 11:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I'm sure not really that spartan - just - Geez.
	♥ 11:26am Jeff Golick: Sounding thin, you mean, @RRN63?
	♥ 11:27am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No! Sounding definitive w/ only basic means.
	♥ 11:28am doctorjazz: I do think that was the way jazz (and much other recording) was done in the early 60's. I think it sounds GREAT!
	11:28am Dean: And still today c/o Marc Rusch at CIMP.
	♥ 11:30am fred: Patti!
	♥ 11:30am coelacanth∅: well, you made me get up - to crank this up!
	11:31am northguineahills: A little late to the party, but does anyone knows what happened to Susie Ibarra? She was one of the most amazing percussionists, and then she dropped off the radar. The last I heard, she was in Houston.
	♥ 11:33am fred: SK!!!
	♥ 11:34am doctorjazz: OK, concert links: fringearts.com... (look at that line up, WOW) In NYC, coming soon.... www.citywinery.com... (love anything Bernstein is involved with, great additions, been getting much into Nels Cline recently). And, for a not too expensive headphone (the audiophile geek in me coming out). www.massdrop.com... just used these for dog walk, nice wood outside, nice sounding inside, list for about $200 but have seen them in the $125-150 range).
	♥ 11:35am coelacanth∅: and This! ngh, i didn't know; i figured i just wasn't paying attention. i especially love her work with David Ware.
	11:35am northguineahills: Haven't heard that Sleater Kinney in ages!
	♥ 11:36am fred: I'm actually wearing a SK T-shirt with a cat in front and the band name in the back
	♥ 11:36am doctorjazz: OK, gotta get ready for family barbecue in Long Island (the drive, yuck), thanks for the fine tunes, great week all!
	♥ 11:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx fpr headphone tip (tho' won't open on my old Mac). - Fun stuff!
	11:38am Dean: Can't resist the audiophile bait. A buddy of mine finally acquired a pair of speakers after a few years without, during which he listened exclusively through 'phones and 'buds. He spent the first few days listening to a couple dozen records through the speakers, and then admitted that he has been "irresponsible" to the music these past few years.
	♥ 11:38am Jeff Golick: Bye, @doctorjazz! Thanks for the links and comments!
	♥ 11:42am doctorjazz: Have a good speaker based system, Audiiophile approved, but it's in the living room need to move stuff, my music choices disturb my family, use headphones much more these days...
	♥ 11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always headphones for walking anywhere. Important!
	♥ 11:44am doctorjazz: That link was for the Thinksound On2, which happens to be on sale at Massdrop right now, but they do go on sale periodically
	11:44am Dean: Your problem, @doctorjazz, is the concept of "choices." Eliminate it and your family will relent.
	♥ 11:44am doctorjazz: Eliminated my family?...
	11:45am northguineahills: Thanks for the Superchunk and Sloan! Once I move into my new place, I can finally listen to music on a proper hi-fi soundsystem. I never walk w/ hedfons, I have music playing in my head anyways (and I'm so absent-minded, I'd be liable to walk in front of a ca).
	♥ 11:45am doctorjazz: (looked like the kids were doing that, but they keep coming back...)
	11:45am Dean: They'll soon recognize that the music over the system is an unavoidable cost of living, like utility bills.
	♥ 11:46am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Probab. more rural here - but ya gotta pay attention.
	♥ 11:46am doctorjazz: Who do you think is covering the utility bills...?
	11:47am northguineahills: I signed my lease, and I can bike to work in the winter, it's only a little over 5km. (I'd need a shower in the summer, it usually 34 C by 9am.)
	11:47am Dean: The person who should call the tune?
	♥ 11:48am coelacanth∅: sometimes it's as important to me to feel the music. if i turned headphones up enough to do that i'd have a constant headache!
	♥ 11:48am doctorjazz: I'm a wimp, what can I tell you. And, I actually do like using cans...
	♥ 11:51am fred: @NGH: So this is real for real?
