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A live, improvised sound collage experiment, going back 28 years, weaving mesmerizing new soundscapes from found and collected materials right in the present moment.
Pop music, speeches, live phone calls and spontaneous monologues become ambient loopy layered threads riding the liminal spaces between waking and dreaming. [On hiatus.] (Visit homepage.)

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Favoriting August 9, 2017: Swirled Freely & You Have Nowhere to Go (What's Wrong?) | Download full MP4

We'll hear two more dreamy, mysterious live sound collage creations from my long-ago performances:

First, "Swirled Freely," a wordless and happy-dream-making lazy layering play of field recordings from all over the world, and pleasing electronic musics from many joymakers. Originally collaged live on radio in Austin, January 2005.

Second, a very spooky dream immersion called "You Have Nowhere to Go (What's wrong?)", a spontaneous live radio study from 2004, repurposing the sound montage elements that made the 1971 film THX 1138 so scarily transportative.

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Artist Track Album Year Comments Approx. start time
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  Swirled Freely   Favoriting Show #348 from Jan. 4, 2005  2005  Full list of audio samples here!  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Swirled Freely
Etienne Noiseau  Waiting for the Mass   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  Duomo, Siena, Italy, 2004. Field recording  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Matteo Trisoglio  cascatella   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Field recording  0:11:55 (Pop-up)
Gunnar Gentzsch  Berlin backyard   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Field recording  0:12:23 (Pop-up)
Alan Leveton  Bhutan festival   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:12:54 (Pop-up)
Arnaud of TMRX  BMX bikers   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:01 (Pop-up)
Quiet American  Stonecarvers   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:10 (Pop-up)
Christopher Wilde  Wandering Sufi musicians   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:17 (Pop-up)
John Vollmer  Englisher Garten   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation / Whenitwas - Ambient Sounds  2003  Munich. Field recording  0:13:37 (Pop-up)
Eric La Casa  Rue de la Casa   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:44 (Pop-up)
Ben Shewmaker  After school   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:50 (Pop-up)
Andrew Lackey  Polyrhythmic tires from under a bridge   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:13:58 (Pop-up)
Liz Bustamante (Noise and Light)  Grinders   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation      0:14:03 (Pop-up)
Xavier Briche  Tricycle   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  1994  Summer 1994, France. Field recording  0:14:21 (Pop-up)
Eisuke Yanagisawa  beiju   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  May 2004, Japan. Field recording  0:14:34 (Pop-up)
Simon Lofting  Samye 7am   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  2004, Tibet. Field recording  0:14:47 (Pop-up)
Frederic Yarm  Park Street Station   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Boston. Field recording  0:14:57 (Pop-up)
Derek BF Gunnlaugson  Brandon Riverbank   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  Aug. 2004, Canada. Field recording  0:15:52 (Pop-up)
Grant Finlay  Auckland Dawn Chorus   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  Nov. 2004, New Zealand. Field recording  0:16:04 (Pop-up)
James aka Catskin Royale  Waiting for Poppies   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  Nov. 2004, London. Field recording  0:16:14 (Pop-up)
