WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from August 26, 2018

Listener comments!
	9:00am Scraps: h’lo hey hm
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Scraaaaaaaaps! Hello.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am listener james from westwood: Mornin', Jeff, Scraps, all!
	9:04am Scraps: Jeffffffff! h’lo
	♥ 9:05am Jeff Golick: Gooooood morning, @listener james!
	9:05am Scraps: h’lo l.james f.westwood!
	9:08am Uncle Michael: good morning Jeff, and listeners.
	♥ 9:12am Jeff Golick: Early good morning to you, @Uncle Michael!
	♥ 9:14am Stanley: Parp!
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: @Stanley! Parp walk better'n a perp walk.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am Andrew Waterloo: this week the swag pile arrived! God save the swag pile.,
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Andrew Waterloo! Happy swag day to you!
	🦀 ♥ 9:26am Uncle Michael: Music to bake pie by. Mammy's little baby love's Shorter, Shorter...
	♥ 9:27am Jeff Golick: Ha. I love pie. What kind of pie you got going, @UM?
	🦀 ♥ 9:29am Uncle Michael: Ginger peach.
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Mmmm.
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: Andrew Cyrille played on my show back in (gulp) ‘93. At one point I asked him off-mic what the correct pronunciation of “Grachan” was. He told me, but the. I ended of forgetting what he said. Good morning!
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: the. = then
	9:46am JtotheK: Ahoy Jeff! Aloha, everyone!!!
	♥ 9:48am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug. Hello, @Doug! Ahoy hoy, @JtotheK!
	🦀 ♥ 9:49am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, & hello, the OUT Crowd, jazzophiles, razzle dazzle jazzophiles, the genetically predisposed to jazz, those few who know how to pronounce "Grachan", and all
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: @Sem! Welcome.
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: Here's the Ethan Iverson piece on Wayne that prompted this set: www.newyorker.com...
	9:52am Doug Schulkind: I once heard a DJ on WKCR pronounce it “gracken.” Poor soul must’ve been flayed alive by Phil Schapp.
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: Well, he wanted to release the gracken.
	🦀 ♥ 9:54am Sem: :-)
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: There's a wonderful interview with Wayne in Amiri Baraka's book, Black Music. Both men came up in Newark, NJ.
	9:59am Dean: Fortunately, WS's name is much easier: WINE-uh shohr-TAY
	9:59am Doug Schulkind: Gotta go stack the Triscuits, but I’ll be longing for Shorter.
	♥ 10:01am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Dean. Thanks for that. @Doug! See ya! Thanks for stopping by. Wish you could stay longer for Shorter.
	10:07am Dean: Mysterious Traveler is the Weather Report point of entry.
	♥ 10:14am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Dean!
	10:15am Dean: IMHO, it should go without saying.
	🦀 ♥ 10:17am doctorjazz: Hi all...late arrival, missed the Shorter set (looks great, will have to catch it in the archives....glad to be catching this set).
	♥ 10:18am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @doctorjazz!
	♥ 10:18am Jeff Golick: (@Dean: what should go w/o saying...? The Weather Report album?)
	10:20am Dean: That it's only my humble opinion. Yeah, I guess I heaped ambiguity upon ambiguity there.
	♥ 10:22am Jeff Golick: Oh, I get it now. Yes. (I had the accent on the wrong phrase.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:28am doctorjazz: Liked the New Yorker article. Iverson's musician analysis of Shorter's 3 1964 albums, which are his favorites (love them as well but didn't catch the musical influences he brought to each one) Saw the most recent band at NJ PAC, quite abstract, sort of stretched the Miles band of the late 60's concept to the limit without breaking it Made the mistake of bringing my wife... It was too "out" for her. She read a book the whole show (at least she came prepared...)
	♥ 10:32am Jeff Golick: Ha. Well. Yeah, Wayne showing no signs of mellowing.
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: This little ditty would've fit in well with Mayuko's exploration of Orientalism a few weeks back.
	10:36am Dean: My street had a block party yesterday. Perfect weather. A neighbor is a professional musician/engineer, who pulled together a quartet to serenade us with standards. He's a remarkable bass player. I mentioned to him d: O's ongoing tributes to living giants, such as Shorter, Sanders. This met with approval.
	♥ 10:38am Jeff Golick: Sweet, @Dean. I'm all ears, btw, about who else to feature, if you have suggestions.
	🦀 ♥ 10:39am doctorjazz: Would have liked to get to the Charlie Parker fest today, but my daughter heads back to college today, have to help her get into her share house .Oh well ..
	10:41am Scraps: I would nominate Carla Bley, Jeff.
	10:41am Scraps: (Who I would name as the best living jazz composer....)