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: Hi, @ngh! Congrats on the lease-signing. That's a big day.
	11:51am Dean: I'm not entirely paternalistic/patriarchal, but having become a family man late-ish in life, I'm habituated to a playlist of my own devising. It's one of the few sacrifices I can't or won't make. I get the attraction to 'phones, but I've never found them comfortable, and the reorientation of the source of the music from outside the skull to inside disturbs me.
	♥ 11:51am coelacanth∅: for me it's also that i'm usually doing other things while i listen to music, so i just want to fill the apartment with sound. ...it's enough of a priority to me that i've stated this in my craigslist ad for a housemate - that they need to be down with that.
	11:51am northguineahills: @Fred: Yes, I move in Aug 5th, and start work Aug 8th.
	11:52am northguineahills: I somehow never picked up Village of the Pharoahs.
	♥ 11:53am coelacanth∅: congratulations ngh!
	♥ 11:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell - I listen w/ phones @ Werk - already a loud environment these days.
	♥ 11:57am doctorjazz: Congrate NGH! (@Dean-there's an audiophile subculture centered around headphones, lots of great stuff out there...)
	♥ 11:57am fred: This Frank Wright track is worth turning the volume up some
	11:58am northguineahills: The day before I left NYC, I sat on my turtle shell headphones. They still work, I just need to piece them together. Good pair, they have 4m of cord, so, at work, I almost never need to take them off. (although I have cordless headphones i got as a gift, but the sound quality isn't the same).
	♥ 11:58am doctorjazz: (gonna be late to my sister's house, oh well...)
	♥ 11:59am Stanley: Stove Man, Love is the Word. Word.
	♥ 11:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's so much to listen to now w/ podcasts &tc. ... The structure always falls apart before the speaker part of the phones...
	♥ 11:59am listener james from westwood: many thanks, Jeff!
	12:00pm northguineahills: Thanks Jeff, and thanks again for the album covers.
	♥ 12:00pm fred: Thanks Jeff, I enjoyed this show, a lot
	♥ 12:00pm doctorjazz: (lots of clicky stars this show...)
	♥ 12:00pm Stanley: Wow, what a way to end. Terrific three hours entertainment, Jeff. Many thanks. Take care all.
	♥ 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes T Y !
	♥ 12:03pm coelacanth∅: i didn't clickystar anything...oh, except the whole episode! (i kept wanting to click things too) Thanks Jeff! later on y'all
	♥ 12:04pm Jeff Golick: Bye you're all fantastic. Thanks to you!
	♥ 4:21pm Jeff Golick: Hi. Looks like, due to a computer glitch at the mothership, this ep was not preserved. So there is unfortunately no archived show; sorry about that!

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July 16, 2017: Rumprolling.

Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970
John Coltrane	Body and Soul "Body and Soul" by "John Coltrane"	Coltrane's Sound	Atlantic	1960/1964
John Coltrane	Lonnie's Lament "Lonnie's Lament" by "John Coltrane"	Crescent	Impulse!	1964
John Coltrane	The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost	Meditations	Impulse!	1965
John Coltrane	Naima "Naima" by "John Coltrane"	Offering: Live at Temple University	Impulse!	1967/2014
John Coltrane	Expression "Expression" by "John Coltrane"	Expression	Impluse!	1967
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Granny on the Gramophone
William Parker	Sunrise in East Harlem	Meditation / Resurrection	AUM Fidelity	2017
Susie Ibarra	Fractal 3 "Fractal 3" by "Susie Ibarra"	Flower After Flower	Tzadik	2000	Cooper Moore, piano.
