WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from April 29, 2019

Listener comments!
	8:59pm chresti: I don't think I've been to that May co
	9:02pm TDK60: Okay, I won't touch that dial...
	9:02pm chresti: the parking lot has fish skeletons
	9:03pm Sam Segal: Haha @Chresti, I was wondering whether this photo would land with the Los Angeles listeners.
	9:04pm Sam Segal: Don't you dare, @TDK!
	9:14pm chresti: I heard herpes too
	9:14pm TDK60: ..don't know that Undercover Rollings album.
	9:16pm chresti: I don't either, TDK60.
	9:18pm Sam Segal: It's pretty hit or miss all in all, but there are some great tunes.
	9:18pm Chris Farrell: Really liked the opener. Settled in for another round.
	9:19pm Sam Segal: Thanks for coming back for more, Chris!
	9:20pm still b/p: Saw horses gamboling -- I say gamBOLing -- this morning. Lost only in the joy of spring.
	9:23pm Sam Segal: @SBP, I say this totally genuinely: "Gamboling" is one of my very favorite words in the English language.
	9:23pm TDK60: ..almost bought an LP version of "Rollings Stones Now" at WFMU rekkid faire, but said next time; have it on cassette anyway but LPs, you know..
	9:27pm Sam Segal: Any eureka finds at the record fair this year, TDK?
	9:32pm fleep: Greetings, Sam. That May Co. turned in to Macy's with a mall and skating rink around it. All gone now. The plan is for a mixed used project called NoHoWest.
	9:33pm Sam Segal: NoHoWest...sounds insidious. Hello, fleep!
	9:34pm northguineahills: Well, I never finished making my sweet/potato, bok choi, chili, carrot, miso, & tofu soup (only prepped yesterday), so it's on the burner while listening to this burner.
	9:35pm Sam Segal: Also, this is from an Ed Ruscha series called "Thirtyfour Parking Lots in Los Angeles"
	9:36pm Dean: I haven't been to that May Co., but I frequented the one in eastern LA County in Whittier. It went down after the '87 'quake. I have a soft spot for suburban shopping malls. Strip away the racism and the capitalism and you'll find marvelous structures. As Ruscha well knew.
	9:36pm TDK60: Sam, don't know if "eureka!" -got 4 items, listened to parts of- the Chills- Something Beautiful / PJ Harvey- Uh Huh Her / Robert Rich- A Troubled Resting Place / G. Lewis & B.C. Gilbert- 3R4 (of Wire, reissue of 1980 noise ambient thing); all on a low budget.
	9:38pm Sam Segal: @NGH: Sounds delicious. Don't burn your mouth!
	9:38pm Sam Segal: Well put, @Dean.
	9:38pm Sam Segal: Sounds like a great haul, TDK. Love that Chills record.
	9:42pm fleep: The giant flat parking lots are disappearing, it's a good thing Ruscha documented them.. Filling in is the new sprawl. And "NoHo" is an attempt to make North Hollywood sound chic. It's not.
	9:44pm Chris Farrell: They are building an apartment complex in the parking lot of the mall by my house. I think possibly senior living but not sure.
	9:48pm still b/p: Big empty lots look pretty cool when you're flying in for a landing at night and see the grid of light pools. If there's a little fog on the ground, even better. Otherwise, the starkness and associations when viewed normally at ground level are...not favorable.
	9:49pm TDK60: I've found myself in parking a lot.
	9:50pm Dean: Agreed, fleep, and the same goes for NYC's Soho and SF's Soma, etc. I live near a street named Gilman. Two or three years ago somebody paints a huge sign on the side of a wall in my neighborhood that reads, "Gilman District," is if it were historic or some traditional moniker for the subdivision. But it isn't. It's a crass attempt to cool-ify an area of town in which a couple breweries, some precious coffee shops, etc., have moved.
	9:51pm TDK60: Dean, is that where the Gilman St. punk venue is/was?
	9:52pm still b/p: Love for somebody to open a joint called "Precious Coffee Shop." Or maybe, "Precious Coffee Shop, Right?"
	9:52pm Dean: Yep.
	9:52pm chresti: I like cement parking lots, better than asphalt blacktops. There are many parking lots in LA
	9:54pm TDK60: lotsa parking.. hee
	9:57pm northguineahills: You should follow Women up by Men (not to be confused w/ The Men), the lesbian/trans band led by JD from Le Tigre.
	9:57pm chresti: Don't it always seem to go...
	9:58pm Dean: I'm thinking "Self-Important Coffee Purveyors" would do.
	9:58pm TDK60: ..when you said "noddy" I thought ya meant nodding off sleepy style but no, you meant nod your head to the math rock as ya can't find the 1 to dance.
