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Favoriting October 3, 2017: tiny stones and dry leaves

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Vincent Duseigne  Bruyères school / Avenue des Arts 49, 1348 Ottignies-Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium   Favoriting radio aporee    2017  On june 24, my wife decided to leave me, after 17 years of common life, traveling, exploring, recording everywhere. It arrived during a long evening spent in a school ( sound https://aporee.org/maps/?loc=36999 ). We are exactly three month after. I still understood nothing, but henceforth no matter. In my new home, this is the common sound I can hear near everyday, also a school with young children. The name is heather school, in fact its the name of the district of the Louvain-La-Neuve city. It was a symbolic act to record the first day in it, new home, new life, new hopes. Regularly, you can hear my great friend the Common Starling. Nothing special about this sound, except it was my first hour in it. A new beginning. 
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Ting Shuo Hear Say  南門 Nanmen 2017.08, 16:20-19:15   Favoriting 躡步台南 Gentle Steps Tainan    2017   
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Thore Siebrands  Level crossing / Eckernförder Str. 339, 24107 Kiel, Deutschland   Favoriting radio aporee    2017  Level crossing at night with a crossing train: warning bells and lowering gates, train passes by, gates open, sporadic traffic on the street, flag poles clattering in the wind, some collected rain drops falling on the leaves of a tree. Binaural recording, Zoom F4 recorder, Soundman OKM II Klassik microphone 
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Wu,Tsan-Cheng  In the woods / Zhunan Township, Miaoli County   Favoriting     2017  Seaside bike lane,wind,Wind Turbines, Binaural recordings ,Best with Headphone, Proposal to turn up the volume , Sony PCM D100+ Soundman OKM II ( SoundMap20170830-10) , recorded by Wu,Tsan-Cheng 吳燦政 
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OR poiesis  tiny stones and dry leaves falling down the metal hole / a hole in the midle of a muddy road, towards Lom Bilina, Czechia   Favoriting     2017   
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Richard Horowitz  Elephant Dance   Favoriting Eros In Arabia  Freedom To Spend  2017/1981   
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Coil  Baby Food   Favoriting   Sub Rosa  2017/1993   
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Caterina Barbieri  Information Needed To Create An Entire Body   Favoriting Patterns Of Consciousness  Important Records  2017   
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Peder Mannerfelt  Breaking Pattern   Favoriting Equality Now  Numbers.  2016   
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Klein  Farewell Sorry   Favoriting Tommy EP  Hyperdub  2017   
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Ninos Du Brasil  O Som De Ossos   Favoriting Vida Eterna  Hospital Productions  2017   
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Leskin  Vasistas   Favoriting Rawer South Side Ep  Unrelated Records  2014   
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Breaker 1 2  DMT   Favoriting Breakin'  Forbidden Planet  2013   
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Coucou Chloé  Erika Jane   Favoriting Erika Jane EP  Nuxxe   2017   
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Trax-X  Inter-X   Favoriting Proton 99 EP  Re-load Records  1995   
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Datasmok  Untitled   Favoriting 01  Panzerkreuz Records  2014   
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Frak  Ufo's Welcome   Favoriting Hard Friends  Börft Records  1994   
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City  Pain Power   Favoriting A Goal is an Image  Halcyon Veil  2017   
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Still  Bubbling Ambessa (Afrikan Messiah Riddim)   Favoriting I  Pan  2017   
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7FO  Quiet Flash   Favoriting   Bokeh Versions  2017   
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Tomasa del Real  Prendelo (feat. Ceaese)   Favoriting Bien Y Mal  recordJet  2016   
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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:03pm
coelacanth∅:

Hi Neighbor! you sure are noisy!
Avatar 7:04pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Howdy coelacanthø it can't be helped, it's in my name!
Avatar 7:06pm
northguineahills:

I'm going to have to leave work soon, so, I'll only get the beginning of the field recording portion.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
gloomsday:

hello hello! :) these are some delightfully opinionated birds we're listening to today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:07pm
coelacanth∅:

oh i like when my neighbors are noisy, so they can't justify complaining about me!
Avatar 7:09pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

no complaints here, noise it up!
Hi @northguineahills! I recommend leaving work now but that's just me.
Hi @gloomsday, the birds are actually very accommodating once you get to know them..
Avatar 7:15pm
geezerette:

My cat would have loved this. She'd be searching for the birds and circling back to me for an answer.
Avatar 7:18pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

hey geezerette! There are a wealth of youtube videos for cats, long set shots of birds and fishtanks that I sometimes project for my cats. They are always confused.
Avatar 7:20pm
northguineahills:

Ok, 10+ hours is long enough (and I've been the only one at the office all day), I'm off for a drink, since I can afford that again. I'll hit you at the end of your show.
Avatar 7:21pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

sounds great, well earned. Welcome back to the working world!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:22pm
coelacanth∅:

i wish my neighborhood sounded something like this. where i moved from a year ago sort of did. better, in my opinion. a variety of birds, including a variety of owls; insects; very active squirrels; deer (& other, non-noisy animals); an occasionally howling dog not far away and other dogs a little farther; geese, seasonally; and a rail trail at the bottom of the hill that was the house's back/my front yard - so occasional interesting loud walkers, and a daily group of waldorf school children walking once in each direction.
'never heard a neighbor's tv or anyone's rap or other crappy music, except the rare drive by at the student housing nearby. (which also contributed some interesting noise sometimes, and some partying - but rarely enough that the sound was welcome)
- now it's just the gas station/convenience store next door, and a busy street pretty close by.