Ned Rothenberg & Hamid Drake	Amazing Grace	Full Circle: Live in Łódź 2016	Fundacja Słuchaj!	2017
Kevin Norton	Staten Island "Staten Island" by "Kevin Norton"	Breakfast of Champignon(s)	[self released]	2017
Steve Beresford	A Unique Haircut "A Unique Haircut" by "Steve Beresford"	Hesistantly Pleasant	Iluso	2017
Lean Left	Cardiac Impression "Cardiac Impression" by "Lean Left"	I Forgot to Breathe	Trost	2017
Fred Van Hove & Cel Overberghe	6 x 1	WIth Strings – Met Strijkers - Avec Cordes	Kamikaze	1977
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & the MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & the MGs"
Teenage Fanclub	Eternal Light "Eternal Light" by "Teenage Fanclub"	A Catholic Education	Matador	1990
Lyres	Not Looking Back "Not Looking Back" by "Lyres"	Lyres Lyres	Ace of Hearts	1986
Creedence Clearwater Revival	Ninety-Nine and a Half	Creedence Clearwater Revival	Fantasy	1968
Scruffy the Cat	Mybabyshe'salright	Tiny Days	Relativity	1987
Roxy Music	Mother of Pearl "Mother of Pearl" by "Roxy Music"	Stranded	Island	1973
Lee Morgan	The Rumproller "The Rumproller" by "Lee Morgan"	The Rumproller	Blue Note	1965
Patti Smith	Redondo Beach "Redondo Beach" by "Patti Smith"	Horses	Arista	1975
Sleater Kinney	Off with Your Head	Off With Your Head b/w Lions and Tigers	Kill Rock Stars	2002
Superchunk	Slack Motherfucker "Slack Motherfucker" by "Superchunk"	Slack Motherfucker 7"	Merge	1990
Sloan	Losing California "Losing California" by "Sloan"	Between the Bridges	Murderecords	1999
Frank Wright / Georges Arvanitas	Reverend Blues	Shouting the Blues	Sun	1977
Pharoah Sanders	Memories of Lee Morgan	Village of the Pharoahs	Impulse!	1972
Frank Wright Sextet	Export "Export" by "Frank Wright Sextet"	Stove Man, Love Is the Word	Sandra Music Productions	1979
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Carolilne	1975

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Listener comments!
	♥ 9:02am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	♥ 9:02am listener james from westwood: Happy Sunday, Jeff and all!
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: Good morning (afternoon?) to you, @fred, and happy Sunday to you, @listener james!
	♥ 9:08am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Home is where the Coltrane is.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: If we're lucky, @Revolution Rabbit! Welcome.
	♥ 9:11am Stanley: Hi Jeff and friends. We trust each other, like family I love my WFMU family and on the Drummer Stream it feels like close family. Is there a blood type FMU+?
	♥ 9:12am Jeff Golick: Lovely, @Stanley. I do believe we are all suitable donors.
	♥ 9:14am Stanley: This Coltrane is perfect on this warm, peaceful Sunday afternoon
	♥ 9:17am Jeff Golick: McCoy Tyner just played a festival up the Hudson River from NYC...
	♥ 9:22am Stanley: From the Coltrane doc, I gather that a lot took place in Philadelphia. If I ever get over to the US, would it be worth a visit for this reason?
	♥ 9:25am Jeff Golick: Hmm...I really don't know the answer to that question. I know they've been working to turn his home into a museum, but not sure where they are with it: www.johncoltranehouse.org
	♥ 9:29am fred: @Stanley: doctorjazz, who's often on the comment boards, should be able to give you tips
	♥ 9:32am Stanley: Thanks Fred and Jeff. Good idea.
	♥ 9:34am Stanley: Digging what must be the Holy Ghost bit. It's pretty far out, to say the least.
	♥ 9:34am Uncle Michael: We're getting closer to our Destination.
	♥ 9:35am Jeff Golick: Juuuuuuuuuust about there, yes. Hello, @Uncle Michael. If this is Sunday, you must be in...?
	♥ 9:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's an interesting thing. Trane came out of Philly, which was deffo a scene - I think as a kind of halfway point between the South & North for many? He was born in NorthCarolina I believe - from a long line of Preachers & such. Was in the Navy in Hawaii I think... But like Hendrix, not an Artist I associate w/ a single specific locale, really - out of my ignorance or otherwise. Hm. NYC for everybody I guess...