	10:00pm Sam Segal: @NGH: I have heard of "The Men" but never "Men." Will have to check them out!
	10:02pm TDK60: who let this hippy outta his art studio?
	10:05pm northguineahills: @Sam: I saw them twice at a lbgqt spot a twice in Bushwick. I somehow can get to said event w/ my leasbian friends, and end up being the only straight male there, as, I'm just there for the music! (well, and maybe a few drinks).
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, @TDK, I meant "knotty"!
	10:06pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and hoarse people
	10:07pm TDK60: things do get knotty....
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Nice to see you, @Coel!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: so, did he use a saw horse to build the horse? is it a saw horse he built? did he use a horse in the building of the saw horse?
	10:10pm northguineahills: now, I can use a naughty, knotty, hot toddy, served by a toddy...
	10:10pm Dean: Caught Shalabi Effect at Victo many years ago. Quite a spectacle.
	10:11pm Sam Segal: @Coel, if I knew how he made, I'd make one myself and I'd be able to stop looking for mine!
	10:12pm Franco Twinkie: Is it to late for me to add my two cents about the May Co?
	10:12pm chresti: Put up a sign with a catchy name to raise real estate value, Frogtown, Virgil Village...
	10:13pm Sam Segal: Not even close, Franco. The deadline for May Co comments is 12 am ET.
	10:13pm northguineahills: Damn, this Peter Evans! Seen him play a few times, yes, he's that good!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Still need to check out one of his gigs. One of the few trumpet players who can interest me for an extended period of time on solo trumpet.
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: maybe my friend Victor knows. he does that kind of work. he doesn't use any saw horses. his method involves robbing graves and a lot of stitching and mega-electricity.
	10:15pm TDK60: ..it doesn't feel as if this has all been for naught.
	10:16pm Dean: Wish I could say I've heard Evans, but no.
	10:16pm coelacanth∅: never heard of may co. more cents please.
	10:23pm TDK60: coel: I found a Wikip. page on May Co. but am waiting for Franco or other south Californians to get their 2 cents in...
	10:24pm Dean: May Co. was a national(?) or regional(?) chain of department stores, akin to Macy's. In my town it sat next to a local department store, Hinshaw's, and to this day I can't remember where I first gazed at Dylan's Self-Portrait. Was it the record division at Hinshaw's (yes, I think so) or at May Co.?
	10:24pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Sam. With your blessing I will do my best. The May Co. my family shopped at was in The Eastland Esplanade, A glorious suburban fantasia that was built in West Covina in I believe 1958. It had out door breeze ways, planters with exotic plants, and multi-colored triangles of glass in a geodistic frame work over the sidewalks. But best of all there was a Wallachs Music City across the parking lot.
	10:26pm Dean: Was the Tower Records in Covina or West Covina, Franco? I picked up some amazing LP clearances there when they sold Riverside jazz for pennies on the dollar. A Monk box set, an Evans box set, a bunch of single LPs...
	10:27pm northguineahills: Good to hear Sote, he was on my late friend's Isolate Recs label.
	10:31pm Franco Twinkie: Yes Dean, the record department at May Co. was great. I had my young retinas seared with album covers that one day I would own. It was in the parking lot of May Co. on a afternoon in November of 1967 I first heard Alone Again or by Love on KFWB
	10:32pm Chris Farrell: Shalabi Effect song was my favorite during that set.
	10:33pm doctorjazz: Hi equestrians.
	10:35pm Franco Twinkie: Tower was in West Covina. It occupied the building that was formally Desmonds, a fussy menswear store that had an electric shoe polisher that I was obsessed with as a child.
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: glad i waited. Thanks youz for explanations. wikipedia eat yer heart out.
	10:38pm coelacanth∅: ...did y'all have 2 Guys (from Harris) stores out that way?
	10:39pm Sam Segal: @DrJazz, right on time, yet again!
	10:39pm coelacanth∅: (oh i guess it was harrison, not harris)
	10:40pm doctorjazz: Just horse sense, I guess...
	10:41pm Dean: Desmonds was in Whittier, too. Same shoe polisher. This explains why I adore suburban shopping malls. When I ventured into foreign territory, to Victoriaville in Quebec, I could spend my mornings having coffee at the local mall. It was all perfectly familiar, despite the signage being in French. Otherwise, the layout, vibe, and offerings were identical.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: when i was little and started asking for records for xmas the 2 guys store was where my mother usually took us to pick them out ourselves. there was a dedicated record store a town down rt.22 from 2 guys (in springfield,nj?) that my father would go to. Dazzling.
	10:44pm doctorjazz: Cool track!
	10:46pm doctorjazz: Harold Vick on sax.