...this too shall pass.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
coelacanth∅:

jeez, sorry! i didn't realise i went on so long!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
melinda:

hi peeps
Avatar 7:24pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Hi melinda!
@coelacanthø, I just played a 20 minute track of birds and kids playing so not really anyone to talk about going on too long...
Avatar 7:30pm
geezerette:

Hello Coel, Melinda, NGH !
I'm loitering, back to work now!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm
coelacanth∅:

heh, thanks Jesse! i think i was lost in reminiscence. makes me sad; i really liked that crappy little attic apartment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:32pm
coelacanth∅:

hey g!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:33pm
melinda:

It's sad when you have to leave a place you like. I once had an old attic apartment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
coelacanth∅:

yeah the landlord thought he could renovate it and get a lot more money for it. i actually would've paid 100 bucks more/month if he really did fix it up; but i know he didn't...and he's probably sorry that he lost me, because now that apartment will join the other 6 in the house that are constantly changing occupants, with long periods of vacancy in-between.
Avatar 7:51pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

images are of sculptures from the 2000's by El Anatsui: el-anatsui.com
Avatar 7:57pm
still b/p:

I'm right about at the 20th anniversary of my arrival in this apartment. Freaky long compared to residency tales and histories of most people I know.

The Wu environment sounds like being aboard ship.
Avatar 7:58pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

I think it's a wind farm but I've never been up close to one to find out
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:03pm
coelacanth∅:

i've driven by vast fields of wind turbines, but silly me didn't own a good recorder at the times.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
coelacanth∅:

i'd like to know more about this metal hole in the middle of a muddy road.
Avatar 8:06pm
still b/p:

Send a metal rabbit down the hole.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:09pm
coelacanth∅:

that's so metal, man!
(and don't do that without your recorder ready)
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Jesse Kaminsky:

Hey still b/p!
@coelacanthø, unfortunately no other info on that metal hole :/
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
melinda:

This is nice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:15pm
coelacanth∅:

so it's bottle caps. i wonder if he drank all those beers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:20pm
coelacanth∅:

...and other discarded materials. i like resourcing trash to art; very respectable. and his art is interesting.
Avatar 8:21pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Art 21 did a short video in his studio in Nigeria, worth a watch: www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:33pm
coelacanth∅:

i'll have to wait until i'm on a different computer that doesn't freeze with youboob.
...his site says he's from ghana, which is where i bought my bougarabou from. that got me wondering what that craftman was up to. i'm not finding him though. it'd be a shame if he's not making drums any more.
Avatar 8:35pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

He was born in Ghana but spent most of his life in Nigeria as far as I know.
Avatar 8:39pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

do you play the bougarabou coelacanthø?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:42pm
coelacanth∅:

right, it says he works and lives "between" ghana and nigeria. 'can't find info on what materials he's using though - besides bottle caps.
Avatar 8:43pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

got a pic coming up next that might illuminate. It's mostly discarded wine foil caps and other (mostly alcoholic) drink caps and wrappers. Usually held together with copper wire I think.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:47pm
coelacanth∅:

-yeah i play drums. i play anything that i can and have an odd collection of instruments, but can't say i play them well! -certainly not conventionally.
-and i'm pretty sloppy on the drum kit; but not too bad with hand drums.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:50pm
coelacanth∅:

wow that's awesome! he actually wires each one together!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:51pm
melinda:

Cool. The close-up photo helps illuminate what's going on there.
Avatar 8:52pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

well, he and his crew of assistants. I showed this to a class once and they all got so mad that he used assistants, imagining that he must have spent every waking hour on this or it wasn't legit
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:55pm
coelacanth∅:

i understand that; but then if he didn't have assistants the world simply would not have much of his art.
Avatar 8:55pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

yeah, their argument was also that he should credit them, which I can see as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:56pm
coelacanth∅:

i'd have to agree with that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:57pm
coelacanth∅:

what'd they think of Andy Warhol, and his assembly line art?
Avatar 8:58pm
still b/p:

Make students do research on assistants in the studio through the ages. MAKE 'EM. Though I've seen phenomenally intricate and elaborate work apparently done by solo artists.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01pm
melinda:

It is weird that assistants don't receive credit. I remember being disillusioned when I learned that a lot of art pieces aren't solo creations.
Avatar 9:03pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

I always thought a lecture series by the people that run the shop for successful artists would be super informative
Avatar 9:03pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

It is weird, just industry standard. Like what if movies just listed the director in the credits and that's it..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04pm
coelacanth∅:

me too melinda. especially Warhol's multiple images of Marilyn or whatever - which are just mechanically duplicated images with a different color applied to each one. it wouldn't even take that long to do it himself.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06pm
coelacanth∅:

right, Jesse...but then it's bothered me since i was a wee tyke that the string and horn sections of pop/rock records never listed every musician - just the arranger.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08pm
coelacanth∅:

(we do see it sometimes now, though)
Avatar 9:11pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Here's a secret: during the second set I ordered Pho. It just arrived.
Avatar 9:13pm
still b/p:

Art from centuries past is sometimes credited to "Studio of (famous name)," and attributions can get changed or blurred -- thought to be the master, then reassessed as created/executed by someone under his wing.