Jay Thomas  Mission Wind   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  May 2004, San Francisco. Field recording  0:16:32 (Pop-up)
Mirko Uhlig  9am Rain   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  Sept. 2004, Germany. Field recording  0:16:45 (Pop-up)
Daryl Richel  Israel Air Raid   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  1991  1991, Israel. Field recording  0:16:56 (Pop-up)
fognode  Duquaine Frogs   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  May 2004, Nashville. Field recording  0:17:05 (Pop-up)
Jim Murphy aka DJ Flywheel  Back Garden   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2003  June 2003, UK. Field recording  0:17:20 (Pop-up)
Sarah Elzas  Avanos   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2002  April 2002, Turkey. Field recording  0:17:50 (Pop-up)
Mark Ragsdale  PC Room   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Korea. Field recording  0:18:00 (Pop-up)
Joseph Young  Suffolk   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2003  Oct. 2003, UK. Field recording  0:18:10 (Pop-up)
Erick Gallun  Notre Dame Cathedral, Paris   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Paris. Field recording  0:18:21 (Pop-up)
John Kannenberg  Reading Room   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2003  July 2003, NYC. Field recording  0:18:33 (Pop-up)
Zak Rosen  Maya Birthday   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Field recording  0:18:44 (Pop-up)
John Hartog  Forest Oasis   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation    Oregon. Field recording  0:18:53 (Pop-up)
AL  Brighton Beach   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  May 2004, UK. Field recording  0:19:02 (Pop-up)
John Tenney  St. Stupid's Day Parade   Favoriting One-Minute Vacation  2004  April 2004, San Francisco. Field recording  0:19:13 (Pop-up)
Lullatone  Wake Up Wake Up   Favoriting Little Songs About Raindrops  2004    0:22:26 (Pop-up)
HyO  Approximacion 002   Favoriting       0:22:33 (Pop-up)
HyO  Approximacion 01   Favoriting Aproximacion #001      0:22:41 (Pop-up)
Lullatone  Bye Bye Bye   Favoriting       0:22:47 (Pop-up)
Chris Degiere  Momentous Achievements   Favoriting       0:22:52 (Pop-up)
Chris Degiere remixes Claudia Bonarelli  Spinal Technica Dub   Favoriting The Freest of Radicals Remixed  2003    0:23:04 (Pop-up)
n.kra remixes Chris Degiere  Sixpence-and-Change-Sir Radical   Favoriting The Freest of Radicals Remixed  2003    0:23:15 (Pop-up)
Ken  Identification   Favoriting   2005    0:23:16 (Pop-up)
Illusion of Safety  Graintext (Part Five)   Favoriting Graintext  2001    0:25:46 (Pop-up)
Chris Degiere  Base Chirp   Favoriting       0:28:09 (Pop-up)
I Am Robot and Proud  Count to Six (I Am Robot and Proud Remix)   Favoriting The Uberkids Remixes Part 1  2003    0:28:22 (Pop-up)
Phasmid  The Pedal Makes This One Sound Different   Favoriting The Uberkids Remixes Part 1  2003    0:28:43 (Pop-up)
.tape.  Making Waves   Favoriting       0:28:53 (Pop-up)
.tape.  Sea-Scaping Monthly   Favoriting Sea-Scaping Monthly in 4 or 5 Movements  2003    0:29:04 (Pop-up)
Nick Cramer  Ice   Favoriting     Sounds inexplicably like something used in Beatles Chaos Fugue (11/25/98)  0:29:47 (Pop-up)
Nick Cramer  A Glance   Favoriting Dimensional Rift  2003    0:30:00 (Pop-up)
Pacifica  Andy   Favoriting Warm Blankie  2003    0:30:12 (Pop-up)
Osso Bucco  Triad of Selvez   Favoriting       0:30:19 (Pop-up)
Tree Wave (Paul Slocum)  Instrumental 1b   Favoriting Cabana EP  2003    0:30:30 (Pop-up)
Text Adventure  A Little Explosion   Favoriting       0:30:37 (Pop-up)
D Minum  D'autre Part   Favoriting Sunny Day Companion      0:30:56 (Pop-up)
Ellende  Death   Favoriting Sine Fiction vol. X) Ti con zero      0:31:05 (Pop-up)
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  Swirled Freely   Favoriting Show #348 from Jan. 4, 2005  2005  Continues...  0:36:27 (Pop-up)
 