	10:51pm Dean: Man, I remember picking up this McBee record a long time ago.
	10:51pm Sam Segal: I bought most of my formative first albums at Best Buy. Now, they don't even sell CDs there anymore.
	10:55pm Chris Farrell: Any of you folks ever rock out on a studebaker? I had a remake one that I use to listen to the animal house soundtrack on.
	10:59pm northguineahills: Food coma approaching....
	11:00pm northguineahills: @Sam: one Xmas, while buying gifts for my family, Best Buy had a sale of all CDs and records 50%-80% off. I spent more on myself that day then my family....
	11:06pm Franco Twinkie: Drat! I wish I could spent more time on the topic of shopping centers, but I'm going to the desert early in the morning and nothing is packed.
	11:08pm coelacanth∅: i almost bought a studebaker once. late 50s studebaker hawk. had i bought that car, by now it no longer would be the stupidest thing i've ever done.
	11:12pm Chris Farrell: I didn’t mean to throw off any conversation about shopping centers. That is my bad. Gotta work on timing not my thing.
	11:12pm northguineahills: @coel: So, you ended up buying a boat?
	11:13pm Franco Twinkie: When I was a kid the man across the street had a Studebaker Hawk. One day he painted the car in the driveway,and while the paint was still wet, my sister and her friend stuck a bunch of cotton balls to it.
	11:13pm northguineahills: Now I want to hear an amyl house remix of the Animal House sndtrk.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: ngh, c'mon it was a small boat... Franco, did he like it?
	11:16pm northguineahills: Ornette!
	11:17pm Chris Farrell: My brother ended up taking the studebaker to Lawrence Kansas along with the records. A bob dylan blood on the tracks album went with them. Got it directly from my cleaning lady who cleaned his house. I recently received an antique typewriter from him so overall it was fair.
	11:18pm Franco Twinkie: Er, no.
	11:19pm chresti: Thanks Sam, gotta turn in. Goodnight everyone!
	11:20pm Sam Segal: Thanks for hanging out, as always, @Chresti!
	11:23pm Franco Twinkie: Back to department stores for a minute. My aunt worked at The Bullocks Wishire at the same time Ornette Coleman was an elevator operator there. When my sister found out she used to interrogate her at the dinner table trying to jog her memory, but she was already loosing her marbles by then, so nothing came of it.
	11:25pm fleep: Bullocks is another long gone upscale department store chain here, which also got turned into Macy's. There was also Buffums, some of which became Bloomingdales.
	11:27pm northguineahills: Never mind the Sandra Bullocks.... ok, brain fading, thanks, Sam and friends....
	11:27pm Franco Twinkie: Yes, Buffums. The one in Arcadia had a guy playing a Steinway for your shopping pleasure.
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: you know what they say, "bullocks to macy's, buffums to bloomingdales".
	11:30pm coelacanth∅: i just saw that Franco -so, he didn't want a custom-made cotton ball art car?
	11:31pm Dean: Magnin (I and J), Orbach's... I believe we've discussed these sites here in the past. Not long ago the architecture school library where I work in their free book offering had a study of shopping malls. Needless to say, I grabbed it. It was published, I'll guess, in the '60s, perhaps the golden era...
	11:32pm Franco Twinkie: We thought it looked real sharp. But then it wasn't our car.
	11:32pm still b/p: Hard to avoid the cologne-and-perfume-for-sale STAANK in the big non-discount department stores. I want out shortly after I get in.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: shit, still b/p those monsters with their stink spray! that's assault! so glad i never experience that anymore.
	11:36pm Franco Twinkie: The I Magnin in Pasadena was next door to Bullocks. There was a real nice rock wall with tall banana trees in passage way.
	11:37pm coelacanth∅: so Chris Farrell what model studebaker did your brother have? (i thought you were just bullshitting before but now i'm curious)
	11:37pm fleep: We reached peak mall in the 90s and now we are faced with ghost malls, which have their own appeal if you are into decay sephlawless.com...
	11:37pm still b/p: Should be confined to one closed room in the store. And everybody who buys the scents and wears them out in public should have their daily ration cut by at least 75%.
	11:39pm coelacanth∅: seriously. neurotoxins.
	11:40pm Dean: But Orbach's delivered a waft of popcorn, too. And the delicate bell that indicated...what?...I'm not sure...the front door? Akin, I imagine, to the elevator bell Nanci Griffith so cleverly incorporates into her song about Woolworth's.
	11:41pm Dean: Not that bells have smells.
	11:41pm coelacanth∅: fleep that's awesome...and, i AM into decay! ...but at the same time am constantly outraged by the human's stupidity; the use of all those resources for something so relatively short-lived.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: those bells were in code (obviously) and from pretty young i figured they must be a security code. like a sequence of 4-3-5 meant possible thief in aisle 244.