	♥ 10:42am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Scraps. Good one. Re Sharrock, via wiki: "He wanted to play tenor saxophone from his youth after hearing John Coltrane on Davis's Kind of Blue on the radio at age 19, but his asthma prevented this. Sharrock said repeatedly, however, that he still considered himself 'a horn player with a really fucked up axe.'"
	10:42am Dean: Bley is a great suggestion. Pat Martino? He's not up there with Coltrane, Shorter, or Sanders, but Houston Person?
	♥ 10:44am Jeff Golick: Houston Person would require some serious work on my part, @Dean. Wow.
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: I've been thinking about Wadada Leo Smith.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am doctorjazz: Great suggestions... How about my man, Abdullah Ibrahim?
	10:46am glenn: fwiw, paul haines, who collaborated with carla bley on escalator over the hill, is the father of emily haines from metric. in case you didn't know, which you probably did, you clever little fuckers.
	10:47am Scraps: I didn’t know!
	10:47am Dean: Well, of course, Smith. I'm familiar with a tiny fraction of Person's catalog, but I bet you could do worse than start with his stuff with Charles Earland.
	♥ 10:47am Jeff Golick: @glenn! I did not know that.
	10:47am rw: Good morning!
	🦀 ♥ 10:48am doctorjazz: Henry Threadgill and David Murray aren't as old as Shorter, but they're in Senior Citizen territory...
	♥ 10:49am Jeff Golick: Hello and welcome, @rw!
	10:49am Scraps: (And, of course, you know that I can’t have a discussion of living jazz composers go by without mentioning Threadgill....)
	10:49am Scraps: Ha, doctorjazz!
	10:50am Dean: I remember reading the review of Escalator Over the Hill in the Rolling Stone comp from 1974. (My copy is a brittle yellow.) Robert "Bob" Palmer wrote the review. What struck me at the time, since I had no idea who Carla Bley was, was the appearance of Ronstadt. What strikes me now is that the record was then available new for $12.
	10:51am Scraps: Threadgill is 74. He’s getting up there.
	♥ 10:52am Jeff Golick: Ibrahim, Threadgill, Murray...that's a real murderer's row. @Dean: I got that same RS Yellow guide. (Also Blue and Red, too.)
	10:52am Dean: Not jazz, but Big Jay McNeely.
	10:53am Dean: Mine's blue to purple, no red. It's volume II. Never got my hands on v.I.
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am doctorjazz: Ask the Ages... One of my favorite albums!
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: One of my favorite (and at the time, reassuring) things about the Blue RS guide was how much it didn't care for The Doors. (Don't @ me.)
	10:59am Scraps: Joe McPhee, almost 80
	♥ 11:00am Jeff Golick: Ooooh yeah, McPhee, yes yes. (Going to his home town tomorrow!)
	11:00am Dean: McNeely is 91! Well, Richard Meltzer wrote the review of L.A. Woman. He was (perhaps still is) a huge Doors fan, and he loved the album. Ben Gerson reviewed Other Voices a bit more equivocally. I hung out with Meltzer a bit in the '90s, and I confess I never quite got his admiration for The Doors. But he was exactly right in his veneration of The Germs.
	11:01am Dean: McPhee, for sure.
	11:02am glenn: listen, if x liked the doors enough to have ray manzarek produce their first two records, who am i to quibble?
	11:03am Scraps: I could like the Doors if they were an instrumental band.
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: What a lovely "Going Home"...
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am doctorjazz: Man.....
	11:14am melinda: Hi all
	11:16am rw: I'm far from being an authority but when I hear the words jazz and composer together I think of Anthony Braxton.
	♥ 11:16am Jeff Golick: Great to see you, @melinda!
	♥ 11:17am Jeff Golick: @rw: He's up there, for sure.
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am doctorjazz: Like "Regret", have to look for it..
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am doctorjazz: And this Costa too,starting to add up...
	♥ 11:21am Jeff Golick: tomabbs.bandcamp.com...
	11:21am Dean: Mark Whitecage is worth some quality time and attention. Joseph Scianni. Thinking of CIMP-based folks...
	11:22am Dean: Gianluigi Trovesi
	♥ 11:22am Jeff Golick: Whitecage, yeah. Dennis Gonzalez is another one.
	11:23am Dean: Yes. Bobby Bradford.
	11:23am Dean: These guys aren't that old, but they're not getting any younger.
	11:24am rw: And Wadada Leo Smith... I went to see him at the Jazz Bakery in the '90s based solely on the description in the flyer. We got lost on the way and almost gave up. He had several players on him with varied instrumentation (I think someone was playing a sitar). It was great of course. After the show I said to my friend, "It's a good thing we decided not to bail or there would have been more people on stage than in the audience." He said, "Yeah I was thinking the same thing!"