	♥ 9:37am Uncle Michael: ...Omaha.
	♥ 9:38am Jeff Golick: Oh! Maha! Nice. Nice?
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: Are there artists (in any genre) who changed their overall conception as much as Trane (and I guess Miles) over the course of a career? To the point of alienating earlier fans? I guess Picasso...Dylan...
	9:41am duke: Hello D:O
	9:41am Dean: Scott Walker?
	9:43am Dean: Ezra Pound? (Some alienation due to reasons outside the purely literary.)
	♥ 9:43am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that's a good one, @Dean. Hi, @Dean! Greetings, @duke!
	♥ 9:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Maybe that was an era when people got around much more & distinct cities & coasts began to lose their distinct & even opposed natures... TheBeatles & Lennon embodied restless evolution - but were of course the most popular thing ever also...Trane prefigured PsychedelicRawk pretty directly - a straight line to the bYRdS & then everyone, for instance...the connection to RaviShankar is almost circular amongst those - & then Olatunji - prefigures 'World Music' directly... Anyhow - yes, those are the Artists who represent that, I think. I sometimes compare Lennon & Malcolm X in political/spiritual/public evolution... John Coltrane was distinctly on a Quest, & determined to Manifest what he found in his actual life & work...
	♥ 9:47am fred: Metallica? Though I guess you mean changed in a good way...
	♥ 9:48am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff and OUTies
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Ha, "good way" is totally subjective, I guess, @fred.
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @coelacanth∅!
	♥ 9:51am Jeff Golick: And, yeah, @RRN63, I guess the Beatles are in some way Exhibit A, although they somehow brought everyone along for the ride.
	♥ 9:52am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Dylan became widely known 1st as a 'protest singer' - & Coltrane stood firmly @ the crossroads of Jazz's changes from the start ('will he find himself', 'where is he going??') - & the Critics there were having a field day being Critics about all that...Does anyone bother to Critique Jazz anymore?
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: Do people quest anymore?
	9:55am duke: Expression was the first Trane record I bought. It totally blew my poor teenage mind.
	9:56am glenn: what like, destinators?
	♥ 9:56am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Right. Maybe now on DMT. Trane made it explicit he was out to musically explore to the max & find himself.
	♥ 9:57am Jeff Golick: @duke: that's a tough entry point!
	♥ 9:57am fred: I think Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker's move away from a mostly female company where dancers personalities were a big part of her work qualifies. I don't know if it's eligible as art, but Wittgenstein moving from the Tractatus to Philosophical Investigations is jarring though I think it's more coherent than what the hype says
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: Likin' that you're here, @glenn. Howdy.
	♥ 9:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There were Existentialists & Beats & Expressionists...& then - the 60s.
	10:00am Doug Schulkind: 50 years without Coltrane. 50 million years with Coltrane.
	♥ 10:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but it wasn't PostModernism yet. People still thot it Mattered.
	10:01am Dean: Cage, but perhaps he alienated everybody from the get-go. Wittgenstein is a great example, @fred. Zorn?
	♥ 10:02am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like losing Hendrix for Rawk. Where the hell do we go now - ?!
	10:06am Dean: Dennis Miller? Bill Maher? Real questers, those guys.
	10:07am Dean: And of course Dr. Seuss.
	♥ 10:07am Uncle Michael: Omaha is nice. Humid. Fun, family reunion.
	10:09am Dean: Repetition, too, is a quest. See, e.g., Mark E Smith.
	♥ 10:09am doctorjazz: Slept in, just getting on the Trane, hi all! Off with Ozzie...
	10:12am Dean: Bach's ouevre exhibits quest-like ambitions, albeit not along a chronological trajectory. That sentence is either exactly right or complete bullshit.