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: (well, i guess if they had 244 aisles they'd be longer codes than that...)
	11:47pm Chris Farrell: It was a remake studebaker (the record player not car). It was plastic and black and white. Kind of a cool thing for a kid to have. The ones on the internet appear to be wooden. This was definitely a plastic updated remake version.
	11:47pm Dean: I've spent quality time over the years observing their decay, the day by day decline of business and shops and the concomitant arrival of generic stores. It's marvelous. These processes are my proxy for nature, I suppose. I really don't like nature much. Who cares about a bunch of stupid trees or some so-called grand canyon? "Spill on aisle 12^18 log 4!"
	11:54pm Franco Twinkie: There was this discount store in West Covina called Scoa that had a donut pavilion in the middle of the store. The whole place smelled like rancid grease.
	11:55pm Dean: Rancid Grease. The name of my first band in high school.
	11:56pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, that's great!
	11:57pm coelacanth∅: so it's one of those that has a turntable, radio, cassette or cd player or both...looks like it's a big fancy console but it's miniature. i wanted one when i was little.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: haha hey isn't that Doug's department?!
	11:58pm Dean: (It's the topos frequented by Doug Schulkind, the "first band in high school" being some lilting phrase offered up on these here comment boards. It's never in fact anybody's first band in high school.)
	11:58pm Franco Twinkie: Next week: Zody's, White Front and Unimart. Goodnight everybody.
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: (i think he's had several dozen bands in high school)
	11:59pm fleep: Sam, in addition to excellent music, your photo choice inspired 3 hours of retail chat, extra points for that. Thanks!
	11:59pm Dean: Zody's! Totally forgot them. And Big A. Really! There was a Big A!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: oh is that what started this?
	12:00am Sam Segal: Hahahaha, I have enjoyed the chat board immensely tonight, folks. Well done.
	12:00am coelacanth∅: (just kidding)
	12:00am Chris Farrell: This one just has the record player.
	12:00am Franco Twinkie: Thriftymart!
	12:01am coelacanth∅: i think eventually we have to give some time to channel home centers and rickle. ...and the pep boys while we're at it.
	12:02am Dean: K Mart, far more ubiquitous. But it's where I have distinct memories of seeing Paul McCartney's first solo LP, ZZ Top's Tres Hombres, Jethro Tull's Living in the Past, etc.
	12:02am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! jolly good show take care y'all.
	12:02am Dean: I have a Pep Boys story. Next time, perhaps.
	12:17am Chris Farrell: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00065X33K/

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April 29, 2019: What a Beautiful Horse He Built You

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
The Rolling Stones	Too Much Blood (Alternate Take)	Undercover - The Real Alternate Album	Red Tongue

Daniele Patucchi	Sacrifice "Sacrifice" by "Daniele Patucchi"	The Real Sound of Mark Grusane	BBE	0:17:32 (Pop-up)
Dennis Bovell	Bettah "Bettah" by "Dennis Bovell"	Brain Damage	Fontana	0:22:10 (Pop-up)
New World Music	Across the Water (Edit)	Intellectual Thinking	From the Stacks	0:25:22 (Pop-up)
DJ Nate	Just Be Truu "Just Be Truu" by "DJ Nate"	Take Off Mode	Planet Mu	0:29:59 (Pop-up)
DJ Pirna	Damnhomie (Instrumental)	Track Runners Vol. 5	Philthtrax	0:31:47 (Pop-up)
Sam Gendel And Sam Wilkes	THEEM AND VARIATIONS	Music For Saxofone & Bass Guitar	Leaving	0:36:02 (Pop-up)
Group Gentra Madya	Sambal Lada (Hot Chilli)	Malam Minggu: Saturday Night in Sunda	Akuphone	0:39:47 (Pop-up)
Pepsi-Orlando & His Young Star Band	I Love You So	Money No Be Sand: 1960s Afro-Lypso, Pidgin Highlife, Afro-Soul, Afro-Rock	Original	0:42:50 (Pop-up)

Women	Shaking Hand "Shaking Hand" by "Women"	Women	Jagjaguwar	0:52:24 (Pop-up)