You Have Nowhere to Go (What's Wrong?)
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  You Have Nowhere to Go (What's Wrong?)   Favoriting Show #346 from Dec. 21, 2004  2004    0:57:37 (Pop-up)
Ken  Identification   Favoriting   2004    0:57:37 (Pop-up)
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  You Have Nowhere to Go (What's Wrong?)   Favoriting Show #346 from Dec. 21, 2004  2004    0:59:16 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage), Robert Duvall, Donald Pleasence, Don Pedro Colley, James Wheaton, Paul K. Haje, Dion M. Chesse, others (actors)  35 excerpts and loops from film, layered   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971  Sometimes a little adjustment can make all the difference  1:04:36 (Pop-up)
Johann Sebastian Bach  Bin Ich Gliech Von Dir Gewichen   Favoriting Matthew's Passion      1:20:12 (Pop-up)
Johann Sebastian Bach  Mir Hat Die Welt Tr Blich Gericht   Favoriting Matthew's Passion      1:20:22 (Pop-up)
Johann Sebastian Bach  Wie Wunderbarlich Ist Doch Diese Strafe   Favoriting Matthew's Passion      1:20:35 (Pop-up)
Donald Pleasance  Sometimes a little adjustment can make all the difference   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971    1:21:37 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage), Robert Duvall, Donald Pleasence, Don Pedro Colley, James Wheaton, Paul K. Haje, Dion M. Chesse, others (actors)  35 excerpts and loops from film, layered   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971  We must not continue to consume these erotics (the theatre of noise is proof of our potential)  1:22:47 (Pop-up)
Johann Sebastian Bach  Bin Ich Gliech Von Dir Gewichen   Favoriting Matthew's Passion    Maybe  1:26:25 (Pop-up)
Ken  Live then   Favoriting   2004    1:26:36 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage), Robert Duvall, Donald Pleasence, Don Pedro Colley, James Wheaton, Paul K. Haje, Dion M. Chesse, others (actors)  35 excerpts and loops from film, layered   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971    1:29:35 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage)  The accident over in red sector L destroyed another 63 personell. Do not abandon your post. There is no danger of radiation leakage.   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971    1:32:08 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage)  Everything will be all right. You are in my hands. I am here to protect you. You have nowhere to go. You have nowhere to go.   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971    1:34:03 (Pop-up)
Ken  Identification   Favoriting   2004    1:47:54 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage)  What's Wrong?   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971    1:48:59 (Pop-up)
George Lucas (director, writer), Walter Murch (writer, sound montage)  "Changeable" loop   Favoriting THX 1138 film  1971  Constructed from one scene  1:51:13 (Pop-up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:01pm fred:

Hi Kenzo. Again, it should be a short stay for me, but my judgment is poor, so who knows
Avatar 5:02pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Your judgment is unimpeachable, fred.
Avatar ♥ 5:04pm northguineahills:

moar glockenspiel! If I wasn't so busy, I'd record some more thunderstorm field recordings and send them. Forgot how the whole moving thing is a PITA.
Avatar 5:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Today's collages are very dreamy indeed.
Avatar 5:05pm Dzeli:

this is working for my storm belly
Avatar 5:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Dzeli belly
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:07pm Ike:

Punk-ass hippie robots are rusting loudly today! Get them out of my silicon onion farms right now!
Avatar 5:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'm sorry for your loss, Ike. I'm happy for your recovery, Dzeli. I'm glocken for your spiel, northguineahills. I'm admiring your frequent foot out the door, fred.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:10pm fred:

@Ike: At least pirates are not an issue on the stream
Avatar 5:11pm Dzeli:

Kenzo: I'm grateful for your gratings
Avatar 5:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Ima detailing this here playlist
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:20pm fred:

I like this! It's a much better confusion than the one I'm getting at work
Avatar 5:34pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I had a broken foot while making this show
Avatar 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I also had Robert's Rules of Order out from the library
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:37pm fred:

I hope you won't go too far in reliving the experience today
Avatar 5:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'm at my mercy
  5:39pm Bliss:

In the early-mid 70's, my stepdad had a little book called Robert's Rule of Law. At least that is the name I recall.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:40pm cklequ:

There's always so much happening here.........
Avatar 5:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Robert's Rules of Order is the most used and famous book on parliamentary procedure in the US, originating in the late 1800's.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:40pm cklequ:

Hay! I finally got my heart.
Avatar 5:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

cklequ: How do you feel about this muchness?
  5:41pm Bliss:

Yes, I am pretty sure that is the one. All these years I was thinking that it was Robert's Rule of Law.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:41pm cklequ:

I come here for the muchness.
Avatar 5:41pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Ja, hearts got kicked on a few days ago
  5:43pm Bliss:

I once thought we had had a St. Bernard, but it had been a beagle.
Avatar 5:43pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The beagle is the most famous and used dog for mistaken memories in the northeast region
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:45pm fred:

Most places are northeast of somewhere else. Though not all are suitable homes for beagles
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:48pm Rich in Washington:

I keep thinking this show is on at 3, my time. I am in a time zone all my own, apparently.
Avatar 5:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Rich, what timeshift can I do to make your listening more present-like?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:49pm fred:

@Rich: I think you're right
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:50pm Rich in Washington:

I wish I knew. I am working on being more present.
Avatar 5:52pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Wednesdays 2-4pm in Washington (with an occasional Tues. 8-10pm on the WTJU side)
Avatar 5:52pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

5 minutes to go before this dream changes color!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:56pm fred:

That's my cue to be smart and leave. Then again, that reminds me of Mulholland Drive
Avatar 5:57pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

fred, wait, see if you like this
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:57pm Rich in Washington:

This whole mix is great to edit video to.
Avatar 5:57pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

It's good for sleeping, just ask Rich!
Avatar 5:57pm Dzeli:

What color comes next?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 5:59pm Doug Schulkind:

Who is this Ken Zlastever I've been hearing so much about?
Avatar 6:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Ken Z'o Lastever
Avatar 6:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

This half is itself divided in halves. The second half in half an hour is a bit more challenging
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm Rich in Washington:

I love this movie so much. I love listening to it more than watching it.
Avatar 6:02pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yes. I haven't been able to go back and rewatch it, but I've heard this show at least a couple hundred times now.
Avatar 6:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

For those who haven't seen it, it's George Lucas's first film, from 1971, a very comprehensive dystopian film that uses almost no exposition, relying almost entirely on the brilliant sound montage work by co-writer Walter Murch. Most of what you come to understand about this "future" world comes from your listening.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:04pm Rich in Washington:

I love this show. The one back then and the one right now.
Avatar 6:05pm Dzeli:

Rather yellow
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:06pm Rich in Washington:

I think it's one of his best films. I think it's relatively austere - by today's standard's - budget made him make some really creative choices that add to the film's appeal.
Avatar 6:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thank you for color interpretation, Dzeli. What was the first hour?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:09pm Rich in Washington:

It's hard to find the original version of this film. Like his Star Wars films, Lucas went back and added lots of unnecessary special effects that didn't merge well with the film's original gritty, claustrophobic atmosphere.
Avatar 6:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi again, (ghost of) fred, northguineahills, Dzeli, Ike, Bliss, cklequ, Rich, Doug, the people texting and msging and emailing me, and the shy and future others.
Avatar 6:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The closest-to-original version can be found online by searching for the laserdisc version.
Avatar 6:11pm Dzeli:

Light blue. :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:11pm fred:

I haven't seen this movie.
I could go all Vizzini and say since you say I should stay I should leave, except it's too obvious.
My way is not that complicated: if I get sleepy and start yawning, I'm out instantly, because if I miss that boat I may not get another chance for hours
Avatar 6:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

It's a shame, the 2004 DVD version has clearer sound, and the sound is so important...but Lucas added numerous weird modern effects and changes and embellishments and didn't even label this as being a changed release.
Avatar 6:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Inconceivable!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:13pm Rich in Washington:

That THX-1138. He never backs off.
Avatar 6:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Make the correction THX
Avatar 6:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I wonder what Murch would think of this show. I loved his work in THX and Apoc Now and The Conversation, and Return to Oz is a favorite film of mine although there's not much sound magic there
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:17pm Rich in Washington:

I used to think Murch worked on Star Wars, due to the Lucas connection and similarity to some of the techniques heard in the film, which was actually Ben Burt, but I guess he didn't.
Avatar 6:18pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Murch didn't work on Star Wars, but some of the techniques he developed in THX 1138 got used there anyway. The walkie talkie sounds in Star Wars especially
Avatar 6:18pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Sometimes a little adjustment can make all the difference
Avatar 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I wish I could go back and remember how this felt while I was making it. It wasn't yet an hour-long show about THX-1138. It was just a thing I was doing, and I was halfway through the timeslot.
Avatar 6:25pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

My foot was broken for this one, too
Avatar 6:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Oh yeah, there was this recording studio downstairs from the radio station, and there was a loud band playing in there. It's in the boominess on the mic a bit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:28pm fred:

Was it the same foot?
Avatar 6:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yes, it took months to heal. It changed my life and that of many others dramatically.
Avatar 6:31pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Things turned a bit darker in my life after this show and before the one we heard in the first hour. So of course this is the darker show and the harder period one is lighter.
Avatar 6:31pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Dzeli, here's the next big color shift
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:33pm Rich in Washington:

It's also 20 degrees cooler since the program shift. How'd you do that, Kenzo?
Avatar 6:34pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

phase shift
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:35pm Rich in Washington:

I broke my foot at the end of 2016 but didn't know it until January of 2017. I was hobbling around for months.
Avatar 6:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I didn't get confirmation of my bone break for 3 months
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:38pm fred:

Do you plan to do new shows or do you need to break your foot again for that to happen?
Avatar 6:40pm Dzeli:

Mine is timing out every 5-10 minutes or so and I have to reload and miss a chunk...
Darkness in the light, light in the darkness...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:43pm fred:

@Dzeli: works for me right now, but I did had similar issues earlier today and yesterday
Avatar 6:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Dzeli, that's a shame. What exact means are you using to listen?
Avatar 6:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

fred: I'm forced to do a new show next week!
Avatar 6:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Live Tues. Aug 15th 11pm-1am Eastern Time on WTJU, and then here Wed. Aug 16th 5-7pm ET
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:45pm fred:

I hope no foot was harmed in the process
Avatar 6:45pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks everyone for listening to WFMU's Give the Drummer Radio Stream. In 15 minutes, you'll hear Bodega Pop Live with Gary Sullivan. This week: Super Japan 2: An alphabetical tour of extreme examples of genres (enka, onkyokei), states of being (high, wounded), and more from everybody’s favorite stratovolcanic archipelago. Part 2 of 5
Avatar 6:46pm Dzeli:

Firefox on an android phone. "What's wrong" is driving me batty
Avatar 6:47pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

"Never mind"
Avatar 6:47pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Dzeli, exactly what listen link are you using?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:48pm Gary:

What *isn't* wrong?
Avatar 6:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Gary, I'm finishing 4 minutes early again!
Avatar ♥ 6:50pm northguineahills:

Finishing tidying up my finances. Only one more call to make.
Avatar 6:51pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks everyone for listening and talking or not talking today. This show is here every Wednesday until it's not. Sometimes live, sometimes recently live, sometimes long ago live. Your live lifeness is very important here. Check schedule and back catalog at lastever.org
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:51pm Gary:

Okay, I'll cue somethin' up!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:51pm fred:

@Gary: Certainly not that I can't listen to your show. Not sleepy, but I gotta work tomorrow. If I start listening to your show, I'm in trouble
Avatar 6:52pm Dzeli:

Pop-up link on wfmu.org...
Avatar 6:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Dzeli, thanks! Next time I'll see if you can try another way.
Avatar 6:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Good night, everyone. This happy terror finishes in 1.5 minutes and then we'll sit here in silence or wish we could but it all just goes on and on and on and I'll see you next week with something very very very very new
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:55pm Gary:

If you're not radioed out yet, you can hear 3 hours of Japanese music starting in a moment, here: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:57pm Gary:

Ha ha, no worries, Fred!
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