	♥ 10:12am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: MEs influenced by Iggy, who asserted, 'our tastes were sophisticated - & our skills primitive.' As John Peel said: 'TheFall - always different - always the same.'
	10:14am Dean: Bartok's and Beethoven's string quartets...
	♥ 10:14am Jeff Golick: Hi, @doctorjazz. There was a Philly question for you up the thread a ways, if you get a mo...
	10:16am Dean: Virginia Woolf
	♥ 10:16am Jeff Golick: Wait! @Doug! Forgot to say hi to @Doug! Hi, @Doug. Hope you are doing ok.
	♥ 10:17am Jeff Golick: Woolf makes me think of James Joyce. Is it a modernism thing?
	♥ 10:18am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I've heard Bach was actually considered a tad old-fashioned in his own time - tho' his skill & productivity had to have been respected...maybe his writing for all instruments & ensembles is an example - tho' I'm punching far above my weight now... Beethoven said to be transitional from old-stylee Patronage to Moderne 'pay me I'm a famous Artiste' era - w/ new approaches to Tonality. Ignorant of how much transition is in evidence over his output... Kerouac going from aping TomWolfe to writing one long uninterrupted Road of scrolled paper spontaneously on a speed jag in a comparable era...& really Joyce is before him.
	♥ 10:20am fred: I have a hard time putting Woolf and Joyce in a same category, though I love both
	♥ 10:20am Stanley: Lovely piece, this.
	♥ 10:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes it is. ...& Kerouac had no one to alienate yet...tho' the relation to Jazz couldn't be more overt.
	10:23am Dean: That seems right, @Jeff G., but I am of the mind that we have always been modernist., contra Latour (whose work on the topic I have not read, but why should that stop me from spouting an opinion?). You can hear in Bach that he wrote music for a living, no question. But then in addition to a cantata or two every week there are these sublimely tiny works he compiled for exercises and the cornucopia that is (are?) the Goldberg Variations.
	♥ 10:24am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bach wrote for a Living - & for Gawd - just like Coltrane or BrianWilson.
	♥ 10:25am fred: I'm a bit puzzled by the current trend to bash David Foster Wallace as a symbol of out-of-touch elites at best, trumpism at worst. That's kind of a big switch too
	♥ 10:27am Jeff Golick: Now that's something I haven't seen/heard yet, @fred. Where have you spotted this?
	10:28am Dean: Maybe a stretch, but Sondheim?
	♥ 10:28am doctorjazz: Love this ibarra piece (still catching up on comments... Reading while walking ozzie... Lots of comments today, mostly above my cultural pay grade...). Post more soon...
	♥ 10:31am Uncle Michael: Heading out. Everyone have a great day. Thanks for the music, Jeff.
	♥ 10:33am fred: Several times in places like The Baffler, most recently about the now infamous Brooks "sandwich" piece ("To feel at home in opportunity-rich areas, you’ve got to [...] possess the right attitudes about David Foster Wallace") and the Outline ("Applebee’s America, or whatever we’re calling it now, is entirely content to remain unfamiliar with artisanal bistros and David Foster Wallace"). This makes no sense to me
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: Thanks for checking in, @UM! Have a blast with the extended fam.
	10:35am Dean: Brooks is a dimwit. If anybody spends his piddling career purveying "right attitudes," it's Brooks.
	♥ 10:35am listener james from westwood: The inherent risk is in using David Brooks as a lens for reality, or indeed for anything other than being an outwardly genteel wielder of many dog whistles.
	10:37am Dean: Yeah, what @ljfw said!
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: (What @Dean and @lfjw said.)
	♥ 10:37am listener james from westwood: It's hilarious when they have Brooks and E.J. Dionne on together on NPR. Dionne you can imagine actually living in the real world that Brooks only carefully probes with tongs and a wince.
	♥ 10:37am fred: Well put, James, but how the fuck did DFW turn into a dog whistle?