Gay Cum Daddies	Spite for Apples "Spite for Apples" by "Gay Cum Daddies"	Metal Beach	Decoherence	0:57:04 (Pop-up)
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band	Ashtray Heart	Doc at the Radar Station	Virgin	0:59:33 (Pop-up)
The Sediment Club	My Dungeon Shook	Stucco Thieves	Wharf Cat	1:02:49 (Pop-up)
Shalabi Effect	Born Again Lesbians	Feign to Delight Gaiety of Gods	Annihaya	1:05:11 (Pop-up)
Peter Evans	Mirrors of Infinity "Mirrors of Infinity" by "Peter Evans"	Lifeblood	More is More	1:09:54 (Pop-up)
Sote	Trans Force "Trans Force" by "Sote"	Parallel Persia	Diagonal	1:13:36 (Pop-up)
Glen Velez	Murcof "Murcof" by "Glen Velez"	External Combustion	Schematic	1:18:28 (Pop-up)
Katsunori Sawa	Strange Hell "Strange Hell" by "Katsunori Sawa"	An Enlightenment Manual, Your Consciousness Of Truth	Opal	1:24:24 (Pop-up)

Joe Chambers	Catta "Catta" by "Joe Chambers"	The Almoravid	Muse	1:38:12 (Pop-up)
Pete La Roca	Candu "Candu" by "Pete La Roca"	Basra	Blue Note	1:48:10 (Pop-up)
Cecil McBee	Come Sunrise "Come Sunrise" by "Cecil McBee"	Alternate Spaces	Indian Navigation	1:48:45 (Pop-up)
"Blue" Gene Tyranny	Without Warning	Trust in Rock	Unseen Worlds	1:55:26 (Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman	Zig Zag "Zig Zag" by "Ornette Coleman"	The Empty Foxhole	Blue Note	2:15:56 (Pop-up)
Lee Konitz & Karl Berger	Seasons Change	Seasons Change	Circle	2:21:33 (Pop-up)

Slauson Malone	11/28/55, Trabul (ft. Medhane)	A Quiet Farwell, 2016–2018	Self-Released	2:32:39 (Pop-up)
Rip Hayman	Part Two "Part Two" by "Rip Hayman"	Dreams of India & China	Recital	2:34:36 (Pop-up)
Youmna Saba	Nafas "Nafas" by "Youmna Saba"	Anthology of Electroacoustic Lebanese Music	Unexplained Sounds Group	2:54:32 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:59pm chresti: I don't think I've been to that May co
	9:02pm TDK60: Okay, I won't touch that dial...
	9:02pm chresti: the parking lot has fish skeletons
	9:03pm Sam Segal: Haha @Chresti, I was wondering whether this photo would land with the Los Angeles listeners.
	9:04pm Sam Segal: Don't you dare, @TDK!
	9:14pm chresti: I heard herpes too
	9:14pm TDK60: ..don't know that Undercover Rollings album.
	9:16pm chresti: I don't either, TDK60.
	9:18pm Sam Segal: It's pretty hit or miss all in all, but there are some great tunes.
	9:18pm Chris Farrell: Really liked the opener. Settled in for another round.
	9:19pm Sam Segal: Thanks for coming back for more, Chris!
	9:20pm still b/p: Saw horses gamboling -- I say gamBOLing -- this morning. Lost only in the joy of spring.
	9:23pm Sam Segal: @SBP, I say this totally genuinely: "Gamboling" is one of my very favorite words in the English language.
	9:23pm TDK60: ..almost bought an LP version of "Rollings Stones Now" at WFMU rekkid faire, but said next time; have it on cassette anyway but LPs, you know..
	9:27pm Sam Segal: Any eureka finds at the record fair this year, TDK?
	9:32pm fleep: Greetings, Sam. That May Co. turned in to Macy's with a mall and skating rink around it. All gone now. The plan is for a mixed used project called NoHoWest.
	9:33pm Sam Segal: NoHoWest...sounds insidious. Hello, fleep!
	9:34pm northguineahills: Well, I never finished making my sweet/potato, bok choi, chili, carrot, miso, & tofu soup (only prepped yesterday), so it's on the burner while listening to this burner.
	9:35pm Sam Segal: Also, this is from an Ed Ruscha series called "Thirtyfour Parking Lots in Los Angeles"
	9:36pm Dean: I haven't been to that May Co., but I frequented the one in eastern LA County in Whittier. It went down after the '87 'quake. I have a soft spot for suburban shopping malls. Strip away the racism and the capitalism and you'll find marvelous structures. As Ruscha well knew.
	9:36pm TDK60: Sam, don't know if "eureka!" -got 4 items, listened to parts of- the Chills- Something Beautiful / PJ Harvey- Uh Huh Her / Robert Rich- A Troubled Resting Place / G. Lewis & B.C. Gilbert- 3R4 (of Wire, reissue of 1980 noise ambient thing); all on a low budget.
	9:38pm Sam Segal: @NGH: Sounds delicious. Don't burn your mouth!
	9:38pm Sam Segal: Well put, @Dean.
	9:38pm Sam Segal: Sounds like a great haul, TDK. Love that Chills record.