On the music side, I sometimes think about all the anonymous voices who sang in choruses and back-up teams for popular music through the decades of the 20th century. Beyond immediate credit question, strange that there must be so damn many of them, but I never heard someone show up elsewhere saying, 'Yes, I did a bunch of Percy Faith recordings," or Nat Cole or Andy Williams back-ups or something.
Avatar 9:18pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

@coelacanthø, I suppose if you open a Deutche Grammophon record it probably doesn't list all the personnel, right? It's been a while since I cracked one
Avatar 9:19pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

I don't think we (as humans) were always so caught up in the idea of the solo genius
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22pm
melinda:

Jesse exactly. A director gets more recognition than other people working on a film, but everyone has a title and gets credit. I've often thought that artists who work on a scale that requires multiple helpers as directors, of a sort.
Avatar 9:25pm
northguineahills:

'Ardcore!
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northguineahills:

'Ardcore!
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northguineahills:

ok, more glitchery in the comments board...
Avatar 9:28pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

@melinda, totally but I can't imagine the art culture changing that much to give production credits.
welcome back northguineahills, how was your drink?
Avatar 9:29pm
northguineahills:

refreshing! (got a lot of reading done)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:29pm
coelacanth∅:

what's "pho" - an asian dish, right?
Avatar 9:32pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

yeah Vietnamese rice noodle soup :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32pm
melinda:

I don't see it changing either. But it's interesting also for the reason that doing your own work and having other people execute your vision are different projects requiring different skills (with some overlapping of course), one isn't necessarily superior to the other, yet these roles are both lumped together under the artist label.
Avatar 9:33pm
northguineahills:

I really dig the visual artist you chose for this week. As per usual, new to me!
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northguineahills:

Heck, when it comes to music, I believe the designers who built the instruments, the machinists who pressed them w/ machines, should alsi be credited as collaborators.
Avatar 9:36pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

@northguineahills, his website: el-anatsui.com
and a cool Art 21 video in his studio, lots of process shots and stuff: www.youtube.com...
Avatar 9:36pm
still b/p:

Can only imagine the extra effort and relationship zones required for some artists, i.e., for casting sculptures you gotta find foundry individuals who get you and are good 'n reliable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38pm
coelacanth∅:

ngh i like that idea; and i think occasionally, within the incorrectly named genre "experimantal music", that actually happens.
Avatar 9:38pm
still b/p:

Did the zebras get credit for this track?
Avatar 9:39pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Besides which, I think it's just much less interesting to think about artists as mythical solitary figures than as real humans who have to talk to and work with other people to execute often fluid processes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44pm
coelacanth∅:

Stravinsky wasn't expected to play every instrument in his compositions, nor was Frank Zappa. i, myself might be creating some good music if i had other people with playing talent at my disposal. i certainly would take advantage of that; but i'd definitely give each and every player credit - including credit for arranging their parts, if they did so.
Avatar 9:45pm
northguineahills:

@Jesse: I already shared the site.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46pm
coelacanth∅:

as for visual art - it's hard to imagine...but i guess if i made art like this (<) i might.
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northguineahills:

Crap, time to go back to cleaning/unpacking. If I don't get back, thanks Jesse!
Avatar 9:47pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

np northguineahills, have a good unpacking!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:48pm
melinda:

I do little drawings and I'm introverted, so it's hard for me to imagine conceiving only of projects that require others in order to take form.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50pm
coelacanth∅:

tchau ngh

...i wonder if El Anatsui's art would be different if he did it all himself. i think so. i think if it were all him there'd be more deliberate patterns within the bigger swatches of specific materials.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53pm
coelacanth∅:

same for myself, melinda. my drawing is my drawing. i'm positive that if i commissioned someone else - no matter who, and no matter how detailed the instructions, that it would not end up exactly as if i had done it.
Avatar 9:54pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

Hard to know, his website has lot of earlier work that looks smaller in scale and could have bene solo, very different than the tapestries that he became famous for. There could be ways to take into account the uncertainty of other people building things and allow that to be the process.
Avatar 9:55pm
Jesse Kaminsky:

but I suspect you're right, totally different process
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Jesse Kaminsky:

maybe
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Jesse Kaminsky:

lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55pm
coelacanth∅:

haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00pm
coelacanth∅:

Thanks Jesse! have a good week Jesse, melinda, stillb/p...
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still b/p:

Grazie, Jezze.
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still b/p:

..and cfish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01pm
melinda:

ta!
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