	♥ 10:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh Gawsh - there's a Capitalist Oligarchy that has systematically dismantled all Human Value? & people are reacting to it? I hadn't noticed...
	10:39am Dean: Infinite Jest runs more than 1000 pages, that's how.
	♥ 10:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...because the Free Market enabled my three-piece suit...
	♥ 10:41am listener james from westwood: Some folks use DFW as an easy trope for something that makes them uncomfortable, is the closest I can guess. One could likely swap a lot of things in for DFW depending on who's looking to turn the crank on the outrage siren. But there I go summing up social media again.
	♥ 10:41am Jeff Golick: If anything, @fred, I can surmise that Brooks is making DFW out to be a dog whistle for the Left ("Left"), in that, if you don't have the "right attitude" about his work (i.e., that it's genius, I guess), you are an outcast. But that's just a wildly uniformed guess.
	10:41am glenn: i'm all for people making a profit, the question is - how much? i hate the unabashed greed of pretty much every right wing dickwad on the planet.
	♥ 10:41am listener james from westwood: (Okay, I overstate on the social media count. I see some people there I know and trust more often than some folks I know IRL. But you get my drift.)
	♥ 10:44am listener james from westwood: Greed, or generally, self-interest expressed maliciously, is not a trait exclusive to the declared or presumed right wing, is where I'd start.
	♥ 10:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'd like to admire Brooks as a thotful person who knows some facts & history - but how can you & be that blind...not that I didn't believe every poll in the universe myself on election day...
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: It's the greed, married with an unshakable conviction that the money is almost morally deserved, that really gets to me.
	♥ 10:45am fred: @Dean: but Infinite Jest doesn't require a lit degree to read, if anything, getting through it should grant you one, but doesn't
	10:45am Dean: Right wing dickwads gotta pay bills, too. (File Right Wing Dickwads under possible band names.) I'm not even sure I understand what self-interest means. Short term? Long term? Taking account of externalities?
	♥ 10:47am fred: To sycophants, self-interest isn't even selfish, it's their best bet as to what their lords will enjoy
	10:48am Dean: I don't imagine any great literature requires a degree to read, @fred. As you point out, it should work in the opposite direction.
	♥ 10:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: You give Money free reign - & Democracy & Freedom go the highest bidder. & have. Chomsky's right - consent is manufactured.
	♥ 10:50am Jeff Golick: Can someone please make a fart joke or something?
	♥ 10:51am listener james from westwood: Q. Where do dental professionals go to find a date? A. OK Cuspid.
	10:51am Dean: Invoking David Brooks is a fart joke.
	10:52am glenn: if a capitalist farts in a room...
	10:54am glenn: and john kenneth galbraith said it best, in my opinion - The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. Read more at: www.brainyquote.com...
	10:54am Dean: Gross domestic product?
	♥ 10:55am fred: Looks like soundcloud is close to folding: techcrunch.com... Get your stuff out of there while you can
	♥ 10:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but we can Monetize farts...install methane meters & make it just another Company policy...do you want this job or not?
	♥ 11:02am fred: @RevRab: as long as I don't have to personally estimate the sulfur content, it's a job, so why not take it? You know, I have a station to contribute to
	11:02am Dean: Farts want to be free.
	♥ 11:04am fred: Looks like we got into the freeform Jeff section. My favorite part of the show
	11:04am Dean: I think Queens of the Stone Age copped a riff from this song.
	♥ 11:07am fred: And that's because I have no idea what's coming next, except that it will be good
	♥ 11:08am Jeff Golick: You and me both, @fred.
	♥ 11:09am doctorjazz: As for Philly, I like going there occasionally to hear music with a friend who lives there, Less expensive than NYC, pressed hassle, but there's nowhere near as much there in Jazz or 'new music- as they're is in NYC, and I haven't gone to Trane's house, but it seems it would be a short distraction, then what (haven't been to Satch-s house either, seems more of interest goes on there). They're are some people bringing new music back to Philly, Ars Nova, the club Johnny Brenda's, but I think more goes on in -Hip Brooklyn-in a week than goes on all year in Philly. As per David Weinstein's Wednesday show. If one is around t this October, though, there is a festival, The October Revolution in Philly, that I hope I can get to, great line up.