	♥ 11:24am Jeff Golick: Oooh, yeah.
	11:25am Scraps: Han Bennink
	11:26am Dean: @rw: The old Jazz Bakery at the Helms building, yes? That was a fun venue. Heard Steve Lacy there, Max Roach, Alan Broadbent with Mark Murphy. Haven't made it to the new site.
	♥ 11:27am Jeff Golick: Ooof, Bennink opens a door to Europeans we haven't even touched yet.
	11:29am Scraps: Yep! I figured Bennink is European #1. ;-)
	♥ 11:29am Jeff Golick: @rw: did I forget to greet you? If so: greetings!
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am doctorjazz: Trovesi would be great... Bennink leads to Breuker, who is no longer with us but has great recordings .
	11:29am rw: Dean, yes. We saw WLS in a more theater like room at the Helms building. I think it was new at the time. Before it had been in a photography studio in the Helms bldg. Is there a newer site since then?
	11:30am rw: JG. Yes. Twice now. Thanks!
	11:30am Scraps: Yeah. Mengelberg died last year, too
	11:30am Dean: Yep, it's now on Hollywood Blvd. I think they won a grant of some sort a few years ago, so they moved to new, plush digs.
	11:32am Dean: Bennink plays in a group on Driff Records with Jorrit Dijkstra and Pandelils Karayorgis. They cover Lacy tunes. They're a hoot. I recently pinged Karayorgis and bought the entire Driff catalog at a discount.
	11:32am rw: Dean, I guess I should look them up. I'm trying to get out to more shows. Jazz Bakery got a little too jazz for my taste for a while there.
	11:34am Scraps: Oh, jeez: Dave Holland
	11:34am Dean: In LA I liked Jazz Bakery, the old Catalina Bar & Grill, and a weird space in a shopping mall in Pasadena where a community theater group would stage Shakespeare, but from time to time locals (the Clines, Vinny Golia, etc.) would play.
	11:38am Dean: Speaking of the Clines, look who played Jazz Bakery in January: https://jazzbakery.org/events/twins-alex-nels-cline-50-years-making-music-together The roster these days otherwise looks way more mainstream than it used to be.
	11:38am rw: Speaking of shows and jazz, there's a question I've been wanting to ask here. I went with a buddy to see P. Brotzmann and K. Heino a few weeks back. Afterward I made a reference to it being jazz and my friend got confused because he didn't think of it as jazz at all. What do you guys think? Jazz, right?
	🦀 ♥ 11:38am Uncle Michael: You're nailin' it today, Jeff.
	11:40am Dean: Hmmm, not exactly at the Jazz Bakery, I guess. A different venue. Re: Brotzmann & Heino, I suppose in a Venn diagram kinda way there's an area of jazz to which you could refer.
	11:41am Scraps: rw: jazz, yes. Jazz is a big tent. Lots of people shake their heads about free jazz being jazz. But it’s jazz players who play it....
	♥ 11:43am Jeff Golick: Oh thanks, @UM!
	♥ 11:45am Jeff Golick: Jazz shmazz. Genre's a sucker's game.
	11:47am Scraps: All jazz, rock, hiphop, and classical have been getting bigger and wider, until people say they are going to pop, or have popped long ago
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: I enjoyed this Darryl Pinckney piece on Aretha at the NYRB: www.nybooks.com...
	11:48am rw: Aretha! Never too much. And Jeff, that's probably the best answer. We ran into a few people the following week who had been to the show and their answers seemed to depend on whether they had gone to see Brotzmann with Haino or Haino with Brotzmann.
	11:49am Dean: Brinsley Schwarz did "Niki Hoekey," albeit with less, uh, soul than Aretha.
	11:50am rw: Bnd wait... Jeff, weren't you just asking about the greatest living jazz composer??
	♥ 11:50am Jeff Golick: Northern Soul, let's say.
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: @rw: Sorta. That was the headline of this NYer piece on Wayne Shorter: www.newyorker.com...
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am doctorjazz: At first I thought I had enough Aretha, hearing her on NPR and such. But as the FMU tributes continued, I realized , No Such Thing as too much...
	11:53am rw: Ah! JG, I had missed that. You're clear.
	♥ 11:53am Jeff Golick: One thing I've realized is that when I sing ("sing") along with Aretha, what I'm really doing is singing along with the backup singers. That's all I can really bring myself to do. And it's more than enough.
	11:54am Doug Schulkind: Bring it home, Jeff G!!