	9:42pm fleep: The giant flat parking lots are disappearing, it's a good thing Ruscha documented them.. Filling in is the new sprawl. And "NoHo" is an attempt to make North Hollywood sound chic. It's not.
	9:44pm Chris Farrell: They are building an apartment complex in the parking lot of the mall by my house. I think possibly senior living but not sure.
	9:48pm still b/p: Big empty lots look pretty cool when you're flying in for a landing at night and see the grid of light pools. If there's a little fog on the ground, even better. Otherwise, the starkness and associations when viewed normally at ground level are...not favorable.
	9:49pm TDK60: I've found myself in parking a lot.
	9:50pm Dean: Agreed, fleep, and the same goes for NYC's Soho and SF's Soma, etc. I live near a street named Gilman. Two or three years ago somebody paints a huge sign on the side of a wall in my neighborhood that reads, "Gilman District," is if it were historic or some traditional moniker for the subdivision. But it isn't. It's a crass attempt to cool-ify an area of town in which a couple breweries, some precious coffee shops, etc., have moved.
	9:51pm TDK60: Dean, is that where the Gilman St. punk venue is/was?
	9:52pm still b/p: Love for somebody to open a joint called "Precious Coffee Shop." Or maybe, "Precious Coffee Shop, Right?"
	9:52pm Dean: Yep.
	9:52pm chresti: I like cement parking lots, better than asphalt blacktops. There are many parking lots in LA
	9:54pm TDK60: lotsa parking.. hee
	9:57pm northguineahills: You should follow Women up by Men (not to be confused w/ The Men), the lesbian/trans band led by JD from Le Tigre.
	9:57pm chresti: Don't it always seem to go...
	9:58pm Dean: I'm thinking "Self-Important Coffee Purveyors" would do.
	9:58pm TDK60: ..when you said "noddy" I thought ya meant nodding off sleepy style but no, you meant nod your head to the math rock as ya can't find the 1 to dance.
	10:00pm Sam Segal: @NGH: I have heard of "The Men" but never "Men." Will have to check them out!
	10:02pm TDK60: who let this hippy outta his art studio?
	10:05pm northguineahills: @Sam: I saw them twice at a lbgqt spot a twice in Bushwick. I somehow can get to said event w/ my leasbian friends, and end up being the only straight male there, as, I'm just there for the music! (well, and maybe a few drinks).
	10:06pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, @TDK, I meant "knotty"!
	10:06pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and hoarse people
	10:07pm TDK60: things do get knotty....
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Nice to see you, @Coel!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: so, did he use a saw horse to build the horse? is it a saw horse he built? did he use a horse in the building of the saw horse?
	10:10pm northguineahills: now, I can use a naughty, knotty, hot toddy, served by a toddy...
	10:10pm Dean: Caught Shalabi Effect at Victo many years ago. Quite a spectacle.
	10:11pm Sam Segal: @Coel, if I knew how he made, I'd make one myself and I'd be able to stop looking for mine!
	10:12pm Franco Twinkie: Is it to late for me to add my two cents about the May Co?
	10:12pm chresti: Put up a sign with a catchy name to raise real estate value, Frogtown, Virgil Village...
	10:13pm Sam Segal: Not even close, Franco. The deadline for May Co comments is 12 am ET.
	10:13pm northguineahills: Damn, this Peter Evans! Seen him play a few times, yes, he's that good!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Still need to check out one of his gigs. One of the few trumpet players who can interest me for an extended period of time on solo trumpet.
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: maybe my friend Victor knows. he does that kind of work. he doesn't use any saw horses. his method involves robbing graves and a lot of stitching and mega-electricity.
	10:15pm TDK60: ..it doesn't feel as if this has all been for naught.
	10:16pm Dean: Wish I could say I've heard Evans, but no.
	10:16pm coelacanth∅: never heard of may co. more cents please.
	10:23pm TDK60: coel: I found a Wikip. page on May Co. but am waiting for Franco or other south Californians to get their 2 cents in...
	10:24pm Dean: May Co. was a national(?) or regional(?) chain of department stores, akin to Macy's. In my town it sat next to a local department store, Hinshaw's, and to this day I can't remember where I first gazed at Dylan's Self-Portrait. Was it the record division at Hinshaw's (yes, I think so) or at May Co.?
	10:24pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Sam. With your blessing I will do my best. The May Co. my family shopped at was in The Eastland Esplanade, A glorious suburban fantasia that was built in West Covina in I believe 1958. It had out door breeze ways, planters with exotic plants, and multi-colored triangles of glass in a geodistic frame work over the sidewalks. But best of all there was a Wallachs Music City across the parking lot.