	♥ 11:10am doctorjazz: (that was a lot to post on a phone, Ozzie is being very patient)
	♥ 11:11am doctorjazz: Fun set, rifftastic!
	♥ 11:12am listener james from westwood: Pertinent to DFW and to Federer just winning Wimbledon: DFW on RF. mobile.nytimes.com...
	11:12am glenn: monetizing farts, huh? www.youtube.com...
	♥ 11:14am Jeff Golick: Go, Fed. Was pulling for Venus yesterday...
	♥ 11:14am Stanley: Life's inner meaning...and my latest fling. Brilliant.
	♥ 11:17am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I am not as fluent in early Roxy as should be.
	11:17am Dean: DFW on RF deploys the facile analogy I will never get and, therefore, will always deny: "Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty."
	♥ 11:22am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Geez. LeeMorgan. Is this one of those BlueNotes played Live to like two microphones w/ basically no mixing?
	♥ 11:25am fred: This Lee Morgan is something
	♥ 11:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I'm sure not really that spartan - just - Geez.
	♥ 11:26am Jeff Golick: Sounding thin, you mean, @RRN63?
	♥ 11:27am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No! Sounding definitive w/ only basic means.
	♥ 11:28am doctorjazz: I do think that was the way jazz (and much other recording) was done in the early 60's. I think it sounds GREAT!
	11:28am Dean: And still today c/o Marc Rusch at CIMP.
	♥ 11:30am fred: Patti!
	♥ 11:30am coelacanth∅: well, you made me get up - to crank this up!
	11:31am northguineahills: A little late to the party, but does anyone knows what happened to Susie Ibarra? She was one of the most amazing percussionists, and then she dropped off the radar. The last I heard, she was in Houston.
	♥ 11:33am fred: SK!!!
	♥ 11:34am doctorjazz: OK, concert links: fringearts.com... (look at that line up, WOW) In NYC, coming soon.... www.citywinery.com... (love anything Bernstein is involved with, great additions, been getting much into Nels Cline recently). And, for a not too expensive headphone (the audiophile geek in me coming out). www.massdrop.com... just used these for dog walk, nice wood outside, nice sounding inside, list for about $200 but have seen them in the $125-150 range).
	♥ 11:35am coelacanth∅: and This! ngh, i didn't know; i figured i just wasn't paying attention. i especially love her work with David Ware.
	11:35am northguineahills: Haven't heard that Sleater Kinney in ages!
	♥ 11:36am fred: I'm actually wearing a SK T-shirt with a cat in front and the band name in the back
	♥ 11:36am doctorjazz: OK, gotta get ready for family barbecue in Long Island (the drive, yuck), thanks for the fine tunes, great week all!
	♥ 11:37am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx fpr headphone tip (tho' won't open on my old Mac). - Fun stuff!
	11:38am Dean: Can't resist the audiophile bait. A buddy of mine finally acquired a pair of speakers after a few years without, during which he listened exclusively through 'phones and 'buds. He spent the first few days listening to a couple dozen records through the speakers, and then admitted that he has been "irresponsible" to the music these past few years.
	♥ 11:38am Jeff Golick: Bye, @doctorjazz! Thanks for the links and comments!
	♥ 11:42am doctorjazz: Have a good speaker based system, Audiiophile approved, but it's in the living room need to move stuff, my music choices disturb my family, use headphones much more these days...
	♥ 11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always headphones for walking anywhere. Important!
	♥ 11:44am doctorjazz: That link was for the Thinksound On2, which happens to be on sale at Massdrop right now, but they do go on sale periodically
	11:44am Dean: Your problem, @doctorjazz, is the concept of "choices." Eliminate it and your family will relent.