	11:55am rw: Also, sorry, I'm still waking up but Jeff, did you say you had a son or daughter entering college this week? That's very exciting. It's going to be a great experience for everyone.
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am doctorjazz: Yup, that's Ethan Iverson's thesis, and he basically says if Shorter had just done the 3 1964 albums, that would already cement his place as greatest living composer. Cool article.
	♥ 11:56am Jeff Golick: @rw: It's true. Driving kid to college first thing tomorrow morning!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am doctorjazz: (nice, not much heard Aretha...)
	♥ 11:56am Jeff Golick: I wonder how an artist would feel on hearing the words, "Aretha is doing your song."
	11:57am Dean: Nice way to wrap up this morning's program.
	♥ 11:57am Stanley: This Aretha Franklin tribute set is as good, or better, than others on FMU, so far. Anyone know whether the biopic that was made is finally getting a release?
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am doctorjazz: Could be intimidating I'd think
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: Way to show up, @Stanley. Holy cow.
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff, good week all! (see if I can get myself out to bike Watchung now...). Been fun!
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: Still waiting for the Amazing Grace movie...
	12:00pm rw: Thanks Jeff! Have a good drive tomorrow! Been nice hanging out and listening to music this morning. Have a great Sunday everyone!
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, and take care, @doc and @rw!
	♥ 12:00pm Stanley: Been here for the duration, Jeff. Thanks, again for a most enjoyable show (Amazing Grace - that's the one
	12:01pm Doug Schulkind: I’m driving kid to college on Tuesday. Apparently it’s contagious.
	12:01pm rw: d.jazz, I'm headed out for my bike ride too! Want to race?
	12:02pm rw: I mean race to see who can get the bike out first. Not actually race bikes. That would be crazy.
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: Helmets, please, everyone.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm doctorjazz: Doing the drive this afternoon .. TCNJ here we come (made it to 3rd year)!
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: @Doug: that was the consensus at Ikea yesterday. Oy.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm doctorjazz: Rw, you're on!
	5:15pm Listener Gregory: Very nice show, Jeff. For what it's worth, your Aretha Franklin tribute didn't overlap with any of the others I've heard and was very welcome.

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August 26, 2018: You keep me hangin' on

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:35 (Pop-up)
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers	Sleeping Dancer Sleep On	Like Someone in Love	Blue Note	1960/1967	HBD, Wayne Shorter! (b. 25 Aug.)	0:07:34 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	E.S.P. "E.S.P." by "Miles Davis"	E.S.P.	Columbia	1965		0:15:06 (Pop-up)
Wayne Shorter	Capricorn "Capricorn" by "Wayne Shorter"	Super Nova	Blue Note	1969		0:20:29 (Pop-up)
David Murray \| Geri Allen \| Terri Lynne Carrington	Samsara (For Wayne)	Perfection	Motéma	2016		0:28:13 (Pop-up)
Kirk Lightsey & Harold Danko	Lester Left Town	Shorter By Two	Sunnyside	1983		0:33:51 (Pop-up)
Grachan Moncur III	Nomadic "Nomadic" by "Grachan Moncur III"	Some Other Stuff	Blue Note	1964		0:36:51 (Pop-up)
Wayne Shorter	Calm "Calm" by "Wayne Shorter"	Odyssey of Iska	Blue Note	1971		0:44:37 (Pop-up)
Wayne Shorter	Infant Eyes "Infant Eyes" by "Wayne Shorter"	Speak No Evil	Blue Note	1964		0:47:56 (Pop-up)
Wayne Shorter Quartet	Zero Gravity to the 10th Power	Without a Net	Blue Note	2013		0:54:49 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sugarman 3	Baby I Love You "Baby I Love You" by "Sugarman 3"					1:02:49 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	Turiya & Ramakrishna	Ptah, The El Daoud	Impulse! / ABC Records	1970	HBD, Alice (b. 27 Aug.)	1:10:59 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	The Ankh of Amen-Ra	Universal Consciousness	Impulse! / ABC Records	1971		1:18:53 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	Journey In Satchidananda	Journey In Satchidananda	Impulse! / ABC Records	1971		1:24:27 (Pop-up)