	10:26pm Dean: Was the Tower Records in Covina or West Covina, Franco? I picked up some amazing LP clearances there when they sold Riverside jazz for pennies on the dollar. A Monk box set, an Evans box set, a bunch of single LPs...
	10:27pm northguineahills: Good to hear Sote, he was on my late friend's Isolate Recs label.
	10:31pm Franco Twinkie: Yes Dean, the record department at May Co. was great. I had my young retinas seared with album covers that one day I would own. It was in the parking lot of May Co. on a afternoon in November of 1967 I first heard Alone Again or by Love on KFWB
	10:32pm Chris Farrell: Shalabi Effect song was my favorite during that set.
	10:33pm doctorjazz: Hi equestrians.
	10:35pm Franco Twinkie: Tower was in West Covina. It occupied the building that was formally Desmonds, a fussy menswear store that had an electric shoe polisher that I was obsessed with as a child.
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: glad i waited. Thanks youz for explanations. wikipedia eat yer heart out.
	10:38pm coelacanth∅: ...did y'all have 2 Guys (from Harris) stores out that way?
	10:39pm Sam Segal: @DrJazz, right on time, yet again!
	10:39pm coelacanth∅: (oh i guess it was harrison, not harris)
	10:40pm doctorjazz: Just horse sense, I guess...
	10:41pm Dean: Desmonds was in Whittier, too. Same shoe polisher. This explains why I adore suburban shopping malls. When I ventured into foreign territory, to Victoriaville in Quebec, I could spend my mornings having coffee at the local mall. It was all perfectly familiar, despite the signage being in French. Otherwise, the layout, vibe, and offerings were identical.
	10:44pm coelacanth∅: when i was little and started asking for records for xmas the 2 guys store was where my mother usually took us to pick them out ourselves. there was a dedicated record store a town down rt.22 from 2 guys (in springfield,nj?) that my father would go to. Dazzling.
	10:44pm doctorjazz: Cool track!
	10:46pm doctorjazz: Harold Vick on sax.
	10:51pm Dean: Man, I remember picking up this McBee record a long time ago.
	10:51pm Sam Segal: I bought most of my formative first albums at Best Buy. Now, they don't even sell CDs there anymore.
	10:55pm Chris Farrell: Any of you folks ever rock out on a studebaker? I had a remake one that I use to listen to the animal house soundtrack on.
	10:59pm northguineahills: Food coma approaching....
	11:00pm northguineahills: @Sam: one Xmas, while buying gifts for my family, Best Buy had a sale of all CDs and records 50%-80% off. I spent more on myself that day then my family....
	11:06pm Franco Twinkie: Drat! I wish I could spent more time on the topic of shopping centers, but I'm going to the desert early in the morning and nothing is packed.
	11:08pm coelacanth∅: i almost bought a studebaker once. late 50s studebaker hawk. had i bought that car, by now it no longer would be the stupidest thing i've ever done.
	11:12pm Chris Farrell: I didn’t mean to throw off any conversation about shopping centers. That is my bad. Gotta work on timing not my thing.
	11:12pm northguineahills: @coel: So, you ended up buying a boat?
	11:13pm Franco Twinkie: When I was a kid the man across the street had a Studebaker Hawk. One day he painted the car in the driveway,and while the paint was still wet, my sister and her friend stuck a bunch of cotton balls to it.
	11:13pm northguineahills: Now I want to hear an amyl house remix of the Animal House sndtrk.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: ngh, c'mon it was a small boat... Franco, did he like it?
	11:16pm northguineahills: Ornette!
	11:17pm Chris Farrell: My brother ended up taking the studebaker to Lawrence Kansas along with the records. A bob dylan blood on the tracks album went with them. Got it directly from my cleaning lady who cleaned his house. I recently received an antique typewriter from him so overall it was fair.
	11:18pm Franco Twinkie: Er, no.
	11:19pm chresti: Thanks Sam, gotta turn in. Goodnight everyone!
	11:20pm Sam Segal: Thanks for hanging out, as always, @Chresti!
	11:23pm Franco Twinkie: Back to department stores for a minute. My aunt worked at The Bullocks Wishire at the same time Ornette Coleman was an elevator operator there. When my sister found out she used to interrogate her at the dinner table trying to jog her memory, but she was already loosing her marbles by then, so nothing came of it.
	11:25pm fleep: Bullocks is another long gone upscale department store chain here, which also got turned into Macy's. There was also Buffums, some of which became Bloomingdales.
	11:27pm northguineahills: Never mind the Sandra Bullocks.... ok, brain fading, thanks, Sam and friends....
	11:27pm Franco Twinkie: Yes, Buffums. The one in Arcadia had a guy playing a Steinway for your shopping pleasure.