	♥ 11:44am doctorjazz: Eliminated my family?...
	11:45am northguineahills: Thanks for the Superchunk and Sloan! Once I move into my new place, I can finally listen to music on a proper hi-fi soundsystem. I never walk w/ hedfons, I have music playing in my head anyways (and I'm so absent-minded, I'd be liable to walk in front of a ca).
	♥ 11:45am doctorjazz: (looked like the kids were doing that, but they keep coming back...)
	11:45am Dean: They'll soon recognize that the music over the system is an unavoidable cost of living, like utility bills.
	♥ 11:46am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Probab. more rural here - but ya gotta pay attention.
	♥ 11:46am doctorjazz: Who do you think is covering the utility bills...?
	11:47am northguineahills: I signed my lease, and I can bike to work in the winter, it's only a little over 5km. (I'd need a shower in the summer, it usually 34 C by 9am.)
	11:47am Dean: The person who should call the tune?
	♥ 11:48am coelacanth∅: sometimes it's as important to me to feel the music. if i turned headphones up enough to do that i'd have a constant headache!
	♥ 11:48am doctorjazz: I'm a wimp, what can I tell you. And, I actually do like using cans...
	♥ 11:51am fred: @NGH: So this is real for real?
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: Hi, @ngh! Congrats on the lease-signing. That's a big day.
	11:51am Dean: I'm not entirely paternalistic/patriarchal, but having become a family man late-ish in life, I'm habituated to a playlist of my own devising. It's one of the few sacrifices I can't or won't make. I get the attraction to 'phones, but I've never found them comfortable, and the reorientation of the source of the music from outside the skull to inside disturbs me.
	♥ 11:51am coelacanth∅: for me it's also that i'm usually doing other things while i listen to music, so i just want to fill the apartment with sound. ...it's enough of a priority to me that i've stated this in my craigslist ad for a housemate - that they need to be down with that.
	11:51am northguineahills: @Fred: Yes, I move in Aug 5th, and start work Aug 8th.
	11:52am northguineahills: I somehow never picked up Village of the Pharoahs.
	♥ 11:53am coelacanth∅: congratulations ngh!
	♥ 11:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell - I listen w/ phones @ Werk - already a loud environment these days.
	♥ 11:57am doctorjazz: Congrate NGH! (@Dean-there's an audiophile subculture centered around headphones, lots of great stuff out there...)
	♥ 11:57am fred: This Frank Wright track is worth turning the volume up some
	11:58am northguineahills: The day before I left NYC, I sat on my turtle shell headphones. They still work, I just need to piece them together. Good pair, they have 4m of cord, so, at work, I almost never need to take them off. (although I have cordless headphones i got as a gift, but the sound quality isn't the same).
	♥ 11:58am doctorjazz: (gonna be late to my sister's house, oh well...)
	♥ 11:59am Stanley: Stove Man, Love is the Word. Word.
	♥ 11:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's so much to listen to now w/ podcasts &tc. ... The structure always falls apart before the speaker part of the phones...
	♥ 11:59am listener james from westwood: many thanks, Jeff!
	12:00pm northguineahills: Thanks Jeff, and thanks again for the album covers.
	♥ 12:00pm fred: Thanks Jeff, I enjoyed this show, a lot
	♥ 12:00pm doctorjazz: (lots of clicky stars this show...)
	♥ 12:00pm Stanley: Wow, what a way to end. Terrific three hours entertainment, Jeff. Many thanks. Take care all.
	♥ 12:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes T Y !
	♥ 12:03pm coelacanth∅: i didn't clickystar anything...oh, except the whole episode! (i kept wanting to click things too) Thanks Jeff! later on y'all
	♥ 12:04pm Jeff Golick: Bye you're all fantastic. Thanks to you!
	♥ 4:21pm Jeff Golick: Hi. Looks like, due to a computer glitch at the mothership, this ep was not preserved. So there is unfortunately no archived show; sorry about that!

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