Pharoah Sanders	Japan "Japan" by "Pharoah Sanders"	Tauhid	Impulse!	1967		1:29:58 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Blind Willie "Blind Willie" by "Sonny Sharrock"	Guitar	Enemy Records	1986	HBD, Sonny (b. 27 Aug.)	1:33:23 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Soon "Soon" by "Sonny Sharrock"	Monkey - Pockie - Boo	BYG/Actuel	1970		1:38:03 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Fear of a Ghost Planet	Space Ghost: Coast to Coast	Cartoon Network	1994		1:45:34 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Many Mansions "Many Mansions" by "Sonny Sharrock"	Ask the Ages	Axiom	1991		1:47:40 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	Going Home "Going Home" by "Alice Coltrane"	Lord of Lords	Impulse! / ABC Records	1972		1:56:57 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & the MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & the MGs"					2:06:49 (Pop-up)
Tom Abbs & Frequency Response	Regret	Hawthorne	Engine Studios	2018		2:12:18 (Pop-up)
Mário Costa	Aluminum Foil "Aluminum Foil" by "Mário Costa"	Oxy Patina	Clean Feed	2018		2:15:37 (Pop-up)
Catherine Sikora & Brian Chase	so. the	untitled: after	Chaikin Records	2018		2:18:31 (Pop-up)
Lynn Cassiers	Water Fall "Water Fall" by "Lynn Cassiers"	Imaginary Band	Clean Feed	2018		2:22:25 (Pop-up)
Binker and Moses	How Fire Was Made	Alive in the East?	Gearbox	2018		2:26:50 (Pop-up)
Stephanie Richards	Solana "Solana" by "Stephanie Richards"	Trio Music	pfMENTUM	2018		2:31:13 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					2:35:22 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	(Sweet Sweet Baby) Since You've Been Gone	Lady Soul	Atlantic	1968		2:40:03 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	Baby, I Love You "Baby, I Love You" by "Aretha Franklin"	Aretha Arrives	Atlantic	1967		2:42:14 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	Niki Hoeky "Niki Hoeky" by "Aretha Franklin"	Lady Soul	Atlantic	1968		2:44:37 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	Ain't Nobody (Gonna Turn Me Around)	Aretha Arrives	Atlantic	1967		2:47:02 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	Tracks of My Tears	Soul '69	Atlantic	1969		2:49:35 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	You Keep Me Hangin' On	Rare & Unreleased Recordings from the Golden Reign of the Queen of Soul	Rhino/Atlantic	1969/2007	This Girl's in Love with You/Spirit in the Dark outtake	2:52:20 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	That's The Way I Feel About 'Cha (alternate)	Rare & Unreleased Recordings from the Golden Reign of the Queen of Soul	Rhino/Atlantic	1972/2007	Hey Now Hey (The Other Side Of The Sky outtake	2:55:35 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		3:01:19 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:00am Scraps: h’lo hey hm
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Scraaaaaaaaps! Hello.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am listener james from westwood: Mornin', Jeff, Scraps, all!
	9:04am Scraps: Jeffffffff! h’lo
	♥ 9:05am Jeff Golick: Gooooood morning, @listener james!
	9:05am Scraps: h’lo l.james f.westwood!
	9:08am Uncle Michael: good morning Jeff, and listeners.
	♥ 9:12am Jeff Golick: Early good morning to you, @Uncle Michael!
	♥ 9:14am Stanley: Parp!
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: @Stanley! Parp walk better'n a perp walk.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am Andrew Waterloo: this week the swag pile arrived! God save the swag pile.,
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Andrew Waterloo! Happy swag day to you!
	🦀 ♥ 9:26am Uncle Michael: Music to bake pie by. Mammy's little baby love's Shorter, Shorter...
	♥ 9:27am Jeff Golick: Ha. I love pie. What kind of pie you got going, @UM?
	🦀 ♥ 9:29am Uncle Michael: Ginger peach.
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Mmmm.
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: Andrew Cyrille played on my show back in (gulp) ‘93. At one point I asked him off-mic what the correct pronunciation of “Grachan” was. He told me, but the. I ended of forgetting what he said. Good morning!
	9:45am Doug Schulkind: the. = then
	9:46am JtotheK: Ahoy Jeff! Aloha, everyone!!!
	♥ 9:48am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug. Hello, @Doug! Ahoy hoy, @JtotheK!
	🦀 ♥ 9:49am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, & hello, the OUT Crowd, jazzophiles, razzle dazzle jazzophiles, the genetically predisposed to jazz, those few who know how to pronounce "Grachan", and all
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: @Sem! Welcome.
	♥ 9:50am Jeff Golick: Here's the Ethan Iverson piece on Wayne that prompted this set: www.newyorker.com...
	9:52am Doug Schulkind: I once heard a DJ on WKCR pronounce it “gracken.” Poor soul must’ve been flayed alive by Phil Schapp.
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: Well, he wanted to release the gracken.
	🦀 ♥ 9:54am Sem: :-)
	♥ 9:55am Jeff Golick: There's a wonderful interview with Wayne in Amiri Baraka's book, Black Music. Both men came up in Newark, NJ.