	11:29pm coelacanth∅: you know what they say, "bullocks to macy's, buffums to bloomingdales".
	11:30pm coelacanth∅: i just saw that Franco -so, he didn't want a custom-made cotton ball art car?
	11:31pm Dean: Magnin (I and J), Orbach's... I believe we've discussed these sites here in the past. Not long ago the architecture school library where I work in their free book offering had a study of shopping malls. Needless to say, I grabbed it. It was published, I'll guess, in the '60s, perhaps the golden era...
	11:32pm Franco Twinkie: We thought it looked real sharp. But then it wasn't our car.
	11:32pm still b/p: Hard to avoid the cologne-and-perfume-for-sale STAANK in the big non-discount department stores. I want out shortly after I get in.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: shit, still b/p those monsters with their stink spray! that's assault! so glad i never experience that anymore.
	11:36pm Franco Twinkie: The I Magnin in Pasadena was next door to Bullocks. There was a real nice rock wall with tall banana trees in passage way.
	11:37pm coelacanth∅: so Chris Farrell what model studebaker did your brother have? (i thought you were just bullshitting before but now i'm curious)
	11:37pm fleep: We reached peak mall in the 90s and now we are faced with ghost malls, which have their own appeal if you are into decay sephlawless.com...
	11:37pm still b/p: Should be confined to one closed room in the store. And everybody who buys the scents and wears them out in public should have their daily ration cut by at least 75%.
	11:39pm coelacanth∅: seriously. neurotoxins.
	11:40pm Dean: But Orbach's delivered a waft of popcorn, too. And the delicate bell that indicated...what?...I'm not sure...the front door? Akin, I imagine, to the elevator bell Nanci Griffith so cleverly incorporates into her song about Woolworth's.
	11:41pm Dean: Not that bells have smells.
	11:41pm coelacanth∅: fleep that's awesome...and, i AM into decay! ...but at the same time am constantly outraged by the human's stupidity; the use of all those resources for something so relatively short-lived.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: those bells were in code (obviously) and from pretty young i figured they must be a security code. like a sequence of 4-3-5 meant possible thief in aisle 244.
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: (well, i guess if they had 244 aisles they'd be longer codes than that...)
	11:47pm Chris Farrell: It was a remake studebaker (the record player not car). It was plastic and black and white. Kind of a cool thing for a kid to have. The ones on the internet appear to be wooden. This was definitely a plastic updated remake version.
	11:47pm Dean: I've spent quality time over the years observing their decay, the day by day decline of business and shops and the concomitant arrival of generic stores. It's marvelous. These processes are my proxy for nature, I suppose. I really don't like nature much. Who cares about a bunch of stupid trees or some so-called grand canyon? "Spill on aisle 12^18 log 4!"
	11:54pm Franco Twinkie: There was this discount store in West Covina called Scoa that had a donut pavilion in the middle of the store. The whole place smelled like rancid grease.
	11:55pm Dean: Rancid Grease. The name of my first band in high school.
	11:56pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, that's great!
	11:57pm coelacanth∅: so it's one of those that has a turntable, radio, cassette or cd player or both...looks like it's a big fancy console but it's miniature. i wanted one when i was little.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: haha hey isn't that Doug's department?!
	11:58pm Dean: (It's the topos frequented by Doug Schulkind, the "first band in high school" being some lilting phrase offered up on these here comment boards. It's never in fact anybody's first band in high school.)
	11:58pm Franco Twinkie: Next week: Zody's, White Front and Unimart. Goodnight everybody.
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: (i think he's had several dozen bands in high school)
	11:59pm fleep: Sam, in addition to excellent music, your photo choice inspired 3 hours of retail chat, extra points for that. Thanks!
	11:59pm Dean: Zody's! Totally forgot them. And Big A. Really! There was a Big A!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: oh is that what started this?
	12:00am Sam Segal: Hahahaha, I have enjoyed the chat board immensely tonight, folks. Well done.
	12:00am coelacanth∅: (just kidding)
	12:00am Chris Farrell: This one just has the record player.
	12:00am Franco Twinkie: Thriftymart!
	12:01am coelacanth∅: i think eventually we have to give some time to channel home centers and rickle. ...and the pep boys while we're at it.
	12:02am Dean: K Mart, far more ubiquitous. But it's where I have distinct memories of seeing Paul McCartney's first solo LP, ZZ Top's Tres Hombres, Jethro Tull's Living in the Past, etc.
	12:02am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! jolly good show take care y'all.
	12:02am Dean: I have a Pep Boys story. Next time, perhaps.
	12:17am Chris Farrell: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00065X33K/

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from April 29, 2019

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