	9:59am Dean: Fortunately, WS's name is much easier: WINE-uh shohr-TAY
	9:59am Doug Schulkind: Gotta go stack the Triscuits, but I’ll be longing for Shorter.
	♥ 10:01am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Dean. Thanks for that. @Doug! See ya! Thanks for stopping by. Wish you could stay longer for Shorter.
	10:07am Dean: Mysterious Traveler is the Weather Report point of entry.
	♥ 10:14am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Dean!
	10:15am Dean: IMHO, it should go without saying.
	🦀 ♥ 10:17am doctorjazz: Hi all...late arrival, missed the Shorter set (looks great, will have to catch it in the archives....glad to be catching this set).
	♥ 10:18am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @doctorjazz!
	♥ 10:18am Jeff Golick: (@Dean: what should go w/o saying...? The Weather Report album?)
	10:20am Dean: That it's only my humble opinion. Yeah, I guess I heaped ambiguity upon ambiguity there.
	♥ 10:22am Jeff Golick: Oh, I get it now. Yes. (I had the accent on the wrong phrase.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:28am doctorjazz: Liked the New Yorker article. Iverson's musician analysis of Shorter's 3 1964 albums, which are his favorites (love them as well but didn't catch the musical influences he brought to each one) Saw the most recent band at NJ PAC, quite abstract, sort of stretched the Miles band of the late 60's concept to the limit without breaking it Made the mistake of bringing my wife... It was too "out" for her. She read a book the whole show (at least she came prepared...)
	♥ 10:32am Jeff Golick: Ha. Well. Yeah, Wayne showing no signs of mellowing.
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: This little ditty would've fit in well with Mayuko's exploration of Orientalism a few weeks back.
	10:36am Dean: My street had a block party yesterday. Perfect weather. A neighbor is a professional musician/engineer, who pulled together a quartet to serenade us with standards. He's a remarkable bass player. I mentioned to him d: O's ongoing tributes to living giants, such as Shorter, Sanders. This met with approval.
	♥ 10:38am Jeff Golick: Sweet, @Dean. I'm all ears, btw, about who else to feature, if you have suggestions.
	🦀 ♥ 10:39am doctorjazz: Would have liked to get to the Charlie Parker fest today, but my daughter heads back to college today, have to help her get into her share house .Oh well ..
	10:41am Scraps: I would nominate Carla Bley, Jeff.
	10:41am Scraps: (Who I would name as the best living jazz composer....)
	♥ 10:42am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Scraps. Good one. Re Sharrock, via wiki: "He wanted to play tenor saxophone from his youth after hearing John Coltrane on Davis's Kind of Blue on the radio at age 19, but his asthma prevented this. Sharrock said repeatedly, however, that he still considered himself 'a horn player with a really fucked up axe.'"
	10:42am Dean: Bley is a great suggestion. Pat Martino? He's not up there with Coltrane, Shorter, or Sanders, but Houston Person?
	♥ 10:44am Jeff Golick: Houston Person would require some serious work on my part, @Dean. Wow.
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: I've been thinking about Wadada Leo Smith.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am doctorjazz: Great suggestions... How about my man, Abdullah Ibrahim?
	10:46am glenn: fwiw, paul haines, who collaborated with carla bley on escalator over the hill, is the father of emily haines from metric. in case you didn't know, which you probably did, you clever little fuckers.
	10:47am Scraps: I didn’t know!
	10:47am Dean: Well, of course, Smith. I'm familiar with a tiny fraction of Person's catalog, but I bet you could do worse than start with his stuff with Charles Earland.
	♥ 10:47am Jeff Golick: @glenn! I did not know that.
	10:47am rw: Good morning!
	🦀 ♥ 10:48am doctorjazz: Henry Threadgill and David Murray aren't as old as Shorter, but they're in Senior Citizen territory...
	♥ 10:49am Jeff Golick: Hello and welcome, @rw!
	10:49am Scraps: (And, of course, you know that I can’t have a discussion of living jazz composers go by without mentioning Threadgill....)
	10:49am Scraps: Ha, doctorjazz!
	10:50am Dean: I remember reading the review of Escalator Over the Hill in the Rolling Stone comp from 1974. (My copy is a brittle yellow.) Robert "Bob" Palmer wrote the review. What struck me at the time, since I had no idea who Carla Bley was, was the appearance of Ronstadt. What strikes me now is that the record was then available new for $12.
	10:51am Scraps: Threadgill is 74. He’s getting up there.
	♥ 10:52am Jeff Golick: Ibrahim, Threadgill, Murray...that's a real murderer's row. @Dean: I got that same RS Yellow guide. (Also Blue and Red, too.)
	10:52am Dean: Not jazz, but Big Jay McNeely.
	10:53am Dean: Mine's blue to purple, no red. It's volume II. Never got my hands on v.I.
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am doctorjazz: Ask the Ages... One of my favorite albums!
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: One of my favorite (and at the time, reassuring) things about the Blue RS guide was how much it didn't care for The Doors. (Don't @ me.)
	10:59am Scraps: Joe McPhee, almost 80
	♥ 11:00am Jeff Golick: Ooooh yeah, McPhee, yes yes. (Going to his home town tomorrow!)
	11:00am Dean: McNeely is 91! Well, Richard Meltzer wrote the review of L.A. Woman. He was (perhaps still is) a huge Doors fan, and he loved the album. Ben Gerson reviewed Other Voices a bit more equivocally. I hung out with Meltzer a bit in the '90s, and I confess I never quite got his admiration for The Doors. But he was exactly right in his veneration of The Germs.
	11:01am Dean: McPhee, for sure.
	11:02am glenn: listen, if x liked the doors enough to have ray manzarek produce their first two records, who am i to quibble?
	11:03am Scraps: I could like the Doors if they were an instrumental band.
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: What a lovely "Going Home"...
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am doctorjazz: Man.....
	11:14am melinda: Hi all
	11:16am rw: I'm far from being an authority but when I hear the words jazz and composer together I think of Anthony Braxton.
	♥ 11:16am Jeff Golick: Great to see you, @melinda!
	♥ 11:17am Jeff Golick: @rw: He's up there, for sure.
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am doctorjazz: Like "Regret", have to look for it..
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am doctorjazz: And this Costa too,starting to add up...
	♥ 11:21am Jeff Golick: tomabbs.bandcamp.com...
	11:21am Dean: Mark Whitecage is worth some quality time and attention. Joseph Scianni. Thinking of CIMP-based folks...
	11:22am Dean: Gianluigi Trovesi
	♥ 11:22am Jeff Golick: Whitecage, yeah. Dennis Gonzalez is another one.
	11:23am Dean: Yes. Bobby Bradford.
	11:23am Dean: These guys aren't that old, but they're not getting any younger.
	11:24am rw: And Wadada Leo Smith... I went to see him at the Jazz Bakery in the '90s based solely on the description in the flyer. We got lost on the way and almost gave up. He had several players on him with varied instrumentation (I think someone was playing a sitar). It was great of course. After the show I said to my friend, "It's a good thing we decided not to bail or there would have been more people on stage than in the audience." He said, "Yeah I was thinking the same thing!"
	♥ 11:24am Jeff Golick: Oooh, yeah.
	11:25am Scraps: Han Bennink
	11:26am Dean: @rw: The old Jazz Bakery at the Helms building, yes? That was a fun venue. Heard Steve Lacy there, Max Roach, Alan Broadbent with Mark Murphy. Haven't made it to the new site.
	♥ 11:27am Jeff Golick: Ooof, Bennink opens a door to Europeans we haven't even touched yet.
	11:29am Scraps: Yep! I figured Bennink is European #1. ;-)
	♥ 11:29am Jeff Golick: @rw: did I forget to greet you? If so: greetings!
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am doctorjazz: Trovesi would be great... Bennink leads to Breuker, who is no longer with us but has great recordings .
	11:29am rw: Dean, yes. We saw WLS in a more theater like room at the Helms building. I think it was new at the time. Before it had been in a photography studio in the Helms bldg. Is there a newer site since then?
	11:30am rw: JG. Yes. Twice now. Thanks!
	11:30am Scraps: Yeah. Mengelberg died last year, too
	11:30am Dean: Yep, it's now on Hollywood Blvd. I think they won a grant of some sort a few years ago, so they moved to new, plush digs.
	11:32am Dean: Bennink plays in a group on Driff Records with Jorrit Dijkstra and Pandelils Karayorgis. They cover Lacy tunes. They're a hoot. I recently pinged Karayorgis and bought the entire Driff catalog at a discount.
	11:32am rw: Dean, I guess I should look them up. I'm trying to get out to more shows. Jazz Bakery got a little too jazz for my taste for a while there.
	11:34am Scraps: Oh, jeez: Dave Holland
	11:34am Dean: In LA I liked Jazz Bakery, the old Catalina Bar & Grill, and a weird space in a shopping mall in Pasadena where a community theater group would stage Shakespeare, but from time to time locals (the Clines, Vinny Golia, etc.) would play.
	11:38am Dean: Speaking of the Clines, look who played Jazz Bakery in January: https://jazzbakery.org/events/twins-alex-nels-cline-50-years-making-music-together The roster these days otherwise looks way more mainstream than it used to be.
	11:38am rw: Speaking of shows and jazz, there's a question I've been wanting to ask here. I went with a buddy to see P. Brotzmann and K. Heino a few weeks back. Afterward I made a reference to it being jazz and my friend got confused because he didn't think of it as jazz at all. What do you guys think? Jazz, right?
	🦀 ♥ 11:38am Uncle Michael: You're nailin' it today, Jeff.
	11:40am Dean: Hmmm, not exactly at the Jazz Bakery, I guess. A different venue. Re: Brotzmann & Heino, I suppose in a Venn diagram kinda way there's an area of jazz to which you could refer.
	11:41am Scraps: rw: jazz, yes. Jazz is a big tent. Lots of people shake their heads about free jazz being jazz. But it’s jazz players who play it....
	♥ 11:43am Jeff Golick: Oh thanks, @UM!
	♥ 11:45am Jeff Golick: Jazz shmazz. Genre's a sucker's game.
	11:47am Scraps: All jazz, rock, hiphop, and classical have been getting bigger and wider, until people say they are going to pop, or have popped long ago
	♥ 11:48am Jeff Golick: I enjoyed this Darryl Pinckney piece on Aretha at the NYRB: www.nybooks.com...
	11:48am rw: Aretha! Never too much. And Jeff, that's probably the best answer. We ran into a few people the following week who had been to the show and their answers seemed to depend on whether they had gone to see Brotzmann with Haino or Haino with Brotzmann.
	11:49am Dean: Brinsley Schwarz did "Niki Hoekey," albeit with less, uh, soul than Aretha.
	11:50am rw: Bnd wait... Jeff, weren't you just asking about the greatest living jazz composer??
	♥ 11:50am Jeff Golick: Northern Soul, let's say.
	♥ 11:51am Jeff Golick: @rw: Sorta. That was the headline of this NYer piece on Wayne Shorter: www.newyorker.com...
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am doctorjazz: At first I thought I had enough Aretha, hearing her on NPR and such. But as the FMU tributes continued, I realized , No Such Thing as too much...
	11:53am rw: Ah! JG, I had missed that. You're clear.
	♥ 11:53am Jeff Golick: One thing I've realized is that when I sing ("sing") along with Aretha, what I'm really doing is singing along with the backup singers. That's all I can really bring myself to do. And it's more than enough.
	11:54am Doug Schulkind: Bring it home, Jeff G!!
	11:55am rw: Also, sorry, I'm still waking up but Jeff, did you say you had a son or daughter entering college this week? That's very exciting. It's going to be a great experience for everyone.
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am doctorjazz: Yup, that's Ethan Iverson's thesis, and he basically says if Shorter had just done the 3 1964 albums, that would already cement his place as greatest living composer. Cool article.
	♥ 11:56am Jeff Golick: @rw: It's true. Driving kid to college first thing tomorrow morning!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am doctorjazz: (nice, not much heard Aretha...)
	♥ 11:56am Jeff Golick: I wonder how an artist would feel on hearing the words, "Aretha is doing your song."
	11:57am Dean: Nice way to wrap up this morning's program.
	♥ 11:57am Stanley: This Aretha Franklin tribute set is as good, or better, than others on FMU, so far. Anyone know whether the biopic that was made is finally getting a release?
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am doctorjazz: Could be intimidating I'd think
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: Way to show up, @Stanley. Holy cow.
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am doctorjazz: Thanks, Jeff, good week all! (see if I can get myself out to bike Watchung now...). Been fun!
	♥ 11:59am Jeff Golick: Still waiting for the Amazing Grace movie...
	12:00pm rw: Thanks Jeff! Have a good drive tomorrow! Been nice hanging out and listening to music this morning. Have a great Sunday everyone!
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, and take care, @doc and @rw!
	♥ 12:00pm Stanley: Been here for the duration, Jeff. Thanks, again for a most enjoyable show (Amazing Grace - that's the one
	12:01pm Doug Schulkind: I’m driving kid to college on Tuesday. Apparently it’s contagious.
	12:01pm rw: d.jazz, I'm headed out for my bike ride too! Want to race?
	12:02pm rw: I mean race to see who can get the bike out first. Not actually race bikes. That would be crazy.
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: Helmets, please, everyone.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm doctorjazz: Doing the drive this afternoon .. TCNJ here we come (made it to 3rd year)!
	♥ 12:03pm Jeff Golick: @Doug: that was the consensus at Ikea yesterday. Oy.
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm doctorjazz: Rw, you're on!
	5:15pm Listener Gregory: Very nice show, Jeff. For what it's worth, your Aretha Franklin tribute didn't overlap with any of the others I've heard and was very welcome.

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